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Canada ‘advises’ Irfaan Ali not to travel; asks him to respond to SOCU charges

Django
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Drugb posted:

Is this an opening for Bibi bai Nandlall?  Why saddle the party with this burden? I wouldn't be surprised if the US follow suit shortly. 

ALi don't look ready for prime time

FM

I wonder if Anil and Persaud back in the game. You would thing that the committee who voted for Ali would have considered the risk with his suspicious education and pending charges. I suppose they decided that his personality would overcome all obstacles.

FM

I remember the Police Chief was out of the country on business and upon his return his vehicle had an accident on the East Bank road. Well, he was in Trinidad and met with the Canadian High Commission.

 I hope the PPP is not jumping the gun. Nandall is looking good.

K
kp posted:

I remember the Police Chief was out of the country on business and upon his return his vehicle had an accident on the East Bank road. Well, he was in Trinidad and met with the Canadian High Commission.

 I hope the PPP is not jumping the gun. Nandall is looking good.

Is that true ?

Django

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PPP/C presidential candidate Irfaan Ali

…raises questions over 19 criminal charges
The presidential ambitions of Irfaan Ali has hit a snag with the Government of Canada blocking his travel to that country owing to the 19 criminal charges against him for his role in the sale of lands in the Pradoville 2 Scheme.
This development is viewed as a major blow to Ali whose controversial selection as the party’s candidate was roundly condemned by rank and file members. Ali was scheduled to travel to Canada for a round of engagements commencing from today. He was to be accompanied by Canadian citizen, Gail Teixeira.

In a release, Ali said he has noted what he described as “mischief being peddled on the social media in relation to my visit to Canada.” According to him as was publicised, “I have a series of meetings and events with the Diaspora planned in Toronto, Canada. I was scheduled to leave Guyana, on Tuesday, January 29, 2019, at 10:20am, via Caribbean Airlines: BW 0600 flight.”

Ali said on Monday, January 28, 2019, at 4:05pm, he received a correspondence from the High Commission of Canada, Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago, advising him of a report in relation to the 19 charges by SOCU. “In the correspondence, they advised me not to travel and gave 30 days to respond to the correspondence,” Ali’s statement read.
According to him contrary to social media reports, “I am in possession of a valid passport and visa to Canada.

I have also since contacted the Canadian High Commissioner, in Georgetown, Guyana who is looking into the matter. As I await the outcome, I assure all Guyanese in the Diaspora of my utmost respect and regard for them and the circumstances surrounding my travel to Canada at this time is beyond my control,” Ali said.

Charges by SOCU
Back in November last year Ali was slapped with 19 charges for alleged conspiracy to defraud the state of some $174M for his role in the notorious Pradoville land-sale scandal. He had appeared before Chief Magistrate Ann McLennan and was released on self-bail, claiming that the charges “…have made me stronger.” Ali, 38, of Sea-spray, Leonora, West Coast Demerara, was not required to plead to the indictable charges.
The charges read that between the year 2010 and 2015, Ali conspired with persons unknown to defraud the Government of Guyana when he acted recklessly in presenting the value of 19 plots of state land situated at Plantation Sparendaam and Goedverwagting, East Coast Demerara and sold the said lands at a grossly undervalued price without first obtaining a valuation to determine the true value of the lands.

Ali is accused of defrauding the state of over $174M after selling the land at an undervalued price. The former minister of housing is accused of selling the lands to former President Bharrat Jagdeo; former Cabinet Secretary Dr. Roger Luncheon; and former ministers Priya Manickchand, Dr. Jennifer Westford, Robert Persaud and Clement Rohee; Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) Shalimar Ali-Hack, and former army head Gary Best and Fortune Developers Inc., Guyana.

He also sold lands at the locations to former General Manager of the Guyana Gold Board and daughter of former President Donald Ramotar, Lisa Ramotar; former President of the Private Sector Commission, Ramesh Dookhoo; the son of former Labour Minister Dr Nanda Gopaul, Dr Ghansham Singh; former Guyana Sugar Corporation (GuySuCo) Chief Executive Officer Rajendra Singh; former president of the Caribbean Development Bank, Compton Bourne; Andrew Bishop, former Chief Executive Officer of the Guyana Lands and Surveys Commission; former Chief Executive Officer of the Guyana Water Inc (GWI) Shaik Baksh, Safraaz Khan and George Hallaq.

