Chief Justice orders AG to activate judicial review law

Chief Justice orders AG to activate judicial review law

-says failure to do so unlawful

Anil Nandlall

Chief Justice Roxane George yesterday ordered Attorney-General (AG) Basil Williams to bring the long-delayed Judicial Review Act (JRA) into force no later than July 31st, while finding that his failure to do so thus far was unlawful and in violation of the will of the Parliament.

Among other things, the judge noted that Williams, who is also the Minister of Legal Affairs, had a duty to have already brought the legislation, which is intended to work in tandem with the Civil Procedure Rules (CPR), into effect.

 

The judgment was made on an application by Williams’ predecessor, Anil Nandlall, who contended that Williams was under a duty bring the Act into force.

The Bill enacting the Judicial Review Act, No. 23 of 2010, was assented to by former president Bharrat Jagdeo in 2010…..

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skeldon_man posted:

Django, please post the full article from Stabroek News..

Chief Justice orders AG to activate judicial review law

-says failure to do so unlawful

Chief Justice Roxane George yesterday ordered Attorney-General (AG) Basil Williams to bring the long-delayed Judicial Review Act (JRA) into force no later than July 31st, while finding that his failure to do so thus far was unlawful and in violation of the will of the Parliament.

Among other things, the judge noted that Williams, who is also the Minister of Legal Affairs, had a duty to have already brought the legislation, which is intended to work in tandem with the Civil Procedure Rules (CPR), into effect.

The judgment was made on an application by Williams’ predecessor, Anil Nandlall, who contended that Williams was under a duty bring the Act into force.

The Bill enacting the Judicial Review Act, No. 23 of 2010, was assented to by former president Bharrat Jagdeo in 2010.

Basil Williams

 

Nandlall had said that the only reason it was not brought into operation during his tenure under the PPP/C administration, was because they had been waiting for the CPR to come into force. The CPR only came into operation two years ago.

Among other things, the Chief Justice noted that with these rules having been enforced, it was thereafter for the Minister of Legal Affairs to have also brought the JRA into operation, irrespective of which government is in power.

Justice George declared that Williams would have breached his duty by not bringing the Act into force, while noting that no excuse had been given and the delay on his part could only have been seen as a refusal to operational that legislation.

Citing case law, the judge noted that this had been a breach of Williams’ statutory duty—was unlawful, and in violation of the letter and spirit of the Act itself as well as the will of the Parliament.

She found also that he did not have a discretion after the CPR came into force. That discretion, the court noted, had been converted into an obligatory duty to bring the Act into force.

To Williams’ argument that he needed to give priority to the president’s legislative agenda, the court said this had no relevance, while noting that the Parliament would have already expressed its will, after which the Bill had been passed and assented to.

Referencing the Hansard, which was tendered as an exhibit, the judge highlighted that passage of the bill had received unanimous parliamentary support, with members of the National Assembly regarding it as a means of making the judiciary more efficient.

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Williams had also sought to argue that as an executive officer, the Court had no coercive power over him. But this contention was rejected by Justice George, who noted that as a member of the executive, he is reviewable like every other public officer and that if he failed to execute duties imposed upon him by law, then the court is empowered to compel him to perform those issues.

Having regard to her finding that the Act be operationalised, the judge, after again relying on case law, issued to Williams a mandatory order to bring the Act into force “with all convenient speed.”

To this end, she has given him until July 31st of this year to so do, thus making absolute the order nisi of mandamus which Nandlall was seeking to compel Williams to bring the Act into force.

She also awarded the applicant court costs in the sum of $100,000, which has to be borne by the state.

Williams had also argued that as a member of the Executive, if the court were to order him to perform any function, it would be violating the doctrine of Separation of Powers. This position was, however, also rejected by the judge, who said that it had nothing to do with that doctrine.

It was against this backdrop that the court noted its duty to ensure that public officers were acting in accordance with the law when discharging duties by which they were bound by those laws. 

In his application before the court Nandlall had maintained that the CPR and the JRA were always intended to work together and that the procedure to access the remedies contained in the Act are those very rules.

He had noted that the reason Parliament had not brought the Act into force at the time the Bill was passed and resultantly delegated it to the Minister of Legal Affairs was to allow for the CPR to first be enforced.

