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October 31 2018

Dr. Ranjisinghi ’Bobby’ Ramroop

Despite the fact that the bulk of the money invested in the Berbice Bridge came from National Insurance Scheme (NIS), Dr. Ranjisinghi ’Bobby’ Ramroop is the largest shareholder.This was confirmed in a missive from Berbice Bridge Company Inc. (BBCI) yesterday.
A chart that was included in the missive, provided details about the ownership of the bridge. It shows that Ramroop, a very close friend of former President, Bharrat Jagdeo, is the largest shareholder.NICIL has 10 percent shares in the bridge, NIS has 20.2 percent, Hand In Hand Fire Insurance has 10, New GPC has 20 percent, Queens Atlantic Investment Inc. has 20 percent and Secure International Finance Co. Limited owns 20 percent.

This chart was provided by BCCI

Brassington’s brother, Michael, is the largest shareholder in Hand in Hand. The Ramroop/Brassington combination therefore puts the ownership of the bridge in the hands of Jagdeo’s close friends.
The BCCI was keen to note yesterday that no single company has a majority share. However, Bobby Ramroop owns two of the companies that each has 20 percent shares.
BCCI said, “The NIS is not the majority shareholder. No single shareholder (Company) owns the majority of shares. In an eight-person Board of Directors, six are ordinary shareholders, including the NIS, one is a preferential shareholder (the NIS) and one subordinated loan holder (including the NIS). The last two categories, preference shares and subordinated loans, have no general voting rights.”
The reality is that these two have the bulk of the money in the bridge, much more than Ramroop’s two companies.
Also, BCCI yesterday condemned this newspaper saying that it published “lies” about the bridge and is ignoring “truths”.

One of the purported “lies” is that the “contract was structured to allow investors with disproportionately small investments to control the asset”. BCCI said this even though, based on its own chart, Ramroop owns more shares than NIS which invested more money.
BBCI said that it is bound by its Concession Agreement under the Berbice River Bridge Act in implementing the tolls charged at the Bridge. The Company said that it has no alternative but to honour the Toll Adjustment Formula prescribed in the Agreement; no discretion in calculating the amount of the toll and is bound by the Toll Adjustment Policy dictating the Formula.
BCCI said that since 2015, respective governments—previous and present—have violated their contractual obligations to implement an annual toll adjustment which would have resulted in “small incremental adjustments instead of the current burdensome level. The Kaieteur News has chosen to ignore this truth.”
BCCI said that the current level of toll adjustment is entirely the fault of the government, not the Company.
BCCI said, “Prior to and since taking office, this government has refused to meet with the BBCI in spite of three (3) requests to do so. The power and the privilege to review or amend the Concession Agreement rest entirely with the government. The Kaieteur News has chosen to ignore this truth.”
“The Kaieteur News has then lied about the shareholding of the Company. The Kaieteur News claims that the ‘majority shares of BBCI is owned by the NIS and control is in the hands of private entities. This is a lie.”
The Kaieteur News claims that “in its first year of operation the BBCI collected GS1.4B in revenue”. This is yet another lie. In its first full year of operation (2009), BBCI earned GS946M. In truth, after nine years of operations, BBCI’s annual toll revenue has never exceeded G$1.372B.
The Bridge Company also said that Kaieteur News lied when it said that “Contractual Agreement was clearly designed to make few people wealthy at the expenses of the masses”.
BCCI said, “First, the six ordinary shareholders are not guaranteed a return on their investment. Their investments are subjected to the risk of the company making a profit and cash flow availability.
“Since BBCI has made no profit, no dividends have been paid to any of the shareholders. Even if a profit is made, the payment of any dividends is at the discretion of the Directors, after taking into account the cash flow position of the company the truth is that from the inception of the Bridge, the NIS, whose investments represent every Guyanese citizen, has earned 94 percent returns on its total investment, i.e. GS2.4B.
Because of the shortfall in revenue resulting from Government’s refusal over the past three years to make toll adjustments, the BBCI has been able to pay the NIS only G$1.73 of the returns which came from its GS2.59B investment in BBCI and G$222M in principle repayments.

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Jagdeo and his best friend Bobby...Mansion builders. What a tangled web they weave, on the backs of the Guyanese tax payers. 

When is Jagdeo going to get Berbicians to protest against the Berbice bridge toll increase ?

Tola
yuji22 posted:

Did the government not recently give Bobby a massive contract to supply Prescription medication to the Health Ministry ? The article was posted here recently.

