PPP General Secretary Bharrat Jagdeo points to presidential candidate, Irfan Ali while admitting he was his pick.

Opposition Leader, Bharrat Jagdeo on Thursday accused the governing coalition of stealing his People’s Progressive Party Civic (PPPC) idea to offer free university education if it wins the next general elections.

A day after Prime Minister Moses Nagamootoo told Essequibo Coast residents that he and President David Granger were examining the possibility of scrapping tuition fees for attending the University of Guyana, Jagdeo said he had first hinted that the PPP had been preparing to announce a major education initiative.

“Suddenly, Nagamootoo, he is exploring the same thing. Nagamootoo, now, latches on to this here and says we are exploring free university education. They had a chance…,” Jagdeo said, adding that President David Granger broke his promises to university students.

He said the idea had been floated several months ago at a PPP manifesto consultation and the party’s presidential candidate, Irfan Ali has been floating the idea at a number of community meetings. “Last week I said we are discussing an exciting new package for university students then our presidential candidate at some of his meetings said we are costing now what it will take to deliver free university education in some time in the future,” he said.

Prime Minister Moses Nagamootoo speaking at a community meeting at Aurora Secondary School, Pomona, Essequibo Coast.

Additionally, Jagdeo said the PPP has promised that an additional 20,000 persons would have Online access to university education.

The PPP General Secretary said Nagamootoo seized the opportunity on the Essequibo Coast to project himself as Granger’s running mate for the next general elections although the Alliance For Change has not yet decided who that person would be. AFC Chairman, Khemraj Ramjattan has publicly expressed an interest in the number two spot.

The Desmond Hoyte administration had agreed with the World Bank to introduce tuition fees at the University of Guyana, but that measure had been shelved until after the 1992 elections. When the PPP won those elections, they went ahead with the proposal in 1994 and also established the Student Loan Agency of the Ministry of Finance.

At one time, the tuition fees for most academic programmes had remained stagnant at GYD$127,000 per academic year, while operational costs skyrocketed and salaries remained depressed.

Tuition fees were eventually increased and new charges were introduced in recent years to help the more than 50-year old tertiary institution stay afloat.

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Dave posted:

This Namakaram still promising... 

- them rice farmer still waiting for the $9000. per bag rice.

- and he took away the school voucher from the poor working class to fatten himself.

 

Guyanese might pelt Ghanda eggs 🥚 on him. 

yuji22 posted:
Dave posted:

This Namakaram still promising... 

- them rice farmer still waiting for the $9000. per bag rice.

- and he took away the school voucher from the poor working class to fatten himself.

 

Guyanese might pelt Ghanda eggs 🥚 on him. 

Class post !!!.. eh... bhai.

Dave posted:
The Desmond Hoyte administration had agreed with the World Bank to introduce tuition fees at the University of Guyana, but that measure had been shelved until after the 1992 elections. When the PPP won those elections, they went ahead with the proposal in 1994 and also established the Student Loan Agency of the Ministry of Finance.

So tuition was free prior to 1992?

Django posted:

Oh skites Dave, why the PPP didn't implement "Free University Education"  ? they had 23 yrs bhai. The two last sentences are red herrings.

You phaglee or what.. them had to fill the holes ayo PNC make, yo gon give way free what you don’t have. 

The oil money coming. 

Dave posted:
Django posted:

Oh skites Dave, why the PPP didn't implement "Free University Education"  ? they had 23 yrs bhai. The two last sentences are red herrings.

You phaglee or what.. them had to fill the holes ayo PNC make, yo gon give way free what you don’t have. 

The oil money coming. 

Banna who you fooling  ?  i am aware how the hole was filled...try again !!!

Django posted:
Dave posted:
Django posted:

Oh skites Dave, why the PPP didn't implement "Free University Education"  ? they had 23 yrs bhai. The two last sentences are red herrings.

You phaglee or what.. them had to fill the holes ayo PNC make, yo gon give way free what you don’t have. 

The oil money coming. 

Banna who you fooling  ?  i am aware how the hole was filled...try again !!!

How the holes was  fill .. tell  we nah. And you gon fill the hole and tek am from somewhere else.. You is wan smart businessman. 

BTW, I don’t believe in giving away free ( education) Guyanese are a lay back set of people. 