Presidential candidacy
Two weeks ago Ali was chosen as the PPP’s presidential candidate beating out the likes of Anil Nandlall, Teixeira, Dr Frank Anthony and Dr Vindyha Persaud. Immediately upon the announcement, social media exploded with an avalanche of criticisms.

K

Canada is interfering in the internal affairs of Guyana.  This is a domestic issue and it's for the GoG to curtail the travel of anyone accused of a domestic infraction.  No wonder the Saudis told pretty boy to take a hike.

When the PPP wins, they should pour cold water on any Canadian investments into Guyana!  The PPP should also curtail non-diaspora Canadians from visiting Guyana.  Do what the Brazilians did to the US after the US made it difficult for their citizens.

This current Canadian admin is punching way over their weight class!

Baseman
Gilbakka posted:

Y'all can gloat. Irfaan will have the last laugh. Worse than he have been allowed to enter Canada. Wait and see.

Seems like you are keeping hope alive....this is what what happens when this is the BEST the PPP can offer the nation...its a shame that it comes to this.

V
Baseman posted:

Canada is interfering in the internal affairs of Guyana.  This is a domestic issue and it's for the GoG to curtail the travel of anyone accused of a domestic infraction.  No wonder the Saudis told pretty boy to take a hike.

When the PPP wins, they should pour cold water on any Canadian investments into Guyana!  The PPP should also curtail non-diaspora Canadians from visiting Guyana.  Do what the Brazilians did to the US after the US made it difficult for their citizens.

This current Canadian admin is punching way over their weight class!

This is pay back for the Charrandas fiasco, escorting him to the plane without informing the Guyanese government.

K
Baseman posted:
Drugb posted:

Vindyha, Anil, Gail and Anthony must be laughing lakka rass and Jaggy stewing. 

You renting again?

Bai wan invalid lakka me nah need fuh rent, dem does give good benefits hey in de US to the disabled. Ask cribby, he too riding de gravy train. 

FM
kp posted:
Baseman posted:

Canada is interfering in the internal affairs of Guyana.  This is a domestic issue and it's for the GoG to curtail the travel of anyone accused of a domestic infraction.  No wonder the Saudis told pretty boy to take a hike.

When the PPP wins, they should pour cold water on any Canadian investments into Guyana!  The PPP should also curtail non-diaspora Canadians from visiting Guyana.  Do what the Brazilians did to the US after the US made it difficult for their citizens.

This current Canadian admin is punching way over their weight class!

This is pay back for the Charrandas fiasco, escorting him to the plane without informing the Guyanese government.

So they covering their tracks by digging a hole!

Baseman
Baseman posted:
kp posted:
Baseman posted:

Canada is interfering in the internal affairs of Guyana.  This is a domestic issue and it's for the GoG to curtail the travel of anyone accused of a domestic infraction.  No wonder the Saudis told pretty boy to take a hike.

When the PPP wins, they should pour cold water on any Canadian investments into Guyana!  The PPP should also curtail non-diaspora Canadians from visiting Guyana.  Do what the Brazilians did to the US after the US made it difficult for their citizens.

This current Canadian admin is punching way over their weight class!

This is pay back for the Charrandas fiasco, escorting him to the plane without informing the Guyanese government.

So they covering their tracks by digging a hole!

Don't sound like payback, sound like Canada not happy with PPP's choice or maybe they capitulating to the powerfull PNC as a beg pardon for the Charrandas incident. 

FM
Baseman posted:

Canada is interfering in the internal affairs of Guyana.  This is a domestic issue and it's for the GoG to curtail the travel of anyone accused of a domestic infraction.  No wonder the Saudis told pretty boy to take a hike.

When the PPP wins, they should pour cold water on any Canadian investments into Guyana!  The PPP should also curtail non-diaspora Canadians from visiting Guyana.  Do what the Brazilians did to the US after the US made it difficult for their citizens.

This current Canadian admin is punching way over their weight class!

It becomes Canadian business when the candidate, and a potential president, has a background that can potentially render criminality, and wants to enter Canadian territory. Other countries have done this, Rohee was denied a visa to the US, PM Modi of India was denied entry until the Obama Admin decided to change course.

Canada has a right to dictate to Guyana, especially when they have a very liberal immigration policy that benefits Guyanese and they provide aid to Guyana...

 

V
VishMahabir posted:
Baseman posted:

Canada is interfering in the internal affairs of Guyana.  This is a domestic issue and it's for the GoG to curtail the travel of anyone accused of a domestic infraction.  No wonder the Saudis told pretty boy to take a hike.