Money talks; bullshit walks.

FM
yuji22 posted:

Did the government not recently give Bobby a massive contract to supply Prescription medication to the Health Ministry ? The article was posted here recently.

For your information the supply to the Health Department went thru a bidding process, his Company became the best bidder.

Django
yuji22 posted:

Did the government not recently give Bobby a massive contract to supply Prescription medication to the Health Ministry ? The article was posted here recently.

Do you expect Bobby's prescription medication will help the Berbice bridge toll increase?      Bhai, put you brain in gear.  

Regarding the prescription medication  bidding process, I am sure he rass will not charge the price he charged, when Jagdeo was president.  Like leeches on the taxpayers.

Tola
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Tola posted:
yuji22 posted:

Did the government not recently give Bobby a massive contract to supply Prescription medication to the Health Ministry ? The article was posted here recently.

Do you expect Bobby's medication will help the Berbice bridge toll increase?      Bhai, put you brain in gear.  

Regarding the prescription medication  bidding process, I am sure he rass will not charge the price he charged, when Jagdeo was president.  Like leeches on the taxpayers.

Tola Bhai, The more money rich people acquire, the more they want. They do not care for the unfortunate. I saw an Indian movie once when I was in Guyana. A beggar went to his gate, he told the beggar he has nothing that he could give him. The beggar shouted, "why don't you come and let us go and beg together".

FM

Like de APNU govt more mature dan dem bad minded supporter. Dem mind bad like that Freddie K. Usual guyanese badminded people. Everybady know Jagdoe give Babby special privilege. Babby get contract fram Jagdoe. Nuff, nuff. What dem dem badminded people doan talk bout is Babby could juss rape de kuntry and save all he money he mek and park am in Panama, Miami and Swiss. But de man reinvest in Guyana. Ayoo prefer GPC dey get own by some racial Russian or Chinee investor? Babby gat he fault but all ayoo badminded sk^($#ts doan seem to get what it tek foh mek yuh own business investor. What dat Jagdoe need to do is get Babby foh invest in blackman community and employ blackman in senior management. Me know he does do some of dat at GPC and Guy Times. Black woman run de operation. De man should juss start doin like dem Brazil and Chile and Argentina whiteman dem. Mek money local and send am oversease. Hey hey hey...

FM
skeldon_man posted:
Tola posted:
yuji22 posted:

Did the government not recently give Bobby a massive contract to supply Prescription medication to the Health Ministry ? The article was posted here recently.

Do you expect Bobby's medication will help the Berbice bridge toll increase?      Bhai, put you brain in gear.  

Regarding the prescription medication  bidding process, I am sure he rass will not charge the price he charged, when Jagdeo was president.  Like leeches on the taxpayers.

Tola Bhai, The more money rich people acquire, the more they want. They do not care for the unfortunate. I saw an Indian movie once when I was in Guyana. A beggar went to his gate, he told the beggar he has nothing that he could give him. The beggar shouted, "why don't you come and let us go and beg together".

Skelly, for this reason I don't buy lottery tickets or gamble, because I don't want  to change my life style and lose the feeling I have for the needy, or me personal life kok duk.

Our children worked for what they are today, respected citizens in our town and I am sure our grandchildren will be the same. Our sons were recruited from one job to the next, with good salaries, benefits and vehicle to drive home.   

As you said money corrupts.    

Tola
skeldon_man posted:
Tola posted:
yuji22 posted:

Did the government not recently give Bobby a massive contract to supply Prescription medication to the Health Ministry ? The article was posted here recently.

Do you expect Bobby's medication will help the Berbice bridge toll increase?      Bhai, put you brain in gear.  

Regarding the prescription medication  bidding process, I am sure he rass will not charge the price he charged, when Jagdeo was president.  Like leeches on the taxpayers.

Tola Bhai, The more money rich people acquire, the more they want. They do not care for the unfortunate. I saw an Indian movie once when I was in Guyana. A beggar went to his gate, he told the beggar he has nothing that he could give him. The beggar shouted, "why don't you come and let us go and beg together".

There is a Hindu puranic story about the Lord appearing as beggar and appeared at the door of a rich but stingy Maharaja. He insulted the beggar and said that he has nothing. The Lord said,  " So let it be". 

Mitwah
Django posted:
yuji22 posted:

Did the government not recently give Bobby a massive contract to supply Prescription medication to the Health Ministry ? The article was posted here recently.

