Does any political party have a plan to address the garbage situation in Guyana? Not only household garabge but cleaning up of the waterways - the gutters, trenches, four-foots, canals, etc., to allow water flow.
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I take it that's a no.
Former Member
c'mon anta. politics is about making members rich through theft, fraud and corruption. the parties that actually care about the welfare and well being of citizens are usually not the ones in power...at least in guyana.
I'm trying to see if this is on the agenda for any of the opposition. The mounds of garbage all around Gy, in GT and elsewhere, are definitely not on the PPP's agenda. Otherwise something would've been done already.
Former Member
why should PPP clean after the PNC?
They shouldn't?quote:Originally posted by Inqubus:
why should PPP clean after the PNC?
Former Member
I agree that the trash in the trenches is disturbing, and it seems to be a recent phenomenon. I noticed it a lot this year, and not so much in previous visits.
No. It's not recent.quote:Originally posted by Henry:
I agree that the trash in the trenches is disturbing, and it seems to be a recent phenomenon. I noticed it a lot this year, and not so much in previous visits.
Former Member
Correct anta, it is hardly a recent phenomena.
The AFC has concrete plans in place:
First and foremost there must be Local Gov't elections. This will be held the soonest day possible upon us acceding to office. In this regard we will not fill our slate with "party hacks". We have taken a decision at the NEC level, and ratified it at our conference, that we will support any progressive civic grouping for the Local Gov't elections. We are simply seeking people who will get the job done.
Secondly, there is an environmental tax that simply goes into the coffers of the state, and is not being used as intended. The AFC will change that from day one.
Thirdly, the AFC will seek investors to establish recycling plants in all three counties, and more than one in a county where necessary. In that regard, we have to tackle the crime situation and set specific incentives to lure investors. So this is more a medium term measure. Our primary target group for investors is our Diaspora.
As it relates to crime, we will examine the Trinidad model where they have accepted external help, and based on the strengths and weaknesses observed, we hope to do better in a shorter time.
If you have any further questions, or wish to be directly involved, please let me know.
I apologise for the late response, but I had an airport pickup and am now back. I will be headed over to the AFC press conference a bit later, where I will be reading a statement again. And later this afternoon, at 17:30Hrs, we have a meeting being headlined by Dr Tarron Khemraj. So it is a packed day.
However, as it relates to any queries on the political front you can always rely on me to respond, just that sometimes it won't be immediate. If you see any delay, and where the possibility exists I may miss the thread, please PM me or email me at gerhard.ramsaroop@gmail.com.
The AFC has concrete plans in place:
First and foremost there must be Local Gov't elections. This will be held the soonest day possible upon us acceding to office. In this regard we will not fill our slate with "party hacks". We have taken a decision at the NEC level, and ratified it at our conference, that we will support any progressive civic grouping for the Local Gov't elections. We are simply seeking people who will get the job done.
Secondly, there is an environmental tax that simply goes into the coffers of the state, and is not being used as intended. The AFC will change that from day one.
Thirdly, the AFC will seek investors to establish recycling plants in all three counties, and more than one in a county where necessary. In that regard, we have to tackle the crime situation and set specific incentives to lure investors. So this is more a medium term measure. Our primary target group for investors is our Diaspora.
As it relates to crime, we will examine the Trinidad model where they have accepted external help, and based on the strengths and weaknesses observed, we hope to do better in a shorter time.
If you have any further questions, or wish to be directly involved, please let me know.
I apologise for the late response, but I had an airport pickup and am now back. I will be headed over to the AFC press conference a bit later, where I will be reading a statement again. And later this afternoon, at 17:30Hrs, we have a meeting being headlined by Dr Tarron Khemraj. So it is a packed day.
However, as it relates to any queries on the political front you can always rely on me to respond, just that sometimes it won't be immediate. If you see any delay, and where the possibility exists I may miss the thread, please PM me or email me at gerhard.ramsaroop@gmail.com.
Former Member
quote:Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
Correct anta, it is hardly a recent phenomena.
