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@Former Member posted:

Claudette Singh has the ultimate authority to make decisions for GECOM.

The CEO is a member of the organization who indeed provides his views and opinions on GECOM matters. He does not in any way, shape or form limit the actions/decisions for/of the Chairman of GECOM.

Article 177:

"...that Presidential candidate shall be deemed to be elected as President and shall be so declared by the Chairman of the Elections acting only in accordance with the advice of the Chief Election Officer"

Rochelle
@Rochelle posted:

Article 177:

"...that Presidential candidate shall be deemed to be elected as President and shall be so declared by the Chairman of the Elections acting only in accordance with the advice of the Chief Election Officer"

The problem is the CEO is compromised and any advice he has to offer should not be considered in the chairman’s declaration. He can give his advice but the chairman doesn’t have to follow any of his recommendations.

Ace

Esteemed Ms. Rochelle ...

"Doffs my hat and bows with a slight incline"

That section specifically deals with the situation when there are two or more presidential candidates and the Chief Election Officer presents his views on the votes compiled for each candidate.

The Chief Election Officer specific role is to present to the Chairman of GECOM the tabulation of the votes to outline the order in which the votes are cast for each presidential candidate.

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Section of the Constitution addressing the issue ...

Section 177 - Guyana Constitution ...

177.

    (1) Any list of candidates for an election held pursuant to the provisions of article 60 (2) shall designate not more than one of those candidates as a Presidential candidate. An elector voting at such an election in favour of a list shall be deemed to be also voting in favour of the Presidential candidate named in the list.

     (2)  (a) there is only one Presidential candidate at the election; or

    (b) there are two or more Presidential candidate, if more votes are cast in favour of the list in which a person is designated as Presidential candidate than in favour of any other list, that Presidential candidate shall be deemed to be elected as President and shall be so declared by the chairman of the Elections Commission acting only in accordance with the advice of the Chief Election Officer, after such advice has been tendered to the Elections Commission at a duly summoned meeting.

FM
@kp posted:

They are learning from America, them people have TV.

Nah. Dem was doing that before tube radio.  Now They just taking lead up from the PNC gangsters in Brooklyn!  This is why the PNC disrespecting the US ambassador, she is White and a woman.

Baseman
@kp posted:

They are learning from America, them people have TV.

Only one kind of people in America behave like hoodlums and always cry out that they are victims. The majority of people in America are decent, hard working people who can teach the rest of the world about nation building.

Bibi Haniffa
 

OAS calls on GECOM Chair to declare PPP winner and for APNU+AFC to hand over power

 

Opposition Leader Bharrat Jagdeo and President David Granger meeting Tuesday meeting. Accompanying Jagdeo was Irfaan Ali MP and with Mr Granger was Director-General of the Ministry of the Presidency, Joseph Harmon. (file photo)

The Organisation of American States (OAS) on Monday called on the Chairman of the Guyana Elections Commission (GECOM) to declare the People’s Progressive Party Civic (PPPC) the winner of the March 2, 2020 general and regional elections in line with Caribbean Community (CARICOM) scrutinised recount and the tabulated  results in the Chief Elections Officer’s report.

“OAS further takes note and wholly supports the findings of the CARICOM team of scrutineers that the results of the recount were transparent and credible, and nothing prevents the Chair of the Guyana Elections Commission from now declaring the election, based on these results.

Elections are held to determine the will of the people and once the people’s wishes are clearly stated they must be upheld – not only in instances where they favour the incumbent. In this case, the results published in the report of the Chief Elections Officer himself make it clear that the opposition PPP/C has won the favour of the majority of Guyana’s eligible voters. Their will must be respected.

The OAS calls on the current administration of Guyana to begin the process of transition, which will allow the legitimately elected government to take its place,” the 35-nation OAS states. 14 OAS members are also members of the Caribbean Community (CARICOM).

