Guyanese are their own worse enemy.  They have an appetite for foreign items and don't support local products. Look how slop can boy was bragging about burger king the other day.  

Drugb posted:

Guyanese are their own worse enemy.  They have an appetite for foreign items and don't support local products. Look how slop can boy was bragging about burger king the other day.  

Wallah,did i brag or post the article ??,you have the tendency to make things up.

Drugb posted:

Guyanese are their own worse enemy.  They have an appetite for foreign items and don't support local products. Look how slop can boy was bragging about burger king the other day.  

Any imported item that can be produced locally at a similar quality or better should be either banned or taxed so heavily that the locals are forced to buy local. Mind you, the same people supporting buy local will at the drop of a hat do a 180 and shout racism and how the government is punishing people if implemented by the current government.

You ned a brain to formulate Policies and to implement them. The PNC proved and are proving that they are not capable, equipped to do so.

I can go on and on like the Energizer Bunny but some of you will still be stuck in FILTH.

The Trains in Guyana, Al00, Dhal, Garlic, Onion, Frying Oil were all prohibited/discarded without  1 (ONE) plan, thought, idea on the replacement. Hence, Guyana was SHIT for 28 years and is currently in SHIT and will be so for another2 1/2 years.

Nehru posted:

You ned a brain to formulate Policies and to implement them. The PNC proved and are proving that they are not capable, equipped to do so.

I can go on and on like the Energizer Bunny but some of you will still be stuck in FILTH.

The Trains in Guyana, Al00, Dhal, Garlic, Onion, Frying Oil were all prohibited/discarded without  1 (ONE) plan, thought, idea on the replacement. Hence, Guyana was SHIT for 28 years and is currently in SHIT and will be so for another2 1/2 years.

I don't think you'll find anyone here who will disagree with you except maybe for the trains. They were getting too expensive to maintain. None of those other items are locally produced. We all agree that those specific items were focused on by the Burnham regime to target one specific group, Indo-Guyanese. Let's focus on now.

Django posted:

Drugb posted:

Guyanese are their own worse enemy.  They have an appetite for foreign items and don't support local products. Look how slop can boy was bragging about burger king the other day.  

Wallah,did i brag or post the article ??,you have the tendency to make things up.

Are you slop can boy? Speak only when you are spoken to. 

GTAngler posted:

Drugb posted:

Guyanese are their own worse enemy.  They have an appetite for foreign items and don't support local products. Look how slop can boy was bragging about burger king the other day.  

Any imported item that can be produced locally at a similar quality or better should be either banned or taxed so heavily that the locals are forced to buy local. Mind you, the same people supporting buy local will at the drop of a hat do a 180 and shout racism and how the government is punishing people if implemented by the current government.

Burnham tried that but it was a failure, people will not respond to a boot on their heads. It has to be awareness for the common good and pride in buying local. Today Guyanese scorn local products. They would rather open a pack of kool aid and mix with water rather than squeeze two orange.  

In the US ever so often we scream the same whenever the economy is in trouble, "buy local". Then when the economy picks up, its back to foreign products. 

Drugb posted:

GTAngler posted:

Drugb posted:

Guyanese are their own worse enemy.  They have an appetite for foreign items and don't support local products. Look how slop can boy was bragging about burger king the other day.  

Any imported item that can be produced locally at a similar quality or better should be either banned or taxed so heavily that the locals are forced to buy local. Mind you, the same people supporting buy local will at the drop of a hat do a 180 and shout racism and how the government is punishing people if implemented by the current government.

Burnham tried that but it was a failure, people will not respond to a boot on their heads. It has to be awareness for the common good and pride in buying local. Today Guyanese scorn local products. They would rather open a pack of kool aid and mix with water rather than squeeze two orange.  

In the US ever so often we scream the same whenever the economy is in trouble, "buy local". Then when the economy picks up, its back to foreign products. 

As usual, you are running around in circles, tripping over your own contradictions.

What's the point?

Homme posted:

As usual, you are running around in circles, tripping over your own contradictions.

What's the point?

I can't help you here, you need a psychiatrist. 

Drugb posted:

Homme posted:

As usual, you are running around in circles, tripping over your own contradictions.

What's the point?

I can't help you here, you need a psychiatrist. 

Uh huh

GTAngler posted:

 

Any imported item that can be produced locally at a similar quality or better should be either banned or taxed so heavily that the locals are forced to buy local. .

We cannot do this as many of the imports come from CARICOM. Barbados, an island with 3 mango trees probably sells mango juice to Guyana.  This from Brazilian concentrates. 

If Guyana is too stupid to perform its role which is to develop a viable agro-industrial sector then that is our fault. Our cost structures are more favorable than those of Barbados.

Whose fault is this? 

A private sector that behaves like market hucksters only wanting to buy cheap and sell high?  And open up fast food restaurants, shopping malls, metroplex cinemas and engage in real estate and other speculation.

A gov't which thinks that everything will be solved when oil flows.  Apparently they haven't they don't see that T&T is two steps away from the IMF, despite having accumulated reserves over the past several decades.

An opposition which is more interested in promoting itself as the "party of straight hair people" so that its oligarch friends have license to steal if they regain office.

I can buy Jamaican fruit juices and canned vegetables sold by Grace Kennedy a company which has/had ambitions to trade on US stock exchanges.

I remember the 70s when we had a viable juice industry and ample local products available.

Drugb posted:

Today Guyanese scorn local products.

We boast of our Banks DIH and blocked a plan by a T&T company to buy it out.  Guyanese aren't as self hating as our oligarchs want to think.