For your information the supply to the Health Department went thru a bidding process, his Company became the best bidder.

You see if that contract was given to Bobby during Jagdeo's reign, everybody would say that is not fair because they are friends. Today Bobby's enemy and naysayers are  willing and have confidence to give him a contract, I thought Bobby Ramroop was Black Listed by the PNC/AFC government. Maybe just like before he was the Best bidder or the only bidder.

K
skeldon_man posted:
Tola posted:
yuji22 posted:

Did the government not recently give Bobby a massive contract to supply Prescription medication to the Health Ministry ? The article was posted here recently.

Do you expect Bobby's medication will help the Berbice bridge toll increase?      Bhai, put you brain in gear.  

Regarding the prescription medication  bidding process, I am sure he rass will not charge the price he charged, when Jagdeo was president.  Like leeches on the taxpayers.

Tola Bhai, The more money rich people acquire, the more they want. They do not care for the unfortunate. I saw an Indian movie once when I was in Guyana. A beggar went to his gate, he told the beggar he has nothing that he could give him. The beggar shouted, "why don't you come and let us go and beg together".

Tola bhai .. which you prefer.. 

1. Increase toll

2. Waiting 4 hour for the ferry and the pepper sause will spoil.

FM
Tola posted:
yuji22 posted:

Did the government not recently give Bobby a massive contract to supply Prescription medication to the Health Ministry ? The article was posted here recently.

Regarding the prescription medication  bidding process, I am sure he rass will not charge the price he charged, when Jagdeo was president.  Like leeches on the taxpayers.

Banna, dat mek no sense, none wah so evva, common or oddawise.  If dah Banna Ramroop suddenly come wid prices way below wah he gave the previous govt, he just handed the govt the case on a silver platter to audit the contracts awarded him by the previous govt and demand clawback.

its either Alyuh lack common sense, alyuh lake book sense, or Alyuh lack technical sense.  Anyway is like yuh lack sense all round. 

The previous govt had lots of problems but ayuh muss learn to discern sense from nonsense.  The fact that this govt awarded him the contract vindicates the previous!!

Now, guh try blow smoke up stchupit people batty!!!

Baseman
Dave posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Tola posted:

 

Do you expect Bobby's medication will help the Berbice bridge toll increase?      Bhai, put you brain in gear.  

Regarding the prescription medication  bidding process, I am sure he rass will not charge the price he charged, when Jagdeo was president.  Like leeches on the taxpayers.

Tola Bhai, The more money rich people acquire, the more they want. They do not care for the unfortunate. I saw an Indian movie once when I was in Guyana. A beggar went to his gate, he told the beggar he has nothing that he could give him. The beggar shouted, "why don't you come and let us go and beg together".

Tola bhai .. which you prefer.. 

1. Increase toll

2. Waiting 4 hour for the ferry and the pepper sause will spoil.

That’s a dumb heartless false equivalence.  Is like asking which method of torture you prefer.  

This is Jagdeo big screwup that put everyone in a predicament.  This will have a bad ending for investors, and dem rass deserve the punishment.  They were fools to put their money in a project the WB said was not viable.   

Baseman
skeldon_man posted:
yuji22 posted:

Did the government not recently give Bobby a massive contract to supply Prescription medication to the Health Ministry ? The article was posted here recently.

Money talks; bullshit walks.

Exactly. 

It takes money to make money. Bobby took risks and is enjoying the rewards. No envy for the Brudda. 

FM
Nehru posted:

Base, Is Dunda heads!!  DEm mek Stupidee Bill looks like Einstein

Man....izzz weh Alyuh dozz find dem deeze stchupit people to come try blow smoke up people batty?  Some people tink everydady stchupit like dem rass!!

Baseman
yuji22 posted:
skeldon_man posted:
yuji22 posted:

Did the government not recently give Bobby a massive contract to supply Prescription medication to the Health Ministry ? The article was posted here recently.

Money talks; bullshit walks.

Exactly. 

It takes money to make money. Bobby took risks and is enjoying the rewards. No envy for the Brudda. 

What risk ? become a supplier to government with out any checks and balances added with preferential treatment are considered risk.

Django
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Baseman posted:
Dave posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Tola posted:

 

Do you expect Bobby's medication will help the Berbice bridge toll increase?      Bhai, put you brain in gear.  

Regarding the prescription medication  bidding process, I am sure he rass will not charge the price he charged, when Jagdeo was president.  Like leeches on the taxpayers.