Once those rules would have come into force, however, the discretion which the Minister would have had would then crystallize into a duty by which he would then be bound to bringing the Act into force.

In comments to the press after the judgment was delivered, Nandlall expressed satisfaction with the ruling. He noted that while in opposition, not only did Williams support the law but he knew that it had a connection with the CPR, yet even after the rules came into force he refused concomitantly bring the Act into force.

He noted that the piece of legislation is for the public good, while explaining that the Act contains a repertoire of remedies that would allow citizens to challenge “almost every conceivable” action of the government, a public officer or statutory agency.

He also explained that it allows for compensation to be paid when there is a violation.

Williams, against whom the action was brought, was represented by state attorney Oneka Archer-Caulder.

In a letter to the press in February of last year, Nandlall had described judicial review as that area of law which guards against abuse of power and touted it as the fastest growing area of law in the English-speaking Caribbean.

He went on to expound that it allows for a citizen who is aggrieved by the act or omission of any public officer, including ministers of government, any public authority or any statutory tribunal, to challenge the said act or omission on the ground that the act or omission is unlawful/illegal/contrary to some written law, including the Constitution/arbitrary/capricious/discriminatory/in breach of natural justice/ultra vires/in breach of one’s legitimate expectations.

The Judicial Review Act provides that the rules of procedure in respect of how the Court is to be approached by a litigant to access remedies under the said Act are contained in the CPR since the “rules of court” which were extant at the time, made no provisions whatsoever for judicial review applications.

Since the CPR were not in force in 2010 when the JRA was passed and the then rules of court were silent on the issue, a provision was inserted in the said Act to say that the Act shall come into operation on a date appointed by order of the Minister.

As Nandlall had stated in his letter, this was specifically done to await the promulgation of the CPR, which contained the procedure for judicial review applications.

Although these rules provided for it, however, judicial review had not been available as the Act had not been brought into force.

The former AG had said that in those circumstances, lawyers had been forced to become creative by making applications for the old prerogative remedies under the new Civil Procedure Rules, since the old rules of court under which those remedies could have been applied for have been overtaken by the new rules.

Legal proceedings filed under such dubious circumstances, he had said, were fraught with unnecessary procedural hurdles and hiccups.

One such hurdle was detected by the Caribbean Court of Justice, which ruled last month in the case of Jose Ocampo Trueba and the Medical Council of Guyana that it was the CPR of 2016 which applied to Trueba’s judicial review claims and not the old Crown Office Rules (COR) of 1906.

Trueba had lost his challenge to the Medical Council refusing him full registration to practice here.

This case had been cited and relied upon by Justice George in her ruling.

"The Bill enacting the Judicial Review Act, No. 23 of 2010, was assented to by former president Bharrat Jagdeo in 2010.

Nandlall had said that the only reason it was not brought into operation during his tenure under the PPP/C administration, was because they had been waiting for the CPR to come into force. The CPR only came into operation two years ago."


 

This is Guyana,every one trying to score political points.

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Looks like there is hope for the justice system.

The problem with Anil is he is not a political savvy person like Jagdeo who knows how to maneuver himself as a leader. He does not have a strong support in the PPP Central Committee,

Then...there is that Kaieteur News tape..

Guyana, and the PPP, must do better...we need a new class of leaders who are above the fray.

VishMahabir posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Looks like there is hope for the justice system.

The problem with Anil is he is not a political savvy person like Jagdeo who knows how to maneuver himself as a leader. He does not have a strong support in the PPP Central Committee,

Then...there is that Kaieteur News tape..

Guyana, and the PPP, must do better...we need a new class of leaders who are above the fray.

Wait, you cant ask a man if he Knack ah thing anymore?)):

VishMahabir posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Looks like there is hope for the justice system.

The problem with Anil is he is not a political savvy person like Jagdeo who knows how to maneuver himself as a leader. He does not have a strong support in the PPP Central Committee,

Then...there is that Kaieteur News tape..

Guyana, and the PPP, must do better...we need a new class of leaders who are above the fray.

Au contraire.  Anil is one of the smartest people in Guyana right now. Based on that comment you made about the Central Committee, I can tell that you know absolutely nothing about what goes on in the PPP party.

Nehru posted:
VishMahabir posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Looks like there is hope for the justice system.

The problem with Anil is he is not a political savvy person like Jagdeo who knows how to maneuver himself as a leader. He does not have a strong support in the PPP Central Committee,

Then...there is that Kaieteur News tape..