Dave posted:

How the holes was  fill .. tell  we nah. And you gon fill the hole and tek am from somewhere else.. You is wan smart businessman. 

BTW, I don’t believe in giving away free ( education) Guyanese are a lay back set of people. 

Information all over the place, you think them people stupid !!!

There are differences in Countries Financing and Business Financing. One can save money by digging hole to fill a hole in Business Financing , providing you have equity in other investments, thought you knew that.

Django posted:
yuji22 posted:
Dave posted:

This Namakaram still promising... 

- them rice farmer still waiting for the $9000. per bag rice.

- and he took away the school voucher from the poor working class to fatten himself.

 

Guyanese might pelt Ghanda eggs 🥚 on him. 

Class post !!!.. eh... bhai.

You think Moses deserves better ? Someone pelting him with Ghanda Eggs might actually be a compliment for that idiot and lying politician. 

Django posted:
Dave posted:

How the holes was  fill .. tell  we nah. And you gon fill the hole and tek am from somewhere else.. You is wan smart businessman. 

BTW, I don’t believe in giving away free ( education) Guyanese are a lay back set of people. 

Information all over the place, you think them people stupid !!!

There are differences in Countries Financing and Business Financing. One can save money by digging hole to fill a hole in Business Financing , providing you have equity in other investments, thought you knew that.

Since you keep asking if “ people stupid “ yes I think you are. 

Here is a teachable moments for you. 

- Don’t compare Guyana to other countries financial status. ( I see you is a smart old man) 

- when me make reference to you as a businessman, apply your business/ economic sense to Guyana economy  ( not to a private business, you must reread and read over comments before you hit the keyboard) 

tell me what resources Guyana have, that would generate the revenue to refill any loans for FREE education.

If not for the oil coming, Guyana would be a lost state and it will,  if proper management is not put in place. 

The Potatoes planting they experiment with.. that was done years ago. It can only grow in Kato ( Kimbia ) the only resource of transport is by aircraft.. it’s cheaper to buy Potatoes from Holland that flying potatoes from Kimbia. 

Dave posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:

How the holes was  fill .. tell  we nah. And you gon fill the hole and tek am from somewhere else.. You is wan smart businessman. 

BTW, I don’t believe in giving away free ( education) Guyanese are a lay back set of people. 

Information all over the place, you think them people stupid !!!

There are differences in Countries Financing and Business Financing. One can save money by digging hole to fill a hole in Business Financing , providing you have equity in other investments, thought you knew that.

Since you keep asking if “ people stupid “ yes I think you are. 

Here is a teachable moments for you. 

- Don’t compare Guyana to other countries financial status. ( I see you is a smart old man) 

- when me make reference to you as a businessman, apply your business/ economic sense to Guyana economy  ( not to a private business, you must reread and read over comments before you hit the keyboard) 

tell me what resources Guyana have, that would generate the revenue to refill any loans for FREE education.

If not for the oil coming, Guyana would be a lost state and it will,  if proper management is not put in place. 

The Potatoes planting they experiment with.. that was done years ago. It can only grow in Kato ( Kimbia ) the only resource of transport is by aircraft.. it’s cheaper to buy Potatoes from Holland that flying potatoes from Kimbia. 

Total garbage, that is the norm from you !!!

Django posted:
Dave posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:

How the holes was  fill .. tell  we nah. And you gon fill the hole and tek am from somewhere else.. You is wan smart businessman. 

BTW, I don’t believe in giving away free ( education) Guyanese are a lay back set of people. 

Information all over the place, you think them people stupid !!!

There are differences in Countries Financing and Business Financing. One can save money by digging hole to fill a hole in Business Financing , providing you have equity in other investments, thought you knew that.

Since you keep asking if “ people stupid “ yes I think you are. 

Here is a teachable moments for you. 

- Don’t compare Guyana to other countries financial status. ( I see you is a smart old man) 

- when me make reference to you as a businessman, apply your business/ economic sense to Guyana economy  ( not to a private business, you must reread and read over comments before you hit the keyboard) 

tell me what resources Guyana have, that would generate the revenue to refill any loans for FREE education.

If not for the oil coming, Guyana would be a lost state and it will,  if proper management is not put in place. 

