Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

I've been telling you people for a very long time that the most hardened black nationalist on this forum is Carib. During the election campaign the AFC lovers ignored this fact and jumped blindly on the bandwagon only to regret it.  Carib's ambition is to see a racially dominated state in Guyana. He either denies or justifies charges of racism against Indos in Guyana.  That what he has been doing on GNI and will continue to do so in the future.

Billy Ram Goat when have you ever discussed issues of Indo/PPP racism against blacks.  Even as the majority of blacks screamed about racism that they endured during the PPP era you denied this.

Now you cannot deny that I have admitted that there is black racism towards Indians.  Please itemize when you have acknowledge Indo racism towards blacks.

yuji22 posted:

I agree. He fully endorsed that picture with Sandra and a black only club.

 

And you ran around screaming "black man time done, ahbe time now, ahbe pan tap".  D2 told you to stop and you didn't, screaming " we gun never have no black president again".  You then called him an anti Indo racist even though he is half Indian, and mentions that often so clearly isnt ashamed of this fact.

Then May 2015 rolled around. I can see your plight as you now suffer the same way as Afros did under the PPP but you are too racist to admit this.

yuji22 posted:

Ow bai, we give all you a lil chance and all you proved that you can’t even run a cake shop but when it comes to fete, sport and wine down, ow me lard, all you win top prize. 

Hey hey hey 

 

You know whats funny.  Under the PPP even their supporters were fleeing Guyana to clean toilets in Barbados.

Now Guyanese are bawling about all the immigrants rushing into Guyana.  Hmmm.  The PPP screaming about "millions" of Haitians swarming all over Guyana. People don't flock to failing countries and they flee those which don't offer opportunities.

In 2005 Barbados was finding PPP supporters sleeping 2 to a bed, snatching them and putting them on the first LIAT flight to Guyana.  You know who was president then.

caribny posted:

Afros have a very open notion of who is "black".  Even some Indos run around calling themselves "black" and are accepted as such.  You might be shocked to hear what your North American grand kids call themselves.

 

Those North American Indian kidss you refer to above. Are they typically striving for the finer things in life or are they just wasting their lives away? The ones I am aware of don't seem too interested in school or work, etc. Is that your observation also?

caribny posted:

And you ran around screaming "black man time done, ahbe time now, ahbe pan tap".  

Consider the background behind what you are saying above. It means that there was a period prior to Coolie getting pan tap where black man had dem time. The only problem is that black man's time was not democratically attained. The PNC never won an election and continued for nearly three decades to illegally squat in office either through force, intimidation and fraud. Looks like they are hell bent on repeating that record.

ksazma posted:
caribny posted:

Afros have a very open notion of who is "black".  Even some Indos run around calling themselves "black" and are accepted as such.  You might be shocked to hear what your North American grand kids call themselves.

 

Those North American Indian kidss you refer to above. Are they typically striving for the finer things in life or are they just wasting their lives away? The ones I am aware of don't seem too interested in school or work, etc. Is that your observation also?

My observation from those who I know is that if their parents focus on providing them with values they do well.   This is true for the black Guyanese kids who I know and I am sure that its true for the Indo Guyanese kids as well.

Some people ignored their kids and then are shocked when the results weren't too good.  There is no village raising kids in this country.  If parents dont do it no one else will.

And the Indo kids who I have heard calling themselves "black" are actually the highly upwardly mobile ones.  They seek to form relationships with as broad a network as possible, note that Asian Indians dont usually include them, so seek alliances with others.  Sticking in a RH mindset they dont see being especially helpful, nor do they see their [parents/grand parents who threaten to kill them if they form connections with blacks to be useful.

Despite what the Indo Nazis think there are a powerful group of young very progressive black people forging ahead.

caribny posted:
ksazma posted:
caribny posted:

Afros have a very open notion of who is "black".  Even some Indos run around calling themselves "black" and are accepted as such.  You might be shocked to hear what your North American grand kids call themselves.

 

Those North American Indian kidss you refer to above. Are they typically striving for the finer things in life or are they just wasting their lives away? The ones I am aware of don't seem too interested in school or work, etc. Is that your observation also?

My observation from those who I know is that if their parents focus on providing them with values they do well.   This is true for the black Guyanese kids who I know and I am sure that its true for the Indo Guyanese kids as well.

Some people ignored their kids and then are shocked when the results weren't too good.  There is no village raising kids in this country.  If parents dont do it no one else will.

And the Indo kids who I have heard calling themselves "black" are actually the highly upwardly mobile ones.  They seek to form relationships with as broad a network as possible, note that Asian Indians dont usually include them, so seek alliances with others.  Sticking in a RH mindset they dont see being especially helpful, nor do they see their [parents/grand parents who threaten to kill them if they form connections with blacks to be useful.

Despite what the Indo Nazis think there are a powerful group of young very progressive black people forging ahead.

My cousin's son got married to a Sikh girl in Richmond Hill.  I met a Sikh guy from NJ who works with Merck. He told me his sister is married to guy from Guyana.  Indian Americans are hanging out with Guyanese.  Carib is talking trash. 

caribny posted:
ksazma posted:
caribny posted:

Afros have a very open notion of who is "black".  Even some Indos run around calling themselves "black" and are accepted as such.  You might be shocked to hear what your North American grand kids call themselves.