Tola Bhai, The more money rich people acquire, the more they want. They do not care for the unfortunate. I saw an Indian movie once when I was in Guyana. A beggar went to his gate, he told the beggar he has nothing that he could give him. The beggar shouted, "why don't you come and let us go and beg together".

Tola bhai .. which you prefer.. 

1. Increase toll

2. Waiting 4 hour for the ferry and the pepper sause will spoil.

That’s a dumb heartless false equivalence.  Is like asking which method of torture you prefer.  

This is Jagdeo big screwup that put everyone in a predicament.  This will have a bad ending for investors, and dem rass deserve the punishment.  They were fools to put their money in a project the WB said was not viable.   

How would they be punished? They already secured their investment capital by gouging poor Berbicians. This is a pristine example of crony capitalism. Jagdeo also gifted this group another 25 hectares in the area. Not to mention some of them  are the benefactors of the GSX leases.

FM
Baseman posted:
Dave posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Tola posted:

 

Do you expect Bobby's medication will help the Berbice bridge toll increase?      Bhai, put you brain in gear.  

Regarding the prescription medication  bidding process, I am sure he rass will not charge the price he charged, when Jagdeo was president.  Like leeches on the taxpayers.

Tola Bhai, The more money rich people acquire, the more they want. They do not care for the unfortunate. I saw an Indian movie once when I was in Guyana. A beggar went to his gate, he told the beggar he has nothing that he could give him. The beggar shouted, "why don't you come and let us go and beg together".

Tola bhai .. which you prefer.. 

1. Increase toll

2. Waiting 4 hour for the ferry and the pepper sause will spoil.

That’s a dumb heartless false equivalence.  Is like asking which method of torture you prefer.  

This is Jagdeo big screwup that put everyone in a predicament.  This will have a bad ending for investors, and dem rass deserve the punishment.  They were fools to put their money in a project the WB said was not viable.   

Not my fault you don’t have a sense of humour... I was just fk around with Tola. 

Lets get the Jagdeo buddy investment. 

At the time of financing, was there another source who was willing to risk their money and offered a cheaper return. I don’t know... do you.

I recalled Jagdeo asked the government to release the contract and was against the increase. If the man had anything to fear why would he asked such questions. 

Let say John Doe  name was replacing Ramroop as the investor, who had no affiliation with Jagdeo, would you have the same views.

FM
yuji22 posted:
skeldon_man posted:
yuji22 posted:

Did the government not recently give Bobby a massive contract to supply Prescription medication to the Health Ministry ? The article was posted here recently.

Money talks; bullshit walks.

Exactly. 

It takes money to make money. Bobby took risks and is enjoying the rewards. No envy for the Brudda. 

That was not a big risk.   The big risk is the bbce bridge, and datt guh hutt bad bad!!!

Baseman
Dave posted:

I recalled Jagdeo asked the government to release the contract and was against the increase. If the man had anything to fear why would he asked such questions.

You are aware the contract was released.It's posted on a thread here.

Django
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Django posted:
Dave posted:

I recalled Jagdeo asked the government to release the contract and was against the increase. If the man had anything to fear why would he asked such questions.

You are aware the contract was released.

Don’t know. 

saw Jagdeo released some paper works and show the depreciation. 

What part of the investment you have a problem with. 

FM
Baseman posted:
Tola posted:
yuji22 posted:

Did the government not recently give Bobby a massive contract to supply Prescription medication to the Health Ministry ? The article was posted here recently.

Regarding the prescription medication  bidding process, I am sure he rass will not charge the price he charged, when Jagdeo was president.  Like leeches on the taxpayers.

Banna, dat mek no sense, none wah so evva, common or oddawise.  If dah Banna Ramroop suddenly come wid prices way below wah he gave the previous govt, he just handed the govt the case on a silver platter to audit the contracts awarded him by the previous govt and demand clawback.

its either Alyuh lack common sense, alyuh lake book sense, or Alyuh lack technical sense.  Anyway is like yuh lack sense all round. 

The previous govt had lots of problems but ayuh muss learn to discern sense from nonsense.  The fact that this govt awarded him the contract vindicates the previous!!

Now, guh try blow smoke up stchupit people batty!!!

Not necessarily. He can claim market prices were different.

GTAngler
Django posted:
yuji22 posted:

Did the government not recently give Bobby a massive contract to supply Prescription medication to the Health Ministry ? The article was posted here recently.

For your information the supply to the Health Department went thru a bidding process, his Company became the best bidder.

