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Granger says election result will be lawfully challenged, urges supporters to remain calm

Former President David Granger speaking today.
Former President David Granger speaking today.

Former President David Granger in a Facebook address today maintained his position that the declared results of the March 2nd elections were not acceptable and he accused the PPP/C government of giving former APNU+AFC government officials an unreasonable amount of time  to leave their lodgings.

 

Granger saidL “The PNC repeats its assertion that fraudulent votes should not have been held to represent the will of the electorate”. This, he said, “violates fundamental principles of democracy.” The Guyana Elections Commission declaration should have only been made on “valid” votes, he maintained, although several courts have clarified that the votes of the recount were valid.

“The PNC cannot endorse a flawed report and will continue its campaign to ensure that the votes of all Guyanese are accurately recorded, tallied and reported. The recount process revealed a plethora of anomalies”, Granger asserted.  

He added that the recount was meant to determine both the quantitative and qualitative character of the votes cast at the General and Regional Elections and to determine a final credible count  at the end of the recount.“However it became manifest that the result did not meet the standard of a credible election. The PNC in the national interest and with the view to preserving peace and maintaining order has acted responsibly throughout this prolonged political crisis. We implore all Guyanese to remain calm and peaceful. The PNC will challenge the declared result lawfully. We urge our members, supporters and friends who have been patient throughout our campaign and the post-election process to continue to conduct themselves in a lawful and peaceful manner”.

He expressed appreciation for everyone who participated in the elections and brought passion, power and patriotism to the exercise.

“Our struggle for justice continues”, he added.

 

Granger and his APNU+AFC coalition had been accused of seeking to benefit from the rigging of the District Four count by Returning Officer Clairmont Mingo on March 5th. His count gave a win to the coalition but a court order prevented the final result from being declared and this then led to an agreement for a contentious recount of votes. This was followed by a series of related court actions which made it all the way to the Caribbean Court of Justice. The recount result was finally declared on August 2nd by GECOM Chair Justice (rtd) Claudette Singh, handing victory to the PPP/C.

Earlier in his address today, Granger said that “Former ministers whose normal residences are located in rural and hinterland regions were swiftly ordered to vacate their government quarters unreasonably within 36 hours. Public servants were locked out of their offices without explanation.  Contracted officials were threatened with arbitrary and summary termination of their services”. He then issued a warning to the new government over this behaviour.

His address can be found at: https://www.facebook.com/APNU....eos/213764283396603/

https://www.stabroeknews.com/2...ters-to-remain-calm/

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Granger and GECOM had over 5 long years to have an updated voters list, he was incharge of the election/rigging machinery, any rigging done was by the PNC.

 Fact remains that MANY BLACKS voted for change, they voted PPP. Who kicked the PNC out? BLACK VOTERS.

K

Only after it was evident that the count was going against the PNC, the chanting began. He will need to provide proof that dead people voted to supply names, addresses, death certificates, and relevant information. He is just venting to satisfy his followers. ALL the courts have ruled against him. Where he is going to go? The CCJ? They will give him a certificate for regular attendance. Good luck Lucifer Granger.

FM

The PNC isn't going to challenge the declaration. Granger is only saying so to give his supporters to remain calm and as time past they too will accept that there is a new government in place and they will go back to living their lives.

FM

The 2015 election petition has to be heard first. So me learned friend has to take a number and stand in line.

No, it doesn't have to--that position will lead to protests of various kinds that will be difficult to control or contain.  The High Court must deal with the petition as expeditiously as it did Nandlall's various actions.

T
@Totaram posted:

No, it doesn't have to--that position will lead to protests of various kinds that will be difficult to control or contain.  The High Court must deal with the petition as expeditiously as it did Nandlall's various actions.

I don't think the PNC will be filing any petition though.

FM

Why is Granger hanging on. The PNC should just drop the fool. He had the perfect chance of making Guyana a good place and he blew it. An outright bigot. I said the other day, I doan think Granger have any indo associates.

So also is Volda.

S
@seignet posted:

Why is Granger hanging on. The PNC should just drop the fool. He had the perfect chance of making Guyana a good place and he blew it. An outright bigot. I said the other day, I doan think Granger have any indo associates.

So also is Volda.

My guess is that things will change by the time they present their list of MPs to the National Assembly.

FM

The 2015 election petition has to be heard first. So me learned friend has to take a number and stand in line.

PPP/C filed a petition for the 2015 elections which is yet to be heard in the courts.

Perhaps indeed PNCR/APNU/AFC will file an election petition which will be heard in about more than 5 years after the hearing of the PPP/C petition filed in 2015.