The recount shows that of the 460,352 valid votes cast, APNU+AFC got 217,920 and the PPP 233,336 and the  three ‘joinder’ parties- A New and United Guyana (ANUG), Liberty and Justice Party (LJP) and The New Movement (TNM) got a total of 5,214‬ votes

Following is the full text of the OAS’ statement

The decision of the Guyana Elections Commission (GECOM), on April 3, 2020, to proceed with a national recount, and the eventual initiation of the process on May 6, were welcome developments in the ongoing electoral process in Guyana. Following the very irregular occurrences in the tabulation process for District Four, which undermined the credibility of the results for that electoral District – the largest in Guyana – a national recount of all ballots was deemed the best approach to ensure a result that was acceptable to all stakeholders.

The OAS notes that the decision to proceed with the recount had the full support of all stakeholders in the March 2 General and Regional Elections. The Official Order of the Recount, No. 60/2020, gazetted on May 4, 2020 notably states “ … the President and the Leader of the Opposition and all contesting parties agreed to a CARICOM proposal for a total recount of all electoral districts as a means of assuaging the contesting parties and determining a final credible count…” This support was reiterated in public statements by the President of Guyana and other key stakeholders as the recount proceeded.

The Order of the Recount required that “ascertained and verified” matrices of the results for each of the ten electoral districts be submitted to the Chief Elections Officer, who would then tabulate these results and submit them to GECOM, along with a summary of the observation reports prepared for each District. OAS notes that the report submitted by the Chief Elections Officer on June 13, records multiple “allegations” of irregularities by a contesting party in each District, which are then used as a basis for determining that the electoral process in each of the ten Districts was not credible. There is little evidence in the CEO’s report of efforts to investigate or otherwise address any of the alleged irregularities presented. His contention that the entire election be set aside on this basis alone is astonishing.

In its statement of April 15, 2020, prior to the commencement of the recount, the OAS had recommended the exclusion of any official who had displayed partisan behaviour during the electoral process. While the CEO’s approach to his report is therefore disappointing, it is not unexpected.

As noted in our statement of June 4, OAS observers present on each day of the national recount have reported that the process was conducted in a professional, transparent and impartial fashion, which allowed GECOM, political parties and other stakeholders to accurately determine the results for each polling station. OAS reiterates that there is no reason not to support the results of the recount process.

OAS further takes note and wholly supports the findings of the CARICOM team of scrutineers that the results of the recount were transparent and credible, and nothing prevents the Chair of the Guyana Elections Commission from now declaring the election, based on these results.

Elections are held to determine the will of the people and once the people’s wishes are clearly stated they must be upheld – not only in instances where they favour the incumbent. In this case, the results published in the report of the Chief Elections Officer himself make it clear that the opposition PPP/C has won the favour of the majority of Guyana’s eligible voters. Their will must be respected.

The OAS calls on the current administration of Guyana to begin the process of transition, which will allow the legitimately elected government to take its place.

FM
@Rochelle posted:

So in reality the CARICOM observers are saying BOTH the March 2, 2020 election tabulations and the recount tabulations are sufficient.

Inconclusive, indeed.

How many times do you want to count the same votes and come out with the same results?  No amount of jiggery pokery can change the truth.  You cannot tell intelligent people that the sky is green. You cannot tell normal right thinking people blood is purple. The truth always prevail.

Bibi Haniffa
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@Former Member posted:

Timely reminder.

Hehehehe...he gon seh we misunderstood, the mask mek suh!

He should remove that fikung mask, we can hardly understand him even "barefaced."

Baseman
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Pro APNU+AFC Commissioner seeks to discredit CARICOM vote recount report

 

Government-backed GECOM Commissioners Vincent Alexander and Desmond Trotman.

Pro-coalition Elections Commissioner, Vincent Alexander on Monday sought to discredit the Caribbean Community (CARICOM) national vote recount report, while suggesting that the Elections Commission (GECOM) might make a “pronouncement” on the March 2, 2020 elections by weekend.

“The CARICOM report is a basic electoral report. I don’t think the CARICOM people were disposed to or had access to the death immigration or the immigration information… I mean they had the allegation but not the reports that we have and so we have a basic electoral report,” Alexander told reporters.

