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The Guyanese people must demand President Jagdeo’s resignation now!

September 4, 2011 | By KNews | Filed Under Features / Columnists, Freddie Kissoon

I begin this column with two observations. First, the Police Commissioner in Guyana’s social structure is among the first top four most powerful persons in the country. So powerful is the Police Commissioner that his authority goes way beyond any Cabinet Minister except the President. Secondly, the US Embassy in Guyana is the conduit for the American Government.

Guyana has a close working relation with the US Government, both directly and indirectly. The indirect connection is important because the US can stop every cent the IDB and World Bank facilitate Guyana with due to its voting influence in those institutions. It would be utterly stupid for the leaders of a poor country like Guyana (Guyana that the Jamaican PM says goes begging all the time) that depends for aid from the US to be unnecessarily contemptuous of America.

Before I discuss the devastating criticism the most strategically placed personnel in the US Embassy made against President Jagdeo, Commissioner Greene and others in the WikiLeaks releases, a caveat is in order. The named persons in those cables will deny what they said to the US Embassy officials. It has already begun with Gail Teixeira. She has denied what she is reported to have said. It is the same story since the crime wave began. No matter how powerful the evidence, they will deny their involvement.

The case of Leslie Ramsammy tells it all. Witness after witness described Ramsammy’s relationship with Roger Khan. Purchase of a laptop with a letter purportedly signed by Ramsammy came to light, but Ramsammy said he was not involved. The letter was not his.

We come to the WikiLeaks cables. Remember they will deny it but here we go anyway. The US Embassy and the British and Canadian High Commissions made it incandescently clear to Mr. Jagdeo that, according to their findings, Greene was involved with narco-traffickers.

All three missions advised Mr. Jagdeo not to appoint him as Commissioner. All three missions insisted that Guyana would lose security aid if he, President Jagdeo did so. But Jagdeo went ahead. The cables said as a consequence, US withheld vital security aid including technology to track the movement of illegal arms. Mr. Jagdeo’s own Home Affairs Minister told the US Embassy she did not support Greene’s elevation. As you read on, the Embassy staff made the most unflattering comments about Mr. Jagdeo on his “Greene inflexibility”.

The Embassy even concluded that Jagdeo was playing with them because at one time he said that if Greene’s visa was revoked, then it would provide an opportunity to deny the promotion. The visa revocation proceeded, but Greene was still confirmed as Police Commissioner. The cables were pellucid that Mr. Jagdeo wanted Greene. The question to be asked and must be asked is why. Any sane mind reading the Embassy’s frustration with Mr. Jagdeo will ponder on why Greene was so important to Jagdeo and the curiosity will be aroused as to if Greene has some influence on Jagdeo.

At this stage, readers need to know two important contents of the cables. One is that Teixeira suggested in her conversations with the Embassy that there may be a Jagdeo- Roger Khan link. Secondly, Greene conveyed his anger and frustration to the Embassy on the visa revocation telling them that he thought it was for “troubling the girls” and not narco-involvement. The Government must investigate what is meant by “troubling the girls.” Now surely that cannot mean just “constantly making a pass at them.”

This writer has continuously classified the Government as an elected dictatorship. The US Embassy cables refer to Guyana as “democratically-sponsored autocracy.” Any school boy who has read a book on politics would tell you that autocracy means dictatorship. The cables also contain some opinions from Embassy seniors on Mr. Jagdeo. We are told that he has no regard for public and opposition opinion. Now brace yourself for this one – that Mr. Jagdeo thinks he alone has the answers for everything about Guyana.

Guyana was bound to end up as a disaster under Mr. Jagdeo. Now if Mr. Jagdeo feels this way about himself, and he has the intellectual capacity to think and innovate then nothing is wrong about his glowing feelings about himself. But intellectually, Mr. Jagdeo is very poor, and in my opinion is devoid of leadership qualities. He is perhaps the least learned leader the British West Indies gave us. Lacking transformational qualities and intellectual depth, and thinking that he has these qualities, disaster was bound to happen. Look at GPL and GuySuCo and you see that surely, Mr. Jagdeo has been a total failure.