FM

Firstly, except to set the record straight, the 2015 elections petition is effectively a none issue. Secondly, I doubt the PNC will be filing any petition. They are deeply in debt from all the frivolous lawsuits they filed the past 5 months. 

FM

I would like to know that Guyana has a legitimate government so I hope apnu/AFC can bring forward their claims to court and get justice. The only hope I have so far is justice. 

 

FM
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If Norton is going to be the next leader of the PNC then they surely won't have any chance of winning votes from across racial lines. He is too radical and blatantly dishonest. 

If Volda, Harmon and now Norton are out...who you suggest??

V
@VishMahabir posted:

If Volda, Harmon and now Norton are out...who you suggest??

@Former Member posted:

Nagamootoo.

Haaa haaa haaaaa haaahaaaa  

You mean Moses Nagamootoo ---

So, he was always a die-hard member of the PNCR inner circle.

FM
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@seignet posted:

possibly an indo.

Perhaps Joey Jagan who always aspired to be the leader of a political organization. 

He can get the support of his god-sisters and god-brothers in the PNCR.

He can become the leader of his god-father's political party.

FM
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Who do you think will succeed Granger as leader of the PNC?

Is Dominic Gaskin a possibility? Yes I know he is AFC and it would appear to be a reverse takeover. However Granger can engineer it. Besides he has generated crossover appeal when he spoke out about Mingo's antics and then his later comments that the Coalition lost the election. It is possible that when he made those comments that Gaskin was already thinking of the post-Granger Coalition. This strategy would not be dissimilar to Senator Romney currently positioning himself for the post-Trump Republican Party.

L

I don't see revival of the PNC through leadership in the short term.  The PNC would have to get a decent leader with a powerful influence over the ranks. For him to succeed in building a coalition against the government the PPP will to screw up royally.  I don't see a new PNC at all. 

Billy Ram Balgobin

Gaskin will fail. The die hards will not forget nor forgive him. 

I don't think the PNC can repair its image of their behavior the past 19 months. Their only option is to wait on the next generation as those now alive will remember what they did. 

FM

I don't see revival of the PNC through leadership in the short term.  The PNC would have to get a decent leader with a powerful influence over the ranks. For him to succeed in building a coalition against the government the PPP will to screw up royally.  I don't see a new PNC at all. 

That's what the orbuculum says one party dictatorship headed by Indo Guyanese. 

Django
@Locutus posted:

Is Dominic Gaskin a possibility? Yes I know he is AFC and it would appear to be a reverse takeover. However Granger can engineer it. Besides he has generated crossover appeal when he spoke out about Mingo's antics and then his later comments that the Coalition lost the election. It is possible that when he made those comments that Gaskin was already thinking of the post-Granger Coalition. This strategy would not be dissimilar to Senator Romney currently positioning himself for the post-Trump Republican Party.

Gaskin will not be leader of PNCR .There will be a shake up in the party , look out for young faces. Also there will be changes in the AFC ,communicated via the grape vine.

The PPP margin of victory is slim and claims of Electoral Fraud , chances are they can be booted out with effective Electoral reforms .We have to look out for prevention of new voters list .

Constitutional changes will be in the back burner ,politicians embraces the power given by Burnham Constitution where articles and clauses aren't clearly defined.

Django
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@Django posted:

 

Constitutional changes will be in the back burner ,politicians embraces to power given by Burnham Constitution where articles and clauses aren't clearly defined.

I am not sure how much power Burnham Constitution give to politicians because the Coalition while in government lost every legal battle from  that same constitution. If the governing politicians can't benefit from it why would any politician want to embrace it?

FM
@Former Member posted:

I am not sure how much power Burnham Constitution give to politicians because the Coalition while in government lost every legal battle from  that same constitution. If the governing politicians can't benefit from it why would any politician want to embrace it?

The PPP is lucky that Granger did not misuse the power he had by virtue of that constitution.  Burnham and that constitution would have been a whole different matter.  

T
@Former Member posted:

I am not sure how much power Burnham Constitution give to politicians because the Coalition while in government lost every legal battle from  that same constitution. If the governing politicians can't benefit from it why would any politician want to embrace it?

It's not the legal battles it's the interpretation of the articles ,it's been twisted to suit the purpose of  of some politicians.

It's  not week and the President is excercising the powers given.

Django
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Django is a pusher of lies generated from Congress Place.  I refuse to believe most the rubbish he brings to this forum. The whole world saw how the PNC attempted to rig the March 2 elections and how much the opposition and other forces in the society had to fight to stop it. Our sister Caribbean states intervened and did a thorough examination of the results from the SOPS vs. the actual ballots in the boxes and found that the PPP won the elections.  Not one observer group or political party in the opposition found the recount to be fraudulent, yet Granger keeps lying through teeth about anomalies and dead people voting.  