Pressed on whether he supports the CARICOM team’s view that the results reflect who Guyanese want to govern them for the next five years, he restated that their conclusion was “based on what they saw” and he still believed that there were questions about the electoral process. “At this point in time, I am still of the view that there are serious questions about the credibility given the irregularities that have been found,”said Alexander, the longest serving GECOM Commissioner.

He declined to say whether he would get majority support from among the six other commissioners that the elections were not credible. “I can’t say so” he said.  With the seven-member commission evenly split between government and opposition commissioners, it will be up to the GECOM Chairman, Retired Justice Claudette Singh to decide.

Alexander distinguished a “final pronouncement” from a declaration, with a pronouncement that the presidential, parliamentary and regional council elections “weren’t credible.”

The CARICOM scrutineers report, which was delivered to GECOM Monday morning, states that the recount results do not provide sufficient evidence to show that the will of Guyanese was thwarted.

Asked whether figures so far showing that 45 dead persons and 500 emigrants were on the voters list would affect the will of the people, Alexander said the Commission’s discussion has not yet focussed on that. He again referred to the 47 boxes on the East Coast Demerara that account for 10,000 votes. Alexander reiterated that he did not want those people to be disenfranchised and that a mechanism should be found to ensure that they can legitimately vote.

The Organisation of American States (OAS) earlier Monday backed the CARICOM reclount report and urged the GECOM Chairman to declare the People’s Progressive Party (PPP) the winner. The OAS also called on the incumbent administration to take steps to transition governance of this oil-rich South American nation.

FM

The CARICOM report is not as categorical as being reported.  For example, it recommends a new voters list.  You don't recommend a new list if you think the one used was fine.  Second, it recommends an investigation into the missing statutory documents from boxes.  Again, not a ringing endorsement of the results.  GECOM will decide.  

T
 BREAKING

Commonwealth SG urges acceptance of recount result

This story is developing and will be updated.

Commonwealth Secretary General Patricia Scotland today welcomed the CARICOM observers report on recount of the March 2nd general elections and called for the acceptance of the  results.

 

A statement by Ms Scotland follows:

I welcome the report of the CARICOM Observer Team to the Recount of the Guyana 2 March 2020 elections and commend them for their brave and selfless service.

The CARICOM Observer report is clear that the recount results are completely acceptable and that nothing that the CARICOM Observers witnessed warrants a challenge to the inescapable conclusion that the recount results are acceptable and should constitute the basis of the declaration of the results of the 2 March elections.

 

President Granger and the Leader of the Opposition demonstrated commendable leadership when they agreed to the recount and committed to respect and adhere to the recount results. This continued leadership and commitment is needed now more than ever. The people of Guyana have been patient and deserve finality as determined by the recount results.

I also wish to thank Senior Commonwealth Adviser, Dr Afari-Gyan, who remains faithful, steadfast and resilient in his professional and experienced support to the Guyana Elections Commission.

The Commonwealth continues to stand with Guyana and urge the leaders and the people of Guyana to live up to the lofty aspirations set out in your constitution, your electoral laws, and the Commonwealth Charter.

FM

Guyana and Suriname -- of interest --

Elections

Guyana - March 02, 2020

Suriname - May 25, 2020

Decisions on election ...

Guyana - Election issues unknown to date, June, 15, 2020

Suriname - Elections issues done. Parliament to open by June 24, 2020

FM

Caretaker President Granger has a final opportunity to accept defeat with grace and honour or doom his political career to ignominy. The choice is his. Up to now APNU+AFC is fighting a futile battle. Pitiful.

FM

How many times do you want to count the same votes and come out with the same results?  No amount of jiggery pokery can change the truth.  You cannot tell intelligent people that the sky is green. You cannot tell normal right thinking people blood is purple. The truth always prevail.

"Reasonably credible" is not credible.

Nor is auditing 18% of the ballot boxes to come to your conclusion. 

Tomorrow this will all come to an end...or beginning.

