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Govt pilloried over ethnic, gender imbalance

Outrage over composition of State Boards

The David Granger-led Administration has been trenchantly criticised for alleged ethnic and gender imbalance in the composition of the recently announced State Boards. The A Partnership for National Unity/Alliance For Change (APNU/AFC) Administration has also been criticised for failing to consult adequately with the main Opposition People’s Progressive Party/Civic (PPP/C), breaching an agreement brokered by the late Opposition Leader Desmond Hoyte and then President Bharrat Jagdeo back in 2003.

Joseph Harmon

Joseph Harmon

Over the past few days, views have been expressed on the paltry number of women selected on these boards, as well as those appointed to chair them. Additionally, persons have expressed dismay at the ethic imbalance reflected in the new appointees, stating that only a meagre number of Indo-Guyanese were included.  On Wednesday, the Guyana Human Rights Association (GHRA) flayed the APNU/AFC Administration’s actions, deeming it an affront to women, referring to the unbalanced representation of females on the State Boards. “All Government functionaries responsible should feel ashamed over today’s announcement that only three (9.4 per cent) of the new Chairs of the 32 State Boards in the Finance Sector are females,” the organisation said in a release. According to the GHRA, while the full membership of only 20 out of the 32 boards were disclosed so far, only 18 per cent are females, that is, 22 persons out of a possible 125 as it relates to Boards in the Finance Sector with only one woman named a member on three boards and another woman on two boards.

Turning to the agriculture sector, the GHRA pointed out that out of the 13 new members gazetted on the Guyana Rice Development Board, only one female is named. The organisation also underscored the fact the only three females were named as chairs of the various revamped State Boards. “That the appointments could be released without any attempt to explain or excuse this affront to women, suggests that gender parity had not been a consideration… Whether this insult to women is a one-off thoughtless act or more institutionally determined… is a matter for continuous monitoring,” the GHRA remarked.

Also commenting on the issue of gender imbalance, Chairperson of the Guyana’s Women and Gender Equality Commission (WGEC) Indra Chandarpal, posited that women should not only be included in politics but in all decision-making aspect of society. She noted that there should be a one-third representation of females on all the boards.  Furthermore, Chandarpal urged all sectors to channel their thinking in this direction. “I want the Private Sector, trade unions and other parties that have to appoint additional members to these boards, to consider the fact that the Constitution Reform Process provides for women’s involvement (in all sectors),” the WGEC head stated.

Contacted on Thursday for a comment on these concerns raised, Minister of Social Cohesion Amna Ally, said she is not aware of these issues and has not had a chance to examine the list of the gazetted members, which Cabinet, of which she is a member, had approved. “I don’t know… I can’t really comment because I didn’t go through (the list) with a fine tooth comb,” Ally, who is Government’s point person on racial harmony told this newspaper.

Racial discrimination Meanwhile, on the issue of ethnic imbalance, Businessman and Civil Society Activist Clairmont Lye who in 2007 had returned his National Award owing to what he declared then was “the deterioration of democracy in Guyana” in a letter in another section of the media stated that he was expecting persons to be selected based “purely” on their qualifications and not ethnicity, however he was disappointed. Lye, a former Cacique Crown of Honour awardee and one of the founders of the Electoral Assistance Bureau said: “I was full of expectation that this new Government would have been the first to establish this new political culture. However, I couldn’t help noticing that 80 per cent of the recently announced 35 chairmanship positions to State Boards have been filled by non-Indo-Guyanese,” he stated.

According to Lye, these State Board appointments were preceded by the recent list of national awardees, which causes one to revisit the promise of “inclusivity and promotion of racial unity”. He pointed out that while the Government may not have deliberately set out on such a divisive course, the situation only serves to lend credence to the PPP/C’s pre-election warning of race politics by APNU/AFC.  “Our Government ought to realise that in politics, perception is reality. And whether supporters or not, we need to keep them mindful of that,” he noted.

In addition, another letter writer, Gordon Forte, outlined that of the 35 persons announced as chairs of state-appointed boards, only seven have “Indian-sounding” names. “I find it intensely painful that in my country ? indeed in my world ? qualifications of personal worth and potential contribution have to include racial division, and that responsible people would actually make a count like that,” he declared.

