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Monday, 07 January 2013 22:22

SCORES of Guyanese have expressed concern over what they say is a highly offensive and racially charged comment made by Opposition Leader David Granger on social media. The comment has attracted criticisms from not only Guyanese of East Indian decent, but of African lineage that are strongly rejecting any appeal to politics or pandering to race by politicians to score cheap political points. 
 
Granger stated via the social media networking site Facebook,   in essence, that Indo-Guyanese were allegedly everyday literally responsible for killing, raping, maligning and murdering their fellow East Indian brothers and sisters. He also argued that those in power were failing to protect their own. 
 
“Readers of Stabroek News, Kaieteur News, Demerara Waves, Capitol News, and even Guyana Times will rapidly form one stark conclusion: it is not APNU or PNC political propaganda that every day a tragically and rapidly ballooning mass of Guyanese of Indian descent are being murdered, raped, mutilated, kidnapped, hijacked, pirated, trafficked, and extorted by other Guyanese of Indian descent – typically those sheltered by the very people in political power saying that ‘apaan jhat’ will protect”.  
 
Immediately after the comment was posted, scores of Guyanese took to their own Facebook pages expressing their dissatisfaction with the insensitive statements and the underlying rhetoric therein. 
 
Trinity Watson in her post stated that “it’s such a shame that the leader of the opposition would reduce to such a statement...what is he trying to incite here.....”
 
“What is he trying to do? Start another race war?”, Rahm Ramdhani quizzed while “Fenton Goorahoo stated “can you imagine the price one would have to pay from a political and so call[sic] leader viewpoint, with a statement of this nature in any other multicultured and democratic country....his head would be chewed off and asked to resign....”
 
Others have also expressed their concerns over the distasteful political blunder made by Granger, who said that  APNU was not a party formed to talk race or interested in race politics but merely focused on establishing a government of national unity. 
 
“If Mr Granger sincerely cares about the welfare of Indians in Guyana then he must apologise for the atrocities committed on Indians by the PNC regime of which he[is] part and also the deliberate targeting of Indians during the opposition street protests. Also the murder, rape and robbing of many thousands of Indian businessmen and women by opposition-inspired Afro-Guyanese criminals...Otherwise it's just empty words!!!!”, another Facebook user commented. 
 
The statement made by Granger is merely an excerpt from another politically insensitive piece penned and posted on his social media page. Already some politicians say that they are ready to ask the Opposition Leader to explain what is meant by the loaded and allegedly racist statement.

** USE File PHOTO of David Granger

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Originally Posted by Stormborn:

Granger is racist and the PPP chronicle editorial page was a mistake! what hypocrites!

If Granger is a racist then the AFC is also racist. Did you or the Afc ever tell Granger that he is out of line? No, because APNU and AFC like batty and poke. You get some nerve to come here and speak ills of Granger when you guys can't do without each other. That is real ***kery, rainstorm!

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FM

"Granger stated via the social media networking site Facebook,   in essence, that Indo-Guyanese were allegedly everyday literally responsible for killing, raping, maligning and murdering their fellow East Indian brothers and sisters. He also argued that those in power were failing to protect their own." 

 

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If Granger said that he is pretty close to being right. Of course the world "everyday" would have been inserted there by the boat Brahmin to deceive the people. I am glad to see Granger taking head on the PPP's racist propaganda "don't split the vote strategy."

FM



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Originally Posted by TK:



"Granger stated via the social media networking site Facebook,   in essence, that Indo-Guyanese were allegedly everyday literally responsible for killing, raping, maligning and murdering their fellow East Indian brothers and sisters. He also argued that those in power were failing to protect their own."





 

In essence means that he never said that, but that's what his enemies want you to believe he said. So he has been deliberately misquoted in order to stir up racial tension. In essance (sic) the PPP fabricated the whole incident. It is all lies.

