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@Totaram posted:

Guess you missed the joke.  But seriously don't say it is a myth because there is a Swami in Guyana with lots of followers who would say that is sacrilegious. Is there a Hindu equivalent of a fatwa? I believe Lord Krishna is cool.  I read somewhere that he had 8 wives.  Lots of people believe in Him and I respect their beliefs.  I like going to pujas and singing bhajans.  I haven't been to Mathura but saw a sign for it on the road from Delhi to Agra.   

I'm irreligious and scorn Swamis who take advantage of superstitious  people! I'm unafraid of God, though I believe there IS a God (See John 4: 24)! Should I be afraid of man? ALL is experience, whether personally acceptable or unacceptable! And ALL experiences pass away into memory!

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@shallyv posted:

I'm irreligious and scorn Swamis who take advantage of superstitious  people! I'm unafraid of God, though I believe there IS a God (See John 4: 24)! Should I be afraid of man? ALL is experience, whether personally acceptable or unacceptable! And ALL experiences pass away into memory!

I don't know what John 4:24 says but let me ask you this. Since you believe there is "A" god and you quote I am assuming from the Bible, are you saying that unless everyone believes in that God they have no God? Another question, your God created you. Who created everyone else? You don't have to believe in someone else's religion to respect their right to their beliefs. The Honourable Robert Nesta Marley was asked if he believed in the bible. His response was, "which bible?". "The one that has been translated over hundreds of years?". Do you think the scribes were all highly educated and had access to the information and tools we have now? I could go on but I think you got the gist. Before you dismiss other peoples' religion as "myth", look to your own.

@shallyv posted:

I'm irreligious and scorn Swamis who take advantage of superstitious  people! I'm unafraid of God, though I believe there IS a God (See John 4: 24)! Should I be afraid of man? ALL is experience, whether personally acceptable or unacceptable! And ALL experiences pass away into memory!

When you say that you are irreligious, are you saying that you are opposed to all religions?

Noted that you did not say you are an atheist.

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@GTAngler posted:

I don't know what John 4:24 says but let me ask you this. Since you believe there is "A" god and you quote I am assuming from the Bible, are you saying that unless everyone believes in that God they have no God? Another question, your God created you. Who created everyone else? You don't have to believe in someone else's religion to respect their right to their beliefs. The Honourable Robert Nesta Marley was asked if he believed in the bible. His response was, "which bible?". "The one that has been translated over hundreds of years?". Do you think the scribes were all highly educated and had access to the information and tools we have now? I could go on but I think you got the gist. Before you dismiss other peoples' religion as "myth", look to your own.

God is a Spirit! So are you. Allow me to explain, please! I am irreligious and consider ALL religion as nonsense! However, I believe in Jesus' definition of God as given in the Gospel according to John, Chapter 4, Verse 24: God is a Spirit, or Intangible Living Energy, out of whom ALL the intangible living energies such as us and ALL life, and ALL the tangible latent energies such as our bodies and ALL matter, come! And we, intangible living energies, realizing that we are such, and that God is the Source of our being such, we must worship God, Intangible Living Energy, by being truthful, for out of God can only come TRUTH or REALITY, not untruth or unreality! Energy is neither created nor destroyed! Whatever is, was, and will always BE! There is NO death, just a separation of the spirit or intangible living energy from its tool, tangible latent energy, the body, matter! ALL is experience, whether personally acceptable or not, whether in this physical world of matter or in the world of energy or spirit!! The only change is the choice of matter, in this world of matter, for new experiences, according to the experiences desired! Jesus NEVER started ANY religion! He taught TRUTH not religion! 'Christianity' was Paul's creation to corrupt Jesus' teachings! Better corrupt than persecute, especially when you can't find them to persecute! Paul was a Pharisee, a materialist, just like the Zionist Jews of today! Jesus spoke against the Pharisees, calling then 'children of their father' the devil (an alien! Read Exodus 30 and 31 and decide for yourself if this was God)! Paul was born before Jesus! Why didn't he persecute Jesus' followers when Jesus was alive? Because he feared Jesus' powers and the people who followed Jesus! People who hate ALL Jews are mistaken. There are thousands, maybe millions, of Jews who are against the Zionists, even in Israel! I believe that those Jews who were killed in the Holocaust were against the Zionists' plans so they left them to the criminal Nazis! The Nazis killed all they could find as they trusted NO Jew! I could tell you more but only if you're interested!

I've been informed the Vedas confirms what Jesus taught!

I hold that ALL religion is NONSENSE!