Today's Stabroek News editorial talked about the PPP's slim majority of 33 out of 65 and cautioned that it might slip in the future due to the increase in mixed and Amerindian votes.  They likewise cautioned that the PNC command of 40-42% support is under serious threat since the Afro population has declined to 28%.  Coalition government might be the only way to form a government in the not too distant future like it is in Suriname.  

PPPites are cognizant of this fact and are surely working on increasing its support nationwide across ethnic lines.  The PNC's hardline racist stand that threatens  Indo-Guyanese  will have a even more difficult capturing goverment that the well-established PPP which has a better record in governing, respecting the constitution, building the nation's economy, and improving the living standard.

Billy Ram Balgobin
@Totaram posted:

The PPP is lucky that Granger did not misuse the power he had by virtue of that constitution.  Burnham and that constitution would have been a whole different matter.  

That's  a fact ,Granger could have sworn in as President .The second declaration of Region 4 wasn't thrown out by the Court when it was sought to make it void. All the latter court matters was to get the declaration on validity of the recount tabulated votes.

Django

Django is a pusher of lies generated from Congress Place.  I refuse to believe most the rubbish he brings to this forum. The whole world saw how the PNC attempted to rig the March 2 elections and how much the opposition and other forces in the society had to fight to stop it. Our sister Caribbean states intervened and did a thorough examination of the results from the SOPS vs. the actual ballots in the boxes and found that the PPP won the elections.  Not one observer group or political party in the opposition found the recount to be fraudulent, yet Granger keeps lying through teeth about anomalies and dead people voting.  

Today's Stabroek News editorial talked about the PPP's slim majority of 33 out of 65 and cautioned that it might slip in the future due to the increase in mixed and Amerindian votes.  They likewise cautioned that the PNC command of 40-42% support is under serious threat since the Afro population has declined to 28%.  Coalition government might be the only way to form a government in the not too distant future like it is in Suriname.  

PPPites are cognizant of this fact and are surely working on increasing its support nationwide across ethnic lines.  The PNC's hardline racist stand that threatens  Indo-Guyanese  will have a even more difficult capturing goverment that the well-established PPP which has a better record in governing, respecting the constitution, building the nation's economy, and improving the living standard.

The first paragraph is one sided. You haven't brought any substance to my arguments on the forum. 

Your input is laced with ethnic identity ,your views are like many who sees Indo Guyanese as superior in Guyana ,pure and simple..Not good for multiple ethnic countries.

Later I will prove there is no major cross voting ,will start with Region 4 ,I have the data.

Django
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Your arguments are not based on facts and therefore carry no weight.  

You are barefacedly pushing PNC agenda. Granger's son-in-law acknowledged that APNU/AFC lost the elections and there's not a shred of evidence to prove fraud. 

Take a walk my friend.  Your party lost and you should accept that.

Billy Ram Balgobin

Your arguments are not based on facts and therefore carry no weight.  

You are barefacedly pushing PNC agenda. Granger's son-in-law acknowledged that APNU/AFC lost the elections and there's not a shred of evidence to prove fraud. 

Take a walk my friend.  Your party lost and you should accept that.

There is no push for any party agenda ,I state facts. The recount shows Massive FRAUD in the 2020 Elections. Further stated many times no affiliation to any political party in Guyana.

Only kowtows to ethnic identity will not see the evidence of  FRAUD .

Django
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@Totaram posted:

The PPP is lucky that Granger did not misuse the power he had by virtue of that constitution.  Burnham and that constitution would have been a whole different matter.  

In fact Granger did everything to misuse the constitution to avoid using a nominee from the opposition for GECOM chairperson so he can set up his rigging machinery but the NCM cut up his runnings. Then he misused it to try to violate the consequences of the NCM. Then after he looses the legal proceedings regarding those two misuses he again misused it to delay the elections. The court again had to properly use the constitution to put him in compliance. Then after he lost the elections in March he again misused the constitution to delay the declaration for over 150 days. The declaration came because the courts again had to use the constitution to condemn his misuse of it. So the problem was never the constitution but rather Granger’s tendencies to misuse (violate) it. Granger was always the culprit, not the constitution.

FM
@Django posted:

It's not the legal battles it's the interpretation of the articles ,it's been twisted to suit the purpose of  of some politicians.

It's  not week and the President is excercising the powers given.

What powers?

FM

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