The AFC has concrete plans in place:
First and foremost there must be Local Gov't elections. This will be held the soonest day possible upon us acceding to office. In this regard we will not fill our slate with "party hacks". We have taken a decision at the NEC level, and ratified it at our conference, that we will support any progressive civic grouping for the Local Gov't elections. We are simply seeking people who will get the job done.
Secondly, there is an environmental tax that simply goes into the coffers of the state, and is not being used as intended. The AFC will change that from day one.
Thirdly, the AFC will seek investors to establish recycling plants in all three counties, and more than one in a county where necessary. In that regard, we have to tackle the crime situation and set specific incentives. So this is more a medium term measure.
As it relates to crime, we will examine the Trinidad model where they have accepted external help, and based on the strengths and weaknesses observed, we hope to do better in a shorter time.
If you have any further questions, or wish to be directly involved, please let me know.
AFC will do a lot of things too bad they wont have the opportunity to do so.
Horse Man (Guest)
You right inq den fail to realize dat indian people and Amerindian people voting PPP and dat will never change.
The PPP has de Berbicians and Sugar workers vote locked up and they have the LCDS - Amerindian vote locked up.
AFC doan stand a chance. Dem livin a dream
The PPP has de Berbicians and Sugar workers vote locked up and they have the LCDS - Amerindian vote locked up.
AFC doan stand a chance. Dem livin a dream
Former Member
Banna, like you's smoke dry harse dung?quote:Originally posted by Horse Man:
You right inq den fail to realize dat indian people and Amerindian people voting PPP and dat will never change.
The PPP has de Berbicians and Sugar workers vote locked up and they have the LCDS - Amerindian vote locked up.
AFC doan stand a chance. Dem livin a dream
Former Member
Give them their chance to dream and their few months strutting their stuff to get attention. After the elections, no one will remember them.quote:Originally posted by Horse Man:
You right inq den fail to realize dat indian people and Amerindian people voting PPP and dat will never change.
The PPP has de Berbicians and Sugar workers vote locked up and they have the LCDS - Amerindian vote locked up.
AFC doan stand a chance. Dem livin a dream
quote:Originally posted by antabanta:
I take it that's a no.
Guyanese at home cleanup their own mess and to hell with the shared living spaces in a community.
Former Member
That's what they said last time too...quote:Originally posted by Wendy Holmes:Give them their chance to dream and their few months strutting their stuff to get attention. After the elections, no one will remember them.quote:Originally posted by Horse Man:
You right inq den fail to realize dat indian people and Amerindian people voting PPP and dat will never change.
The PPP has de Berbicians and Sugar workers vote locked up and they have the LCDS - Amerindian vote locked up.
AFC doan stand a chance. Dem livin a dream
Horse Man (Guest)
quote:Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:Banna, like you's smoke dry harse dung?quote:Originally posted by Horse Man:
You right inq den fail to realize dat indian people and Amerindian people voting PPP and dat will never change.
The PPP has de Berbicians and Sugar workers vote locked up and they have the LCDS - Amerindian vote locked up.
AFC doan stand a chance. Dem livin a dream
Watch your language I am not buggerdsee, be nice to me or else I will report you to the moderator for language unbecoming an opposition weakling.
Former Member
quote:Originally posted by antabanta:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Henry:
I agree that the trash in the trenches is disturbing, and it seems to be a recent phenomenon. I noticed it a lot this year, and not so much in previous visits
No. It's not recent.
Quite true, it is not a recent phenomena. However, with the recent trend of fast food proliferation and other consumable product, coupled with a marked increase of disposable income, littering has attained a crisis proportion. While Government at every level shares direct responsibilities and deserve to have their heads buried in the mounds of garbage, I believe every segment of society, individually & collectively are part and parcel of the rapid deterioration . There was a time when people take pride in their living environment / surroundings.
Former Member
quote:Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
Correct anta, it is hardly a recent phenomena.