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@shallyv posted:

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God is a Spirit! So are you. Allow me to explain, please! I am irreligious and consider ALL religion as nonsense! However, I believe in Jesus' definition of God as given in the Gospel according to John, Chapter 4, Verse 24: God is a Spirit, or Intangible Living Energy, out of whom ALL the intangible living energies such as us and ALL life, and ALL the tangible latent energies such as our bodies and ALL matter, come! And we, intangible living energies, realizing that we are such, and that God is the Source of our being such, we must worship God, Intangible Living Energy, by being truthful, for out of God can only come TRUTH or REALITY, not untruth or unreality! Energy is neither created nor destroyed! Whatever is, was, and will always BE! There is NO death, just a separation of the spirit or intangible living energy from its tool, tangible latent energy, the body, matter! ALL is experience, whether personally acceptable or not, whether in this physical world of matter or in the world of energy or spirit!! The only change is the choice of matter, in this world of matter, for new experiences, according to the experiences desired! Jesus NEVER started ANY religion! He taught TRUTH not religion! 'Christianity' was Paul's creation to corrupt Jesus' teachings! Better corrupt than persecute, especially when you can't find them to persecute! Paul was a Pharisee, a materialist, just like the Zionist Jews of today! Jesus spoke against the Pharisees, calling then 'children of their father' the devil (an alien! Read Exodus 30 and 31 and decide for yourself if this was God)! Paul was born before Jesus! Why didn't he persecute Jesus' followers when Jesus was alive? Because he feared Jesus' powers and the people who followed Jesus! People who hate ALL Jews are mistaken. There are thousands, maybe millions, of Jews who are against the Zionists, even in Israel! I believe that those Jews who were killed in the Holocaust were against the Zionists' plans so they left them to the criminal Nazis! The Nazis killed all they could find as they trusted NO Jew! I could tell you more but only if you're interested!

I've been informed the Vedas confirms what Jesus taught!

I hold that ALL religion is NONSENSE!

An interesting take on your belief. Let's start with the word Religion. Religion is the belief in and worship of a higher power. Jesus was a Jewish religious leader and preacher and the central figure in Christianity. To say all religion is nonsense and at the same time say you believe in Jesus' definition of god is contradictory. Again you haven't addressed the most important issue, peoples' right to their beliefs. By the way I think you might be a little off historically. I am not Hindu but I do believe the Vedas predate Christianity and Jesus by about 1500 years. So it would be Jesus confirming what the Vedas taught.

@GTAngler posted:

An interesting take on your belief. Let's start with the word Religion. Religion is the belief in and worship of a higher power. Jesus was a Jewish religious leader and preacher and the central figure in Christianity. To say all religion is nonsense and at the same time say you believe in Jesus' definition of god is contradictory. Again you haven't addressed the most important issue, peoples' right to their beliefs. By the way I think you might be a little off historically. I am not Hindu but I do believe the Vedas predate Christianity and Jesus by about 1500 years. So it would be Jesus confirming what the Vedas taught.

YOU are here assuming that Jesus was a religious leader no doubt because you, consciously or unconsciously, believe Paul's 'Christianity' which claims Jesus as the "central figure in 'Christianity'"! How is my belief in Jesus' definition of 'God is a Spirit or Intangible Living Energy' religious? Because it is my belief? If I believe the moon was an alien's creation, is that a religious belief? Perhaps I should clarify, or, rather reiterate! ALL ORGANIZED religion is nonsense! Wherein am I denying anyone's right to their belief? YOU, otoh, are denying me my own right to MY belief! I reiterate for the benefit of your apparently befuddled thinking - Jesus taught TRUTH not religion! This he allegedly told Pilate - "I speak TRUTH"! So, you are not a Hindu! A 'Christian'? Tell me then why does Jesus use the word 'church' instead of synagogue (Matthew 16: 18) when he could foresee that Peter would deny knowing him 3 times (Matthew 26: 34, 75)? See also Matthew 10: 33! As for your comment on confirmation by the Vedas, it is stupid! Just reaching for straws! Typical pseudo-intellekchual! Are you the 'Bishop' Edghill by any chance?

