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D2 posted:
ronan posted:
D2 posted:
 

she is a graduate of the Dip. Pharmacy program at UG

How does t hat compare to here if it is a four year degree ( I assume there are no two year degrees there) She would have to do a shit load of science and math.

it's called a Dip. program not a Bachelors for a reason

what exactly are we arguing here?

FM
ronan posted:
D2 posted:
ronan posted:
D2 posted:
 

she is a graduate of the Dip. Pharmacy program at UG

How does t hat compare to here if it is a four year degree ( I assume there are no two year degrees there) She would have to do a shit load of science and math.

it's called a Dip. program not a Bachelors for a reason

what exactly are we arguing here?

The common assertion that she is an idiot being projected from the rafters by the PPP and others including  you who said she was not bright. Pharmacy is a five year program in US university. Are you saying she has a diploma akin to that of a certification to work as a Pharmacist helper? Note, the title she is given is that of "Pharmacist". 

FM
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D2 posted:
ronan posted:
D2 posted:
ronan posted:
D2 posted:
 

she is a graduate of the Dip. Pharmacy program at UG

How does t hat compare to here if it is a four year degree ( I assume there are no two year degrees there) She would have to do a shit load of science and math.

it's called a Dip. program not a Bachelors for a reason

what exactly are we arguing here?

The common assertion that she is an idiot being projected from the rafters by the PPP and others including  you who said she was not bright. Pharmacy is a five year program in US university. Are you saying she has a diploma akin to that of a certification to work as a Pharmacist helper? 

i don't know what "she is not bright" means in this context

i called her a "mediocrity" because i feel she is a square peg in a position she is clearly unqualified for

i use that term a lot, but not because i feel that the target is an "idiot"

and this silly scratching of yours to convert a UG Diploma program to a 5-year US Bachelors degree while mumbling stupidly about "a shit load of science and math" is altogether baffling and pitiful all at the same time . . . it doesn't matter

to what end banna?

FM
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ronan posted:
D2 posted:
ronan posted:
D2 posted:
ronan posted:
D2 posted:
 

she is a graduate of the Dip. Pharmacy program at UG

How does t hat compare to here if it is a four year degree ( I assume there are no two year degrees there) She would have to do a shit load of science and math.

it's called a Dip. program not a Bachelors for a reason

what exactly are we arguing here?

The common assertion that she is an idiot being projected from the rafters by the PPP and others including  you who said she was not bright. Pharmacy is a five year program in US university. Are you saying she has a diploma akin to that of a certification to work as a Pharmacist helper? 

i don't know what "she is not bright" means in this context

i called her a "mediocrity" because i feel she is a square peg in a position she is clearly unqualified for

i use that term a lot, but not because i feel that the target is an "idiot"

and this silly scratching of yours to convert a UG Diploma program to a 5-year US Bachelors degree while mumbling stupidly about "a shit load of science and math" is altogether baffling and pitiful all at the same time . . . it doesn't matter

to what end banna?

You are truly a hard in the head. I did not call her a pharmacist. Do they call people who are pharmacist helpers by qualification Pharmacists in Guyana or is t he government trying to pass one off on us?

My confusion is we are usually strict with our words. You are a pharmacist if you went through a degree in pharmacy. If you have you cannot be deemed mediocre or an idiot by a long shot. 

It matters because there is a posting here about Ifart here with similar accusations? Is this a habit of government ministers to fake first degrees and use their positions to catapult t hem to advance degree programs on the people's dime? 

FM
D2 posted:
ronan posted:
D2 posted:
ronan posted:
D2 posted:
ronan posted:
D2 posted:
 

she is a graduate of the Dip. Pharmacy program at UG

How does t hat compare to here if it is a four year degree ( I assume there are no two year degrees there) She would have to do a shit load of science and math.

it's called a Dip. program not a Bachelors for a reason

what exactly are we arguing here?