The AFC has concrete plans in place:
First and foremost there must be Local Gov't elections. This will be held the soonest day possible upon us acceding to office. In this regard we will not fill our slate with "party hacks". We have taken a decision at the NEC level, and ratified it at our conference, that we will support any progressive civic grouping for the Local Gov't elections. We are simply seeking people who will get the job done.
Secondly, there is an environmental tax that simply goes into the coffers of the state, and is not being used as intended. The AFC will change that from day one.
Thirdly, the AFC will seek investors to establish recycling plants in all three counties, and more than one in a county where necessary. In that regard, we have to tackle the crime situation and set specific incentives to lure investors. So this is more a medium term measure. Our primary target group for investors is our Diaspora.
As it relates to crime, we will examine the Trinidad model where they have accepted external help, and based on the strengths and weaknesses observed, we hope to do better in a shorter time.
If you have any further questions, or wish to be directly involved, please let me know.
I apologise for the late response, but I had an airport pickup and am now back. I will be headed over to the AFC press conference a bit later, where I will be reading a statement again. And later this afternoon, at 17:30Hrs, we have a meeting being headlined by Dr Tarron Khemraj. So it is a packed day.
However, as it relates to any queries on the political front you can always rely on me to respond, just that sometimes it won't be immediate. If you see any delay, and where the possibility exists I may miss the thread, please PM me or email me at gerhard.ramsaroop@gmail.com.
Gerhard,
While waiting to ascend office, is it not feasible to create awareness now as to this embarrassing situation? The time is NOW for Civic groups, community leaders and individuals to haul their heads out of the shyt mounds and deal with the problem.
quote:Originally posted by Mara:quote:Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
Correct anta, it is hardly a recent phenomena.
The AFC has concrete plans in place:
First and foremost there must be Local Gov't elections. This will be held the soonest day possible upon us acceding to office. In this regard we will not fill our slate with "party hacks". We have taken a decision at the NEC level, and ratified it at our conference, that we will support any progressive civic grouping for the Local Gov't elections. We are simply seeking people who will get the job done.
Secondly, there is an environmental tax that simply goes into the coffers of the state, and is not being used as intended. The AFC will change that from day one.
Thirdly, the AFC will seek investors to establish recycling plants in all three counties, and more than one in a county where necessary. In that regard, we have to tackle the crime situation and set specific incentives to lure investors. So this is more a medium term measure. Our primary target group for investors is our Diaspora.
As it relates to crime, we will examine the Trinidad model where they have accepted external help, and based on the strengths and weaknesses observed, we hope to do better in a shorter time.
If you have any further questions, or wish to be directly involved, please let me know.
I apologise for the late response, but I had an airport pickup and am now back. I will be headed over to the AFC press conference a bit later, where I will be reading a statement again. And later this afternoon, at 17:30Hrs, we have a meeting being headlined by Dr Tarron Khemraj. So it is a packed day.
However, as it relates to any queries on the political front you can always rely on me to respond, just that sometimes it won't be immediate. If you see any delay, and where the possibility exists I may miss the thread, please PM me or email me at gerhard.ramsaroop@gmail.com.
Gerhard,
While waiting to ascend office, is it not feasible to create awareness now as to this embarrassing situation? The time is NOW for Civic groups, community leaders and individuals to haul their heads out of the shyt mounds and deal with the problem.
Some concerned groups usually go around pick up garbage. I think, came to the conclusion it was a waste of time.
Those plans seem very long-winded, vague and iffy. What if the local govt elections result in the same corrupt practices? What if the budget needs the environmental tax to be used elsewhere? What if the environmental tax is not enough? What if the AFC does not get any private investors to put up recycling plants? Is the Trinidad approach to crime working? What if it doesn't work in Guyana?quote:Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
Correct anta, it is hardly a recent phenomena.
The AFC has concrete plans in place:
First and foremost there must be Local Gov't elections. This will be held the soonest day possible upon us acceding to office. In this regard we will not fill our slate with "party hacks". We have taken a decision at the NEC level, and ratified it at our conference, that we will support any progressive civic grouping for the Local Gov't elections. We are simply seeking people who will get the job done.
