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Dave posted:

APNU/ AFC propagandist comparing and dragging PPP in the mud ... what a bunch of morons. them can’t help themselves 

Don't forget Old man  scamp man Hamilton Greene being awarded the highest honor by the  PNC.

K
Dave posted:

National Assembly honours convicted terrorist Abdul Kadir as ‘great man’

The National Assembly on Friday honoured convicted terrorist Abdul Kadir as a “great man.”

Kadir died in a U.S. prison last year June while serving a life sentence after he was found guilty in 2010 of plotting to blow up fuel tanks at New York’s Kennedy International Airport.

“There can be no doubt whatsoever that the offenses for which Mr. Kadir was convicted are about as serious as they come, short of murder,” said Judge Dora L. Irizarry of Federal District Court in Brooklyn, in handing down the sentence.

 https://newsroom.gy/2019/04/26...-kadir-as-great-man/

Abdul Kadir, birth name Michael Seaforth, Buxton born, honoured by the PNCR in the Guyana National Assembly ?????

-- travesty of justice.

 

https://i1.wp.com/newsroom.gy/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Kadir-family.jpg?resize=1024%2C571&ssl=1

Members of Abdul Kadir’s family in the National Assembly on Friday

FM
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“There can be no doubt whatsoever that the offenses for which Mr. Kadir was convicted are about as serious as they come, short of murder,” said Judge Dora L. Irizarry of Federal District Court in Brooklyn, in handing down the sentence.

Mitwah
 

https://i1.wp.com/newsroom.gy/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Kadir-family.jpg?resize=1024%2C571&ssl=1

Members of Abdul Kadir’s family in the National Assembly on Friday.

 

I wouldn't necessarily hold anything against Kadir's family for the charges which Kadir was convicted of.

FM
ksazma posted:

https://i1.wp.com/newsroom.gy/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Kadir-family.jpg?resize=1024%2C571&ssl=1

Members of Abdul Kadir’s family in the National Assembly on Friday.

 

I wouldn't necessarily hold anything against Kadir's family for the charges which Kadir was convicted of.

Question Ksazma ...

"What is the focus/purpose for them to be at the Legislature???

FM
Demerara_Guy posted:
ksazma posted:

https://i1.wp.com/newsroom.gy/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Kadir-family.jpg?resize=1024%2C571&ssl=1

Members of Abdul Kadir’s family in the National Assembly on Friday.

 

I wouldn't necessarily hold anything against Kadir's family for the charges which Kadir was convicted of.

Question Ksazma ...

"What is the focus/purpose for them to be at the Legislature???

They shouldn't be there but who in Guyana refuses an invitation?  They were inadvisably invited by the Coalition fools who couldn't wait to go back to the house to give out this recognition.

FM
Iguana posted:
Dondadda posted:

Patterson Yearwood action is the action David Granger who is the CEO of Guyana under the Organic theory of Corporate responsibility. Granger must be borrowing Ramjhattan language and telling you all to “Haul alyuh ass “.

Yep, just like when Priya and Gail cuss up de US Ambassador at he own house and function while eating he food. It reflect pon fat man Donald and yuh fren de Rat.

Now we have the PNC poking the tiger. These 2 parties comprised of idiots are putting us in a terrible position when we have oil on the horizon. Not to mention the likely rise of a free enterprise capitalist in Venezuela sometime soon who the US will support, while Granger is busy "honoring" anti American terrorists. And Jagdeo and the PPP already hated by the US. Leaves us with no friends in a border dispute.

Fifty plus years of sheer shyte under these 2 parties and yet idiots here like nehru, yuji etc. support them. They cannot get out of their own way to govern Guyana. Sickening.

More psychotic rambling from the green lizard. Me go ask labba fuh buss wan cokrit nut pun you head. Mek sure you stay up in the congo plump tree fuh good.

FM

Trump will kick their assess for honouring a convicted clown. Makes me wonder if the PNC and Granger lost their marbles ?

PNC just shot themselves in their foot politically. 

Desperate people do desperate things. 

Anyway, this man is ample proof that America needs to keep its guard up and be on the watch out for Muslim radicals. 