Forte stated that the country’s recent history forces Guyanese to use concepts like inclusiveness and racial unity. He explained “Perceived discrimination on grounds of race seems more offensive to Guyanese than that on grounds of gender, ability or performance record. So I am dragged into a nasty arena, to say to the Cabinet (though we know they’re not listening), “Ow, man, look bad… look so bad…” Moreover, the man said that while many rational arguments can be put forward for the choices made, even idealists have to face up to the degrading nature of the local political environment. He reminded of the power of “filthy racialism” and the long road Guyanese have taken towards its elimination.

Former President and Executive Member of the PPP Donald Ramotar, on Wednesday said that there was no consultation between the present Administration and his Party as it relates to the composition of the various recently announced State Boards. Ramotar, in a telephone interview with Guyana Times acknowledged that the Government has said that it would offer a few seats on specific boards to the PPP. However, the Opposition party is far from satisfied with such actions by the APNU/AFC Government. “When I was the President, we had offered them seats on more Boards in comparison to what they are offering us. There were no consultations this time about the seats being offered to us. We had given them a lot of membership and it is not being reciprocated,” stated Ramotar.

He said that because of the lack of consultation and also the limit to the Boards in which the PPP/C was being given membership, there would be need for talks with the Government. According to Ramotar, he expects this issue to be discussed soon, and it is unclear as to whether the PPP/C will accept the seats that are presently offered to them before the discussions with the Administration take place.

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Quote "Additionally, persons have expressed dismay at the ethic imbalance reflected in the new appointees, stating that only a meagre number of Indo-Guyanese were included."unquote

FM

 Amna Ally“I don’t know… I can’t really comment because I didn’t go through (the list) with a fine tooth comb,” Ally, who is Government’s point person on racial harmony told this newspaper.

FM
Originally Posted by asj:

Seems like there is a serious shortage of Indo Guyanese in Guyana, or APNU/AFC can be seen as racially inclined.

Did you have anything to say when only two state corporations/commissions were headed by blacks.

 

The PPP are the last people to complain about racism.  Only those who pointed out racist practices of the PPP can make comments on this now.

 

When asked why the dearth of blacks in leadership positions during the Jagdeo/Ramotar era, the response was "maybe there aren't any qualified blacks".

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by asj:

Seems like there is a serious shortage of Indo Guyanese in Guyana, or APNU/AFC can be seen as racially inclined.

Did you have anything to say when only two state corporations/commissions were headed by blacks.

 

The PPP are the last people to complain about racism.  Only those who pointed out racist practices of the PPP can make comments on this now.

 

When asked why the dearth of blacks in leadership positions during the Jagdeo/Ramotar era, the response was "maybe there aren't any qualified blacks".

I followed your respond and cannot say that I agree with you for the simple reason, we voted for change, and had hoped that all this nonsense based on race would now have been a thing of the past.......but with APNU/AFC, it seems to be an ongoing feature. They seemed to continued where the PNC left off.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by asj:

Seems like there is a serious shortage of Indo Guyanese in Guyana, or APNU/AFC can be seen as racially inclined.

Did you have anything to say when only two state corporations/commissions were headed by blacks.

 

The PPP are the last people to complain about racism.  Only those who pointed out racist practices of the PPP can make comments on this now.

 

When asked why the dearth of blacks in leadership positions during the Jagdeo/Ramotar era, the response was "maybe there aren't any qualified blacks".

Caribny, why make excuses based on the PPP actions.  The people voted for a change NOT and exchange.  Granger will be a one-timer or possibly a half-timer if he doesn't look out.  Looks like he is being controlled by Dick Cheney Harmon.

FM
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Originally Posted by asj:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by asj:

Seems like there is a serious shortage of Indo Guyanese in Guyana, or APNU/AFC can be seen as racially inclined.

Did you have anything to say when only two state corporations/commissions were headed by blacks.

 

The PPP are the last people to complain about racism.  Only those who pointed out racist practices of the PPP can make comments on this now.