When the PPP wins, they should pour cold water on any Canadian investments into Guyana!  The PPP should also curtail non-diaspora Canadians from visiting Guyana.  Do what the Brazilians did to the US after the US made it difficult for their citizens.

This current Canadian admin is punching way over their weight class!

It becomes Canadian business when the candidate, and a potential president, has a background that can potentially render criminality, and wants to enter Canadian territory. Other countries have done this, Rohee was denied a visa to the US, PM Modi of India was denied entry until the Obama Admin decided to change course.

Canada has a right to dictate to Guyana, especially when they have a very liberal immigration policy that benefits Guyanese and they provide aid to Guyana...

 

Wrong!!

Canada has NO right to dictate to Guyana.  Their liberal immigration is their business.  Guyana could care less!

The PPP should retaliate when they get into office!

Baseman
Drugb posted:
Baseman posted:
kp posted:
Baseman posted:

Canada is interfering in the internal affairs of Guyana.  This is a domestic issue and it's for the GoG to curtail the travel of anyone accused of a domestic infraction.  No wonder the Saudis told pretty boy to take a hike.

When the PPP wins, they should pour cold water on any Canadian investments into Guyana!  The PPP should also curtail non-diaspora Canadians from visiting Guyana.  Do what the Brazilians did to the US after the US made it difficult for their citizens.

This current Canadian admin is punching way over their weight class!

This is pay back for the Charrandas fiasco, escorting him to the plane without informing the Guyanese government.

So they covering their tracks by digging a hole!

Don't sound like payback, sound like Canada not happy with PPP's choice or maybe they capitulating to the powerfull PNC as a beg pardon for the Charrandas incident. 

Once again, that's an internal affair!

The more you post, the more you sound/read like not you!

Baseman
Vish M posted:

This is just SOCU getting ahead of itself

He is not a flight risk. It is just another attempt to damage this Youngman 

The Canadian Guyanese must get their elected officials engaged

I agree.  If he is a flight risk, it's for the GoG to act, not the Canadians!

Baseman

Vishnu, how can you damage a young man when he is damaged already by Jagdeo? He is a member of the Jagdeo evil empire. Things cannot get any worse than what is it right now. 

FM
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Baseman posted:
VishMahabir posted:
Baseman posted:

Canada is interfering in the internal affairs of Guyana.  This is a domestic issue and it's for the GoG to curtail the travel of anyone accused of a domestic infraction.  No wonder the Saudis told pretty boy to take a hike.

When the PPP wins, they should pour cold water on any Canadian investments into Guyana!  The PPP should also curtail non-diaspora Canadians from visiting Guyana.  Do what the Brazilians did to the US after the US made it difficult for their citizens.

This current Canadian admin is punching way over their weight class!

It becomes Canadian business when the candidate, and a potential president, has a background that can potentially render criminality, and wants to enter Canadian territory. Other countries have done this, Rohee was denied a visa to the US, PM Modi of India was denied entry until the Obama Admin decided to change course.

Canada has a right to dictate to Guyana, especially when they have a very liberal immigration policy that benefits Guyanese and they provide aid to Guyana...

 

Wrong!!

Canada has NO right to dictate to Guyana.  Their liberal immigration is their business.  Guyana could care less!

The PPP should retaliate when they get into office!

Then Jagdeo should not be briefing the Canadians about the illegality of the government following the NC vote...nor should they call on Canada to send election observers.

PPP should retaliate??? Like Priya and her "feral blast"? The PPP does not understand the notion of geopolitics...Jagan with his communism surely did not....

V
Baseman posted:
Drugb posted:
Baseman posted:
kp posted:
Baseman posted:

Canada is interfering in the internal affairs of Guyana.  This is a domestic issue and it's for the GoG to curtail the travel of anyone accused of a domestic infraction.  No wonder the Saudis told pretty boy to take a hike.

When the PPP wins, they should pour cold water on any Canadian investments into Guyana!  The PPP should also curtail non-diaspora Canadians from visiting Guyana.  Do what the Brazilians did to the US after the US made it difficult for their citizens.

This current Canadian admin is punching way over their weight class!

This is pay back for the Charrandas fiasco, escorting him to the plane without informing the Guyanese government.

So they covering their tracks by digging a hole!

Don't sound like payback, sound like Canada not happy with PPP's choice or maybe they capitulating to the powerfull PNC as a beg pardon for the Charrandas incident. 