Why is it that radicals are plotting and executing these horrible acts when they follow a religion of peace ?

I would prefer someone to carefully examine specific quotes from the Quran to determine if they are inspired by or misrepresenting those verses. 

Denial will only lead to more acts of terror from these radicals. An honest approach and debate will be beneficial to all. No person should be attacked for asking these valid questions in a democratic western civilization unlike countries like Saudi Arabia where people are hanged or whipped for questioning the Quran. 

FM
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ksazma posted:
 

https://i1.wp.com/newsroom.gy/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Kadir-family.jpg?resize=1024%2C571&ssl=1

Members of Abdul Kadir’s family in the National Assembly on Friday.

 

I wouldn't necessarily hold anything against Kadir's family for the charges which Kadir was convicted of.

I am in agreement about the family but his actions do not warrant PNC's approval in parliament.

FM

US embassy strongly condemns Kadir motion

- says it was an insensitive, thoughtless act, which demonstrates National Assembly’s disregard for gravity of Kadir’s actions

April 29 2019

Source

This story is developing and will be updated.

The United States Embassy today strongly condemned last Friday’s motion in the National Assembly expressing sympathy on the passing of convicted terrorist plotter and former PNCR Member of Parliament, Abdul Kadir.

A statement from the embassy follows:

U.S. Embassy condemns the resolution by the National Assembly

to honor a convicted terrorist

 

Abdul Kadir

The U.S. Embassy in Georgetown condemns the resolution by Guyana’s National Assembly, reportedly honoring the life and work of convicted terrorist Abdul Kadir.  Kadir was sentenced to life in prison in the United States after being found guilty of plotting a 2007 terrorist attack at John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York.  Members of the National Assembly, therefore, chose to honor a man who conspired to kill innocent people from across the United States and around the world.  This resolution is an insensitive and thoughtless act, which demonstrates the National Assembly’s disregard for the gravity of Kadir’s actions.

While speaking at an International Peace Conference recently, U.S. Ambassador Sarah-Ann Lynch held up Guyana as “a model to the world on religious tolerance and understanding.”  The National Assembly’s resolution of April 26 draws into question that reputation.  It also comes on the heels of Guyana’s historic cooperation with the United States on the extradition of an alleged murderer.  Members of Parliament have placed this resolution in direct contradiction to the efforts of security cooperation between our two countries.

With this resolution, honoring a convicted terrorist, members of Guyana’s National Assembly have left a stain on their legacy as representatives of the Guyanese people and on their commitment to the rule of law.

Django

"members of Guyana’s National Assembly have left a stain on their legacy as representatives of the Guyanese people and on their commitment to the rule of law."

FM
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Well said, the PNC shamelessly and disgracefully honoured a convicted terrorist. Totally unacceptable.

No surprise here since PNC is a terror organization.

I hope big brother America is watching them.

FM

Sympathy, not honour 

— Kadir’s motion aimed at directing sympathy to family

— similar resolution honoured PPP’s Gajraj, Bashir 

http://guyanachronicle.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/kadir-696x456.jpg

Abdul Kadir

http://guyanachronicle.com/201.../sympathy-not-honour

April 29 2019

CONTRARY to reports, the National Assembly did not pass a motion to honour the life of the late Abdul Kadir, but rather to recognise his contributions to the Parliament of Guyana while he served as a Member of Parliament, and to sympathise with his grieving wife, children and relatives. In a clear attempt to misrepresent the fact, the People’s Progressive Party/Civic (PPP/C) said the National Assembly, Guyana’s highest decision-making body, was on Friday April 26, 2019 used to ‘honour’ Kadir, a convicted terrorist.

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Isahak Bashir

Though it is a fact that Kadir died in a US prison while serving a life sentence for plotting to blow up the JFK Airport, the PPP/C insinuated that through the motion, the National Assembly honoured Kadir’s entire life, which would also include his link to acts of terrorism.  But the motion, in its resolve clauses, recognised a specific period of Kadir’s life.