Guyana, and the PPP, must do better...we need a new class of leaders who are above the fray.

Wait, you cant ask a man if he Knack ah thing anymore?)):

Not if he is being audio taped for public consumption...some things are better left in private

Bibi Haniffa posted:
VishMahabir posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Looks like there is hope for the justice system.

The problem with Anil is he is not a political savvy person like Jagdeo who knows how to maneuver himself as a leader. He does not have a strong support in the PPP Central Committee,

Then...there is that Kaieteur News tape..

Guyana, and the PPP, must do better...we need a new class of leaders who are above the fray.

Au contraire.  Anil is one of the smartest people in Guyana right now. Based on that comment you made about the Central Committee, I can tell that you know absolutely nothing about what goes on in the PPP party.

He would have to compete against big guns like Texeira, Rohee, Ramotar, etc. He is a brilliant legal mind, not a politically savvy guy...based on what I know of him.

VishMahabir posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
VishMahabir posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Looks like there is hope for the justice system.

The problem with Anil is he is not a political savvy person like Jagdeo who knows how to maneuver himself as a leader. He does not have a strong support in the PPP Central Committee,

Then...there is that Kaieteur News tape..

Guyana, and the PPP, must do better...we need a new class of leaders who are above the fray.

Au contraire.  Anil is one of the smartest people in Guyana right now. Based on that comment you made about the Central Committee, I can tell that you know absolutely nothing about what goes on in the PPP party.

He would have to compete against big guns like Texeira, Rohee, Ramotar, etc. He is a brilliant legal mind, not a politically savvy guy...based on what I know of him.

Rohee and Ramotar are not big guns.  One lost an election.  The other is preaching Marxism all day.

VishMahabir posted:
Nehru posted:
VishMahabir posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Looks like there is hope for the justice system.

The problem with Anil is he is not a political savvy person like Jagdeo who knows how to maneuver himself as a leader. He does not have a strong support in the PPP Central Committee,

Then...there is that Kaieteur News tape..

Guyana, and the PPP, must do better...we need a new class of leaders who are above the fray.

Wait, you cant ask a man if he Knack ah thing anymore?)):

Not if he is being audio taped for public consumption...some things are better left in private

You think he knew he was being taped??)::

VishMahabir posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
VishMahabir posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Looks like there is hope for the justice system.

The problem with Anil is he is not a political savvy person like Jagdeo who knows how to maneuver himself as a leader. He does not have a strong support in the PPP Central Committee,

Then...there is that Kaieteur News tape..

Guyana, and the PPP, must do better...we need a new class of leaders who are above the fray.

Au contraire.  Anil is one of the smartest people in Guyana right now. Based on that comment you made about the Central Committee, I can tell that you know absolutely nothing about what goes on in the PPP party.

He would have to compete against big guns like Texeira, Rohee, Ramotar, etc. He is a brilliant legal mind, not a politically savvy guy...based on what I know of him.

VishMahabir posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
VishMahabir posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Looks like there is hope for the justice system.

The problem with Anil is he is not a political savvy person like Jagdeo who knows how to maneuver himself as a leader. He does not have a strong support in the PPP Central Committee,

Then...there is that Kaieteur News tape..

Guyana, and the PPP, must do better...we need a new class of leaders who are above the fray.

Au contraire.  Anil is one of the smartest people in Guyana right now. Based on that comment you made about the Central Committee, I can tell that you know absolutely nothing about what goes on in the PPP party.

He would have to compete against big guns like Texeira, Rohee, Ramotar, etc. He is a brilliant legal mind, not a politically savvy guy...based on what I know of him.

You know very little of Anil Nandalall. The others you cite are PNC people in PPP clothing. Ramoutar, when in power, allowed Granger to run Guyana for him. Gail ran to the US Embassy and complained to the about what was happening in her Ministry and the PPP. Rohee allowed the Police Force to undermine his Ministry. Know your politics before posting stupidness.

Hahahaaa Ramtar and Rohee is PNC. Dondada you doan think both ah dem just stupidy?

BJ's hands were stuck up puppet Ramtar's batty while according to some of what I read, Rohee knew absolutely nothing more than how fo hang round cinemas an' tief bicycle. As for Gail that was strange how she snitched on dem guys and yet kept in the PPP.