Was always the best bidder, bai. Give Bobby his bubby.

FM
Baseman posted:
GTAngler posted:
Baseman posted:
Tola posted:
yuji22 posted:

Did the government not recently give Bobby a massive contract to supply Prescription medication to the Health Ministry ? The article was posted here recently.

Regarding the prescription medication  bidding process, I am sure he rass will not charge the price he charged, when Jagdeo was president.  Like leeches on the taxpayers.

Banna, dat mek no sense, none wah so evva, common or oddawise.  If dah Banna Ramroop suddenly come wid prices way below wah he gave the previous govt, he just handed the govt the case on a silver platter to audit the contracts awarded him by the previous govt and demand clawback.

its either Alyuh lack common sense, alyuh lake book sense, or Alyuh lack technical sense.  Anyway is like yuh lack sense all round. 

The previous govt had lots of problems but ayuh muss learn to discern sense from nonsense.  The fact that this govt awarded him the contract vindicates the previous!!

Now, guh try blow smoke up stchupit people batty!!!

Not necessarily. He can claim market prices were different.

And look another stupidly bill to the rescue of the adda stupidly bill.  There is no “market” price so to speak for prescription drugs.  Historical prices are available from the very companies supplying this contract and from any company who supplied previously.  Also reference prices are available through WHO, Oxfam, and other agencies.  

So alyuh two stupidly bill go sit in a carna and blow smoke up waan-an-adda batty!!

I'll leave the batty business to those of you so inclined. I wasn't defending anyone or coming to anyone's rescue. Please note I said "not nesessarily". That does not imply certainty.

GTAngler
GTAngler posted:
Baseman posted:
GTAngler posted:
Baseman posted:
Tola posted:
yuji22 posted:

Did the government not recently give Bobby a massive contract to supply Prescription medication to the Health Ministry ? The article was posted here recently.

Regarding the prescription medication  bidding process, I am sure he rass will not charge the price he charged, when Jagdeo was president.  Like leeches on the taxpayers.

Banna, dat mek no sense, none wah so evva, common or oddawise.  If dah Banna Ramroop suddenly come wid prices way below wah he gave the previous govt, he just handed the govt the case on a silver platter to audit the contracts awarded him by the previous govt and demand clawback.

its either Alyuh lack common sense, alyuh lake book sense, or Alyuh lack technical sense.  Anyway is like yuh lack sense all round. 

The previous govt had lots of problems but ayuh muss learn to discern sense from nonsense.  The fact that this govt awarded him the contract vindicates the previous!!

Now, guh try blow smoke up stchupit people batty!!!

Not necessarily. He can claim market prices were different.

And look another stupidly bill to the rescue of the adda stupidly bill.  There is no “market” price so to speak for prescription drugs.  Historical prices are available from the very companies supplying this contract and from any company who supplied previously.  Also reference prices are available through WHO, Oxfam, and other agencies.  

So alyuh two stupidly bill go sit in a carna and blow smoke up waan-an-adda batty!!

I'll leave the batty business to those of you so inclined. I wasn't defending anyone or coming to anyone's rescue. Please note I said "not nesessarily". That does not imply certainty.

I’m sorry, posting from my phone and misread poster.   I did not realize was you.  I will delete and repost!  You me frenno.....sometimes!!

Baseman
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Baseman posted:
GTAngler posted:
Baseman posted:
GTAngler posted:
Baseman posted:
Tola posted:
yuji22 posted:

Did the government not recently give Bobby a massive contract to supply Prescription medication to the Health Ministry ? The article was posted here recently.

Regarding the prescription medication  bidding process, I am sure he rass will not charge the price he charged, when Jagdeo was president.  Like leeches on the taxpayers.

Banna, dat mek no sense, none wah so evva, common or oddawise.  If dah Banna Ramroop suddenly come wid prices way below wah he gave the previous govt, he just handed the govt the case on a silver platter to audit the contracts awarded him by the previous govt and demand clawback.

its either Alyuh lack common sense, alyuh lake book sense, or Alyuh lack technical sense.  Anyway is like yuh lack sense all round. 

The previous govt had lots of problems but ayuh muss learn to discern sense from nonsense.  The fact that this govt awarded him the contract vindicates the previous!!

Now, guh try blow smoke up stchupit people batty!!!

Not necessarily. He can claim market prices were different.