The common assertion that she is an idiot being projected from the rafters by the PPP and others including  you who said she was not bright. Pharmacy is a five year program in US university. Are you saying she has a diploma akin to that of a certification to work as a Pharmacist helper? 

i don't know what "she is not bright" means in this context

i called her a "mediocrity" because i feel she is a square peg in a position she is clearly unqualified for

i use that term a lot, but not because i feel that the target is an "idiot"

and this silly scratching of yours to convert a UG Diploma program to a 5-year US Bachelors degree while mumbling stupidly about "a shit load of science and math" is altogether baffling and pitiful all at the same time . . . it doesn't matter

to what end banna?

You are truly a hard in the head. I did not call her a pharmacist. Do they call people who are pharmacist helpers by qualification Pharmacists in Guyana or is t he government trying to pass one off on us?

i never claimed you did

focus banna

FM
ronan posted:
 

You are truly a hard in the head. I did not call her a pharmacist. Do they call people who are pharmacist helpers by qualification Pharmacists in Guyana or is t he government trying to pass one off on us?

i never claimed you did

focus banna

There is a link above to an official bio of her where she was said to be a pharmacist. 

"Minister Henry’s life story epitomizes the extraordinary power of education. In her early years, she attended Berbice High School and New Amsterdam Multilateral and later advanced in her studies and is now a Pharmacist with a Master’s in Public Health."

I presume she advanced in her studies in an undergraduate program to be Pharmacist.

FM
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D2 posted:
ronan posted:
 

You are truly a hard in the head. I did not call her a pharmacist. Do they call people who are pharmacist helpers by qualification Pharmacists in Guyana or is t he government trying to pass one off on us?

i never claimed you did

focus banna

There is a link above to a bio of her where she was said to be a pharmacist. 

so, she is . . . i never disputed that

in Guyana, anyone who graduates from the UG Diploma program is properly called a Pharmacist

what's your point?

FM
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ronan posted:
D2 posted:
ronan posted:
 

You are truly a hard in the head. I did not call her a pharmacist. Do they call people who are pharmacist helpers by qualification Pharmacists in Guyana or is t he government trying to pass one off on us?

i never claimed you did

focus banna

There is a link above to a bio of her where she was said to be a pharmacist. 

so, she is . . . i never disputed that

what's your point?

The  point is simple...either she has a diploma hence is a pharmacist helper and not a pharmacist or she is a pharmacist hence completed a first degree ( is bright) and went on to do a masters in public health...she obviously has a first degree somewhere there in there  or somebody is lying.

FM
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D2 posted:
ronan posted:
D2 posted:
ronan posted:
 

You are truly a hard in the head. I did not call her a pharmacist. Do they call people who are pharmacist helpers by qualification Pharmacists in Guyana or is t he government trying to pass one off on us?

i never claimed you did

focus banna

There is a link above to a bio of her where she was said to be a pharmacist. 

so, she is . . . i never disputed that

what's your point?

The  point is simple...either she has a diploma hence is a pharmacist helper and not a pharmacist or she is a pharmacist hence completed a first degree ( is bright) and went on to do a masters in public health...she obviously has a first degree somewhere there in there  or somebody is lying.

in Guyana, anyone who graduates from the UG Diploma program is properly called a Pharmacist

and it doesn't matter what other "degrees" she went on to "do"

further, the idea that completing a 1st Degree makes you "bright" simply makes me roll with laff

FM
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ronan posted:
in Guyana, anyone who graduates from the UG Diploma program is properly called a Pharmacist

and it doesn't matter what other "degrees" she went on to "do"

further, the idea that completing a 1st Degree makes you "bright" simply makes me roll with laff

Remind me to look up any drug or amount they dispense in Guyana!

Completing a first degree in Pharmacy is not for idiots. That is what I know from my university experience. Maybe where you went they were.

I do not doubt you are a barrel of laughs...you do say some funny things.

FM
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In Guyana many were called Pharmacist  and we're doing the job as a dispenser, druggist  and some were even called Doc. In the Big market I knew a young man that was a helper in the drug store and eventually he took it over, he was then called the Pharmacist. 

Unless someone show proof, only then I can say whether that person is certified as a Pharmacist. 