I invite you to describe a product made in Guyana which failed because Guyanese preferred the Bajan product.  T&T, and Jamaican rums don't sell in Guyana. 

The truth is what Kari always used to say. Guyanese oligarchs prefer to use their political power and power to bribe by engaging in what they think are low risk and speculative activities.

There are people all over the Caribbean who want to buy Guyanese products.  This as the tourists complain about the shoddy Chinese made products sold in their tourist oriented stores. So even if Guyanese loathe themselves more than other Caribbean people (who have the same colonial history as we do) these others will buy it.  But it isn't available.

caribny posted:

We boast of our Banks DIH and blocked a plan by a T&T company to buy it out.  Guyanese aren't as self hating as our oligarchs want to think.

I invite you to describe a product made in Guyana which failed because Guyanese preferred the Bajan product.  T&T, and Jamaican rums don't sell in Guyana. 

The truth is what Kari always used to say. Guyanese oligarchs prefer to use their political power and power to bribe by engaging in what they think are low risk and speculative activities.

There are people all over the Caribbean who want to buy Guyanese products.  This as the tourists complain about the shoddy Chinese made products sold in their tourist oriented stores. So even if Guyanese loathe themselves more than other Caribbean people (who have the same colonial history as we do) these others will buy it.  But it isn't available.

This is easy for you to say from your armchair.  Why don't you become an entrepreneur and invest in the industries in Guyana before you pass judgement on the private sector. They are driven by profitability, if these ventures were profitable as you claim there would be a slew of investors all over the world flocking to Guyana to invest. So far we have only seen investors looking to extract natural resource, gold, oil and timber. So shut your trap and take action rather than braying all day and night as you you are no business person. 

Drugb posted:

 

This is easy for you to say from your armchair.  .. 

Aah yes. The benefits of selling Bajan mango juice and coconut water from Antigua when all of these things are right there in Guyana and can not only be produced locally but even exported.

But why do that when buying roti from Jamaica makes more "sense"!

Then you invent the lie that Guyanese hate local products to justify this.

caribny posted:

Drugb posted:

 

This is easy for you to say from your armchair.  .. 

Aah yes. The benefits of selling Bajan mango juice and coconut water from Antigua when all of these things are right there in Guyana and can not only be produced locally but even exported.

But why do that when buying roti from Jamaica makes more "sense"!

Then you invent the lie that Guyanese hate local products to justify this.

 

Again, I have to school you, take action rather than bray like a jackass. Go down to Guyana and develop these industries. Get the Linden, Buxton and Georgetown Blacks to start these ventures. Like you forgot what a wonderful jobs the guyfarms and coops did in PNC version 1 when the kakaba was dictating. 

GTAngler posted:

Drugb posted:

Guyanese are their own worse enemy.  They have an appetite for foreign items and don't support local products. Look how slop can boy was bragging about burger king the other day.  

Any imported item that can be produced locally at a similar quality or better should be either banned or taxed so heavily that the locals are forced to buy local. Mind you, the same people supporting buy local will at the drop of a hat do a 180 and shout racism and how the government is punishing people if implemented by the current government.

1. I thought in a free market place, it was consumer choice and demand that determined what is produced and bought.

2. Also, we are part of a global market where they are certain rules we agree to follow. Failure to follow often results in negative consequences.

3. Question - if a Guyanese manufacturer sees that he can produce the product at the same quality and sell at the same prices do make a profit, , then tell me why he or she will be not do so?

4. The recent winner of the Nobel prize in Economics did so  because of his work on how human action in the marketplace  might not necessarily always be the economically best action.

5. Please state your source that the same people who support buy local will cry racism and the government punishing them when such policy is implemented. 

6. Even if we produce a certain product  do we have a comparative advantage in producing that product?

7.  BUrnham and the PNC banned many imported products during the PNC dictatorship. Was that a successful policy that resulted in higher rates of social and economic development or were there severe negative social and economic effects in Guyana?

8. Is the preference for foreign goods a result of these being  cheaper and of better quality or is a a result of the colonial hegemonic agenda and drive?

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7.  BUrnham and the PNC banned many imported products during the PNC dictatorship.

Zed,

I would like to step in although the question was not addressed to me,the banning of selected food items was a measure taken by the dictatorial regime in that era,was due to the country lack of foreign exchange,that move was not welcomed by the people, notedly the East Indians, some of the items was their regular diet,from then on the measure that was taken,became a political spin.

Regarding the rest of your question, an economic development was created,it was not legit,it was an underground economy,the illegal food trade mushroomed,even fuel was on the list,to bolster the illegal activities illegal foreign exchange and corruption of the security forces increased,thinking about these events,Burnham created the run away society.

Zed posted:

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6. Even if we produce a certain product  do we have a comparative advantage in producing that product?

 

 

 

 

Mr. Zed I see another poster mentioned that Guyana imports Mango Juice from Barbados and Coconut Water from Antigua. I remember in the 70's Ice Cream was produced locally. Is there a shortage of milk and sugar the main ingredients? Is there a shortage of Guava and sugar that Guava jam is imported? 

Mitts, I was referring specifically to comparative advantage for producing and selling products.

i am surprised how things are done here. They seem unable to integrate the production at the primary level, the packaging and processing, and marketing systems to take advantage of the opportunities that exist both in Guyana and internationally. They pay lip service to supply chain management, to local product, of products other than sugar and rice, of extending the production process here in Guyana. The relevant government agencies and the local capitalists seem to be unable to get over the mental block they have.a

i grow my own guava, vegetables, fruits, peppers, sugar cane and use all to make stuff for us to use. Somehow, many think that this is beneath them or that they do not have the extra hour in the evening to do some gardening.