And look another stupidly bill to the rescue of the adda stupidly bill.  There is no “market” price so to speak for prescription drugs.  Historical prices are available from the very companies supplying this contract and from any company who supplied previously.  Also reference prices are available through WHO, Oxfam, and other agencies.  

So alyuh two stupidly bill go sit in a carna and blow smoke up waan-an-adda batty!!

I'll leave the batty business to those of you so inclined. I wasn't defending anyone or coming to anyone's rescue. Please note I said "not nesessarily". That does not imply certainty.

I’m sorry.  I did not realize was you.  I will delete and repost!  You me frenno.....sometimes!!

The enemy of my enemy is my friend???

GTAngler
Django posted:
yuji22 posted:

Did the government not recently give Bobby a massive contract to supply Prescription medication to the Health Ministry ? The article was posted here recently.

For your information the supply to the Health Department went thru a bidding process, his Company became the best bidder.

Banna, wid all due respect, you need to pay attention to de clown posse hay and STOP RESPONDING to their red herring posts that have NOTHING to do with the topic!!!!

De Yugli man did not even ATTEMPT to address the robbery of Berbicians underway but instantly derailed de thread wid he red herring prescription shit. None of dat didn't bother he enough to start he own thread to discuss when it happened.

And there you go, responding to he like he give a shit, derailing yuh own thread in the process. SMFH!!!!

FM
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Iguana posted:
Django posted:
yuji22 posted:

Did the government not recently give Bobby a massive contract to supply Prescription medication to the Health Ministry ? The article was posted here recently.

For your information the supply to the Health Department went thru a bidding process, his Company became the best bidder.

Banna, wid all due respect, you need to pay attention to de clown posse hay and STOP RESPONDING to their red herring posts that have NOTHING to do with the topic!!!!

De Yugli man did not even ATTEMPT to address the robbery of Berbicians underway but instantly derailed de thread wid he red herring prescription shit. None of dat didn't bother he enough to start he own thread to discuss when it happened.

And there you go, responding to he like he give a shit, derailing yuh own thread in the process. SMFH!!!!

Well bhai, the talk is East Indians are being oppressed, here you have a man who have gained his wealth by being a friend of the past President Bharat Jagdeo.

Invested in all kind of shady deals including the Berbice River Bridge, yet he is given a chance to bid for contracts to supply the Health Service, where he has made his billions sometimes by being the sole supplier.

Me thinks you will the jist,why i respond to the post.

Django
Django posted:
Iguana posted:
Django posted:
yuji22 posted:

Did the government not recently give Bobby a massive contract to supply Prescription medication to the Health Ministry ? The article was posted here recently.

For your information the supply to the Health Department went thru a bidding process, his Company became the best bidder.

Banna, wid all due respect, you need to pay attention to de clown posse hay and STOP RESPONDING to their red herring posts that have NOTHING to do with the topic!!!!

De Yugli man did not even ATTEMPT to address the robbery of Berbicians underway but instantly derailed de thread wid he red herring prescription shit. None of dat didn't bother he enough to start he own thread to discuss when it happened.

And there you go, responding to he like he give a shit, derailing yuh own thread in the process. SMFH!!!!

Well bhai, the talk is East Indians are being oppressed, here you have a man who have gained his wealth by being a friend of the past President Bharat Jagdeo.

Invested in all kind of shady deals including the Berbice River Bridge, yet he is given a chance to bid for contracts to supply the Health Service, where he has made his billions sometimes by being the sole supplier.

Me thinks you will the jist,why i respond to the post.

Nah, I don't get the jist. I want kno what the CLOWN posse of indian racists gat to seh about the article yuh posted. that is the topic and nothing else.

FM
Iguana posted:
Django posted:
Iguana posted:
Django posted:
yuji22 posted:

Did the government not recently give Bobby a massive contract to supply Prescription medication to the Health Ministry ? The article was posted here recently.

For your information the supply to the Health Department went thru a bidding process, his Company became the best bidder.

Banna, wid all due respect, you need to pay attention to de clown posse hay and STOP RESPONDING to their red herring posts that have NOTHING to do with the topic!!!!

De Yugli man did not even ATTEMPT to address the robbery of Berbicians underway but instantly derailed de thread wid he red herring prescription shit. None of dat didn't bother he enough to start he own thread to discuss when it happened.

And there you go, responding to he like he give a shit, derailing yuh own thread in the process. SMFH!!!!

Well bhai, the talk is East Indians are being oppressed, here you have a man who have gained his wealth by being a friend of the past President Bharat Jagdeo.