@shallyv posted:

YOU are here assuming that Jesus was a religious leader no doubt because you, consciously or unconsciously, believe Paul's 'Christianity' which claims Jesus as the "central figure in 'Christianity'"! How is my belief in Jesus' definition of 'God is a Spirit or Intangible Living Energy' religious? Because it is my belief? If I believe the moon was an alien's creation, is that a religious belief? Perhaps I should clarify, or, rather reiterate! ALL ORGANIZED religion is nonsense! Wherein am I denying anyone's right to their belief? YOU, otoh, are denying me my own right to MY belief! I reiterate for the benefit of your apparently befuddled thinking - Jesus taught TRUTH not religion! This he allegedly told Pilate - "I speak TRUTH"! So, you are not a Hindu! A 'Christian'? Tell me then why does Jesus use the word 'church' instead of synagogue (Matthew 16: 18) when he could foresee that Peter would deny knowing him 3 times (Matthew 26: 34, 75)? See also Matthew 10: 33! As for your comment on confirmation by the Vedas, it is stupid! Just reaching for straws! Typical pseudo-intellekchual! Are you the 'Bishop' Edghill by any chance?

My my, you do get riled up easily. I am not Christian. However there are shared beliefs among the three religions of the book. Now, you obviously didn't read what I wrote or you didn't quite understand. I never denied your right to your beliefs. I said religion was the belief in and worship of a higher power and that you were contradicting yourself. Now that "higher power" can be one of your thinking or choosing. Believing the moon was created by aliens does not constitute a religious belief but if you wish to worship the moon as some cultures have and still do, that is your right. For someone who thinks organized religion is nonsense you seem quite verse in Christian doctrine and have no problem quoting religious text when it suits you. Another stupid comment, it's "intellectual".

@GTAngler posted:

My my, you do get riled up easily. I am not Christian. However there are shared beliefs among the three religions of the book. Now, you obviously didn't read what I wrote or you didn't quite understand. I never denied your right to your beliefs. I said religion was the belief in and worship of a higher power and that you were contradicting yourself. Now that "higher power" can be one of your thinking or choosing. Believing the moon was created by aliens does not constitute a religious belief but if you wish to worship the moon as some cultures have and still do, that is your right. For someone who thinks organized religion is nonsense you seem quite verse in Christian doctrine and have no problem quoting religious text when it suits you. Another stupid comment, it's "intellectual".

Go find some literary toilet paper and clean your 'mind'! You are nutz!

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@GTAngler posted:

I don't know what John 4:24 says but let me ask you this. Since you believe there is "A" god and you quote I am assuming from the Bible, are you saying that unless everyone believes in that God they have no God? Another question, your God created you. Who created everyone else? You don't have to believe in someone else's religion to respect their right to their beliefs. The Honourable Robert Nesta Marley was asked if he believed in the bible. His response was, "which bible?". "The one that has been translated over hundreds of years?". Do you think the scribes were all highly educated and had access to the information and tools we have now? I could go on but I think you got the gist. Before you dismiss other peoples' religion as "myth", look to your own.

There was at the time, Divine Inspirations. The Vedas speaks of things no human mind can conjure up. Written from being inspired, and the first man to be ever inspired is Enoch. All knowledge he compiled and handed it down to Noah.   

@seignet posted:

There was at the time, Divine Inspirations. The Vedas speaks of things no human mind can conjure up. Written from being inspired, and the first man to be ever inspired is Enoch. All knowledge he compiled and handed it down to Noah.   

Yeah! So it is said! Meanwhile, I refer you to Exodus 25, and ask you why this 'god' who proclaimed himself 'thy Lord and thy God' would require gold, silver, etc. for his Ark which was really his communications center? He even had them borrowing the same from their neighbour (Egyptians? Have they repaid as yet, excluding bombs, of course)! See Exodus 3: 22! Whatsa matta? Couldn't create those himself? This is the God the three 'religions', Judaism, Paul's 'Christianity' and Islam worship, the 'god' of Abe, Zaac, Jake and Moshe worshipped! Do you want me to worship this alien, too? The same that Jesus called the devil! He knows the secret of countering the effects of gravity, the main cause of ageing, which keeps pulling you down to the grave! We age from the top down! If you're young, go fk a middle-aged woman, she still wants and would appreciate a stiff one! How do you think Zionist Israel controls the US government? Your mind is fked by Zionist Israel!

@shallyv posted:

Yeah! So it is said! Meanwhile, I refer you to Exodus 25, and ask you why this 'god' who proclaimed himself 'thy Lord and thy God' would require gold, silver, etc. for his Ark which was really his communications center? He even had them borrowing the same from their neighbour (Egyptians? Have they repaid as yet, excluding bombs, of course)! See Exodus 3: 22! Whatsa matta? Couldn't create those himself? This is the God the three 'religions', Judaism, Paul's 'Christianity' and Islam worship, the 'god' of Abe, Zaac, Jake and Moshe worshipped! Do you want me to worship this alien, too? The same that Jesus called the devil! He knows the secret of countering the effects of gravity, the main cause of ageing, which keeps pulling you down to the grave! We age from the top down! If you're young, go fk a middle-aged woman, she still wants and would appreciate a stiff one! How do you think Zionist Israel controls the US government? Your mind is fked by Zionist Israel!