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This is what I don't understand with Guyana's politicians. They seem to always blow in a different direction, almost like being different for the sake of being different, while the nation pays the price. It started in the 50's and continues to this day. Guyana and all it's people pay the price, and will continue. Guyana needs a revolution of leadership (i don't mean violence) where the leaders pragmatically place the interest of the nation first before their own bloated egos and geo-political dreams. Guys, your dreams have become the people's worse nightmares, for almost 60 years. Forget the Jagans' revenge and move on. Leave the trials of the West for the West to deal with and you deal with the trials of Guyana.
FM
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Mr. Jagdeo has been a total failure.

This is an extreme misrepresentation of reality. Under President Jagdeo's rule, the economy improved by 5.9 per cent during the first half of this year. Under his rule, the economy has registered positive growth throughout the last decade, except in 2006. And that one negative GDP number occurred mainly because of the big flood of 2005.
To assert that "Mr. Jagdeo has been a total failure" is to express a value judgement that does not square up with the facts.
B
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Originally posted by Bookman:
quote:
Mr. Jagdeo has been a total failure.

This is an extreme misrepresentation of reality. Under President Jagdeo's rule, the economy improved by 5.9 per cent during the first half of this year. Under his rule, the economy has registered positive growth throughout the last decade, except in 2006. And that one negative GDP number occurred mainly because of the big flood of 2005.
To assert that "Mr. Jagdeo has been a total failure" is to express a value judgement that does not square up with the facts.


5.9 is propaganda. Where are the jobs to substantiate this number? How has the quality of life improved?
Mitwah
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Originally posted by Mitwah:
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Originally posted by Bookman:
quote:
Mr. Jagdeo has been a total failure.

This is an extreme misrepresentation of reality. Under President Jagdeo's rule, the economy improved by 5.9 per cent during the first half of this year. Under his rule, the economy has registered positive growth throughout the last decade, except in 2006. And that one negative GDP number occurred mainly because of the big flood of 2005.
To assert that "Mr. Jagdeo has been a total failure" is to express a value judgement that does not square up with the facts.


5.9 is propaganda. Where are the jobs to substantiate this number? How has the quality of life improved?

It's a jobless growth.
FM
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Originally posted by BGurd_See:
Freddie always shouting fire. Jagdeo on his last lap and Freddie still shouting for his resignation. Soon he will move on to Ramoutar and spew the same vile. hahahahhaha

These Wikileaks are a good indication of why Western Govts are cold on Guyana.
FM
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Originally posted by BGurd_See:
Freddie always shouting fire. Jagdeo on his last lap and Freddie still shouting for his resignation. Soon he will move on to Ramoutar and spew the same vile. hahahahhaha


Greene conveyed his anger and frustration to the Embassy on the visa revocation telling them that he thought it was for “troubling the girls” and not narco-involvement. The Government must investigate what is meant by “troubling the girls.” Now surely that cannot mean just “constantly making a pass at them.”

Are you related to Green?
Mitwah
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Originally posted by baseman:
These Wikileaks are a good indication of why Western Govts are cold on Guyana.


The US is not at war with Guyana. So if the UK and EU knew enough to join with the US ambassador to discourage Jagdeo from appointing Green commissioner, why isn't Jagdeo privy to that information. Or is the UK and EU just taking the ambassador's word for it?
FM
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Originally posted by ksazma:
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Originally posted by baseman:
These Wikileaks are a good indication of why Western Govts are cold on Guyana.


The US is not at war with Guyana. So if the UK and EU knew enough to join with the US ambassador to discourage Jagdeo from appointing Green commissioner, why isn't Jagdeo privy to that information. Or is the UK and EU just taking the ambassador's word for it?

Notwithstanding the field day critics of the Guyana government are having, President Jagdeo says he is happy that the Wikileaks files on Guyana are being released.
On the other hand, the US Administration has tried its darnedest to suppress the publication of Wikileaks files on the USA. Top American administration officials have even pressured other governments to go after Wikileaks founder Julian Assange. There is much hypocrisy and double standard on the part of the USA and Britain particularly.
B
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Originally posted by ksazma:
quote:
Originally posted by baseman:
These Wikileaks are a good indication of why Western Govts are cold on Guyana.