K
kp posted:

In Guyana many were called Pharmacist  and we're doing the job as a dispenser, druggist  and some were even called Doc. In the Big market I knew a young man that was a helper in the drug store and eventually he took it over, he was then called the Pharmacist. 

Unless someone show proof, only then I can say whether that person is certified as a Pharmacist. 

She might have been a pharmacy technician where, when the customers go to the drug store to collect their prescription, they find the package and transact the business. The Registered Pharmacist fills the prescription. In Guyana, the technician might fill the simple everyday common prescription and demand they refer to him/her as a Dr. 

FM
skeldon_man posted:
kp posted:

In Guyana many were called Pharmacist  and we're doing the job as a dispenser, druggist  and some were even called Doc. In the Big market I knew a young man that was a helper in the drug store and eventually he took it over, he was then called the Pharmacist. 

Unless someone show proof, only then I can say whether that person is certified as a Pharmacist. 

She might have been a pharmacy technician where, when the customers go to the drug store to collect their prescription, they find the package and transact the business. The Registered Pharmacist fills the prescription. In Guyana, the technician might fill the simple everyday common prescription and demand they refer to him/her as a Dr. 

the point revealed here is she has no first degree either. Patterson fired refuse to reinstate a contract of one of his commissioners because they did not, supposedly, have a first degree. This woman heads the largest ministry outside the bloated ministry of Presidency.

FM
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D2 posted:
ronan posted:
in Guyana, anyone who graduates from the UG Diploma program is properly called a Pharmacist

and it doesn't matter what other "degrees" she went on to "do"

further, the idea that completing a 1st Degree makes you "bright" simply makes me roll with laff

Completing a first degree in Pharmacy is not for idiots. That is what I know from my university experience. Maybe where you went they were.

and i couldn’t agree with you more

so, now tell us exactly which of the many jumbies in your head you are viciously fighting down on this β€˜issue’

straw man much . . . hmmmmmm?

FM
D2 posted:
skeldon_man posted:
kp posted:

In Guyana many were called Pharmacist  and we're doing the job as a dispenser, druggist  and some were even called Doc. In the Big market I knew a young man that was a helper in the drug store and eventually he took it over, he was then called the Pharmacist. 

Unless someone show proof, only then I can say whether that person is certified as a Pharmacist. 

She might have been a pharmacy technician where, when the customers go to the drug store to collect their prescription, they find the package and transact the business. The Registered Pharmacist fills the prescription. In Guyana, the technician might fill the simple everyday common prescription and demand they refer to him/her as a Dr. 

the point revealed here is she has no first degree either. Patterson fired refuse to reinstate a contract of one of his commissioners because they did not, supposedly, have a first degree. This woman heads the largest ministry outside the bloated ministry of Presidency.

after posting shyte all over the thread based on ignorance of the topic, you compound it by bashing the UG Pharmacy program of which you know NOTHING

you now then pivot 180 degrees and affirm that the minister has no 1st degree

just goes to show the idleness of many prolific posting here

smh

FM
ronan posted:

after posting shyte all over the thread based on ignorance of the topic, you compound it by bashing the UG Pharmacy program of which you know NOTHING

you now then pivot 180 degrees and affirm that the minister has no 1st degree

just goes to show the idleness of many prolific posting here

smh

Ignorance of what? You never are organized  in your thinking or writing yet  you are quick to say others are missing "something". The reality is you are missing a lot since you could see I simply got to where I am from independent sources including you.

I started clarifying an anomaly. Everyone said the lady was a dingbat. Even you called her mediocre. My position was how could that! She was a pharmacist according to her official Ministry of Education Bio.

You said she had a diploma and ranted that I am over stating the gravity of her studies.  I never put down the UG pharmacy department because I do not know what the hell the curricula entails. You said it was not the same as a 5 year pharmacy degree.

I am wondering about her first degree since I do not see any other accomplishment to that end if the pharmacy one is not it. You need to get your addled brain together and do not presume you know more  you present as. You end up looking like your close  kin is a mule.