 

Mr.T
Originally Posted by baseman:

Indians, watch your back.  Be ware of trojan horses, katahar back-stabbers and Judas.  They will break bread with you and poison your tea.  BEWARE.

Beware of Trojans:

FM
Originally Posted by TK:

"Granger stated via the social media networking site Facebook,   in essence, that Indo-Guyanese were allegedly everyday literally responsible for killing, raping, maligning and murdering their fellow East Indian brothers and sisters. He also argued that those in power were failing to protect their own." 

 

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If Granger said that he is pretty close to being right. Of course the world "everyday" would have been inserted there by the boat Brahmin to deceive the people. I am glad to see Granger taking head on the PPP's racist propaganda "don't split the vote strategy."

TK rushes to defend his racist big brother Granger. He does not want to offend Granger and his PNC bosses since he is eying up the junior deputy finance minister position. TK, I cannot blame you..... You are a politician after all. As Rev posted, politicians love milk and honey.

FM
Originally Posted by Cobra:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:

Granger is racist and the PPP chronicle editorial page was a mistake! what hypocrites!

If Granger is a racist then the AFC is also racist. Did you or the Afc ever tell Granger that he is out of line? No, because APNU and AFC like batty and poke. You get some nerve to come here and speak ills of Granger when you guys can't do without each other. That is real ***kery, rainstorm!

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I see thinking is not your forte so random slinging of mud is your only resort. The point is that daily the Indians leverage accusations that black men are brutes and prone to violence and see no wrong in the claim.There is no checks on what is being said. Its pervasive and casual acceptance  almost rises to the level of a cultural trait ie to Indians blacks are evil. The constant refrain is the PNC?...never

 

Yet when the reality that Indians dominate the drug trade, run a crooked government that even used a drug fiend as its agency of legal enforcement you are miffed if Granger concludes Indians are at the source of cruelty to themselves! As I said thinking is not your forte and the usual retreat of those being led by the nose through false ideologies is ...yes to violence....

 

FM
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Originally Posted by baseman:

Indians, watch your back.  Be ware of trojan horses, katahar back-stabbers and Judas.  They will break bread with you and poison your tea.  BEWARE.

The usual syndrome....deflect from your disease even though clearly ill  by insisting it is the calamity before you is of others

FM

I do not believe Granger is racist however , I have heard him make some pretty stupid remarks, which people can and have mis-interpreted. The politics in Guyana is race based, has been and still is so, lets not forget that making statements within that political framework leaves lots of room for such situations. I realize that many Guyanese are struggling with their own racism , including the generation born post Burnham and jagan era , and are trying their darnest to rid themselves of this demonic possession . I know they want to be fair and just but when a society is diseased by racism it takes generations to cure and lots of courage .

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by TK:

"Granger stated via the social media networking site Facebook,   in essence, that Indo-Guyanese were allegedly everyday literally responsible for killing, raping, maligning and murdering their fellow East Indian brothers and sisters. He also argued that those in power were failing to protect their own." 

 

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If Granger said that he is pretty close to being right. Of course the world "everyday" would have been inserted there by the boat Brahmin to deceive the people. I am glad to see Granger taking head on the PPP's racist propaganda "don't split the vote strategy."

TK rushes to defend his racist big brother Granger. He does not want to offend Granger and his PNC bosses since he is eying up the junior deputy finance minister position. TK, I cannot blame you..... You are a politician after all. As Rev posted, politicians love milk and honey.

 Dude, you should shut your damn mouth about who is racist or not. One does not have to go back far on this message board to see your naked and virulent expressions of racism in full bloom.

 

But that is besides the point; it is clear we have a racial problem and competing race groups t have been eternally in a power struggle. We are lucky we have not gone into out right race war as many states have experienced and one cannot say the mediating force is reason from either side. Our saving grace is actually our middle racial ground , our blended siblings. These, often ostracized people are our holy grail.