The US is not at war with Guyana. So if the UK and EU knew enough to join with the US ambassador to discourage Jagdeo from appointing Green commissioner, why isn't Jagdeo privy to that information. Or is the UK and EU just taking the ambassador's word for it?


It was being spoken openly in the public about Green "troubling the girls". How could Jagdeo not know?
Mitwah
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Originally posted by Mitwah:
It was being spoken openly in the public about Green "troubling the girls". How could Jagdeo not know?


Unless Jagdeo sees no problem with a grown man troubling girls becoming Police Chief, maybe he did not see any validity to the story. And here is where the need is greater for Guyana to have a more balanced government where there would be enough governmental pressure to overide any rubber stamp actions of the chief executive.
FM
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Originally posted by ksazma:
quote:
Originally posted by Mitwah:
It was being spoken openly in the public about Green "troubling the girls". How could Jagdeo not know?


Unless Jagdeo sees no problem with a grown man troubling girls becoming Police Chief, maybe he did not see any validity to the story. And here is where the need is greater for Guyana to have a more balanced government where there would be enough governmental pressure to overide any rubber stamp actions of the chief executive.

It comes back to good governance vs crony politics.
FM
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Originally posted by ksazma:
quote:
Originally posted by Mitwah:
It was being spoken openly in the public about Green "troubling the girls". How could Jagdeo not know?


Unless Jagdeo sees no problem with a grown man troubling girls becoming Police Chief, maybe he did not see any validity to the story. And here is where the need is greater for Guyana to have a more balanced government where there would be enough governmental pressure to overide any rubber stamp actions of the chief executive.


Stories of suicides and victims granted landed immigrant visas based on similiar allegations of high ranking officials... Green was not named in the articles which were posted here.
Mitwah
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Originally posted by baseman:
quote:
Originally posted by Mitwah:
quote:
Originally posted by Bookman:
quote:
Mr. Jagdeo has been a total failure.

This is an extreme misrepresentation of reality. Under President Jagdeo's rule, the economy improved by 5.9 per cent during the first half of this year. Under his rule, the economy has registered positive growth throughout the last decade, except in 2006. And that one negative GDP number occurred mainly because of the big flood of 2005.
To assert that "Mr. Jagdeo has been a total failure" is to express a value judgement that does not square up with the facts.


5.9 is propaganda. Where are the jobs to substantiate this number? How has the quality of life improved?

It's a jobless growth.


One of the factors most western countries tie their growth towards is employment/unemployment rates.

What are those of Guyana ?
Tola
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Originally posted by baseman:
quote:
Originally posted by ksazma:
quote:
Originally posted by Mitwah:
It was being spoken openly in the public about Green "troubling the girls". How could Jagdeo not know?


Unless Jagdeo sees no problem with a grown man troubling girls becoming Police Chief, maybe he did not see any validity to the story. And here is where the need is greater for Guyana to have a more balanced government where there would be enough governmental pressure to overide any rubber stamp actions of the chief executive.

It comes back to good governance vs crony politics.


And an imigration consultant who represented one of the victims was jailed in Guyana in the process.
Mitwah
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Originally posted by Tola:
quote:
Originally posted by baseman:
quote:
Originally posted by Mitwah:
quote:
Originally posted by Bookman:
quote:
Mr. Jagdeo has been a total failure.

This is an extreme misrepresentation of reality. Under President Jagdeo's rule, the economy improved by 5.9 per cent during the first half of this year. Under his rule, the economy has registered positive growth throughout the last decade, except in 2006. And that one negative GDP number occurred mainly because of the big flood of 2005.
To assert that "Mr. Jagdeo has been a total failure" is to express a value judgement that does not square up with the facts.


5.9 is propaganda. Where are the jobs to substantiate this number? How has the quality of life improved?

It's a jobless growth.


One of the factors most western countries tie their growth towards is employment/unemployment rates.