Secondly, there is an environmental tax that simply goes into the coffers of the state, and is not being used as intended. The AFC will change that from day one.
Thirdly, the AFC will seek investors to establish recycling plants in all three counties, and more than one in a county where necessary. In that regard, we have to tackle the crime situation and set specific incentives to lure investors. So this is more a medium term measure. Our primary target group for investors is our Diaspora.
As it relates to crime, we will examine the Trinidad model where they have accepted external help, and based on the strengths and weaknesses observed, we hope to do better in a shorter time.
If you have any further questions, or wish to be directly involved, please let me know.
I apologise for the late response, but I had an airport pickup and am now back. I will be headed over to the AFC press conference a bit later, where I will be reading a statement again. And later this afternoon, at 17:30Hrs, we have a meeting being headlined by Dr Tarron Khemraj. So it is a packed day.
However, as it relates to any queries on the political front you can always rely on me to respond, just that sometimes it won't be immediate. If you see any delay, and where the possibility exists I may miss the thread, please PM me or email me at gerhard.ramsaroop@gmail.com.
No need to apologize for delayed responses. I prefer to continue posting on the forum to generate more involved discussions.
Why don't we start with simpler solutions?
1. Compel local govts/village councils etc. to remove all garbage NOW (now being whenever you have the authority). Provide assistance from any and all available resources - prisoners, GDF, GPM, etc.
2. Implement a garbage pickup and disposal system countrywide. In many rural areas people already burn their own garbage.
3. Implement a policing system, perhaps incorporating people within communities (an extension of the neighborhood watches) via incentives, to ensure the dunkadam lunatics don't start throwing their garbage over their fences or outside their windows as soon as it's cleaned up.
4. Ban all styrofoam products related to eating and drinking. Shouldn't this be the first step for a nation intent on pursuing eco-tourism?
5. Impose a heavier tax on plastic bottles, cups, etc.
Can't think of any more now but I'm sure there are effective options available.
Why are housing schemes built without proper sewerage disposal systems and exposed dirt drains? Wouldn't the drainage systems be more efficient if more are made of concrete and covered if possible as opposed to just digging a trench in the ground? Right there is an idea to generate work for an entire industry or industries.
Former Member
quote:Originally posted by antabanta:Those plans seem very long-winded, vague and iffy. What if the local govt elections result in the same corrupt practices? What if the budget needs the environmental tax to be used elsewhere? What if the environmental tax is not enough? What if the AFC does not get any private investors to put up recycling plants? Is the Trinidad approach to crime working? What if it doesn't work in Guyana?quote:Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
Correct anta, it is hardly a recent phenomena.
The AFC has concrete plans in place:
First and foremost there must be Local Gov't elections. This will be held the soonest day possible upon us acceding to office. In this regard we will not fill our slate with "party hacks". We have taken a decision at the NEC level, and ratified it at our conference, that we will support any progressive civic grouping for the Local Gov't elections. We are simply seeking people who will get the job done.
Secondly, there is an environmental tax that simply goes into the coffers of the state, and is not being used as intended. The AFC will change that from day one.
Thirdly, the AFC will seek investors to establish recycling plants in all three counties, and more than one in a county where necessary. In that regard, we have to tackle the crime situation and set specific incentives to lure investors. So this is more a medium term measure. Our primary target group for investors is our Diaspora.
As it relates to crime, we will examine the Trinidad model where they have accepted external help, and based on the strengths and weaknesses observed, we hope to do better in a shorter time.
If you have any further questions, or wish to be directly involved, please let me know.
I apologise for the late response, but I had an airport pickup and am now back. I will be headed over to the AFC press conference a bit later, where I will be reading a statement again. And later this afternoon, at 17:30Hrs, we have a meeting being headlined by Dr Tarron Khemraj. So it is a packed day.
However, as it relates to any queries on the political front you can always rely on me to respond, just that sometimes it won't be immediate. If you see any delay, and where the possibility exists I may miss the thread, please PM me or email me at gerhard.ramsaroop@gmail.com.