The motion read: “Be it resolved, that this National Assembly records its deep regret on the death of Mr. Abdul Kadir, on June 28, 2018, and pays tribute to his dedicated service to the Parliament of Guyana as a Member of Parliament where he served in the Eighth Parliament, from April 17, 2001 to May 2, 2006, and to the people of Guyana.”

ESTABLISHED NORMS

Weighing in on the issue, Veteran Trade Unionist, Lincoln Lewis, said the House’s recognition of Kadir’s contribution as an MP, is in keeping with the well-established custom and practice in Guyana’s Parliament. He explained that this acknowledgement is given whether the member at the time of death, was serving, retired, resigned, expelled or left the Assembly for whatever reason.

“As a people, we must acknowledge that being a Member of Parliament (MP) in any capacity, in any country, is a distinguished achievement whether or not the performance is similarly distinguished. Abdul Kadir is one such distinguished Guyanese among several who have served this country in the National Assembly,” Lewis said. He reiterated that Parliament’s move to recognise Kadir’s service is consistent with the norms.

“It cannot be disputed that Kadir, during this period – April 17, 2001 to May 2, 2006, had an unblemished record as a MP, citizen of Guyana and the world. During the period under review, it cannot be denied that this man exemplified himself in his career, family life, academics, other achievements, and service to his community. Nothing can erase the fact of those contributions to society’s development,” the trade unionist said. Kadir, born under the name Michael Seaforth, was a chemical engineer by profession having graduated from the University of Guyana.

ANGER AND SHAME 

Though acknowledging Kadir’s contributions to society, Lincoln did not shy away from the fact that Kadir, later in life, found himself engaged in activities for which he was convicted in 2010 under the United States’ terrorist laws.

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Ronald Gajraj

“I am sure the family, friends, people who loved him and the people of Guyana, in spite of his outstanding service and contributions to our country, were affected when he was accused and convicted of terrorism. Without a doubt, it brought shock, disbelief, shame, condemnation, dismay, anger and other emotions to his loved ones and countrymen,” Lewis said. He, however, observed that in keeping with the typical response to every issue where political mileage can be sought, passage of the motion has become an issue for partisan political wrangling and excessive rhetoric. This, he said, will only further divide the nation and denies the country an opportunity to acknowledge the truth, even sometimes in a bitter state. “The fact that Kadir was so honoured in the Assembly for the period which he served, and which is consistent with this body’s protocol, puts no stain on Parliament…” The PPP/C, in its statement, accused the People’s National Congress (PNC), a partner within the coalition government, of having a history of honouring and exonerating violent criminals. But Lewis warned against misinformation and cherry picking. “And to the issue of crime, we as a nation must remember that all crimes are bad – white collar, blue collar, corruption, executive lawlessness, public sabotage, domestic or international terrorism, and even those not convicted in a court of law due to technicality or other reasons. We cannot cherry pick or see justification in one as against the other or turn a blind eye to those who commit same because they are of us.  Society functions better where truth and accountability applies to all,” he said.

KILLING SQUAD

While the PPP/C has condemned the move to acknowledge Kadir’s contributions as a MP, it was only recently that the said National Assembly paid tribute to former minister and ambassador of the PPP administration, Ronald Gajraj.

Opposition Leader Bharrat Jagdeo

Prior to taking up his post in India as Guyana’s ambassador there, the former minister had resigned from the PPP Cabinet after reports had surfaced, linking him to the “Phantom” death squads led by convicted drug kingpin, Shaheed “Roger” Khan. During the crime wave which occurred after the 2002 ‘Mash’ Day, Camp Street jailbreak and which spanned the years when Gajraj served as Home Affairs Minister, a number of unexplained deaths had occurred. Several young men remain missing today. The existence of the death squad was first mentioned by former Cabinet Secretary, Dr. Roger Luncheon, during his weekly press briefings at the time. Later, information in the form of telephone records surfaced linking Gajraj to former hit man, the late Axel Williams. Williams’ firearm upgrade on Gajraj’s recommendation raised several eyebrows at the time when men were being killed almost wantonly at the hands of the death squads, which was made up of mostly former policemen.