What are those of Guyana ?

Tongue and cheek. However, growth driven by commodity prices is jobless. Furthermore, a switch to more mechanization in commercial agro will result in jobless growth. This is why Guyana needs an educated workforce and Govt policy to stimulate commerce and creation of higher-skilled jobs. Downstreaming, as highlighted in the AFC action plan, is one answer to creating high-value jobs and high productivity in the base.
FM
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Originally posted by baseman:
It comes back to good governance vs crony politics.


In the area of the perceived government rape of the treasury. Sure. I doubt Jagdeo would deliberately piss off the US. He likes America too much. He must given that he spends more time in New York than he does in Guyana. Smile

But maybe he needed more information before he was willing to throw Greene under the bus. But the possibility also exist that he needed Greene for cover. I just think that if the UK and EU can get the information, then Jagdeo should have been privy to it also. Unless we are at war with Guyana and Guyana don't know it.
FM
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The Embassy even concluded that Jagdeo was playing with them because at one time he said that if Greene’s visa was revoked, then it would provide an opportunity to deny the promotion. The visa revocation proceeded, but Greene was still confirmed as Police Commissioner.


dunno
Mitwah
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Originally posted by ksazma:
quote:
Originally posted by baseman:
It comes back to good governance vs crony politics.


In the area of the perceived government rape of the treasury. Sure. I doubt Jagdeo would deliberately piss off the US. He likes America too much. He must given that he spends more time in New York than he does in Guyana. Smile

But maybe he needed more information before he was willing to throw Greene under the bus. But the possibility also exist that he needed Greene for cover. I just think that if the UK and EU can get the information, then Jagdeo should have been privy to it also. Unless we are at war with Guyana and Guyana don't know it.

A close acquaintence of BJ recently told us he is very negative on the US. He view the US as the source of much of Guyana's and the world political problems. He don't waste any opportunity to redicule the US. He comes here cuz it's a good source of funds given the diaspora.
FM
Technological advancements coupled with a growing world population will only add to the joblessness situation everywhere. However, overall wealth does not suffer from either of these components. What you do have is a contracted distribution of wealth which can be seen even in Guyana where the country can take care of itself much more now than it was able to under the PNC but that wealth is still only in a few hands while the majority continue to suffer. I know people who owns houses near me bigger than mine that are unoccupied and locked up while they live in Guyana in houses even bigger than the ones they have locked up over here. And they usually buy their houses and household things along with their cars with cold hard cash.
FM
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Originally posted by baseman:
A close acquaintence of BJ recently told us he is very negative on the US. He view the US as the source of much of Guyana's and the world political problems. He don't waste any opportunity to redicule the US. He comes here cuz it's a good source of funds given the diaspora.


Then he is wutliss. I don't have a problem with people not liking us but to not like us and still stretch out your hand is downright wrong.
FM
Now, getting back to the crux of the matter:
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The cables also contain some opinions from Embassy seniors on Mr. Jagdeo. We are told that he has no regard for public and opposition opinion. Now brace yourself for this one – that Mr. Jagdeo thinks he alone has the answers for everything about Guyana.


Which prompts this question: Is there any chance that Jagdeo himself writes on this forum?

Hahahaha!
FM
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Originally posted by ksazma:
quote:
Originally posted by baseman:
A close acquaintence of BJ recently told us he is very negative on the US. He view the US as the source of much of Guyana's and the world political problems. He don't waste any opportunity to redicule the US. He comes here cuz it's a good source of funds given the diaspora.


Then he is wutliss. I don't have a problem with people not liking us but to not like us and still stretch out your hand is downright wrong.


Quote: Guyana has a close working relation with the US Government, both directly and indirectly. The indirect connection is important because the US can stop every cent the IDB and World Bank facilitate Guyana with due to its voting influence in those institutions.
Mitwah
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Originally posted by squingy:
Now, getting back to the crux of the matter:
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The cables also contain some opinions from Embassy seniors on Mr. Jagdeo. We are told that he has no regard for public and opposition opinion. Now brace yourself for this one – that Mr. Jagdeo thinks he alone has the answers for everything about Guyana.


