GECOM’s house-to-house registration decision invalid; Granger’s “bloated” voters’ list claim “not true”- ANUG

 

A New and United Guyana (ANUG) political party at the weekend said a decision by the Guyana Elections Commission (GECOM) to conduct house-to-house registration was  invalid because the Caribbean Court of Justice (CCJ) found that the appointment of the Chairman of that seven-member body was unconstitutional.

According to that five-month old political party, the governing A Partnership for National Unity+Alliance For Change (APNU) coalition has been misleading Guyanese by claiming that the seven-member body had agreed to conduct house-to-house registration. With the three pro-opposition elections commissioners against house-to-house registration, ANUG said Retired Justice James Patterson, whose appointment was struck down by the CCJ, used his casting vote with the three pro-government elections commissioners to decide that house-to-house registration must be conducted before the next general elections.

“The resulting tie was broken by the casting vote of Justice James Patterson, the Chairman unilaterally appointed by the President. But since that appointment was done in violation of the Constitution the entire process is vitiated. In any event, a casting vote by Patterson will not inspire the confidence of at least half of the population,” ANUG said.

Publicly recommending a consequential order  to the CCJ when it meets on Monday, that political party wants the CCJ to instruct President Granger to pick one of Opposition Leader Bharrat Jagdeo’s 18 nominees for the post of GECOM Chairman and avoid further delay in holding general elections. ” The result will be a Chairman in whom Guyanese may repose their confidence and trust, two conditions which are sadly lacking in our vicious political arena. Anything else will simply protract Guyana’s unhappy difficulties created at the hands of the two parties,” the party said.

The three pro-government elections commissioners are Vincent Alexander, Charles Corbin and Desmond Trotman, while the three People’s Progressive Party Civic (PPPC)-backed counterparts are Sase Gunraj, Bibi Shadick and Robeson Benn.

“bloated and defective” list

ANUG also dismissed the David Granger-led coalition’s claim that the voters’ list was bloated with about 200,000 defective names and that as much as 10,000 names of youths would be disenfranchised because their names are not on the voters’ list. “The process is straightforward and seamless, and has worked for over a dozen years without any difficulty, and the President’s bald statement that the list is bloated, expired and corrupt is simply not true,” the party said.

According to that party- whose leaders include Senior Counsel and former House Speaker Ralph Ramkarran, Attorney-at-Law  Timothy Jonas and former government minister Dr. Henry Jeffrey-the process for adding and removing names from the voters’ list has been time-tested without any problems.  The party said when the President of Guyana announces a date for national elections, the Elections Commission is obligated to extract from the National List and place on the Voters’ List the names of those persons who are 18 years  and over or will be 18 and over on the date announced for elections. The Voters’ List is then published, and copies are placed prominently at places of poll during a statutory period of claims and objections, according to ANUG, during which any Guyanese may scrutinize the list to object to any names which should not be on the list or any names wrongfully omitted from the list.

Further ANUG said Section 6(A) of the National Registration Act provides that the Elections Commission shall use the official list of electors from the 2001 general and regional elections as the base to commence continuing registration. This provision was inserted by Parliament in 2005.

“The intention of Parliament was that there should be a continuing process by which the list was updated by introducing new young citizens
who reached the age of 14 years and removing deceased citizens. ANUG explained that a method to accomplish this is set out in the Regulations passed under that Act, which provides a machinery for young Guyanese who reach the age of 14 years to be placed on the list, and for deceased Guyanese to be removed from the list. This is done in periodic cycles as part of the continuous process.

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kp posted:

Publicly recommending a consequential order  to the CCJ when it meets on Monday, that political party wants the CCJ to instruct President Granger to pick one of Opposition Leader Bharrat Jagdeo’s 18 nominees for the post of GECOM Chairman and avoid further delay in holding general elections. ” The result will be a Chairman in whom Guyanese may repose their confidence and trust, two conditions which are sadly lacking in our vicious political arena. Anything else will simply protract Guyana’s unhappy difficulties created at the hands of the two parties,” the party said.

ANUG is an interested party and into plenty foolishness

do they know the full consequences of such an Order?

what kind of lawyers are these?

Ralph Ramkarran must be in the same DUNCE mode as when he "advised" the PPP last November that 34 rather than 33 votes were needed to win a NCV

smfh

Everyone knows the game plan. This is not rocket science. The PNC playing for time.  

Do you really think they actually believed in their 34 thingy?   But that exercise in “stupidly” bought then 6 months!

Now here we go, drop another shoe and play stupid.  And they are like a centipede, more legs and more shoes to drop.  This is dragging out to 2020, and they fear no one. The armed forces are behind the PNC and foreign intervention will not happen!