No need to apologize for delayed responses. I prefer to continue posting on the forum to generate more involved discussions.
Why don't we start with simpler solutions?
1. Compel local govts/village councils etc. to remove all garbage NOW (now being whenever you have the authority). Provide assistance from any and all available resources - prisoners, GDF, GPM, etc.
2. Implement a garbage pickup and disposal system countrywide. In many rural areas people already burn their own garbage.
3. Implement a policing system, perhaps incorporating people within communities (an extension of the neighborhood watches) via incentives, to ensure the dunkadam lunatics don't start throwing their garbage over their fences or outside their windows as soon as it's cleaned up.
4. Ban all styrofoam products related to eating and drinking. Shouldn't this be the first step for a nation intent on pursuing eco-tourism?
5. Impose a heavier tax on plastic bottles, cups, etc.
Can't think of any more now but I'm sure there are effective options available.
Why are housing schemes built without proper sewerage disposal systems and exposed dirt drains? Wouldn't the drainage systems be more efficient if more are made of concrete and covered if possible as opposed to just digging a trench in the ground? Right there is an idea to generate work for an entire industry or industries.
Antabanta, your points are taken. The garbage issue need a two-pronged appraoch, cleaning up te current mess, and this will need to be done with the local Govt, holding elections, etc. There are som epolitics tied up with the mees and mal-function.
REgarding a longer-term solution to reducing waste, the issue of policy needs to be adressed. We need to encourage recycling and also have good enforcement. There are many ways to achieve this but it's "long winded".
In summary, we need to have immediate measures and an set of policies going forward, and some of your thoughts are in sync with those of the AFC.
Former Member
Gerhard, Guyanese people have beocome to lazy and too nasty. They need to do their part. People don't even want to keep the surroundings around their homes clean, weeding parapet, etc. They depend too much on the city council/government. Why can't peopl realize by now that this Government is not doing jack for anyone, their primary concern is to find a way to hold on to power and then its business as usual for them with zero vision for the well being and development of Guyana. All they government is developing is their own personal economy and mansion for the future.
I was passing through south ruimveldt a few months back and most of the streets have standing water. There is absolutely no way for that water to run off the streets because people's parapet are built up higher than the level of the road. All it takes is for the neighbours go get a shovel and dig a gutter from the road through their parapet to the drain for the water to run off, but they are not doing that, they are waiting for the city council or the government to come and do it.
I was passing through south ruimveldt a few months back and most of the streets have standing water. There is absolutely no way for that water to run off the streets because people's parapet are built up higher than the level of the road. All it takes is for the neighbours go get a shovel and dig a gutter from the road through their parapet to the drain for the water to run off, but they are not doing that, they are waiting for the city council or the government to come and do it.
Flogging a few perps could be a start.
Horse Man (Guest)
quote:Originally posted by Guyanese Patriot:
Gerhard, Guyanese people have beocome to lazy and too nasty. They need to do their part. People don't even want to keep the surroundings around their homes clean, weeding parapet, etc. They depend too much on the city council/government. Why can't peopl realize by now that this Government is not doing jack for anyone, their primary concern is to find a way to hold on to power and then its business as usual for them with zero vision for the well being and development of Guyana. All they government is developing is their own personal economy and mansion for the future.
I was passing through south ruimveldt a few months back and most of the streets have standing water. There is absolutely no way for that water to run off the streets because people's parapet are built up higher than the level of the road. All it takes is for the neighbours go get a shovel and dig a gutter from the road through their parapet to the drain for the water to run off, but they are not doing that, they are waiting for the city council or the government to come and do it.
You are one hundred percent right can you believe people in Guyana are complaining because the water is not clear it has lil muddy color, People in Guyana complain that they do not get electricity you know how many places in america don't have electricity and phone lines?