Which prompts this question: Is there any chance that Jagdeo himself writes on this forum?

Hahahaha!


lol clever
Mitwah
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Originally posted by baseman:
quote:
Originally posted by Tola:
quote:
Originally posted by baseman:
quote:
Originally posted by Mitwah:
quote:
Originally posted by Bookman:
quote:
Mr. Jagdeo has been a total failure.


This is an extreme misrepresentation of reality. Under President Jagdeo's rule, the economy improved by 5.9 per cent during the first half of this year. Under his rule, the economy has registered positive growth throughout the last decade, except in 2006. And that one negative GDP number occurred mainly because of the big flood of 2005.
To assert that "Mr. Jagdeo has been a total failure" is to express a value judgement that does not square up with the facts.


5.9 is propaganda. Where are the jobs to substantiate this number? How has the quality of life improved?

It's a jobless growth.


One of the factors most western countries tie their growth towards is employment/unemployment rates.
What are those of Guyana ?


Tongue and cheek. However, growth driven by commodity prices is jobless. Furthermore, a switch to more mechanization in commercial agro will result in jobless growth. This is why Guyana needs an educated workforce and Govt policy to stimulate commerce and creation of higher-skilled jobs. Downstreaming, as highlighted in the AFC action plan, is one answer to creating high-value jobs and high productivity in the base.



If the proper foundation is not laid the pupils will sooner or later come ‘crashing down’
September 3, 2011 | By KNews | Filed Under Letters

Dear Editor,

The world’s greatest manual, the Holy Bible unequivocally states that we are to study to show ourselves approved. The Almighty God does not in any way imply that humans are to sit back and have things given to them on a platter; for “in the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread” (Genesis 3:19).

Why then are contrary practices to the above being allowed in the Guyana education system. Why are pupils who have not obtained the requisite marks or percentages in academic subjects being promoted to the higher levels; in particular at the Primary level which provides basic education?

If the proper foundation is not laid the pupils will sooner or later come ‘crashing down’. Let’s parallel what is happening in the education system to that of erecting a building on a sub-standard foundation. What happens next? You have guessed correctly. There is going to be a calamity. Yes, chaos in the society.
What happens when the wider society is infiltrated with illiterate persons? It is so difficult to reason with such persons. They often seem to lack patience or understanding. They lash out at you for no reason. They think with their fists or their mouth rather than their brain, hence, there is increased quarreling, fighting and yes, bloodshed.

The situation is further compounded when they have to do a job. They know not how to read, be it a book or the newspaper, sign their name or even read the cheque they worked for. Can they positively impact on the next generation? I do not think so. The persons in question may be able to cope with the manual tasks: but what happens when reading or comprehension are involved?

I therefore urge those in the decision making forums of the Guyana education system, to consider the decision to have ‘No Child left Behind’ at the Basic or Primary level repealed.
At least allow those pupils of Grade One who have not performed adequately in Literacy and Numeracy to repeat the programme.
Most often, pupils who repeat here never have a reason to repeat again. I am living proof of that fact and after being in the education system for thirty-four odd years I write from the vantage point of experience.

In so doing, Guyana is ensured of producing pupils who do not have to join the alarming statistics of those who eventually “drop out of school” because they were unable to cope in the school system. Please seriously consider the views expressed above before it is too late.

Geneva A. Thomas
Retired HM
Tola
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Originally posted by ksazma:
Technological advancements coupled with a growing world population will only add to the joblessness situation everywhere. However, overall wealth does not suffer from either of these components. What you do have is a contracted distribution of wealth which can be seen even in Guyana where the country can take care of itself much more now than it was able to under the PNC but that wealth is still only in a few hands while the majority continue to suffer. I know people who owns houses near me bigger than mine that are unoccupied and locked up while they live in Guyana in houses even bigger than the ones they have locked up over here. And they usually buy their houses and household things along with their cars with cold hard cash.

