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KOLKATA: West Bengal chief minister Mamata Banerjee today said those who accuse her of appeasing Muslims are friends of neither the Hindus nor the Muslims.

"Some accuse me of (doing) Muslim appeasement. My question to them is whether loving Hindus means you have to hate Muslims. I respect and love all communities and religion. This country belongs to everybody," she said.

"Those who say I appease Muslims are friends of neither the Hindus nor the Muslims," Banerjee, also the Trinamool Congress supremo, said while addressing a special prayer gathering on Red Road here to celebrate Eid-ul-Fitr.

The BJP and some other organizations have been charging Banerjee with appeasement of Muslims for political reasons.

The chief minister said it was due to her protest that the Niti Aayog meeting which was earlier scheduled for today was changed to tomorrow. 

"My question to the Central government officials is whether they are not aware that Eid is scheduled to be celebrated on June 16. Why was the Niti Aayog meeting kept on that day? I had written to the Central government urging it to change the date so that it doesn't clash with Eid," she said.

Banerjee had yesterday confirmed her participation in the Niti Aayog's rescheduled governing council meeting in New Delhi on June 17

The meeting, which will be chaired by Prime Minister Narendra Modi, was earlier scheduled on June 16, the day when Eid-ul-Fitr is to be celebrated.

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Banerjee and a few other chief ministers had expressed unwillingness to attend the meeting in view of the Eid festival, following which it was postponed by a day to June 17.


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Baseman posted:
Prince posted:

Inclusiveness and acceptance are the two ingredients to understand coexistence. It's not about being Hindu or Muslim. It's about being human. If you don't understand your inner self, everything else in life will be blurred. 

Listen bai, keep that shyte off this board, it will become boring!

Excerpts: My question to them is whether loving Hindus means you have to hate Muslims. (?)

Whenever I post a thread that I find interesting, I usually do it to focus on a common issue facing another nation. In this case, it's India and the daunting question above? 

FM
Baseman posted:
Prince posted:

Inclusiveness and acceptance are the two ingredients to understand coexistence. It's not about being Hindu or Muslim. It's about being human. If you don't understand your inner self, everything else in life will be blurred. 

Listen bai, keep that shyte off this board, it will become boring!

The man is an attention "getter" hog.

FM
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That paralyzed elderly East Indian Muslim man in Guyana who was burned to death in his wheelchair by Fireman and Gang was killed because he was East Indian.  This secular Hindu here sees Guyanese and Trinidad East Indian Muslims as his brothers and sisters.  I don't know about white Arabs, want to be white Iranians, Traitor Pakies etc.

Prashad
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skeldon_man posted:
Baseman posted:
Prince posted:

Inclusiveness and acceptance are the two ingredients to understand coexistence. It's not about being Hindu or Muslim. It's about being human. If you don't understand your inner self, everything else in life will be blurred. 

Listen bai, keep that shyte off this board, it will become boring!

The man is an attention "getter" hog.

Stop proving yourself as a sore loser and add something to the topic. Discussing me is a waste of time. 

FM
Prince posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Baseman posted:
Prince posted:

Inclusiveness and acceptance are the two ingredients to understand coexistence. It's not about being Hindu or Muslim. It's about being human. If you don't understand your inner self, everything else in life will be blurred. 

Listen bai, keep that shyte off this board, it will become boring!

The man is an attention "getter" hog.

Stop proving yourself as a sore loser and add something to the topic. Discussing me is a waste of time. 

Sometimes I do pay attention to the emotionally distressed and socially maladjusted ones.

FM
Chief posted:

In every religion they have followers who are foolish.

Hats off the Chief Minister, she is dealing with a Government that is not friendly to their Muslim citizens.

Chief, keep in mind. You don't have to be a different religion to be discriminated against. Africans kill each other because of their tribes, Muslims kill each other because of their sects, Hindus do the same. Some people are just stupid because they want to seize power.

FM
Prince posted:

India is NOT an Islamic nation. India is a democratic nation. They have to recognize equal rights and religious freedom. Narendra Modi needs to ease up on his Hindutva, hardline belief. 

Dictating for Hindu-India sets a bad example for freedom loving people around the world. 

INDIA HAS ALWAYS BEEN A SECULAR, DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY, IT IS THE LARGEST DEMOCRACY IN THE PLANET AND WILL ALWAYS BE.. BHARAT MATA KI JAI!!!

Nehru
Nehru posted:
Prince posted:

India is NOT an Islamic nation. India is a democratic nation. They have to recognize equal rights and religious freedom. Narendra Modi needs to ease up on his Hindutva, hardline belief. 

Dictating for Hindu-India sets a bad example for freedom loving people around the world. 

INDIA HAS ALWAYS BEEN A SECULAR, DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY, IT IS THE LARGEST DEMOCRACY IN THE PLANET AND WILL ALWAYS BE.. BHARAT MATA KI JAI!!!

India must act as the largest democracy and expand on freedom rather than make believe and oppressed Muslim over Hindu. Bharrat Mata my rass.

FM
Prince posted:
Nehru posted:
Prince posted:

India is NOT an Islamic nation. India is a democratic nation. They have to recognize equal rights and religious freedom. Narendra Modi needs to ease up on his Hindutva, hardline belief. 

Dictating for Hindu-India sets a bad example for freedom loving people around the world. 

INDIA HAS ALWAYS BEEN A SECULAR, DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY, IT IS THE LARGEST DEMOCRACY IN THE PLANET AND WILL ALWAYS BE.. BHARAT MATA KI JAI!!!

India must act as the largest democracy and expand on freedom rather than make believe and oppressed Muslim over Hindu. Bharrat Mata my rass.