No doubt it will take time and effort to implement and maintain a long term plan to control the mess. Listing ideas on paper is easy. My question is does any of the opposition attach enough significance to this issue to have done some research and come up with a well-thought out plan? Not just vague list of ideas that anyone can rattle off. I'm not in Gy politics but the list I posted, off the top of my head, seems a bit stronger than Gerhard's. That tells me the AFC hasn't really applied much thought in this area. No need to mention the PPP and the PNC - we already know they don't give a damn.
Former Member
quote:Originally posted by antabanta:Those plans seem very long-winded, vague and iffy. What if the local govt elections result in the same corrupt practices? What if the budget needs the environmental tax to be used elsewhere? What if the environmental tax is not enough? What if the AFC does not get any private investors to put up recycling plants? Is the Trinidad approach to crime working? What if it doesn't work in Guyana?quote:Originally posted by Gerhard Ramsaroop:
Correct anta, it is hardly a recent phenomena.
The AFC has concrete plans in place:
First and foremost there must be Local Gov't elections. This will be held the soonest day possible upon us acceding to office. In this regard we will not fill our slate with "party hacks". We have taken a decision at the NEC level, and ratified it at our conference, that we will support any progressive civic grouping for the Local Gov't elections. We are simply seeking people who will get the job done.
Secondly, there is an environmental tax that simply goes into the coffers of the state, and is not being used as intended. The AFC will change that from day one.
Thirdly, the AFC will seek investors to establish recycling plants in all three counties, and more than one in a county where necessary. In that regard, we have to tackle the crime situation and set specific incentives to lure investors. So this is more a medium term measure. Our primary target group for investors is our Diaspora.
As it relates to crime, we will examine the Trinidad model where they have accepted external help, and based on the strengths and weaknesses observed, we hope to do better in a shorter time.
If you have any further questions, or wish to be directly involved, please let me know.
I apologise for the late response, but I had an airport pickup and am now back. I will be headed over to the AFC press conference a bit later, where I will be reading a statement again. And later this afternoon, at 17:30Hrs, we have a meeting being headlined by Dr Tarron Khemraj. So it is a packed day.
However, as it relates to any queries on the political front you can always rely on me to respond, just that sometimes it won't be immediate. If you see any delay, and where the possibility exists I may miss the thread, please PM me or email me at gerhard.ramsaroop@gmail.com.
No need to apologize for delayed responses. I prefer to continue posting on the forum to generate more involved discussions.
Why don't we start with simpler solutions?
1. Compel local govts/village councils etc. to remove all garbage NOW (now being whenever you have the authority). Provide assistance from any and all available resources - prisoners, GDF, GPM, etc.
2. Implement a garbage pickup and disposal system countrywide. In many rural areas people already burn their own garbage.
3. Implement a policing system, perhaps incorporating people within communities (an extension of the neighborhood watches) via incentives, to ensure the dunkadam lunatics don't start throwing their garbage over their fences or outside their windows as soon as it's cleaned up.
4. Ban all styrofoam products related to eating and drinking. Shouldn't this be the first step for a nation intent on pursuing eco-tourism?
5. Impose a heavier tax on plastic bottles, cups, etc.
Can't think of any more now but I'm sure there are effective options available.
Why are housing schemes built without proper sewerage disposal systems and exposed dirt drains? Wouldn't the drainage systems be more efficient if more are made of concrete and covered if possible as opposed to just digging a trench in the ground? Right there is an idea to generate work for an entire industry or industries.
Points taken anta. You are correct. Those are certainly things that can be done from the get go.
Of course, it would not be as efficient until you get new people in place, given that many of the current people are but party yes people, and many NDCs have actually gone defunct, but yes, at least some things will get done.
The GPM doesn't exist anymore. However, we are supportive of a form of National Service devoid of politics.
I understand your concerns as they relate to the plans I laid out, especially given the record you see in Guyana for the past 45 years since Independence. However, they are a must, and failure cannot be an option. Otherwise, we will be voted out - remember we have no ethnic base to depend on.
I do appreciate what you have suggested, as this will have to be an integral part of the 100 day plan. Thank you.