The Potatoes planting they experiment with.. that was done years ago. It can only grow in Kato ( Kimbia ) the only resource of transport is by aircraft.. it’s cheaper to buy Potatoes from Holland that flying potatoes from Kimbia. 

Total garbage, that is the norm from you !!!

Nothing substantial to offer when you are cornered... trade mark of Django. Run Django Run. 

Dave posted:

Nothing substantial to offer when you are cornered... trade mark of Django. Run Django Run. 

Cornered !!! you are clueless regarding Free Education, also untapped resources of Guyana. Thinks like the crew from Freedom House, sorry you are not within my league.

Django posted:
Dave posted:

Nothing substantial to offer when you are cornered... trade mark of Django. Run Django Run. 

Cornered !!! you are clueless regarding Free Education, also untapped resources of Guyana. Thinks like the crew from Freedom House, sorry you are not within my league.

Of course, I don’t want to be in that backdam mentality of yours. Poor you. 

Dave posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:

Nothing substantial to offer when you are cornered... trade mark of Django. Run Django Run. 

Cornered !!! you are clueless regarding Free Education, also untapped resources of Guyana. Thinks like the crew from Freedom House, sorry you are not within my league.

Of course, I don’t want to be in that backdam mentality of yours. Poor you. 

Banna give it a rest , you don't know what you are talking about.

Django posted:
Dave posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:

Nothing substantial to offer when you are cornered... trade mark of Django. Run Django Run. 

Cornered !!! you are clueless regarding Free Education, also untapped resources of Guyana. Thinks like the crew from Freedom House, sorry you are not within my league.

Of course, I don’t want to be in that backdam mentality of yours. Poor you. 

Banna give it a rest , you don't know what you are talking about.

You provide supporting facts to a question, don’t be a 2 years old with tantrums.. 

Dave posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:

Nothing substantial to offer when you are cornered... trade mark of Django. Run Django Run. 

Cornered !!! you are clueless regarding Free Education, also untapped resources of Guyana. Thinks like the crew from Freedom House, sorry you are not within my league.

Of course, I don’t want to be in that backdam mentality of yours. Poor you. 

Banna give it a rest , you don't know what you are talking about.

You provide supporting facts to a question, don’t be a 2 years old with tantrums.. 

The one with tantrums here are you !!!  educate yourself on free education,  how money spent are recouped. I can bet my reading is widely more than you.

Have a great day !!!

Does Barrat only have brain to think of new idea for Guyana ? 

Give anything free to Guyana people might make them more lazy and might destroy them like South Sea islanders.

Why is Mr. Irfat sitting like a puppy dog on leach, while he slave master control him.

Indians on GNI.....the king have no clothes. But you are too blind to see.   

Keep your anti indo Shyte to yourself. 

You used to skin your mouth about the AFC. They are biggest bunch of thieves and shoved a big stick up yours and you are still smiling.

Talk about you being dumb. 

SMH

Nehru posted:

Laad Ah Mercy Well, dat is what you call " bharat giving people shittins"

These chaps were singing Moses and Ramjattan bhajans. Those two crooks conned them and shoved a big stick up their rear and they are still with the same Shyte, Jagdeo this and Jagdeo that. 

Granger also gave them a big burger 🍔 and they are begging him for more.

I hope that Irfaan catch these AFC slop can clowns and give them some good 🍔 burger. 

Talk about stupidity.

 

Django posted:
Dave posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:

Nothing substantial to offer when you are cornered... trade mark of Django. Run Django Run. 

Cornered !!! you are clueless regarding Free Education, also untapped resources of Guyana. Thinks like the crew from Freedom House, sorry you are not within my league.

Of course, I don’t want to be in that backdam mentality of yours. Poor you. 

Banna give it a rest , you don't know what you are talking about.

You provide supporting facts to a question, don’t be a 2 years old with tantrums.. 

The one with tantrums here are you !!!  educate yourself on free education,  how money spent are recouped. I can bet my reading is widely more than you.

Have a great day !!!

This is such a antiman / childish response  .. you make my day.

Nah is not me who have tantrums... you are the one.

i can bet my reading is widely more than you ..hey hey ( who asked you about viewership) hey hey 

I see why you started a thread about Drugb using the word slop can .. when he didn’t direct the name at you 

Dude tek it easy!! Tek it easy oldman .

them say once a man twice a child. 