Furthermore, don’t put it past the PNC create some national emergency to delay the 2020 election!  Remote but possible!

ronan posted:
kp posted:

Publicly recommending a consequential order  to the CCJ when it meets on Monday, that political party wants the CCJ to instruct President Granger to pick one of Opposition Leader Bharrat Jagdeo’s 18 nominees for the post of GECOM Chairman and avoid further delay in holding general elections. ” The result will be a Chairman in whom Guyanese may repose their confidence and trust, two conditions which are sadly lacking in our vicious political arena. Anything else will simply protract Guyana’s unhappy difficulties created at the hands of the two parties,” the party said.

ANUG is an interested party and into plenty foolishness

do they know the full consequences of such an Order?

what kind of lawyers are these?

Ralph Ramkarran must be in the same DUNCE mode as when he "advised" the PPP last November that 34 rather than 33 votes were needed to win a NCV

smfh

I have to give you a lil nod here.  ANUG is still-born and seeking relevance!

ksazma posted:

Ralph was wrong and he corrected himself. The Coalition fool were also wrong but sticking to their nature, are still insisting on others accepting their foolishness.

For him to even conjure up that is sheer stupidity.  He jump on another limb because it suits him.  

The Coalition, on the other hand, picked up his stupidity and using it to suit their ends. They already got 6 months out of it.  So it’s working for them.

Sometimes playing stupid is very clever!  Take your pick!

Prashad posted:

I have a feeling that the Rank, sidekick Jeff Henry and the other ranksters will pick up 3 seats in the next election.

And if Shuman  picks up a few,  they will be the trump card for Guyana future if they don’t join forces with PNC or PPP. 

Baseman posted:
ronan posted:
Baseman posted:

Everyone knows the game plan. This is not rocket science. The PNC playing for time. 

they are actually "playing" for H2H

why alyuh friken?

Try to keep up....or you just playing stupid!!

i don't have time for riddles

what's your point?

kp posted:
A New and United Guyana (ANUG) political party at the weekend said a decision by the Guyana Elections Commission (GECOM) to conduct house-to-house registration was  invalid because the Caribbean Court of Justice (CCJ) found that the appointment of the Chairman of that seven-member body was unconstitutional.

Conducting house to house registration can't be invalidated. The people of Guyana have the legal right to be counted.

Mr.T posted:
kp posted:
A New and United Guyana (ANUG) political party at the weekend said a decision by the Guyana Elections Commission (GECOM) to conduct house-to-house registration was  invalid because the Caribbean Court of Justice (CCJ) found that the appointment of the Chairman of that seven-member body was unconstitutional.

Conducting house to house registration can't be invalidated. The people of Guyana have the legal right to be counted.

And H2H is the only method you know for electoral registration.. I see you still living in the past. 

Dave posted:
Mr.T posted:
kp posted:
A New and United Guyana (ANUG) political party at the weekend said a decision by the Guyana Elections Commission (GECOM) to conduct house-to-house registration was  invalid because the Caribbean Court of Justice (CCJ) found that the appointment of the Chairman of that seven-member body was unconstitutional.

Conducting house to house registration can't be invalidated. The people of Guyana have the legal right to be counted.

And H2H is the only method you know for electoral registration.. I see you still living in the past. 

They still do that in England. It's done through the local council registry and a postal registration. If they suspect something is wrong, they come and knock on your door. You can get fined or sent to prison for refusing to register.

Baseman posted:
ksazma posted:

Ralph was wrong and he corrected himself. The Coalition fool were also wrong but sticking to their nature, are still insisting on others accepting their foolishness.

For him to even conjure up that is sheer stupidity.  He jump on another limb because it suits him.  

The Coalition, on the other hand, picked up his stupidity and using it to suit their ends. They already got 6 months out of it.  So it’s working for them.

Sometimes playing stupid is very clever!  Take your pick!

Bai, sometimes people does borrow or steal things and think they own them. Until time catch up with them and they end up losing way more. The wicked and foolish PNC may think that they have 'gotten' 6 extra months but when time catch with them, they will end up costing themselves and Guyana much more. The PNC have never earned anything the right way.

Mr.T posted:
Dave posted:
Mr.T posted:
kp posted:
A New and United Guyana (ANUG) political party at the weekend said a decision by the Guyana Elections Commission (GECOM) to conduct house-to-house registration was  invalid because the Caribbean Court of Justice (CCJ) found that the appointment of the Chairman of that seven-member body was unconstitutional.

Conducting house to house registration can't be invalidated. The people of Guyana have the legal right to be counted.

And H2H is the only method you know for electoral registration.. I see you still living in the past. 

They still do that in England. It's done through the local council registry and a postal registration. If they suspect something is wrong, they come and knock on your door. You can get fined or sent to prison for refusing to register.

Point taken in England. what delay GECOM from taking the birth registration with those 14 years and older and have it update in GECOM electoral database.. they knew since Dec 21/2018 election is coming. 