Correct Kaz, but population growth is not a factor in Guyana. On the other point, Guyana with a per capita GDP of $1,500, the second lowest in the hemisphere, means there is alot of room for growth before it reaches a point where technology and productivity becomes a limiting factor. If this is the case, as it seems to be, then economic depth and breadth are not being added. For this reason 90% of the skilled labour seek their fortunes outside.

I don't want to get into too much details however, Guyana's external poitical stance, it's coruption and other internal politics have stunted the nation and prevent it breaking out of the rot.

You point on the Guyana homes of the diaspora is a good example of the falacy of progress. Many people have made second homes there and visit as they wish. This hardly result in any benefits to the locals.
FM
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The visa revocation proceeded, but Greene was still confirmed as Police Commissioner. The cables were pellucid that Mr. Jagdeo wanted Greene. The question to be asked and must be asked is why. Any sane mind reading the Embassy’s frustration with Mr. Jagdeo will ponder on why Greene was so important to Jagdeo and the curiosity will be aroused as to if Greene has some influence on Jagdeo.

At this stage, readers need to know two important contents of the cables. One is that Teixeira suggested in her conversations with the Embassy that there may be a Jagdeo- Roger Khan link.


Short man must have ordered Jagdeo to hire Green. Why was Green so important to Jagdeo?
Mitwah
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Originally posted by Mitwah:
quote:
The visa revocation proceeded, but Greene was still confirmed as Police Commissioner. The cables were pellucid that Mr. Jagdeo wanted Greene. The question to be asked and must be asked is why. Any sane mind reading the Embassy’s frustration with Mr. Jagdeo will ponder on why Greene was so important to Jagdeo and the curiosity will be aroused as to if Greene has some influence on Jagdeo.

At this stage, readers need to know two important contents of the cables. One is that Teixeira suggested in her conversations with the Embassy that there may be a Jagdeo- Roger Khan link.


Short man must have ordered Jagdeo to hire Green. Why was Green so important to Jagdeo?


Not likely, given the chronology of events. "Shortman" was facing the music and probably singing soprano at the time of Greene's ascension.
FM
quote:
Originally posted by baseman:
Correct Kaz, but population growth is not a factor in Guyana. On the other point, Guyana with a per capita GDP of $1,500, the second lowest in the hemisphere, means there is alot of room for growth before it reaches a point where technology and productivity becomes a limiting factor. If this is the case, as it seems to be, then economic depth and breadth are not being added. For this reason 90% of the skilled labour seek their fortunes outside.

I don't want to get into too much details however, Guyana's external poitical stance, it's coruption and other internal politics have stunted the nation and prevent it breaking out of the rot.

You point on the Guyana homes of the diaspora is a good example of the falacy of progress. Many people have made second homes there and visit as they wish. This hardly result in any benefits to the locals.


Indeed. Guyana can learn from Asia where they are finding ways to involve their previously underutilized labor force. They have added some technology but more important, they have managed to attract foreign investors who use their populations for work previously done elsewhere. The shame is that Guyana has a few things more favorably for this kind of industry given their western location and being English speaking. But it was never really attended to. Leaving that aside, Guyana can produce so much of what it buys from overseas if they really want to. Since I was in high school, I wondered why we import canned orange juice when oranges rot in Guyana especially since the canned orange juice tasted like it was rotten anyway. Smile Other areas are clothes, assembling of products for the world market. There was a time when we worry about wealth leaving our shores in the form of money. Today people will happily give up some of the profits on production if they can be the cost of that production.
FM
quote:
Originally posted by ksazma:
quote:
Originally posted by baseman:
Correct Kaz, but population growth is not a factor in Guyana. On the other point, Guyana with a per capita GDP of $1,500, the second lowest in the hemisphere, means there is alot of room for growth before it reaches a point where technology and productivity becomes a limiting factor. If this is the case, as it seems to be, then economic depth and breadth are not being added. For this reason 90% of the skilled labour seek their fortunes outside.

I don't want to get into too much details however, Guyana's external poitical stance, it's coruption and other internal politics have stunted the nation and prevent it breaking out of the rot.

You point on the Guyana homes of the diaspora is a good example of the falacy of progress. Many people have made second homes there and visit as they wish. This hardly result in any benefits to the locals.