Gajraj was then made the subject of a presidential Commission of Inquiry (CoI) set-up by Jagdeo to investigate the minister’s ties to the death squad. Former acting Chief Justice, Ian Chang, chaired the three-member body. Retired Major-General and former chairman of the Police Service Commission, Norman McLean, also sat on the body which later exonerated Gajraj from links to the death squad. One victim of the death squad was Kwesi Williams, who was shot and killed by a group of men in full view of the public on the tarmac of the National Cultural Centre. The men had abducted Williams earlier and attempted to take him into the forested area aback the Botanical Gardens. It was in that area that the skeletal remains of the victims of the crime wave were dumped, allegedly at the hands of the death squad. Eyebrows were also raised when it was discovered that wanted man, prison escapee, Dale Moore, and another man, were shot dead a few doors away from the home of Gajraj in Lamaha Gardens at the height of the crime wave. This and a string of other mysterious occurrences during his term as Home Affairs Minister remain unsolved.

TEIXEIRA’S ALLEGATIONS
Top executive of the People’s Progressive Party (PPP) and former Home Affairs Minister, Gail Teixeira, had also told the United States back in 2005 that Gajraj was corrupt and was involved in visa racketeering with another senior official, whom she was forced to sideline. After being forced to resign under international pressure for his alleged involvement in a “death squad” here, Gajraj was posted to head Guyana’s mission in New Delhi.

This revelation was made in a cable dated December 28, 2005 and written by then Charge d’Affaires at the US mission here, Michael Thomas. The cable is one of several that whistle-blowing website Wikileaks, has released. Headlined, “Teixeira struggling to control Home Affairs Ministry,” the cable detailed a conversation between Teixeira and senior officials of the U.S. Embassy here on December 23, 2005, during which she requested a consular briefing on trends in fake Guyanese civil documents detected by the Consular Section. During the meeting, the cable said, Teixeira acknowledged that there “is quite a lot of corruption in the immigration division.

” She was also quoted as saying that she had tried to deal with it by firing many employees in the ministry, but that her greatest fear was that these corrupt former employees will sell their knowledge of the system, and ability to forge documents. She was further quoted in the cable as saying that former Home Affairs Ministry Security Policy Coordinator, Sultan Kassim, “is very closely linked to a number of networks, particularly the Chinese,” and describing a slush fund financed by Brazilian fees for work permits that Gajraj and Kassim had run.”

HURLING BOTTLE AT SPEAKER

Additionally, Isahak Bashir, who was also honoured on Friday, was expelled from the National Assembly for hurling a glass bottle at the then Speaker, Sase Narine. In an interview with this newspaper back in June 2017, Bashir had related that in 1976, he accepted an invitation from then PPP leader, Dr. Cheddi Jagan, to serve as a parliamentarian at a time when the PPP was engaged in extra-parliamentary struggles. Bashir related that during that time, there were many dramatic incidents in Parliament, some of which he orchestrated without any serious reprimand. But he was eventually expelled in 1991, after he hurled a drinking glass at then Speaker of the House, Sase Narain, who was trying to prevent Dr. Jagan from speaking on a motion to prolong the life of Parliament.  Dr. Jagan, at the time, was gaged for unbecoming parliamentary conduct.

Django

U.S condemns Kadir’s motion

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US Ambassador to Guyana, Sarah-Ann Lynch.

April 29 2019

http://guyanachronicle.com/201...ndemns-kadirs-motion

The United States (US) Embassy in Georgetown on Monday condemned a motion passed in the National Assembly last week, which recognised the contributions and  sympathises with the wife and children of the late Abdul Kadir, a convicted terrorist.

The embassy in a statement , described the resolution as” insensitive and thoughtless act, which demonstrates the National Assembly’s disregard for the gravity of Kadir’s actions.”

http://guyanachronicle.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/kadir-300x197.jpg

The late Abdul Kadir

The embassy said that U.S. Ambassador Sarah-Ann Lynch rated Guyana as “a model to the world on religious tolerance and understanding” at an International Peace Conference recently.

However, it said that the resolution of April 26 draws into question that reputation. “It also comes on the heels of Guyana’s historic cooperation with the United States on the extradition of an alleged murderer,” and according to the embassy,Members of Parliament have placed the resolution in direct contradiction to the efforts of security cooperation between our two countries.