There is also the claims and objection period. 

 

Dave posted:
Mr.T posted:

They still do that in England. It's done through the local council registry and a postal registration. If they suspect something is wrong, they come and knock on your door. You can get fined or sent to prison for refusing to register.

Point taken in England. what delay GECOM from taking the birth registration with those 14 years and older and have it update in GECOM electoral database.. they knew since Dec 21/2018 election is coming. 

There is also the claims and objection period. 

 

Just after the December 2018 NCM, Patterson's doctor cleared him to return to work but he was told by the government to take lil mo time off. I remember back then we commented that the government was stalling his return to work so they can stall the announcement of early elections. I remember the Chief Elections Officer claiming then that they cannot discuss early elections until Patterson returns to work. Meanwhile unfit and improper to be chairman Patterson was fit and proper to be parading around GT. The wickedness of the PNC has remained constant throughout their 50+ years history.

Bibi Haniffa posted:

What wraaang with y’all people?  Only Jehovah Witnisss people does go Ouse to Ouse.

I don't think the PNC cares about house to house registration either. It is only one of their straw clutching attempts to delay the inevitable.

ksazma posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

What wraaang with y’all people?  Only Jehovah Witnisss people does go Ouse to Ouse.

I don't think the PNC cares about house to house registration either. It is only one of their straw clutching attempts to delay the inevitable.

There is absolutely no question about that.  A huge risk to take in this age of fast flowing information.  They have lost all credibility.

Bibi Haniffa posted:
ksazma posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

What wraaang with y’all people?  Only Jehovah Witnisss people does go Ouse to Ouse.

I don't think the PNC cares about house to house registration either. It is only one of their straw clutching attempts to delay the inevitable.

There is absolutely no question about that.  A huge risk to take in this age of fast flowing information.  They have lost all credibility.

But alas, their wrong and strong attitude doesn't afford them the ability to recognize the risks. 

ksazma posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
ksazma posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

What wraaang with y’all people?  Only Jehovah Witnisss people does go Ouse to Ouse.

I don't think the PNC cares about house to house registration either. It is only one of their straw clutching attempts to delay the inevitable.

There is absolutely no question about that.  A huge risk to take in this age of fast flowing information.  They have lost all credibility.

But alas, their wrong and strong attitude doesn't afford them the ability to recognize the risks. 

Desperate times call for desperate measures.  We have all witnessed the comedy of errors stacking up against the coalition.  Let’s see what happens tomorrow.

Bibi Haniffa posted:
ksazma posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
ksazma posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

What wraaang with y’all people?  Only Jehovah Witnisss people does go Ouse to Ouse.

I don't think the PNC cares about house to house registration either. It is only one of their straw clutching attempts to delay the inevitable.

There is absolutely no question about that.  A huge risk to take in this age of fast flowing information.  They have lost all credibility.

But alas, their wrong and strong attitude doesn't afford them the ability to recognize the risks. 

Desperate times call for desperate measures.  We have all witnessed the comedy of errors stacking up against the coalition.  Let’s see what happens tomorrow.

My guess is that they will continue with their stupid shenanigans.

Vish M posted:

The case for house to house is flawed

The numbers and justifications were false or grossly inflated

This Not politics but gross incompetence 

Do you really believe the Coalition cares of flawed and not flawed?  The goal now is to drag this out as long as possible.  They had a plan prior to the NCV.  

They have the domestic power structure on their side.  The international community will not take punitive action in the foreseeable future. They calculated this. 

I see more mess to come.  

Baseman posted:

 

Furthermore, don’t put it past the PNC create some national emergency to delay the 2020 election!  Remote but possible!

They will do as they did before.  Use the names of deceased people as voters and when the PPP screams they will have no ground to melt down into hysterics.

One would think that in Guyana a clean list is critical. A transparent one which can be verified by interested parties, the voters themselves and the various political parties.

But the PPP wants a bunch of dead people to vote PNC.  If they don't want a current list that is their problem if the PNC uses this to rig.  Any bets some young voters in Regions 2, 3 and 6 will not be added and voters in Regions 4, 7 and 10 will be padded?  This is what the PPP wants.

Prashad posted:

ANUG, UF and Shuman party should combine and run as one in the next election.

They can do as they wish but it will make no difference.  Guyanese will either vote tribe, or stay away from the polls.  They have heard this 3rd party rant before.

Bibi Haniffa posted:
ksazma posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

What wraaang with y’all people?  Only Jehovah Witnisss people does go Ouse to Ouse.

I don't think the PNC cares about house to house registration either. It is only one of their straw clutching attempts to delay the inevitable.

There is absolutely no question about that.  A huge risk to take in this age of fast flowing information.  They have lost all credibility.

They had credibility?

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