Nehru posted:
VishMahabir posted:
Nehru posted:
VishMahabir posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Looks like there is hope for the justice system.

The problem with Anil is he is not a political savvy person like Jagdeo who knows how to maneuver himself as a leader. He does not have a strong support in the PPP Central Committee,

Then...there is that Kaieteur News tape..

Guyana, and the PPP, must do better...we need a new class of leaders who are above the fray.

Wait, you cant ask a man if he Knack ah thing anymore?)):

Not if he is being audio taped for public consumption...some things are better left in private

You think he knew he was being taped??)::

Nehru, let us admit it, Anil should never think that Journalists are his friends. He made a mistake and should be forgiven. He has a brilliant legal mind and he is not a racist. I hope BJ exits the PPP political scene and that Anil run for the Preidency of Guyana. New blood is needed.

 

Dondadda posted:
VishMahabir posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
VishMahabir posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Looks like there is hope for the justice system.

The problem with Anil is he is not a political savvy person like Jagdeo who knows how to maneuver himself as a leader. He does not have a strong support in the PPP Central Committee,

Then...there is that Kaieteur News tape..

Guyana, and the PPP, must do better...we need a new class of leaders who are above the fray.

Au contraire.  Anil is one of the smartest people in Guyana right now. Based on that comment you made about the Central Committee, I can tell that you know absolutely nothing about what goes on in the PPP party.

He would have to compete against big guns like Texeira, Rohee, Ramotar, etc. He is a brilliant legal mind, not a politically savvy guy...based on what I know of him.

VishMahabir posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
VishMahabir posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Looks like there is hope for the justice system.

The problem with Anil is he is not a political savvy person like Jagdeo who knows how to maneuver himself as a leader. He does not have a strong support in the PPP Central Committee,

Then...there is that Kaieteur News tape..

Guyana, and the PPP, must do better...we need a new class of leaders who are above the fray.

Au contraire.  Anil is one of the smartest people in Guyana right now. Based on that comment you made about the Central Committee, I can tell that you know absolutely nothing about what goes on in the PPP party.

He would have to compete against big guns like Texeira, Rohee, Ramotar, etc. He is a brilliant legal mind, not a politically savvy guy...based on what I know of him.

You know very little of Anil Nandalall. The others you cite are PNC people in PPP clothing. Ramoutar, when in power, allowed Granger to run Guyana for him. Gail ran to the US Embassy and complained to the about what was happening in her Ministry and the PPP. Rohee allowed the Police Force to undermine his Ministry. Know your politics before posting stupidness.

Yes, I know very little about Anil. However, If Anil is the best there is, then the PPP does not have much to offer as an alternative to the coalition. The coalition will polish themselves come 2020, with the tacit support of the ABCs. Plus they will have the oil money to boot.

All I am saying is that you are seeing Anil Nandalall in the legal world. We don’t know if he can become the “political animal” to take on all the other PPP members who ALL see themselves as leaders of the PPP, and the country. Unless you know him better than the rest of us…Being a good lawyer is no guarantee that Nandalall will become an effective politician..Look at other Indian lawyers-turned-politician …Panday and Kamla in Trinidad. (Anil does not have grass roots support (maybe he can build it in the future).

 

Lets consider your statements below:

  1. Ramoutar, when in power, allowed Granger to run Guyana for him
  2. Gail ran to the US Embassy and complained
  3. Rohee allowed the Police Force to undermine his Ministry

Ironically, these statements you offer only confirm the weakness of the PPP…they know how to win election with a comfortable majority on their side…but they don’t know how to maintain power.

But…Lets extend this timeline you offer, although much of what you are saying above is questionable…

  1. Janet Jagan was forced to give up 2 years of her Presidency
  2. Jagan was in the wilderness for 28 years…an ineffective politician (for domestic and international reasons).
  3. The PPP claimed rigging in GT, but what are they doing about it?

 

Is Anil willing and capable of taking on a more aggressive and determined PNC machinery, whose hard core members feel that the PPP should not be allowed to govern Guyana again?

Anil, like most PPP members will not take on the more aggressive approach to match the PNC’s…trust me they will adopt the legal approach, rather than the necessary political approach to making everyone feel that Guyana belongs to all Guyanese because that is Anil at his best. So, coolies will be able to boast about having a brilliant lawyer, but not being able to overcome the hurdles created by the PNC.