What exactly India did that was contrary to its secular, democratic norms???

Nehru
skeldon_man posted:
Chief posted:

In every religion they have followers who are foolish.

Hats off the Chief Minister, she is dealing with a Government that is not friendly to their Muslim citizens.

Chief, keep in mind. You don't have to be a different religion to be discriminated against. Africans kill each other because of their tribes, Muslims kill each other because of their sects, Hindus do the same. Some people are just stupid because they want to seize power.

Well said. Religion and race were also used by the Colonial Powers to divide and conquer.

GTAngler
1984 anti-Sikh riots
Sikh man being surrounded and beaten
Sikh man surrounded and beaten by a mob
LocationPunjabDelhi
Date31 October – 3 November 1984
TargetSikhs
Attack type
Massacremass murderforced conversionarsonabductionrapeacid throwing
Deaths(official) 2,800[1]
(unofficial) 8,000[2]
PerpetratorsCongress Party members
MotiveAvenging the assassination of Indira Gandhi

The 1984 anti-Sikh riots, also known as the 1984 Sikh Massacre, was a series of organised pogroms[3][4][1] against Sikhs in India by anti-Sikh mobs (notably Congress Party members and temporarily released convicts) in response to the assassination of Indira Gandhi by her Sikh bodyguards. Official Indian government reports numbered about 2,800 killed across India, including 2,100 in Delhi.[1][5] Independent sources estimate the number of deaths at about 8,000,[2][6][7] including at least 3,000 in Delhi.[8] The Central Bureau of Investigation, the main Indian investigative agency, believes that the violence was organised with support from the Delhi police and some central-government officials.[9] Rajiv Gandhi, who was sworn in as prime minister after his mother's death, said when asked about the riots: "When a big tree falls, the earth shakes".[10]

Sporadic violence continued as the result of an armed Sikh separatist movement which sought independence. In June 1984, during Operation Blue Star, Indira Gandhi ordered the Indian Army to attack the Golden Temple and eliminate any insurgents; it had been occupied by Sikh separatists, who were reportedly[weasel words] stockpiling weapons. Later operations by Indian paramilitary forces were conducted to clear the separatists from the state of Punjab.[11]

The violence in Delhi was triggered by the assassination of Prime Minister Indira Gandhi on 31 October 1984 by two of her Sikh bodyguards who responded to her authorisation of the military operation. One of the assassins was fatally shot by Gandhi's other bodyguards while the other was shot, hospitalized, convicted of Gandhi's murder and then executed. The Indian government reported 2,700 deaths in the ensuing chaos. In the aftermath of the riots, the government reported that 20,000 had fled the city; the People's Union for Civil Liberties reported "at least" 1,000 displaced persons.[12] The most-affected regions were the Sikh neighbourhoods of Delhi. Human rights organisations and newspapers across India believed that the massacre was organised.[1][9][13] The collusion of political officials in the violence and judicial failure to penalise the perpetrators alienated Sikhs and increased support for the Khalistan movement.[14] The Akal TakhtSikhism's governing body, considers the killings genocide.[15]

In 2011, Human Rights Watch reported that the Government of India had "yet to prosecute those responsible for the mass killings".[16] According to the 2011 WikiLeaks cable leaks, the United States was convinced of Indian National Congress complicity in the riots and called it "opportunism" and "hatred" by the Congress government of Sikhs.[17][18] Although the U.S. has not identified the riots as genocide, it acknowledged that "grave human rights violations" occurred.[19] In 2011, a new group of mass graves was discovered in Haryana and Human Rights Watch reported that "widespread anti-Sikh attacks in Haryana were part of broader revenge attacks" in India.[20]

FM
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AMU, the ambitious debut feature by Shonali Bose, wears its political heart on its sleeve and is unafraid to tackle big topics: identity, history, truth, injustice.

The film, which begins as a gentle comedy of clashing cultures, follows Kaju Roy (Konkona Sensharma), an Indian-American visiting relatives in Delhi. Searching for what she calls "the real India," Kaju, orphaned at 3, is searching for herself and, soon, interrogating the past. And a bloody past it is.

Ms. Bose's real concern here is the riots that broke out in 1984 after India's prime minister, Indira Gandhi, was assassinated by her Sikh bodyguards. Thousands of Sikh men and boys in Delhi were murdered, and as Kaju learns, families were dispersed, and justice has been delayed and denied.

"Amu" wants to do many things at once: to find the personal in the political, to meld the two and to indict the Indian government. Ms. Bose, who also wrote the screenplay, isn't yet a skilled enough filmmaker to weave these threads together seamlessly.

Still, this movie has moments of considerable charm (Kaju and her cousin explaining some facts of modern life to their grandmother; a boy dancing to a Bollywood song until the electricity goes off) and of real power (the riot sequences, seen from a child's perspective

 

Produced, written (in English, Bengali, Hindi and Punjabi, with English subtitles) and directed by Shonali Bose; director of photography, Lourdes Ambrose; edited by Bob Brooks; music by Nandlal Nayak; production designer, Ayesha Punvani; released by Emerging Pictures. Running time: 102 minutes. This film is not rated.

Continue reading the main storyOpens today in Manhattan.
 
 
FM
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GTAngler posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Chief posted:

In every religion they have followers who are foolish.

Hats off the Chief Minister, she is dealing with a Government that is not friendly to their Muslim citizens.

Chief, keep in mind. You don't have to be a different religion to be discriminated against. Africans kill each other because of their tribes, Muslims kill each other because of their sects, Hindus do the same. Some people are just stupid because they want to seize power.

Well said. Religion and race were also used by the Colonial Powers to divide and conquer.

Chief's a poke!

Baseman

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