FM
D2 posted:
ronan posted:

after posting shyte all over the thread based on ignorance of the topic, you compound it by bashing the UG Pharmacy program of which you know NOTHING

you now then pivot 180 degrees and affirm that the minister has no 1st degree

just goes to show the idleness of many prolific posting here

smh

You said she had a diploma and ranted that I am over stating the gravity of her studies.  I never put down the UG pharmacy department because I do not know what the hell the curricula entails. You said it was not the same as a 5 year pharmacy degree.

you need to stop lying

pointing out that you are WRONG on the facts regarding her Pharmacy qualifications has nothing to do with any issue of β€œoverstating the gravity of  her studies” . . . that’s all made up in your head

further, what on earth is β€œremind me to look up any drug or amount they dispense in Guyana” from you if NOT a β€œput down” of the UG pharmacy department?

yes, especially since you admit that you β€œdo not know what the hell the curricula entails”

you are deceitful . . . and confused

FM
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No wonder Guyana is all ***ked up....if the degree she pursued a Bachelor's degree in pharmacy...UG or US she cannot be a dummy or by your estimation mediocre. I do not know that the UG program entails but what ever it is it cannot be completed by simply being mediocre....my point.

Nothing conceited, deceitful or otherwise ever affirmed by me. I actually presumed it was a US university so your suggestion of a UG put down is your sense of displacement. You seem to have an overwhelming inferiority complex that every nugget of information questioned causes you to go into convulsions. That only happens with nits. 

FM
D2 posted:

No wonder Guyana is all ***ked up....if the degree she pursued a Bachelor's degree in pharmacy...UG or US she cannot be a dummy or by your estimation mediocre. I do not know that the UG program entails but what ever it is it cannot be completed by simply being mediocre....my point.

Nothing conceited, deceitful or otherwise ever affirmed by me. I actually presumed it was a US university so your suggestion of a UG put down is your sense of displacement. You seem to have an overwhelming inferiority complex that every nugget of information questioned causes you to go into convulsions. That only happens with nits. 

you lie and continue to lie . . . and i will not let you forget it

your bs huffing and displaced cover up bluffings notwithstanding

FM
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ronan posted:
D2 posted:

No wonder Guyana is all ***ked up....if the degree she pursued a Bachelor's degree in pharmacy...UG or US she cannot be a dummy or by your estimation mediocre. I do not know that the UG program entails but what ever it is it cannot be completed by simply being mediocre....my point.

Nothing conceited, deceitful or otherwise ever affirmed by me. I actually presumed it was a US university so your suggestion of a UG put down is your sense of displacement. You seem to have an overwhelming inferiority complex that every nugget of information questioned causes you to go into convulsions. That only happens with nits. 

you lie and continue to lie . . . and i will not let you forget it

your bs huffing and displaced cover up bluffings notwithstanding

The thread is above....to lie one has to have a motive...I have none.  You just cannot get your arguments in order plus your reliance on novice put downs reminds me of old BBS days.

FM

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada...dence-vote-1.4977969

Guyanese MP flees to Toronto after receiving death threats for voting against his own government

 

Guyanese-Canadian Charrandas Persaud says he was threatened with death after no-confidence vote

 
Guyanese-Canadian Charrandas Persaud flew to Canada in fear for his life after voting against his own coalition government in Guyana's Parliament. (Lisa Xing/CBC)

Charrandas Persaud has been trying to keep a low profile in Toronto. But it's tough.

Everywhere he goes, folks in the Guyanese community either want to shake his hand and take a photo with him, or tell him he's a traitor to his country. 

In fact, Persaud may very well be the most recognized and talked about man among Guyanese everywhere right now. 

The Canadian was serving as a member of parliament in Guyana, an English-speaking country just east of Venezuela, until shortly before Christmas.

On Dec. 21, the MP set off a political firestorm when he made the unprecedented move of voting against his own government in a no-confidence motion tabled by the opposition, effectively triggering an early election.

The reaction that ensued speaks for itself: 

CBC News Toronto
The moment a Guyanese MP voted against his own government
Guyanese MP Charrandas Persaud caused a political storm after he voted against his own government in a no-confidence motion tabled by the opposition. 0:43

After the confusion died down, the vote was conducted again. Persaud's response: "Yes. Yes. Yes."