When you speak of Anil needing a more aggressive approach to deal with the PNC, are you speaking of clashing swords?  If you have been paying attention to the role of the Opposition since 2015, you may have noticed that Anil is one of the fiercest politicians in Guyana right now.  Anil and BJ have been calling out the coalition on all the corruption they have practiced so far.

I am going to chalk this one up to you NOT knowing politics and politicians in Guyana.

Bibi Haniffa posted:

When you speak of Anil needing a more aggressive approach to deal with the PNC, are you speaking of clashing swords?  If you have been paying attention to the role of the Opposition since 2015, you may have noticed that Anil is one of the fiercest politicians in Guyana right now.  Anil and BJ have been calling out the coalition on all the corruption they have practiced so far.

I am going to chalk this one up to you NOT knowing politics and politicians in Guyana.

Again, we have to separate the politician from the lawyer. 

If the PPP is faced with a rigged election in 2020, is Anil going to lead the marches in GT and be willing to face the brunt of the PNC, or is he going be morally indignant and tell the PPP supporters to wait for the courts to decide on the issue???

I am saying to you that he will opt for the lawyer option...so the PPP  might be looking at a long term exclusion from political power. Jagan has not taught PPP members otherwise...he let the PNC and Burnham ride roughshod over him for 28 years. Rodney did a much better job at shaking up the PNC. 

As of now, I do not see a rising star in the PPP (except Jagdeo, but he has too much baggage) who is capable of taking on the PNC. Anil is good at being a lawyer, but like I said, being a good lawyer does not automatically make a person an effective politician.

yuji22 posted:

Anil put the culprit Glen Lall in his place. Dem boys forgot very easily.

He ain't no pushover and can take down the entire AFC/PNC clowns.

Anil, is like many other Indos I know. They only like to talk tough and big with other Indians. That explains his behavior with KN and Glen Lall.

Let him put on his political robe and challenge the PNC...lets see if he can pull that kind of threats against any of the PNC leaders. 

Sorry to burst your bubble. 

VishMahabir posted:
yuji22 posted:

Anil put the culprit Glen Lall in his place. Dem boys forgot very easily.

He ain't no pushover and can take down the entire AFC/PNC clowns.

Anil, is like many other Indos I know. They only like to talk tough and big with other Indians. That explains his behavior with KN and Glen Lall.

Let him put on his political robe and challenge the PNC...lets see if he can pull that kind of threats against any of the PNC leaders. 

Sorry to burst your bubble. 

Bai Vish.

The man is taking the ENTIRE PNC to task at the courts without fear. You need to buy a pair of glasses.

Bibi Haniffa posted:

Anil is going to be the President of Guyana one day.

Dondadda posted:
Nehru posted:
VishMahabir posted:
Nehru posted:
VishMahabir posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

Looks like there is hope for the justice system.

The problem with Anil is he is not a political savvy person like Jagdeo who knows how to maneuver himself as a leader. He does not have a strong support in the PPP Central Committee,

Then...there is that Kaieteur News tape..

Guyana, and the PPP, must do better...we need a new class of leaders who are above the fray.

Wait, you cant ask a man if he Knack ah thing anymore?)):

Not if he is being audio taped for public consumption...some things are better left in private

You think he knew he was being taped??)::

Nehru, let us admit it, Anil should never think that Journalists are his friends. He made a mistake and should be forgiven. He has a brilliant legal mind and he is not a racist. I hope BJ exits the PPP political scene and that Anil run for the Preidency of Guyana. New blood is needed.

 

Anil is arrogant and does not know how to connect with the lower echelons of the party.  For me, he blew it when the tape was revealed because we got a glimpse of what he really is.

yuji22 posted:
VishMahabir posted:
yuji22 posted:

Anil put the culprit Glen Lall in his place. Dem boys forgot very easily.

He ain't no pushover and can take down the entire AFC/PNC clowns.

Anil, is like many other Indos I know. They only like to talk tough and big with other Indians. That explains his behavior with KN and Glen Lall.

Let him put on his political robe and challenge the PNC...lets see if he can pull that kind of threats against any of the PNC leaders. 

Sorry to burst your bubble. 

Bai Vish.