Invested in all kind of shady deals including the Berbice River Bridge, yet he is given a chance to bid for contracts to supply the Health Service, where he has made his billions sometimes by being the sole supplier.

Me thinks you will the jist,why i respond to the post.

Nah, I don't get the jist. I want kno what the CLOWN posse of indian racists gat to seh about the article yuh posted. that is the topic and nothing else.

Cronyism!!!  

BTW, I did not respond as a member of the Clown Posse but as independent thinking Baseman!!

Baseman

Rassss, me jus get bak from a photo shoot  and everyone stop givin Bobby bubby, fa bein de biggest share holder of the Berbice bridge, when he  paid the least. Only a Jagdeo government know da kinda math.  While kicking the Guyanese taxpayers to de curb. 

What a great Dr. Dr. Dr. presidential guy, jus like Trump.

Tola
Tola posted:

Rassss, me jus get bak from a photo shoot  and everyone stop givin Bobby bubby, fa bein de biggest share holder of the Berbice bridge, when he  paid the least. Only a Jagdeo government know da kinda math.  While kicking the Guyanese taxpayers to de curb. 

What a great Dr. Dr. Dr. presidential guy, jus like Trump.

How is Steven Spielberg doing?

Bibi Haniffa
GTAngler posted:
Baseman posted:
Tola posted:

Regarding the prescription medication  bidding process, I am sure he rass will not charge the price he charged, when Jagdeo was president.  Like leeches on the taxpayers.

Banna, dat mek no sense, none wah so evva, common or oddawise.  If dah Banna Ramroop suddenly come wid prices way below wah he gave the previous govt, he just handed the govt the case on a silver platter to audit the contracts awarded him by the previous govt and demand clawback.

its either Alyuh lack common sense, alyuh lake book sense, or Alyuh lack technical sense.  Anyway is like yuh lack sense all round. 

The previous govt had lots of problems but ayuh muss learn to discern sense from nonsense.  The fact that this govt awarded him the contract vindicates the previous!!

Now, guh try blow smoke up stchupit people batty!!!

Not necessarily. He can claim market prices were different.

He cannot claim that.  The historical prices are available through various sources and means, including the companies themselves.  There are sources of reference prices, including WHO and Oxfam and Caricom member states.

So, in summary, the fact that this Govt awarded him the contract is proof the former Govt awarded based on merit.  So, drop this one, Tola blowing smoke!!

Baseman

If this contract was awarded to a blackman, the PNC and AFC  Indos on GNI would have been content.  I know a little bit about Bobby, this guy has tons of money he is one of the bidders for one of the sugar factories. Let's see how that will play out.

K
Tola posted:

Rassss, me jus get bak from a photo shoot  and everyone stop givin Bobby bubby, fa bein de biggest share holder of the Berbice bridge, when he  paid the least. Only a Jagdeo government know da kinda math.  While kicking the Guyanese taxpayers to de curb. 

What a great Dr. Dr. Dr. presidential guy, jus like Trump.

Could you [please] educate us on the facts.  How much he paid for his share?  And let us know wah kinda math you using!  I'm not taking a position one way or another!

Baseman
Tola posted:

Not only a fool, but some  people are just too dumb to understand the motive of others. 

Ok, so tell us the motivation why the current govt awarded the contract to that man Alyuh seh rip off the nation on the same contract.  Tell us the motivation!

Baseman
ronan posted:
Baseman posted:

. . . the fact that this Govt awarded him the contract is proof the former Govt awarded based on merit.

are you simply a fool or just an actor playing one?

smfh

Tell us then, what is it we missing?  According to you and others, they should be in jail!

Baseman
Tola posted:

You are indeed a fool not to understand whose motivation is mentioned. 

Clue :' Tell us about your father'.

Me gone to better things. 

Well tell us what was the motivation.  And wtf does my late dad have to do with the PNC awarding this contract.  He died ages ago.

So now clown, tell us about both nah!  Don’t run like a lil girly!

yuh blowing smoke and when questioned, instead of clarifying, you blow more smoke.

Baseman
Tola posted:

You are indeed a fool not to understand whose motivation is mentioned. 

Clue :' Tell us about your father'.

Me gone to better things. 

What does his father have to do with this discussion? Why bring family members into a discussion?

People like to write crap here. The answers to these questions might direct then to educate themselves about this issue.

what is the difference between the trickle down economic theory now practiced by Trump and the concessions granted to Bobby by the Jagdeo government?