Indeed. Guyana can learn from Asia where they are finding ways to involve their previously underutilized labor force. They have added some technology but more important, they have managed to attract foreign investors who use their populations for work previously done elsewhere. The shame is that Guyana has a few things more favorably for this kind of industry given their western location and being English speaking. But it was never really attended to. Leaving that aside, Guyana can produce so much of what it buys from overseas if they really want to. Since I was in high school, I wondered why we import canned orange juice when oranges rot in Guyana especially since the canned orange juice tasted like it was rotten anyway. Smile Other areas are clothes, assembling of products for the world market. There was a time when we worry about wealth leaving our shores in the form of money. Today people will happily give up some of the profits on production if they can be the cost of that production.

Makes me ponder sometimes about the PNC initiatives. Back in the days they created GRECO, then the cotton factory, then the glass factory, then we had GRL, the ham processing factory, etc, etc. Granted, some did not seem like good investments, but they did introduce these technology and manufacturing in Guyana which seemed avant-garde at the time, lot of unique skills were created. Today visit the stores in Guyana, there's hardly anything being produced in Guyana. Almost all clothes are imported. I know some will say, it's the private sector's job but without seeding, incentives and risk sharing, very little would get off the ground.

Back in the 70's the FAO had analysed Guyana's domestic food supply and concluded that some 55% of farm output never made it to the table. Downstreaming of the food industry should have been a major thrust for a agrarian economy. Lot of missed opportunity in Guyana over the past two decades, but it is as it is.
FM
quote:
Originally posted by Bookman:
quote:
Mr. Jagdeo has been a total failure.

This is an extreme misrepresentation of reality. Under President Jagdeo's rule, the economy improved by 5.9 per cent during the first half of this year. Under his rule, the economy has registered positive growth throughout the last decade, except in 2006. And that one negative GDP number occurred mainly because of the big flood of 2005.
To assert that "Mr. Jagdeo has been a total failure" is to express a value judgement that does not square up with the facts.


Bookman,

The average rate of growth during Jagdeo's tenure is about 2% if you include the 5.9% estimate. In the greater context of things this man did tremendous damage to Guyana. the 5.9% is at best a political estimate and is based on the good commodity prices.
T
quote:
Originally posted by baseman:
Makes me ponder sometimes about the PNC initiatives. Back in the days they created GRECO, then the cotton factory, then the glass factory, then we had GRL, the ham processing factory, etc, etc. Granted, some did not seem like good investments, but they did introduce these technology and manufacturing in Guyana which seemed avant-garde at the time, lot of unique skills were created. Today visit the stores in Guyana, there's hardly anything being produced in Guyana. Almost all clothes are imported. I know some will say, it's the private sector's job but without seeding, incentives and risk sharing, very little would get off the ground.

Back in the 70's the FAO had analysed Guyana's domestic food supply and concluded that some 55% of farm output never made it to the table. Downstreaming of the food industry should have been a major thrust for a agrarian economy. Lot of missed opportunity in Guyana over the past two decades, but it is as it is.


Burnham certainly had good ideas but their implementations were compromised. Maybe part of it was that we lacked the requisite patience.
FM
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Originally posted by squingy:
quote:
Originally posted by Mitwah:
quote:
The visa revocation proceeded, but Greene was still confirmed as Police Commissioner. The cables were pellucid that Mr. Jagdeo wanted Greene. The question to be asked and must be asked is why. Any sane mind reading the Embassy’s frustration with Mr. Jagdeo will ponder on why Greene was so important to Jagdeo and the curiosity will be aroused as to if Greene has some influence on Jagdeo.

At this stage, readers need to know two important contents of the cables. One is that Teixeira suggested in her conversations with the Embassy that there may be a Jagdeo- Roger Khan link.


Short man must have ordered Jagdeo to hire Green. Why was Green so important to Jagdeo?


Not likely, given the chronology of events. "Shortman" was facing the music and probably singing soprano at the time of Greene's ascension.