Gerhard... the GPM exists as 2nd Brigade of the GDF - same people, same clothing, same operations, just different name. Up to a little while ago it was commanded by Col Terry Stuart. As for getting people in place, there are punitive measures that can be taken against people not doing their work - conversely incentives for people who actually do their work. Why not empower the people within communities to do more? That will take care of corrupt/impotent officials. My good friend Cain recommended flogging.
Former Member
quote:Originally posted by Guyanese Patriot:
Gerhard, Guyanese people have beocome to lazy and too nasty. They need to do their part. People don't even want to keep the surroundings around their homes clean, weeding parapet, etc. They depend too much on the city council/government. Why can't peopl realize by now that this Government is not doing jack for anyone, their primary concern is to find a way to hold on to power and then its business as usual for them with zero vision for the well being and development of Guyana. All they government is developing is their own personal economy and mansion for the future.
I was passing through south ruimveldt a few months back and most of the streets have standing water. There is absolutely no way for that water to run off the streets because people's parapet are built up higher than the level of the road. All it takes is for the neighbours go get a shovel and dig a gutter from the road through their parapet to the drain for the water to run off, but they are not doing that, they are waiting for the city council or the government to come and do it.
What I found in Guyana was a lack in sense of nationhood, a lack of concern for the nation and it's image, little pride in anything except one's self and one's self interest. People seems just concerned with what is important to each individual and in most cases, is how to leave the shores. They have given up on the Govt, the Nation and their neighbours.
Guyana needs a total rebuild from the ground up, almost a "cultural-revolution" of sorts, I don't mean in the chairman Mao or religious way, but a nationalist way. The nation is like an artificial entity, several nations in one, each with it's own agenda. The PPP is not the poeple to do it, infact they, along with the PNC are the main culprits in the demise of national pride and sense of nationhood. The PNC did their damage but there were hopes the PPP would restore what was lost. Instead, BJ's PPP chose to exploit the deficiencies created by the PNC's mis-rule to their own advantage, thus the downward spiral.
If there ever was one glaring incident as to the nationalistic and moral decay which has taken hold in the society was the reaction of the taxi drivers to the recent plane crash. I know people like Nehru and BG_S will call it free enterprise at it's best. But they should note, even the most free of societies are bound to some basic rules, rules guided basic morality, decency and simple pride. In no society an attitude of "anything goes" should be tolerated.
Former Member
quote:Originally posted by antabanta:
Does any political party have a plan to address the garbage situation in Guyana? Not only household garabge but cleaning up of the waterways - the gutters, trenches, four-foots, canals, etc., to allow water flow.
I believe in community self-help where Guyanese must take the initiative to do something for their community. We can't sit and wait for government to do everything. Guyanese are too lazy to work, but strong to drink rum every damn day.
Former Member
quote:Originally posted by Horse Man:
Amerindian people voting PPP and dat will never change.
First of all while you bot most of the Amerindian votes last time the UF and GAp also got a fair amount.
Based on remarks by touchaus dont be too sure that you will get this again.
Former Member
quote:Originally posted by Horse Man:
you know how many places in america don't have electricity and phone lines?
Like where? New York? Because Gtwn has this problem and you ought to compare like with like. Dont use some village in the Appalachians unless you wish a comparison with a village near Roraima.
Former Member
quote:Originally posted by Cobra:
I believe in community self-help where Guyanese must take the initiative to do something for their community. We can't sit and wait for government to do everything. Guyanese are too lazy to work, but strong to drink rum every damn day.
I agree with you. Also make sure that the govt reduces its taxation to offset services that it expects citizens to perform.
Former Member
quote:Originally posted by baseman:
What I found in Guyana was a lack in sense of nationhood, a lack of concern for the nation and it's image, little pride in anything except one's self and one's self interest. .
Well if a nation consists of people who are preparing to leave, or resigned to the fact that they cant one will not expect community pride which leads to a sense that it is their responsibility.
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Garbage, garbage all about they drop
Garbage, garbage just watch them rot.