Jesus visited me as a spirit! If in the flesh, I wouldn't have known him and would have been alarmed! He had the scent of flowers about him and squeezed my left fibula to warn me I was  limping around on a left fibula which had been damaged again! Go read "Heaven is a Breath Away", written by an American woman about her own experience with Jesus while in a coma!

You Guyanese feel inferior to Westerners, a bunch of robotic people of whom few think for themselves! Witness this Covid19BS!

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This alien is still around, helping his chosen dupes with their plans for their New World Order! The German Nazis were brilliant people but Hitler was naive! Ever since Cromwell let the Jews back into Britain the Jews have been in control! Now, the other major English speaking countries as well!

F'ing Goyim! Cattle ALL!

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You Guyanese feel inferior to Westerners, a bunch of robotic people of whom few think for themselves! Witness this Covid19BS!

How many of the over three hundred million Americans or of the thirty one million Canadians made these two countries' marvelous inventions, skyscrapers, etc? Think! You may be poor but you can still think! You can do as well as they! Be self-reliant! Many of the great inventors or writers were also poor!

Create your own opportunities!

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@shallyv posted:

You Guyanese feel inferior to Westerners, a bunch of robotic people of whom few think for themselves! Witness this Covid19BS!

How many of the over three hundred million Americans or of the thirty one million Canadians made these two countries' marvelous inventions, skyscrapers, etc? Think! You may be poor but you can still think! You can do as well as they! Be self-reliant! Many of the great inventors or writers were also poor!

Create your own opportunities!

Beating yuh own drum.  It can be lonely.

@shallyv posted:

This alien is still around, helping his chosen dupes with their plans for their New World Order! The German Nazis were brilliant people but Hitler was naive! Ever since Cromwell let the Jews back into Britain the Jews have been in control! Now, the other major English speaking countries as well!

F'ing Goyim! Cattle ALL!

So now in addition to COVID 19 we have to worry about aliens.

@shallyv posted:

This alien is still around, helping his chosen dupes with their plans for their New World Order! The German Nazis were brilliant people but Hitler was naive! Ever since Cromwell let the Jews back into Britain the Jews have been in control! Now, the other major English speaking countries as well!

F'ing Goyim! Cattle ALL!

You are aware that goy (plural goyim) is another word for gentile meaning non-jew?  Anyway tell us more about this alien. I love the Star Wars movies. I am in the market for a lightsaber and a speeder bike. Ask your alien friend. Come to think of it I was an Alien once. Even had my own number.

@shallyv posted:

This alien is still around, helping his chosen dupes with their plans for their New World Order! The German Nazis were brilliant people but Hitler was naive! Ever since Cromwell let the Jews back into Britain the Jews have been in control! Now, the other major English speaking countries as well!

F'ing Goyim! Cattle ALL!

So now you gun tell us that they miss your head and get Walter's instead.

@GTAngler posted:

You are aware that goy (plural goyim) is another word for gentile meaning non-jew?  Anyway tell us more about this alien. I love the Star Wars movies. I am in the market for a lightsaber and a speeder bike. Ask your alien friend. Come to think of it I was an Alien once. Even had my own number.

In you Alien life, you must have met Ron Argune on social. He was also in the Star Wars.

BTW, I took two of our younger kids on a five week trip to Disney World, Guyana and the British Virgin Islands. They packed lightsabers, made from colour tubes and a flashlight. They were ghostly in the darkness of Guyana.

Always give 100%, cause kids remember their past and appreciate as adults, with grandkids all over you.   

But then Guyanese are simple-minded! Go read Exodus 3: 22 and Exodus 25 and decided if this 'god' was Jesus' God as he defined Him in John 4: 24! Why would this 'god', who proclaimed to the Hebrews 'I am thy Lord and thy God', require gold, silver, etc.? Couldn't make them himself? Some Creator! Yet you deluded people sing praises to him because of Paul, who never met Jesus anywhere and who led the more numerous goyim to believe this alien  was the God Jesus worshipped! Recall the devil who tried to tempt Jesus? The same! I have a metal chip in my right great toe which I knew nothing about until my doctor ordered all of my medical files from the Health System. I immediately asked my doctor to have it removed by a surgeon which fool claimed I might have stepp