Then there must be something that Green have as a bargaining chip which others could use for their own personal gains.
Mitwah
quote:
Originally posted by Mitwah:
quote:
Originally posted by squingy:
quote:
Originally posted by Mitwah:
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The visa revocation proceeded, but Greene was still confirmed as Police Commissioner. The cables were pellucid that Mr. Jagdeo wanted Greene. The question to be asked and must be asked is why. Any sane mind reading the Embassy’s frustration with Mr. Jagdeo will ponder on why Greene was so important to Jagdeo and the curiosity will be aroused as to if Greene has some influence on Jagdeo.

At this stage, readers need to know two important contents of the cables. One is that Teixeira suggested in her conversations with the Embassy that there may be a Jagdeo- Roger Khan link.


Short man must have ordered Jagdeo to hire Green. Why was Green so important to Jagdeo?


Not likely, given the chronology of events. "Shortman" was facing the music and probably singing soprano at the time of Greene's ascension.


Then there must be something that Green have as a bargaining chip which others could use for their own personal gains.


Mits,
Anything we suggest will not be backed up by evidential fact we can pinpoint, yet in the general consideration of everything circumstancial evidentiary particulars will inform those who take the time to objectively analyse all which unfolded. This is what I believe most intelligence analysts do. I don't believe Commissioner Greene had any strong chips to play in his pursuit of an ambition to be the police chief, which would had trumped anything the president desired in any other person fulfilling that post. Looks like Mr. Greene was the choice for that position, and his own circumstances were engineered by the person with all the power to make him vulnerable and thus ensuring controlability. Remember the general circumstances extant in the underworld arena at the time: revelations about drug linkages; revelation about the linkages of these same drug connections to voilent armed gangs and individuals such as Skinny and Fineman. Even the Rosehall bank robberies prior to the last elections. And look at the spate of encounters with these armed individuals which all resulted in the deaths of said bandits without any one of them ever going to a criminal court trial, where we may have been informed as to their intellectual authors. To my mind, Mr. Greene was the choice because he pliantly fulfilled the wishes of the political directorate even when those wishes may have come up against the authority of the law.
FM
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Originally posted by Bookman:
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Mr. Jagdeo has been a total failure.

This is an extreme misrepresentation of reality. Under President Jagdeo's rule, the economy improved by 5.9 per cent during the first half of this year. Under his rule, the economy has registered positive growth throughout the last decade, except in 2006. And that one negative GDP number occurred mainly because of the big flood of 2005.
To assert that "Mr. Jagdeo has been a total failure" is to express a value judgement that does not square up with the facts.


Sir, U r misinformed.
S
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Originally posted by baseman:
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Originally posted by BGurd_See:
Freddie always shouting fire. Jagdeo on his last lap and Freddie still shouting for his resignation. Soon he will move on to Ramoutar and spew the same vile. hahahahhaha

These Wikileaks are a good indication of why Western Govts are cold on Guyana.


Same shyte happened under Cheddie-no foreign investor would invest in country ran by a leader who makes decision on the whims of his fancy.
S
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Originally posted by ksazma:
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Originally posted by baseman:
These Wikileaks are a good indication of why Western Govts are cold on Guyana.


The US is not at war with Guyana. So if the UK and EU knew enough to join with the US ambassador to discourage Jagdeo from appointing Green commissioner, why isn't Jagdeo privy to that information. Or is the UK and EU just taking the ambassador's word for it?


Don't u get the impression, that those embassies doan trust him. He is erratic.
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Originally posted by seignet:
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Originally posted by baseman:
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Originally posted by BGurd_See:
Freddie always shouting fire. Jagdeo on his last lap and Freddie still shouting for his resignation. Soon he will move on to Ramoutar and spew the same vile. hahahahhaha

These Wikileaks are a good indication of why Western Govts are cold on Guyana.


Same shyte happened under Cheddie-no foreign investor would invest in country ran by a leader who makes decision on the whims of his fancy.

Few yars back a few Indian guys based here was looking into the Cribbean to make some IT investment. Guyana cam up negative on the evaluation due to distrust of the Govt, tax and few other factors. I think (not sure) they went to TT instead.
FM

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