Garbage, garbage just watch them rot.
whatever happened to that incenerator on princess st.?
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And if you read my full post, I'm not blaming the people. Leadership have to instill such pride and esnse of nationhood. Coruption, cronyism, nepotism and all else ar cancers to a cohiesive society. Any mind you, the lack of cohesion in Guyana transends race.quote:Originally posted by caribj:quote:Originally posted by baseman:
What I found in Guyana was a lack in sense of nationhood, a lack of concern for the nation and it's image, little pride in anything except one's self and one's self interest. .
Well if a nation consists of people who are preparing to leave, or resigned to the fact that they cant one will not expect community pride which leads to a sense that it is their responsibility.
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What needs to be done is for every community to be responsible for its own solid waste disposal. Each village should have its own garbage dump and each citizen responsible for transporting garbage there. The other solution is to levy a separate tax on homeowners to pay for garbage disposal and outsource the disposal to private contractors. The central govt should not be responsible for every aspect of citizens lives like the AFC are suggesting. The towns and villages need to be responsible for their own maintenance, from roads to water to drainage to garbage disposal and security. This is the model in most communities in the US and it works. You get what you pay for. The parliament needs to come together and mold the way of the future and stop this dependency on govt to fix all ills.
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quote:Originally posted by BGurd_See:
What needs to be done is for every community to be responsible for its own solid waste disposal. Each village should have its own garbage dump and each citizen responsible for transporting garbage there. The other solution is to levy a separate tax on homeowners to pay for garbage disposal and outsource the disposal to private contractors. The central govt should not be responsible for every aspect of citizens lives like the AFC are suggesting. The towns and villages need to be responsible for their own maintenance, from roads to water to drainage to garbage disposal and security. This is the model in most communities in the US and it works. You get what you pay for. The parliament needs to come together and mold the way of the future and stop this dependency on govt to fix all ills.
Some sense, but largely utter nonesense. You leave it up to each village, you will have garbage dumps all over. You need critical mass and a coherrent policy to ensure adequate and safe disposal of garbage. You are a dunce of unimaginable proportions, you talk garbage, even when we talk about garbage. What DON'T you talk garbage about, you dunce?
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quote:Originally posted by baseman:quote:Originally posted by BGurd_See:
What needs to be done is for every community to be responsible for its own solid waste disposal. Each village should have its own garbage dump and each citizen responsible for transporting garbage there. The other solution is to levy a separate tax on homeowners to pay for garbage disposal and outsource the disposal to private contractors. The central govt should not be responsible for every aspect of citizens lives like the AFC are suggesting. The towns and villages need to be responsible for their own maintenance, from roads to water to drainage to garbage disposal and security. This is the model in most communities in the US and it works. You get what you pay for. The parliament needs to come together and mold the way of the future and stop this dependency on govt to fix all ills.
Some sense, but largely utter nonesense. You leave it up to each village, you will have garbage dumps all over. You need critical mass and a coherrent policy to ensure adequate and safe disposal of garbage. You are a dunce of unimaginable proportions, you talk garbage, even when we talk about garbage. What DON'T you talk garbage about, you dunce?
This what they did in the old days, people buried and burnt garbage in their back yards, much cheaper than having the garbage trucked away. I don't think that the Guyanese people have the stomach to pay the kind of taxes that the rest of us in the 1st world pay to dispose of garbage. You AFC creeps have grandiose plans with no possible way to pay for its. hahahhaha
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quote:Originally posted by baseman:And if you read my full post, I'm not blaming the people. Leadership have to instill such pride and esnse of nationhood. Coruption, cronyism, nepotism and all else ar cancers to a cohiesive society. Any mind you, the lack of cohesion in Guyana transends race.quote:Originally posted by caribj:
Well if a nation consists of people who are preparing to leave, or resigned to the fact that they cant one will not expect community pride which leads to a sense that it is their responsibility.
Which is exactly my point. Why will thw people have community pride when they dont feel they have a long term stake in the community?
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