 

When asked why the dearth of blacks in leadership positions during the Jagdeo/Ramotar era, the response was "maybe there aren't any qualified blacks".

I followed your respond and cannot say that I agree with you for the simple reason, we voted for change, and had hoped that all this nonsense based on race would now have been a thing of the past.......but with APNU/AFC, it seems to be an ongoing feature. They seemed to continued where the PNC left off.

Unless you criticized the PPPs racist practices I really don't care what you bleat on this topic.  This begins to sound like the show is on the other foot, so suddenly it concerns you.

 

Those who criticized the PPP for their racism, people like Freddie Kissoon, can comment if APNU/AFC if similarly racially exclusionary.  Kissoon was attacked by most Indians and called self hating.  So he is entitled to talk because he cannot be accused of being a hypocrite.

 

Really don't think that too many Indians can talk on this, as they either attacked blacks who pointed out PPP racism against Afro Guyanese, or remained silent.

 

Those who lambasted people like me about PPP racism, calling me a racist, and claiming that all I wanted was to see dead Indians (and yes I got many of those comments) are hypocrites if they suddenly become aware of racism, when their party lost.

 

When Africans like Nigel Hughes, David Hinds and others lambasted PPP racism, they were called racists.  Did you  come to their defense?  Some how I don't recall that....and by the way, silence means consent, so unless you confronted those who attack these men, then you are equally hypocritical if suddenly ethnic balance matters to you.

FM

Carib, if the PPP/C were the only organization referring to this non-sense then I would have list it as Politically Motivated, but the On Wednesday, the Guyana Human Rights Association (GHRA) flayed the APNU/AFC Administration’s actions, deeming it an affront to women, referring to the unbalanced representation of females on the State Boards. “All Government functionaries responsible should feel ashamed over today’s announcement that only three (9.4 per cent) of the new Chairs of the 32 State Boards in the Finance Sector are females,”

 

This is only gender based, soon all and sundry will be looking at this as ethnicallty based.

FM
Originally Posted by asj:

Carib, if the PPP/C were the only organization referring to this non-sense .

How many of those groups spoke specifically to the ethnic exclusion that was happening to Afro Guyanese.  Oh yes, every one ran for cover, leaving the few like Kissoon, Hinds, Hughes, Eric Phillips, and a few others. 

 

In fact these folks can talk about death threats which they received, and at least one Afro Guyanese was wiped out by Jagdeo's goons.

 

BTW how many women were given leadership roles under the PPP?

 

Oh yes, now suddenly people can talk, as they think that they need not fear Jagdeo's goons.

FM
Originally Posted by VVP:
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Caribny, why make excuses based on the PPP actions.  The people voted for a change NOT and exchange.  Granger will be a one-timer or possibly a half-timer if he doesn't look out.  Looks like he is being controlled by Dick Cheney Harmon.

Did you have anything to say about the PPP when it excluded blacks from leadership, with only 2 of the state controlled entities headed by Africans.

 

Most likely you said NOTHING, except to me when I pointed this out, and then you called me a racist.

 

Shoe on the other foot and now this concerns you.

 

Those who spoke out against PPP racism can speak to this topic.  Those who weren't bothered by PPP racism have nothing to say. 

 

Why was it OK for the PPP to exclude Africans?

FM
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I think (Caribj) that your argument is flawed, what you are saying is that if the PPP/C were doing it, then the APNU/AFC doing the samething now then and nothing wrong with that.

 

It was wrong  then as it is wrong now, and please do not think that I was quiet about the PPP/C wrong doings........as there is a thread that goes by the name "If elections were held today, the PPP/C would lose" a couple of hundreds of pages.

 

I do not want to label you as a liar, but you are heading that way.

FM
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Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by VVP:
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Caribny, why make excuses based on the PPP actions.  The people voted for a change NOT and exchange.  Granger will be a one-timer or possibly a half-timer if he doesn't look out.  Looks like he is being controlled by Dick Cheney Harmon.

Did you have anything to say about the PPP when it excluded blacks from leadership, with only 2 of the state controlled entities headed by Africans.