“With this resolution, honoring a convicted terrorist, members of Guyana’s National Assembly have left a stain on their legacy as representatives of the Guyanese people and on their commitment to the rule of law,” the embassy said.

The motion, in its resolve clauses, recognised a specific period of Kadir’s life. The motion read: “Be it resolved, that this National Assembly records its deep regret on the death of Mr. Abdul Kadir, on June 28, 2018, and pays tribute to his dedicated service to the Parliament of Guyana as a Member of Parliament where he served in the Eighth Parliament, from April 17, 2001 to May 2, 2006, and to the people of Guyana.”

Kadir was sentenced to life in prison in the United States after being found guilty of plotting a 2007 terrorist attack at John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York.

He died in a US prison while serving a life sentence for plotting to blow up the JFK Airport.

Django

Without having an election, the PNC has lost. Granger going to Cuba for medical help and visiting the country with Cuban Ministers, not good photo opps, US is watching, Jagdeo/PPP is looking good. Time for regime change.

K
yuji22 posted:

Trump will kick their assess for honouring a convicted clown. Makes me wonder if the PNC and Granger lost their marbles ?

PNC just shot themselves in their foot politically. 

Desperate people do desperate things. 

Anyway, this man is ample proof that America needs to keep its guard up and be on the watch out for Muslim radicals. 

Why is it that radicals are plotting and executing these horrible acts when they follow a religion of peace ?

I would prefer someone to carefully examine specific quotes from the Quran to determine if they are inspired by or misrepresenting those verses. 

Denial will only lead to more acts of terror from these radicals. An honest approach and debate will be beneficial to all. No person should be attacked for asking these valid questions in a democratic western civilization unlike countries like Saudi Arabia where people are hanged or whipped for questioning the Quran. 

Consider this for a moment bai. Those verses were there since before 632CE. The current form of violence from some Muslims is fairly new. A few decades the most. If the actions of these terrorists are due to the passages of the Qur'an you point to, why wasn't this kind of terrorism going on since 632CE? I think that while those terrorists are using passages from the Qur'an to justify their actions, if those passages didn't exist, they would have found some other form of justification. I also think that highlighting the passages out of context is also not helpful as the Qur'an was responding to circumstances occurring at the time. I will say that it does show how some Muslims are stupidee as they would effectively blame Qur'an (Muslims' most prized treasure) for their horrible behavior. Lots of people do bad things but most of them are smart enough to not desecrate their sacred bounds.

FM

Sympathy, not honour 

— Kadir’s motion aimed at directing sympathy to family

— similar resolution honoured PPP’s Gajraj, Bashir 

http://guyanachronicle.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/kadir-696x456.jpg

Abdul Kadir

http://guyanachronicle.com/201.../sympathy-not-honour

April 29 2019

CONTRARY to reports, the National Assembly did not pass a motion to honour the life of the late Abdul Kadir, but rather to recognise his contributions to the Parliament of Guyana while he served as a Member of Parliament, and to sympathise with his grieving wife, children and relatives. In a clear attempt to misrepresent the fact, the People’s Progressive Party/Civic (PPP/C) said the National Assembly, Guyana’s highest decision-making body, was on Friday April 26, 2019 used to ‘honour’ Kadir, a convicted terrorist.

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Any idea why the Chronicle thinks that this is cleaning anything up? What facts are the PPP misrepresenting here? Plain and simple the despotic PNC couldn't wait until all the matters pertaining to the NCV were disposed of before honoring a person convicted of plotting to blow up fuel tanks at one of the world's business airports.

FM

Guyana Chronicle = PNC’s New Nation.

They pissed off the Americans. Attacking the PPP does them further damage.

PPP’s PR firm will take full advantage of this unacceptable PNC behaviour. This reminds me when they deemed another terrorist Blackie a national hero. 

PNC goose is cooked. 

Which faction of the PNC created this mess ?

Is it the same faction that called for war on the PPP and their supporters at Congress Place ?

Hey Hey Hey 

FM

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