 

That being said, we need to address the problem of fairness and develop methodologies to address what the PPP conveniently claim does not exist, racial segmentation. Calling Granger a racist is tame for what will come if we avoid addressing this problem head on and constantly pretend we can continue in a "democracy" by one racial group simply because they are marginally superior in numbers. Worse, that race identified party is now claiming complete authority and it is a minority!

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by TK:

"Granger stated via the social media networking site Facebook,   in essence, that Indo-Guyanese were allegedly everyday literally responsible for killing, raping, maligning and murdering their fellow East Indian brothers and sisters. He also argued that those in power were failing to protect their own." 

 

============

 

If Granger said that he is pretty close to being right. Of course the world "everyday" would have been inserted there by the boat Brahmin to deceive the people. I am glad to see Granger taking head on the PPP's racist propaganda "don't split the vote strategy."

TK rushes to defend his racist big brother Granger. He does not want to offend Granger and his PNC bosses since he is eying up the junior deputy finance minister position. TK, I cannot blame you..... You are a politician after all. As Rev posted, politicians love milk and honey.

 

There is a difference between knowing and pretense. You pretend to know for the sole purpose of lying. I am not a politician, BTW. And my flow of milk is quite good without politics. 

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:

Indians, watch your back.  Be ware of trojan horses, katahar back-stabbers and Judas.  They will break bread with you and poison your tea.  BEWARE.

 

Many of these Shameless CRABDAAG, NEE NEEE NEE MACK  NEE MACK HARAM IS RIGHT HERE!!!!!!

 

Nehru
Originally Posted by yuji22:
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TK rushes to defend his racist big brother Granger.

 


Yuji:

 

Folks like Tarron Khemraj(TK), Farouk Samaroo(Joker), Sasenarine Singh, Warrior, etc, etc are what you call in Guyana N*GGER INDIANS---they would bend over backwards to appease and satisfy the Grangers, the Trotmans and the Nigel Huhes of Guyana.

 

Who vex, vex!

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
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TK rushes to defend his racist big brother Granger.

 


Yuji:

 

Folks like Tarron Khemraj(TK), Farouk Samaroo(Joker), Saasenarine Singh, Warrior, etc, etc are what you call in Guyana N*GGER INDIANS---they would bend over backwards to appease and satisfy the Grangers, the Trotmans and the Nigel Huhes of Guyana.

 

Who vex, vex!

 

Rev

Rev Bhai

 

You are correct. They will sell their souls to the devil for a lil job and some soup.

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
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TK rushes to defend his racist big brother Granger.

 


Yuji:

 

Folks like Tarron Khemraj(TK), Farouk Samaroo(Joker), Sasenarine Singh, Warrior, etc, etc are what you call in Guyana N*GGER INDIANS---they would bend over backwards to appease and satisfy the Grangers, the Trotmans and the Nigel Huhes of Guyana.

 

Who vex, vex!

 

Rev

What is a n i g g  e r indian? It did not take long for for what is latent in you to rise again to the fore. Being possessed of the thinking power of a gnat that is your universal approach.You do not make anyone "vex". You are what you are and you cannot help it.

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by yuji22:
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TK rushes to defend his racist big brother Granger.

 


Yuji:

 

Folks like Tarron Khemraj(TK), Farouk Samaroo(Joker), Sasenarine Singh, Warrior, etc, etc are what you call in Guyana N*GGER INDIANS---they would bend over backwards to appease and satisfy the Grangers, the Trotmans and the Nigel Huhes of Guyana.

 

Who vex, vex!

 

Rev

What is a n i g g  e r indian? It did not take long for for what is latent in you to rise again to the fore. Being possessed of the thinking power of a gnat that is your universal approach.You do not make anyone "vex". You are what you are and you cannot help it.

Let him talk...let him talk. I hope they preserve this thread. 

FM
I don't see the statement as being racist, but granger is missing the mark that this government is an Indian government, indians only vote for them as they fear the alternative. I would expect granger to now to tackle the race issue head on. The PPP will not .
FM
Originally Posted by Brutus:
I don't see the statement as being racist, but granger is missing the mark that this government is an Indian government, indians only vote for them as they fear the alternative. I would expect granger to now to tackle the race issue head on. The PPP will not .