 

Most likely you said NOTHING, except to me when I pointed this out, and then you called me a racist.

 

Shoe on the other foot and now this concerns you.

 

Those who spoke out against PPP racism can speak to this topic.  Those who weren't bothered by PPP racism have nothing to say. 

 

Why was it OK for the PPP to exclude Africans?

It was NOT okay for the PPP to exclude Africans.  AND IT IS NOT OKAY for the APNU-AFC to exclude Indians.  This is NOT what the people voted for.  They do not want an exchange, but that is what you seem to be arguing for.  And yes, I did speak up for the PPP to be removed because of its corrupt practice in a letter to SN just before the coalition was formed.  What else do you want?

FM
Originally Posted by asj:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by asj:

Seems like there is a serious shortage of Indo Guyanese in Guyana, or APNU/AFC can be seen as racially inclined.

Did you have anything to say when only two state corporations/commissions were headed by blacks.

 

The PPP are the last people to complain about racism.  Only those who pointed out racist practices of the PPP can make comments on this now.

 

When asked why the dearth of blacks in leadership positions during the Jagdeo/Ramotar era, the response was "maybe there aren't any qualified blacks".

I followed your respond and cannot say that I agree with you for the simple reason, we voted for change, and had hoped that all this nonsense based on race would now have been a thing of the past.......but with APNU/AFC, it seems to be an ongoing feature. They seemed to continued where the PNC left off.

Alyuh missed the "hood-wink".

FM
Originally Posted by VVP:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by VVP:
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Caribny, why make excuses based on the PPP actions.  The people voted for a change NOT and exchange.  Granger will be a one-timer or possibly a half-timer if he doesn't look out.  Looks like he is being controlled by Dick Cheney Harmon.

Did you have anything to say about the PPP when it excluded blacks from leadership, with only 2 of the state controlled entities headed by Africans.

 

Most likely you said NOTHING, except to me when I pointed this out, and then you called me a racist.

 

Shoe on the other foot and now this concerns you.

 

Those who spoke out against PPP racism can speak to this topic.  Those who weren't bothered by PPP racism have nothing to say. 

 

Why was it OK for the PPP to exclude Africans?

It was NOT okay for the PPP to exclude Africans.  AND IT IS NOT OKAY for the APNU-AFC to exclude Indians.  This is NOT what the people voted for.  They do not want an exchange, but that is what you seem to be arguing for.  And yes, I did speak up for the PPP to be removed because of its corrupt practice in a letter to SN just before the coalition was formed.  What else do you want?

Caribj is contented seeing Indians at "the back of the bus".

FM

Is the priority at this stage ethnic and gender balance, or the best person for the job? We only have to recollect the incompetence of the likes of Priya and many others who gave a bad name to their race and gender.

Mr.T
Originally Posted by Mr.T:

Is the priority at this stage ethnic and gender balance, or the best person for the job? We only have to recollect the incompetence of the likes of Priya and many others who gave a bad name to their race and gender.

I do not believe in affirmative action or quota system.  You have to be qualified for the position, but they way it seems right now is like race is the major qualifier.  Not a word from Moses and Ramjattan...looks like dem bais like the powa so they don't care anymore.

FM
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Originally Posted by asj:

I think (Caribj) that your argument is flawed, what you are saying is that if the PPP/C were doing it, then the APNU/AFC doing the samething now then and nothing wrong with that.

 

It was wrong  then ..

So when I said that it was wrong then, and was called an Indian killer, did you agree with me?  No you either said nothing, or you joined the pack who celebrated the exclusion of Africans.

 

Those who had NOTHING to say about PPP racism ought to have NOTHING to say about APNU racism!

 

Freddie Kissoon and the FEW Indians like him, who spoke out against PPP racism, can speak as much as they wish about any Indian exclusion which might exist today.

 

Those who said NOTHING when Africans were excluded should have NOTHING to say now.  If that includes YOU, then what can I say.

If the exclusion of Africans was fine public policy, then why should they object when the shoe is on the other foot and Indians are excluded?

FM
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