You can respond if you care and I know you will.. but I man taking the high rd. 

 

antabanta posted:
Dave posted:

Not yet, will do so later. 

Great! Come back after and update us on whether UG was free or not prior to 1992.

That's how Dave, responds then he accused posters of throwing a fit, that paper  in 2006,from UNESCO is on Principles and general objectives of education in Guyana .There is no mention of the PPP introducing free education at UG.

The facts are the PPP introduced fees as cost recovery program.While the Constitution states:

The Constitution does not enshrine a right to education, but Article 27 confers on “every citizen [...]the right to free education from nursery to university as well as at non-formal places where opportunities are provided for education and training.” Article 28 promises every young person the right, inter alia, to ideological, social, cultural and vocational development. The Parliament may, by law, provide for the enforcement of these in a court or tribunal “only where and to the extent to which (Parliament by law so) provides [...] and not otherwise” (Article 39, Constitution of the Cooperative Republic of Guyana, Constitutional Amendment Act No. 1, 1988).

 

History of the University of Guyana

http://library.uog.edu.gy/port...nent/k2/item/12-test

The University of Guyana (UG) was launched on October 1, 1963 following assent being given to the University of Guyana Ordinance on April 18, 1963, by Governor, Sir Ralph Grey. When it opened its doors on October 2, 1963, UG functioned as an evening institution with only 164 students enrolled for classes in three Faculties – Arts, Natural Sciences and Social Sciences. Classes were held between 17:30 h and 21:30 h at the Government Technical Institute and Queen’s College, where laboratory facilities could be shared. 

The Booker Group of Companies provided 1450 acres of land for a campus at Turkeyen. The soil was turned by Prime Minister L.F.S. Burnham on May 24, 1966. Construction work commenced on January 2, 1968, and the first building was declared open on February 24, 1970. A major physical rehabilitation and expansion programme have since been completed, and several new buildings are now available, allowing for more classroom space among other things. 

The New Building Society provided funding for the construction of a 40-room Student Halls of Residence. This building was opened on May 27, 1994 and houses students from the outlying areas of Guyana. A second Halls of Residence was constructed on campus by the Beharry Group of Companies to house 44 students while a third, the Dennis Irving Halls of Residence, was built by the University at Goedverwagting to accommodate an additional 46 students. 

When it commenced operations, the annual tuition fee at the University was $100 but this was abolished in 1974.
In the 1994-1995 academic year the University introduced a Cost Recovery Programme. Resident Guyanese students are now required to pay G$127,000 per annum, except for those pursuing studies in Law, Medicine, Nursing and Tourism, where the fees are $300,000, $500,000, $251,000 and $158,000 respectively. The fees are higher for non-resident Guyanese and foreign students. 

Coalition stole PPP idea of free university education – Jagdeo

 

The Desmond Hoyte administration had agreed with the World Bank to introduce tuition fees at the University of Guyana, but that measure had been shelved until after the 1992 elections. When the PPP won those elections, they went ahead with the proposal in 1994 and also established the Student Loan Agency of the Ministry of Finance.

 

Here is next project for Dave, find the document on the Economic Recovery Program under the Hoyte Adminstration.

Django posted:

Coalition stole PPP idea of free university education – Jagdeo

 

The Desmond Hoyte administration had agreed with the World Bank to introduce tuition fees at the University of Guyana, but that measure had been shelved until after the 1992 elections. When the PPP won those elections, they went ahead with the proposal in 1994 and also established the Student Loan Agency of the Ministry of Finance.

 

Here is next project for Dave, find the document on the Economic Recovery Program under the Hoyte Adminstration.

Dj I think you have misunderstood me about this Free Education thing.

It was FREE prior to 1992, but the country was bankrupt, you can’t keep taking debts and give it away when there is no means of resources to refill the debts. 

Thats why I said the oil money is coming now ... opportunity will be there to offer the Free Education. 

You should know the saying “ easy comes easy goes” - guyanese get too sweeten to freeness. 

With oil in de pipeline de politician promising free tuition, but the fact is that even if free, a degree from UG means very little in todays world. What they should promise is free education at overseas universities, then that would be impressive. Maybe even the slopster would apply. 

Dave posted:

Dj I think you have misunderstood me about this Free Education thing.

