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FM
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The PPP perform better in opposition than they have performed in leading the country. This may not be the exact wording, but it sends the same message. What has changed two years into the PNC/AFC led government, now that many are rooting for the PPP to return to power, despite the uncertainties and hurdles the PPP is facing from the coalition government?

For educational purpose only.

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Gilbakka has little conviction, he dances to the tune of GNI fiddler on the palace roof of lately, you make a guess.

I had some wars with him back in the day when all he wanted was to see BJ's back and the end of the PPP rule.  I had varying views on BJ but never wanted to see the PPP go and the PNC take over again.  What is happening today, was what I predicted even when I was with the AFC.

Gilly thinks he brings some sort of grey eminence but if you track him over time, he lacked conviction and simply hated BJ!  He is ashamed of what he did to the party and wrings his hands at fate of much of the constituency, mainly the sugar workers!

There is an old saying, "the foolish man does in the end what the wise man did at the beginning".  Guess who is the fool and who is wise?

Baseman
Baseman posted:

Gilbakka has little conviction, he dances to the tune of GNI fiddler on the palace roof of lately, you make a guess.

I had some wars with him back in the day when all he wanted was to see BJ's back and the end of the PPP rule.  I had varying views on BJ but never wanted to see the PPP go and the PNC take over again.  What is happening today, was what I predicted even when I was with the AFC.

Gilly thinks he brings some sort of grey eminence but if you track him over time, he lacked conviction and simply hated BJ!  He is ashamed of what he did to the party and wrings his hands at fate of much of the constituency, mainly the sugar workers!

There is an old saying, "the foolish man does in the end what the wise man did at the beginning".  Guess who is the fool and who is wise?

Man, you behaving like a walking contradiction.

FACT: Up to December 2011, Gilbakka [posting as Bookman] fully supported and defended Jagdeo/PPP right here in GNI Political.

FACT: For the 2015 elections, Gilbakka supported APNU+AFC innocently believing their false and deceitful promises. But, shortly after elections, Gilbakka began to criticize the coalition on various issues, starting with the 50% ministerial pay hike. Last year, following Granger's arbitrary appointment of Patterson to head GECOM, Gilbakka openly broke with them and returned to the PPP.

FACT: Django was and still is supporting APNU+AFC and is against Jagdeo's PPP.

So, man, why you single out Gilbakka to pick on? Is it because blood is thicker than muddy water?

And, man, what have you done for the PPP lately? Local government election will be held in 11 months. Gilbakka has pledged to campaign pro bono for the PPP by urging disgruntled and former APNU+AFC supporters to VOTE PPP.

FM
Gilbakka posted:
Baseman posted:

Gilbakka has little conviction, he dances to the tune of GNI fiddler on the palace roof of lately, you make a guess.

I had some wars with him back in the day when all he wanted was to see BJ's back and the end of the PPP rule.  I had varying views on BJ but never wanted to see the PPP go and the PNC take over again.  What is happening today, was what I predicted even when I was with the AFC.

Gilly thinks he brings some sort of grey eminence but if you track him over time, he lacked conviction and simply hated BJ!  He is ashamed of what he did to the party and wrings his hands at fate of much of the constituency, mainly the sugar workers!

There is an old saying, "the foolish man does in the end what the wise man did at the beginning".  Guess who is the fool and who is wise?

Man, you behaving like a walking contradiction.

FACT: Up to December 2011, Gilbakka [posting as Bookman] fully supported and defended Jagdeo/PPP right here in GNI Political.

FACT: For the 2015 elections, Gilbakka supported APNU+AFC innocently believing their false and deceitful promises. But, shortly after elections, Gilbakka began to criticize the coalition on various issues, starting with the 50% ministerial pay hike. Last year, following Granger's arbitrary appointment of Patterson to head GECOM, Gilbakka openly broke with them and returned to the PPP.

FACT: Django was and still is supporting APNU+AFC and is against Jagdeo's PPP.

So, man, why you single out Gilbakka to pick on? Is it because blood is thicker than muddy water?

And, man, what have you done for the PPP lately? Local government election will be held in 11 months. Gilbakka has pledged to campaign pro bono for the PPP by urging disgruntled and former APNU+AFC supporters to VOTE PPP.

Hey man, I ain’t single you out, talk to tha PRINCE man about that gripe.  I-man just comment on da-man thread on da-subject-matter of his thread!

I am no contradiction.  I was always for the PPP but joined up with the AFC for one year.  In the AFC I said im not here to help the PNC rise to power.  I wanted the AFC and if not, then the PPP could stay there.   I did say if we handcuffed them into minority status, let’s work with them on their agenda, but on our terms!  Let’s get some of our “people” agenda items done and let the people know t’was us!

Thats a far cry from your dump Jagdeo at all cost position!  Screw everyone else!

Baseman
 

FACT: Django was and still is supporting APNU+AFC and is against Jagdeo's PPP.

I am not Django, but I am sure he will disagree with you. He said he's not a loyalist to no one except to the Yankee dollar. 

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Well, at lease he has his conviction. Django and me agree and disagree, but we know where we stand.   

Baseman
Baseman posted:

Hey man, I ain’t single you out, talk to tha PRINCE man about that gripe.  I-man just comment on da-man thread on da-subject-matter of his thread!

I am no contradiction.  I was always for the PPP but joined up with the AFC for one year.  In the AFC I said im not here to help the PNC rise to power.  I wanted the AFC and if not, then the PPP could stay there.   I did say if we handcuffed them into minority status, let’s work with them on their agenda, but on our terms!  Let’s get some of our “people” agenda items done and let the people know t’was us!