 

The PNC has always failed to see the strategic nature of the fears. They allowed themselves to get sucked into it. The fear is the only asset of the PPP. 

FM
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
What is a n i g g  e r indian?


Stormy:

 

It looks like you have a reading comprehension problem!

 

Read carefully:

 

N*GGER INDIANS are Guyanese East Indians who are deeply ashamed of their culture and heritage---they are jealous and envious of successful East Indians--- they take pride in berating, castigating and hatefully criticizing East Indians---and most would bend over backwards to appease and satisfy the Grangers, the Trotmans and the Hughes of Guyana.

 

Who vex, vex!

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
What is a n i g g  e r indian?


Stormy:

 

It looks like you have a reading comprehension problem!

 

Read carefully:

 

N*GGER INDIANS are Guyanese East Indians who are deeply ashamed of their culture and heritage---they are jealous and envious of successful East Indians--- they take pride in berating, castigating and hatefully criticizing East Indians---and most would bend over backwards to appease and satisfy the Grangers, the Trotmans and the Hughes of Guyana.

 

Who vex, vex!

 

Rev

 

That "definition" does't help to erase the deviousness of your intent. 

FM
Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
What is a n i g g  e r indian?


Stormy:

 

It looks like you have a reading comprehension problem!

 

Read carefully:

 

N*GGER INDIANS are Guyanese East Indians who are deeply ashamed of their culture and heritage---they are jealous and envious of successful East Indians--- they take pride in berating, castigating and hatefully criticizing East Indians---and most would bend over backwards to appease and satisfy the Grangers, the Trotmans and the Hughes of Guyana.

 

Who vex, vex!

 

Rev

Maybe I should have placed exclamation points after the sentence to illustrate it is rhetorical.

 

I do not think anyone is envious and jealous of crooks that is Representative of this administration. At least not anyone with a moral core. These people are not representative of anything good in any culture.

 

Further, Indians who are of the thinking kind know that as former Marxists culture and its furtherance is farthest form their praxis. These are users by trade and tradition. They want their vanguard party because they see the state as a prize, a leech source.

FM
Rev .. Stand down - I am a culturally aware Indian and my thoughts and actions are dictated by a strong conviction that discrimination based on race is evil whether its done by our own or by others. I understand the fear that you have...of going back to the Burnham days, this is where the grangers et al could atone and assure. As for the PPP . This environment suits their needs but the opposition can break the back of the ethnic problem by bringing the plight of blacks to the fore and behaving in a manner that would convince indians that the Burnham era is never going to return.
FM

Burnham dead nearly half a century ago and several presidents have been at the head of government since then. So going back to the Burnham days is like wishing you were a kid in kindergarted again. Only dumb jackasses would dream up such fantasies.

Mr.T

Nah...for Revvy personally its not fear of PNC. Because anyone who looks at the PNC rationally will see a Burnham PNC and a Hoyte PNC. For Revvy its economic. To protect the pigs' trough they must stir up racial fears among Indos. Anyone, especially Indos, who threatens the pig's food is demonized. This has been happening for 20 years. 

FM
Didn't Granger pay a glowing tribute to Forbes recently on his death anniversary? Whatever context it was made in, it either wasn't smart politics or he still concurs with Forbes methods.. It is silly to dismiss that important part of our history that has somewhat shaped our current predicament.
FM

One never speak bad of the dead. A tribute is about mentioning the good points, and avoiding the bad ones. Either way Jagdeo never spoke anywhere as well about Jagan. What does that tell us?