 

Those North American Indian kidss you refer to above. Are they typically striving for the finer things in life or are they just wasting their lives away? The ones I am aware of don't seem too interested in school or work, etc. Is that your observation also?

My observation from those who I know is that if their parents focus on providing them with values they do well.   This is true for the black Guyanese kids who I know and I am sure that its true for the Indo Guyanese kids as well.

Some people ignored their kids and then are shocked when the results weren't too good.  There is no village raising kids in this country.  If parents dont do it no one else will.

And the Indo kids who I have heard calling themselves "black" are actually the highly upwardly mobile ones.  They seek to form relationships with as broad a network as possible, note that Asian Indians dont usually include them, so seek alliances with others.  Sticking in a RH mindset they dont see being especially helpful, nor do they see their [parents/grand parents who threaten to kill them if they form connections with blacks to be useful.

Despite what the Indo Nazis think there are a powerful group of young very progressive black people forging ahead.

No one is denying that there are blacks who are progressive because that would be grossly inaccurate. We see many blacks excel and that is not only in sports. Both of my primary doctors are blacks. One woman and one man. The man did his fellowship at Cornell so he is no schmuck. When I criticize blacks, I am criticizing only the ones who are the subject of my criticism.

ksazma posted:
 

No one is denying that there are blacks who are progressive 

In fact you frequently stigmatize.  You even screamed that blacks are a scourge.  Please tell your doctors about the comments that you have made about blacks in Florida.  

And the blacks who are the subject of your criticism are blacks.  You dont specify which group of blacks.  You say blacks.

caribny posted:
ksazma posted:

No one is denying that there are blacks who are progressive 

In fact you frequently stigmatize.  You even screamed that blacks are a scourge.  Please tell your doctors about the comments that you have made about blacks in Florida.  

And the blacks who are the subject of your criticism are blacks.  You dont specify which group of blacks.  You say blacks.

You are a madman. I speak of the blacks in Miami who do bad things and who live in substandard conditions. Didn't you see the video of the teenage intruder in Miami who was shot and killed by the homeowner and whose cousin was wailing that the homeowner had to right to shoot him? I don't need to tell my black doctors about my comments here because we don't talk about black this and white that (or even coolie dat) when I see them. We talk about my health, my family, etc.

ksazma posted:
 

You are a madman. I speak of the blacks in Miami who do bad things and who live in substandard conditions. Didn't you see the video of the teenage intruder in Miami who was shot and killed by the homeowner and whose cousin was wailing that the homeowner had to right to shoot him? I don't need to tell my black doctors about my comments here because we don't talk about black this and white that (or even coolie dat) when I see them. We talk about my health, my family, etc.

Your comments about Miami blacks is that they all do bad things and live under substandard conditions. 

I gave you a chance to clarify your comments by saying that a sizeable % of MIA blacks (certainly at least those of Caribbean stock) are successful homeowners.  Your response was to scoff at my comments and double down about blacks being a lazy welfare bunch who only want handouts.

And not only did you confine this to Miami but you indicted all American and Guyanese blacks and were quite vehement with your views.  You did NOT say "that segment of the black population who.......".  You said black people!

I see Indo Guyanese doing any number of things. In fact in NYC have been involved in killing their wives.  But do I run around and scream that Indo Guyanese are wife killers?  No. 

And I don't hear you talking about poor whites who abound all over the South whose behavior is little different from poor blacks.

caribny posted:
ksazma posted:
 

You are a madman. I speak of the blacks in Miami who do bad things and who live in substandard conditions. Didn't you see the video of the teenage intruder in Miami who was shot and killed by the homeowner and whose cousin was wailing that the homeowner had to right to shoot him? I don't need to tell my black doctors about my comments here because we don't talk about black this and white that (or even coolie dat) when I see them. We talk about my health, my family, etc.

Your comments about Miami blacks is that they all do bad things and live under substandard conditions. 

I gave you a chance to clarify your comments by saying that a sizeable % of MIA blacks (certainly at least those of Caribbean stock) are successful homeowners.  Your response was to scoff at my comments and double down about blacks being a lazy welfare bunch who only want handouts.

And not only did you confine this to Miami but you indicted all American and Guyanese blacks and were quite vehement with your views.  You did NOT say "that segment of the black population who.......".  You said black people!

I see Indo Guyanese doing any number of things. In fact in NYC have been involved in killing their wives.  But do I run around and scream that Indo Guyanese are wife killers?  No. 

And I don't hear you talking about poor whites who abound all over the South whose behavior is little different from poor blacks.

Banna, we fight here about coolies and blacks. We world barely touch any other race. We only bring up white when we want to talk about white women. You need to read between the lines or you would just go mad. Not every black person lives in squalor in Miami or elsewhere. I stated that the ones who do are lazy and irresponsible. I have been defending LeBron (not that he really needs it) when the world hated him and my primary defense was because of his work ethics and in spite of his circumstances which many others would have used as excuses. I have always said that there is good and bad in every community. I just don’t feel like making excuses for people the way you do. But like I said, I have no doubt that you are a good person.

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