It was FREE prior to 1992, but the country was bankrupt, you can’t keep taking debts and give it away when there is no means of resources to refill the debts. 

Thats why I said the oil money is coming now ... opportunity will be there to offer the Free Education. 

You should know the saying “ easy comes easy goes” - guyanese get too sweeten to freeness. 

Under Hoyte, the country was already on the Economic Recovery Program, with debt write off  and other assistance, don't blame bankruptcy.

Honestly if some of the Oil Revenues is used for Free University Education, that's a good idea the Country will need a lots of skills in the oil industry and other spin off. Also it will boost the Country number in University educated.

Django posted:
 
 

Under Hoyte, the country was already on the Economic Recovery Program, with debt write off  and other assistance, don't blame bankruptcy.

Honestly if some of the Oil Revenues is used for Free University Education, that's a good idea the Country will need a lots of skills in the oil industry and other spin off. Also it will boost the Country number in University educated.

the lack of knowledge drive some to swallow all kinds of pnc/afc pills. What specific oil industry job? One man had the idea of a shore base facility so Guyana can benefit from the oil industry and to date the govt has shuffled its feet. So i don't know what the hell the uninformed like you are parroting about skills needed in oil industry. So far all serious supplies are being sourced from T & T and they are benefiting handsomely from Guyana's oil discovery while Guyanese suck salt.

https://www.kaieteurnewsonline...boost-local-content/

Dave posted:
antabanta posted:
Dave posted:

Not yet, will do so later. 

Great! Come back after and update us on whether UG was free or not prior to 1992.

Bhai in all due to you, here is Odeen Ishmael  How Free was the “Free Education “. 

http://www.guyana.org/features...wentieth_Century.pdf

Ow budday.... the question is a very simple one, not requiring references to links and deep research. Do you concede that tuition at University of Guyana was free prior to 1992 and fees were introduced by the PPP in 1994? If so, how can the PPP and its supporters like yourself claim credit for wanting to implement free tuition when it was free at the inception?

Drugb posted:
Django posted:
 
 

Under Hoyte, the country was already on the Economic Recovery Program, with debt write off  and other assistance, don't blame bankruptcy.

Honestly if some of the Oil Revenues is used for Free University Education, that's a good idea the Country will need a lots of skills in the oil industry and other spin off. Also it will boost the Country number in University educated.

the lack of knowledge drive some to swallow all kinds of pnc/afc pills. What specific oil industry job? One man had the idea of a shore base facility so Guyana can benefit from the oil industry and to date the govt has shuffled its feet. So i don't know what the hell the uninformed like you are parroting about skills needed in oil industry. So far all serious supplies are being sourced from T & T and they are benefiting handsomely from Guyana's oil discovery while Guyanese suck salt.

https://www.kaieteurnewsonline...boost-local-content/

Anta and DJ are peddling in their dunce canoe. 

antabanta posted:
Dave posted:
antabanta posted:
Dave posted:

Not yet, will do so later. 

Great! Come back after and update us on whether UG was free or not prior to 1992.

Bhai in all due to you, here is Odeen Ishmael  How Free was the “Free Education “. 

http://www.guyana.org/features...wentieth_Century.pdf

Ow budday.... the question is a very simple one, not requiring references to links and deep research. Do you concede that tuition at University of Guyana was free prior to 1992 and fees were introduced by the PPP in 1994? If so, how can the PPP and its supporters like yourself claim credit for wanting to implement free tuition when it was free at the inception?

PNC secure two soft loans in the 1980s from IDB. early in 1990 the UNDP assisted UG financially through its united nation volunteers program. it was expected that the salary increases of over 90% for academic staff in 1994  would result in attracting local expertise to UG.. making the UNV programme no longer necessary.

the UNC was discontinued but UG remains unattractive to more highly qualified professional.

if the IDB programme was to sustain, a massive increase in UG budget was needed.

because of the country economic problems, larger government subvention was not possible.

The vice chancellor of UG proposed a Cost recovery plan  that involves a repayment of cost by students after graduation over a period that could extended to 20 years.

To launch such a plan, government increase UG budget from G80M in 1992 to G300M for the school year 1993/1994. 

PPP government obtain a loan from sources to fund loans to student for 1994/1995.

i hope this answer your questions, why Fees was introduce in 1994.

 

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