The man is taking the ENTIRE PNC to task at the courts without fear. You need to buy a pair of glasses.

All dem coolies like to play safe politics...fighting legally is their thing...they never take risks. The same thing happen after the Fijians took over Parliament and ousted the democratically elected government out of office.   

VishMahabir posted:
yuji22 posted:
VishMahabir posted:
yuji22 posted:

Anil put the culprit Glen Lall in his place. Dem boys forgot very easily.

He ain't no pushover and can take down the entire AFC/PNC clowns.

Anil, is like many other Indos I know. They only like to talk tough and big with other Indians. That explains his behavior with KN and Glen Lall.

Let him put on his political robe and challenge the PNC...lets see if he can pull that kind of threats against any of the PNC leaders. 

Sorry to burst your bubble. 

Bai Vish.

The man is taking the ENTIRE PNC to task at the courts without fear. You need to buy a pair of glasses.

All dem coolies like to play safe politics...fighting legally is their thing...they never take risks. The same thing happen after the Fijians took over Parliament and ousted the democratically elected government out of office.   

So why don't you show up with your AK 47s and get the ball rolling.  

VishMahabir posted:
yuji22 posted:
VishMahabir posted:
yuji22 posted:

Anil put the culprit Glen Lall in his place. Dem boys forgot very easily.

He ain't no pushover and can take down the entire AFC/PNC clowns.

Anil, is like many other Indos I know. They only like to talk tough and big with other Indians. That explains his behavior with KN and Glen Lall.

Let him put on his political robe and challenge the PNC...lets see if he can pull that kind of threats against any of the PNC leaders. 

Sorry to burst your bubble. 

Bai Vish.

The man is taking the ENTIRE PNC to task at the courts without fear. You need to buy a pair of glasses.

All dem coolies like to play safe politics...fighting legally is their thing...they never take risks. The same thing happen after the Fijians took over Parliament and ousted the democratically elected government out of office.   

So you support the use of force to fight/ ousted  a government. 

Make sure you rass don’t run for a political office , your choice of words on this forum can come back to haunt you. 

 

Nehru posted:

BJ leaving the Political scene will NOT benefit Guyana. He is a valuable asset. Should he run again?  HELL NO!!

I think BJ needs to stay out of the political scene even if for a short while. Long enough for the PPP to regain footing and credibility. As long as he is around, the PPP supporters who turned away from the PPP will stay away. He has created a lot of distrust. I am a little curious about that statement above though. Aren't you the one who said he is the real president, the only one who can save Guyana and how much of a paradise Guyana was under him? You actually equated him to a god. Why should he not run then?

GTAngler posted:
Nehru posted:

BJ leaving the Political scene will NOT benefit Guyana. He is a valuable asset. Should he run again?  HELL NO!!

..........I am a little curious about that statement above though. Aren't you the one who said he is the real president, the only one who can save Guyana and how much of a paradise Guyana was under him? You actually equated him to a god. Why should he not run then?

You caught him there. Now we can plainly see who the real Shithead is.

GTAngler posted:
Nehru posted:

BJ leaving the Political scene will NOT benefit Guyana. He is a valuable asset. Should he run again?  HELL NO!!

I think BJ needs to stay out of the political scene even if for a short while. Long enough for the PPP to regain footing and credibility. As long as he is around, the PPP supporters who turned away from the PPP will stay away. He has created a lot of distrust. I am a little curious about that statement above though. Aren't you the one who said he is the real president, the only one who can save Guyana and how much of a paradise Guyana was under him? You actually equated him to a god. Why should he not run then?

I think BJ is the only one in GY who poses a challenge to Granger and Harmon.

GTAngler posted:
Nehru posted:

BJ leaving the Political scene will NOT benefit Guyana. He is a valuable asset. Should he run again?  HELL NO!!

I think BJ needs to stay out of the political scene even if for a short while. Long enough for the PPP to regain footing and credibility. As long as he is around, the PPP supporters who turned away from the PPP will stay away. He has created a lot of distrust. I am a little curious about that statement above though. Aren't you the one who said he is the real president, the only one who can save Guyana and how much of a paradise Guyana was under him? You actually equated him to a god. Why should he not run then?

Nehru is a true believer in democracy.  So he is willing to give those who cannot hold a candle to BJ a chance to run the country.  Like how Ramotar was given a chance to run the country.  And now we end up with Shitheads.