Mr.T
Oh for sure people who benefit from the administration will gnash their teeth when someone tries to take it away. How do we break this up and assure some semblance of fair distribution of wealth among the competing groups?
FM
Originally Posted by Brutus:
Rev .. Stand down - I am a culturally aware Indian and my thoughts and actions are dictated by a strong conviction that discrimination based on race is evil whether its done by our own or by others. I understand the fear that you have...of going back to the Burnham days, this is where the grangers et al could atone and assure. As for the PPP . This environment suits their needs but the opposition can break the back of the ethnic problem by bringing the plight of blacks to the fore and behaving in a manner that would convince indians that the Burnham era is never going to return.

 I do not think Indians need to be cuddled and cajoled. I also do not think black people need to be affirmed in the society. It is a moral question whether one would want this present odious political ethos to continue where one or the other is locked out by our embrace of race based politics.

FM
Originally Posted by Brutus:
Rev .. I understand the fear that you have...of going back to the Burnham days...


Listen Brutus!

 

The world has changed--and Guyana has changed--the days of rigged elections are over---the Burnham days will never return.

 

51% OF GUYANESE VOTED FOR A PARTY OTHER THAN THE PPP IN THE LAST ELECTION. BUT THE BURNHAM CONSTITUTION GIFTED THE PRESIDENCY TO THE PPP.

 

Now, if in the next election the PNC and AFC were to form a coalition, and if that coalition wins the election---that's OK with the Rev---Granger and company will finally get to feast on the milk and honey.

 

IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MILK AND HONEY BRUTUS!

 

Lemme make it crystal clear---if the Guyanese people want a Granger to be president---and if a Granger led coalition wins the majority of votes---then so be it---that's cool with the Rev--let Granger and company feast on the milk and honey.

 

Rev

 

 

FM

Granger is not the only choice for a new president.

 

What is really taking place here is that the PPP stooges are trying to divert attention from the real opposition who can take over the running of the government. Namely the AFC. This whole Granger/Burnham spin is solely designed to avoid the mention of those three feared letters:

A

F

C

Mr.T
Remember too much milk and honey gives you diabetes. Part of growing older .. You realize aggrandizement is not one of the routes to happiness. The quest for fairness and justice however, never wanes.
FM
Originally Posted by Mr.T:

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What is really taking place here is that the PPP stooges are trying to divert attention from the real opposition who can take over the running of the government. Namely the AFC.

 

Mr. T:

 

The AFC will always be perceived as the 3rd party in Guyana---the 10% party---it's a party comprised of rejects, bellyachers, sourpusses, political losers and political failures.

 

Right now Ramjattan and the AFC are doing a good job braying loudly in parliament and pi$$ing off the Guyanese people for impeding progress in the country.

 

BUT NO WAY THE AFC WILL LEAD GUYANA BEFORE THE PNC!

 

Rev

FM
Originally Posted by Mr.T:

Granger is not the only choice for a new president.

 

What is really taking place here is that the PPP stooges are trying to divert attention from the real opposition who can take over the running of the government. Namely the AFC. This whole Granger/Burnham spin is solely designed to avoid the mention of those three feared letters:

A

F

C

Mr T look how these Poom Poom Parasites like Rev Al  losing it....

because AFC is the enemy of corruption...

 

AFC is all they can focus on.....

they dont want to face the law for thiefing.....

They feel PNC will give them a get out of Jail Pass......

but they know......

AFC= Jail Time for nuff a dem who thiefing the Milk and Honey as Rev Al say.

 

 

FM
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Originally Posted by Rev Al:
Originally Posted by Stormborn:
What is a n i g g  e r indian?


Stormy:

 

It looks like you have a reading comprehension problem!

 

Read carefully:

 

N*GGER INDIANS are Guyanese East Indians who are deeply ashamed of their culture and heritage---they are jealous and envious of successful East Indians--- they take pride in berating, castigating and hatefully criticizing East Indians---and most would bend over backwards to appease and satisfy the Grangers, the Trotmans and the Hughes of Guyana.

 

Who vex, vex!

 

Rev

Rant Rev... you suh smaht bai. You got all kindsa fancy names for everybody.

A

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