Rochelle
@Totaram posted:

The CARICOM report is not as categorical as being reported.  For example, it recommends a new voters list.  You don't recommend a new list if you think the one used was fine.  Second, it recommends an investigation into the missing statutory documents from boxes.  Again, not a ringing endorsement of the results.  GECOM will decide.  

Precisely!

All PPP want to hear is the results are reasonably credible with 18% of the ballot boxes reviewed and they are claiming victory. 

Rochelle
@Totaram posted:

The CARICOM report is not as categorical as being reported.  For example, it recommends a new voters list.  You don't recommend a new list if you think the one used was fine.  Second, it recommends an investigation into the missing statutory documents from boxes.  Again, not a ringing endorsement of the results.  GECOM will decide.  

Nah. Ask GECOM for dem documents. Bingo man tell dem put in separate bag.

Oh, and how bout dem missing statutory documents, SOPs.  How ayuh nah complaining bout dah!

Ayuh PNC are good crooks, but the world not stupid!

Baseman
@Rochelle posted:

Precisely!

All PPP want to hear is the results are reasonably credible with 18% of the ballot boxes reviewed and they are claiming victory. 

Nah miss cook up.  Ayuh nah guh disenfranchise 60% of the population. Wake up and smell the coffee!

Baseman
@Rochelle posted:

"Reasonably credible" is not credible.

Nor is auditing 18% of the ballot boxes to come to your conclusion. 

Tomorrow this will all come to an end...or beginning.

A professional attesting always use words like reasonable, material, etc. Because nothing is ever absolute!  Don’t mix up those words as an opening!

Baseman
@Baseman posted:

Nah miss cook up.  Ayuh nah guh disenfranchise 60% of the population. Wake up and smell the coffee!

Hey Basearam (Ask Mitwah for meaning), can't you make a point without engaging in adolescent behaviour?  If you want to start making up names then game's on.     

T
@Baseman posted:

Nah miss cook up.  Ayuh nah guh disenfranchise 60% of the population. Wake up and smell the coffee!

Guyanese tend to smell tea mo dan coffee and they try not to drunged in dem T-Pee. Dam British, ginger beer and bara is betta, unless you are stuck wid an 'erb.    

Tola
@Rochelle posted:

Article 177:

"...that Presidential candidate shall be deemed to be elected as President and shall be so declared by the Chairman of the Elections acting only in accordance with the advice of the Chief Election Officer"

Semantics...no one can get away from the Mingoing of the tabulations, the actual SOPs and the CARICOM report. The coalition is mincing words....wild-eyed looking for something to hang on to. The fact remains, regardless of how we interpret the legal advise of the CEO, he is a scamp, compromised, and he is heavily partisan, and in the pocket ofthe PNC...lets not be foolish and think that the PNC, through Lowenfield, is not trying to vitiate the process and call for new elections...

V
@Tola posted:

Guyanese tend to smell tea mo dan coffee and they try not to drunged in dem T-Pee. Dam British, ginger beer and bara is betta, unless you are stuck wid an 'erb.    

Banna...what de hell yo saying???

V
@Totaram posted:

The CARICOM report is not as categorical as being reported.  For example, it recommends a new voters list.  You don't recommend a new list if you think the one used was fine.  Second, it recommends an investigation into the missing statutory documents from boxes.  Again, not a ringing endorsement of the results.  GECOM will decide.  

They were trying to recommend what needed to be fixed for future elections based on what they observed. 

The voter's list should be continually updated, there is a law and provisions made for this. Barbados had a bloated list, but like Guyana, careful measures were taken to ensure fairness and transition (no dead people voting and no fly by night immigrants voted). 

The issue of the missing statutory documents was addressed. 

Neither of these socalled irregularities (which the coalition is magnifying) affected the results and everyone who voted had their votes counted.

V
@Tola posted:

Guyanese tend to smell tea mo dan coffee and they try not to drunged in dem T-Pee. Dam British, ginger beer and bara is betta, unless you are stuck wid an 'erb.    

Nah bai, dah is Meister Cain

Baseman

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