Once again, that's an internal affair!

The more you post, the more you sound/read like not you!

Its an advisory from the Canadian government...not an internal interference in the election process.

It is possible that the Guyana government is also working behind the scenes to keep the Canadian government apprised of the charges....politics at play.

V
VishMahabir posted:
Baseman posted:
Drugb posted:
Baseman posted:
kp posted:
Baseman posted:

Canada is interfering in the internal affairs of Guyana.  This is a domestic issue and it's for the GoG to curtail the travel of anyone accused of a domestic infraction.  No wonder the Saudis told pretty boy to take a hike.

When the PPP wins, they should pour cold water on any Canadian investments into Guyana!  The PPP should also curtail non-diaspora Canadians from visiting Guyana.  Do what the Brazilians did to the US after the US made it difficult for their citizens.

This current Canadian admin is punching way over their weight class!

This is pay back for the Charrandas fiasco, escorting him to the plane without informing the Guyanese government.

So they covering their tracks by digging a hole!

Don't sound like payback, sound like Canada not happy with PPP's choice or maybe they capitulating to the powerfull PNC as a beg pardon for the Charrandas incident. 

Once again, that's an internal affair!

The more you post, the more you sound/read like not you!

Its an advisory from the Canadian government...not an internal interference in the election process.

It is possible that the Guyana government is also working behind the scenes to keep the Canadian government apprised of the charges....politics at play.

They better hope Canada and US dont follow suit

V
VishMahabir posted:
Baseman posted:

Canada is interfering in the internal affairs of Guyana.  This is a domestic issue and it's for the GoG to curtail the travel of anyone accused of a domestic infraction.  No wonder the Saudis told pretty boy to take a hike.

When the PPP wins, they should pour cold water on any Canadian investments into Guyana!  The PPP should also curtail non-diaspora Canadians from visiting Guyana.  Do what the Brazilians did to the US after the US made it difficult for their citizens.

This current Canadian admin is punching way over their weight class!

It becomes Canadian business when the candidate, and a potential president, has a background that can potentially render criminality, and wants to enter Canadian territory. Other countries have done this, Rohee was denied a visa to the US, PM Modi of India was denied entry until the Obama Admin decided to change course.

Canada has a right to dictate to Guyana, especially when they have a very liberal immigration policy that benefits Guyanese and they provide aid to Guyana...

 

When was Rohee denied a visa to the US?  He travels to the US frequently.

Bibi Haniffa

When I was just settling in wid Mr. Ali! I concluded he was the best choice putting aside the PNC government case on him. Those other Presidential hopefuls demonstrated the lack of courage to stand up to Jagdeo. How can they ever be up against the PNC.

Jagdeo needs to be in control and select another Presidential Candidate, if he has to.

S
VishMahabir posted:
Gilbakka posted:

Y'all can gloat. Irfaan will have the last laugh. Worse than he have been allowed to enter Canada. Wait and see.

Seems like you are keeping hope alive....this is what what happens when this is the BEST the PPP can offer the nation...its a shame that it comes to this.

Irfaan Ali has been charged but not yet tried and convicted. Until then the principle of presumption of innocence should be honoured. The Guyana Government has not impounded Ali's passport so he is free to travel abroad. Ali is not coming to Canada to live. The Canadian authorities know he plans to spend a short time with the Guyanese community here. Ali has no criminal record so far. There are suspected war criminals from Europe and elsewhere in Canada. Why bar Irfaan?

FM
Gilbakka posted:
VishMahabir posted:
Gilbakka posted:

Y'all can gloat. Irfaan will have the last laugh. Worse than he have been allowed to enter Canada. Wait and see.

Seems like you are keeping hope alive....this is what what happens when this is the BEST the PPP can offer the nation...its a shame that it comes to this.

Irfaan Ali has been charged but not yet tried and convicted. Until then the principle of presumption of innocence should be honoured. The Guyana Government has not impounded Ali's passport so he is free to travel abroad. Ali is not coming to Canada to live. The Canadian authorities know he plans to spend a short time with the Guyanese community here. Ali has no criminal record so far. There are suspected war criminals from Europe and elsewhere in Canada. Why bar Irfaan?

Maybe to appease the minister of foreign affair. He did, lash the Canandians over the exit of Charrandas.

Maybe the Americans have something to do with it. Look at the Chinee lady held in Vancover.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

S

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