The 66-year-old said he made the move because he believes the government hasn't been focusing on developing the country or creating jobs. 

But because the government β€” a coalition between A Partnership for National Unity (APNU) and the Alliance for Change (AFC) β€” won the 2015 election by just one seat, Persaud's vote in the no-confidence motion tabled by the opposing People's Progressive Party (PPP) passed by a margin of 33-32. 

"I was not very calm," said Persaud, who was elected as an AFC MP. "I was frozen." 

'It was not an idle threat'

Persaud, who was expelled from his party over his vote, said he was terrified for his own safety because of Guyana's history of political assassinations. Because of that, he said the only person he talked to about his intention was the man he asked to provide some security for him in the gallery in case he was "jumped." 

"I cried all night [the night before the vote]," he said, thinking he would die.

That feeling only got stronger after the vote when he said another MP told him he would be dead that night. 

"It was not an idle threat I entertained." 

Persaud said he was even prepared to use his water carafe as a weapon should he be attacked. He said he was lucky nothing happened, adding that modern technology probably saved him. 

"Thank God for the advent of cellphones. Too many people were watching internationally and locally." 

He didn't take any chances, though. After the sitting, Persaud went directly to the Canadian High Commission in Georgetown, the capital of Guyana.

 The next morning, he flew to Barbados and then on to Toronto. 

'Everyone knows me'

Persaud is no stranger to Canada's largest city. He moved to Canada from Guyana in the late 1970s and studied at the University of Toronto, eventually getting his real estate licence. He went back Guyana in 1999 to practise law and eventually got into politics. 

He's now returning to Canada, not as a political backbencher, but as the most talked-about politician of the day. Guyanese Canadians all know him, whether they like him or not. 

"My face is something I cannot hide anymore," he said. "Everyone knows me." 

 
The Guyanese community is divided in its opinion of Persaud. Derick Ackloo supports him. (Lisa Xing/CBC)

In fact, Persaud's actions that day in Parliament sparked a fierce debate in Toronto's Guyanese community, and ignited political tension steeped in longstanding racial divisions.

Many Indo-Guyanese, who form the majority of MPs in the opposition PPP, support Persaud's vote, while many of the Afro-Guyanese population condemn it. That conversation is buzzing through the Guyanese-Canadian community.

"The diaspora is as divided as the country, as the folks in Guyana, in terms of race, in terms of politics," said Derick Ackloo, a friend and supporter of Persaud.

"But, I believe what he did was from the heart." 

Others, including Carwyn Holland, a former Guyanese mayor and current president of the Guyana Association of Municipalities, have major concerns.

He likened the vote to a "bloodless coup." 

 
Carwyn Holland, a former mayor in Guyana, disagrees with Persaud's actions in the Guyanese Parliament.(Lisa Xing/CBC)

"I believe the party leaders were betrayed, the Parliament was betrayed and I believe that the people of Guyana were betrayed," he said. 

Persaud said he's disappointed in the performance of his government but Holland argues the APNU-AFC has been effectively delivering services across the country. 

Holland said there are international ramifications if other countries see political tension as a way to capitalize on oil reserves that Exxon Mobil started finding there in 2015. Those reserves have been making headlines around the world in recent months as oil giant Exxon increased estimates around the size and potential value of the find.

"Many persons want to get their hands on it, and I believe this is an opportune time for them to get involved," he said. 

 

Persaud, meanwhile, is waiting for the election and the subsequent results to map out his next steps. There's no timeline because the government filed a court action challenging the no-confidence vote count.

He's not ruling out making a return trip, and possibly forming his own political party once the heat dies down a bit.

As he waits in Toronto, he said he doesn't regret what he did.

"I had to speak out."

FM

When the Speaker announced that he was going to start over the count from the beginning of the government side, the PPP MPs erupted in very strong protests. That indicates that they were not sure that Charrandas Persaud would again vote yes. If he was bribed to vote yes, they would have been comfortable even if the government had gotten their two minutes time out.

FM

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