In our Guyanese ways we always prefer to perish because of jealousy.  Cut you nose and spoil you face is a Guyanese motto.

Dave posted:
VishMahabir posted:
yuji22 posted:
VishMahabir posted:
yuji22 posted:

Anil put the culprit Glen Lall in his place. Dem boys forgot very easily.

He ain't no pushover and can take down the entire AFC/PNC clowns.

Anil, is like many other Indos I know. They only like to talk tough and big with other Indians. That explains his behavior with KN and Glen Lall.

Let him put on his political robe and challenge the PNC...lets see if he can pull that kind of threats against any of the PNC leaders. 

Sorry to burst your bubble. 

Bai Vish.

The man is taking the ENTIRE PNC to task at the courts without fear. You need to buy a pair of glasses.

All dem coolies like to play safe politics...fighting legally is their thing...they never take risks. The same thing happen after the Fijians took over Parliament and ousted the democratically elected government out of office.   

So you support the use of force to fight/ ousted  a government. 

Make sure you rass don’t run for a political office , your choice of words on this forum can come back to haunt you. 

 

Not force. But no coolie will ever get respect when they allow a dictator to run wild for 28 years. 

Sometimes force is necessary, ask Rodney.

You think BJ and Anil will think like that?

Bibi Haniffa posted:
GTAngler posted:
Nehru posted:

BJ leaving the Political scene will NOT benefit Guyana. He is a valuable asset. Should he run again?  HELL NO!!

I think BJ needs to stay out of the political scene even if for a short while. Long enough for the PPP to regain footing and credibility. As long as he is around, the PPP supporters who turned away from the PPP will stay away. He has created a lot of distrust. I am a little curious about that statement above though. Aren't you the one who said he is the real president, the only one who can save Guyana and how much of a paradise Guyana was under him? You actually equated him to a god. Why should he not run then?

Nehru is a true believer in democracy.  So he is willing to give those who cannot hold a candle to BJ a chance to run the country.  Like how Ramotar was given a chance to run the country.  And now we end up with Shitheads.

In our Guyanese ways we always prefer to perish because of jealousy.  Cut you nose and spoil you face is a Guyanese motto.

You do exactly that, exquisite and pretty Bibi Haniffa ?   

VishMahabir posted:
Dave posted:
VishMahabir posted:
yuji22 posted:
VishMahabir posted:
yuji22 posted:

Anil put the culprit Glen Lall in his place. Dem boys forgot very easily.

He ain't no pushover and can take down the entire AFC/PNC clowns.

Anil, is like many other Indos I know. They only like to talk tough and big with other Indians. That explains his behavior with KN and Glen Lall.

Let him put on his political robe and challenge the PNC...lets see if he can pull that kind of threats against any of the PNC leaders. 

Sorry to burst your bubble. 

Bai Vish.

The man is taking the ENTIRE PNC to task at the courts without fear. You need to buy a pair of glasses.

All dem coolies like to play safe politics...fighting legally is their thing...they never take risks. The same thing happen after the Fijians took over Parliament and ousted the democratically elected government out of office.   

So you support the use of force to fight/ ousted  a government. 

Make sure you rass don’t run for a political office , your choice of words on this forum can come back to haunt you. 

 

Not force. But no coolie will ever get respect when they allow a dictator to run wild for 28 years. 

Sometimes force is necessary, ask Rodney.

You think BJ and Anil will think like that?

Ask Rodney?  About what force?  Maybe you didn't hear, but dem blow his brains out when he talk against dem.  

skeldon_man posted:
GTAngler posted:
Nehru posted:

BJ leaving the Political scene will NOT benefit Guyana. He is a valuable asset. Should he run again?  HELL NO!!

I think BJ needs to stay out of the political scene even if for a short while. Long enough for the PPP to regain footing and credibility. As long as he is around, the PPP supporters who turned away from the PPP will stay away. He has created a lot of distrust. I am a little curious about that statement above though. Aren't you the one who said he is the real president, the only one who can save Guyana and how much of a paradise Guyana was under him? You actually equated him to a god. Why should he not run then?

I think BJ is the only one in GY who poses a challenge to Granger and Harmon.

Exactly. I may add the entire PNC. He is the first Indo to give PNC criminals Belly wuk, they are crying to this day.

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