Thats a far cry from your dump Jagdeo at all cost position!  Screw everyone else!

I notice you also say that Django and you agree to disagree. If you really mean that you haven't singled Gilbakka out to pick on, I propose that you and I agree to disagree too. I stand with the PPP. 

FM
Gilbakka posted:
Baseman posted:

Hey man, I ain’t single you out, talk to tha PRINCE man about that gripe.  I-man just comment on da-man thread on da-subject-matter of his thread!

I am no contradiction.  I was always for the PPP but joined up with the AFC for one year.  In the AFC I said im not here to help the PNC rise to power.  I wanted the AFC and if not, then the PPP could stay there.   I did say if we handcuffed them into minority status, let’s work with them on their agenda, but on our terms!  Let’s get some of our “people” agenda items done and let the people know t’was us!

Thats a far cry from your dump Jagdeo at all cost position!  Screw everyone else!

I notice you also say that Django and you agree to disagree. If you really mean that you haven't singled Gilbakka out to pick on, I propose that you and I agree to disagree too. I stand with the PPP. 

Why not take a neutral stance? Why stand with the PPP?  Nothing has changed in their approach, they will just go back to being who they were when you decided to drop your support.  I think you are compromising your ethics by declaring your support for the ppp. 

FM
Drugb posted:
Gilbakka posted:
Baseman posted:

Hey man, I ain’t single you out, talk to tha PRINCE man about that gripe.  I-man just comment on da-man thread on da-subject-matter of his thread!

I am no contradiction.  I was always for the PPP but joined up with the AFC for one year.  In the AFC I said im not here to help the PNC rise to power.  I wanted the AFC and if not, then the PPP could stay there.   I did say if we handcuffed them into minority status, let’s work with them on their agenda, but on our terms!  Let’s get some of our “people” agenda items done and let the people know t’was us!

Thats a far cry from your dump Jagdeo at all cost position!  Screw everyone else!

I notice you also say that Django and you agree to disagree. If you really mean that you haven't singled Gilbakka out to pick on, I propose that you and I agree to disagree too. I stand with the PPP. 

Why not take a neutral stance? Why stand with the PPP?  

If I take a neutral stance, you will be the first to say that I like black baigan, like what yuh say bout Django.

I stand with Jagan's party.

FM
cain posted:

Oh rass Druggie this is one of those moments where I say, I fully agree with all you have said there. 

Hey Baseman, you recently denied this but I somehow feel there was some mention here that you jumped or planned on jumping off of Trump"s bandwagon a while back..true or not?

Only believe what baseman says about baseman, not what anyone else believes they believe about baseman!  Baseman is s deep thinker and a complex creature!  

Baseman is a Trump supporter but it does not mean I support everything he does or says!   I keep the bigger picture in context!

Baseman
Drugb posted:
Gilbakka posted:
Baseman posted:

Hey man, I ain’t single you out, talk to tha PRINCE man about that gripe.  I-man just comment on da-man thread on da-subject-matter of his thread!

I am no contradiction.  I was always for the PPP but joined up with the AFC for one year.  In the AFC I said im not here to help the PNC rise to power.  I wanted the AFC and if not, then the PPP could stay there.   I did say if we handcuffed them into minority status, let’s work with them on their agenda, but on our terms!  Let’s get some of our “people” agenda items done and let the people know t’was us!

Thats a far cry from your dump Jagdeo at all cost position!  Screw everyone else!

I notice you also say that Django and you agree to disagree. If you really mean that you haven't singled Gilbakka out to pick on, I propose that you and I agree to disagree too. I stand with the PPP. 

Why not take a neutral stance? Why stand with the PPP?  Nothing has changed in their approach, they will just go back to being who they were when you decided to drop your support.  I think you are compromising your ethics by declaring your support for the ppp. 

Drugb,

bhai i could not ignore this post.

Kudos to you.

Django

"FACT: Up to December 2011, Gilbakka [posting as Bookman] fully supported and defended Jagdeo/PPP right here in GNI Political."

"FACT: For the 2015 elections, Gilbakka supported APNU+AFC innocently believing their false and deceitful promises. But, shortly after elections, Gilbakka began to criticize the coalition on various issues, starting with the 50% ministerial pay hike. Last year, following Granger's arbitrary appointment of Patterson to head GECOM, Gilbakka openly broke with them and returned to the PPP."

"FACT: Django was and still is supporting APNU+AFC and is against Jagdeo's PPP."

So, man, why you single out Gilbakka to pick on? Is it because blood is thicker than muddy water?

All you leave my Buddy Gil alone. Please.

FM

Can anyone say what Jagdeo have realized or learn from the defeats PPP suffered, and what, if any, the PPP leadership can introduce to attract voters, including implementations that can improve the party's image in the future? I stress greatly that the biggest mistake was to let the PNC take control once and forever hold your peace. I am not going to step on PPP toes for the fiasco in parliament. Even the best learn from their mistakes. Right now more than ever before, everyone is concerned with what the PNC have up their sleeves to bully the PPP from regaining power. I read an article entitled "Economic Hitman" which was aired in Guyana, that made me believe that "Big Brother" still controls Guyana. I rest my case on this thought. 

FM
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Gilbakka posted:

If I take a neutral stance, you will be the first to say that I like black baigan, like what yuh say bout Django.

I stand with Jagan's party.

Yes you partake in black bigan along with the slop can crew, but one time bigan don't make you an addict. However my question to you is, what has changed with the PPP that would cause you to support them again?  Or are you just jumping the fence in shame and running back to the familiar?

FM

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