Where is the data to show that Bobby received preferential pricing for his shares. 

What is the current annual  ROI earned by common shareholders of the bridge company?

How did the lack of a widespread and vibrant stock market and money market in Guyana affect how the bridge was financed and who financed the bridge?

Is the bridge a social, public good when conceived and at present, or merely a money making private enterprise? 

Z
Zed posted:

Is the bridge a social, public good when conceived and at present, or merely a money making private enterprise? 

Me thinks you can answer the question, just look at the current toll pricing comparable to other bridge crossings in other countries. Factoring the wages of the people in the country.Lastly look at the financial model and tell if the social public good was feasible.

Django
kp posted:

If this contract was awarded to a blackman, the PNC and AFC  Indos on GNI would have been content.  I know a little bit about Bobby, this guy has tons of money he is one of the bidders for one of the sugar factories. Let's see how that will play out.

Wow  clap..clap..clap, serenading a man who made money off of the backs of the poor by cronyism.

Django

Mr.Zed,

Here is another food for thought where the brainless Russian Trained Economist is a failure.Who is still parading as maestro fooling the East Indians.

The US$200M, spent on the gaody Skeldon Sugar Factory could have been utilized differently.

Upgrade existing Sugar Factories and diversify the Industry in Region 6 and build the Berbice River Bridge.Oh no cronyism is the rule of the day.

Does it make sense ? You daon give wan man money to invest when he is clueless and especially them ones who didn't run wan cake shop.

Django
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Baseman posted:
ronan posted:
Baseman posted:

. . . the fact that this Govt awarded him the contract is proof the former Govt awarded based on merit.

are you simply a fool or just an actor playing one?

smfh

According to you and others, they should be in jail!

most definitely! . . . you read that right

it is testimony to the APNU-AFC Govt's forbearance and respect for PROCESS and the rule of law (in the main) that this pseudo-businessman continues to operate with all constitutional protections . . . his ill-gotten gains grandfathered in

 the nonsense you have posted on this thread occasions me to reflect on seignet who, in a not-so-unusual burst of candor, posted here that Indo-Guyanese have a right (obligation?) to steal as much as they can

FM
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Django posted:

Mr.Zed,

Here is another food for thought where the brainless Russian Trained Economist is a failure.Who is still parading as maestro fooling the East Indians.

The US$200M, spent on the gaody Skeldon Sugar Factory could have been utilized differently.

Upgrade existing Sugar Factories and diversify the Industry in Region 6 and build the Berbice River Bridge.Oh no cronyism is the rule of the day.

Does it make sense ? You daon give wan man money to invest when he is clueless and especially them ones who didn't run wan cake shop.

True, bad business decisions and outright corruption are two different things.  I believe both the sugar and bridge were bad investments. 

We heard so much of the corrupt deal to supply drugs to Guyana using Bobby Ramroop.  Now this govt awarded him the contract.  

So what you sayin, PPP boys already have PNC in their pockets. Well guh Rowe with the PNC!

Baseman
ronan posted:
Baseman posted:
ronan posted:
Baseman posted:

. . . the fact that this Govt awarded him the contract is proof the former Govt awarded based on merit.

are you simply a fool or just an actor playing one?

smfh

According to you and others, they should be in jail!

most definitely! . . . you read that right

it is testimony to the APNU-AFC Govt's forbearance and respect for PROCESS and the rule of law (in the main) that this pseudo-businessman continues to operate with all constitutional protections . . . his ill-gotten gains grandfathered in

 the nonsense you have posted on this thread occasions me to reflect on seignet who, in a not-so-unusual burst of candor, posted here that Indo-Guyanese have a right (obligation?) to steal as much as they can

After three years where do we stand on charges.  They have less to show than Mueller!

Baseman
Zed posted:
Tola posted:

You are indeed a fool not to understand whose motivation is mentioned. 

Clue :' Tell us about your father'.

Me gone to better things. 

What does his father have to do with this discussion? Why bring family members into a discussion?

People like to write crap here. The answers to these questions might direct then to educate themselves about this issue.

what is the difference between the trickle down economic theory now practiced by Trump and the concessions granted to Bobby by the Jagdeo government?

Where is the data to show that Bobby received preferential pricing for his shares. 

What is the current annual  ROI earned by common shareholders of the bridge company?

How did the lack of a widespread and vibrant stock market and money market in Guyana affect how the bridge was financed and who financed the bridge?

Is the bridge a social, public good when conceived and at present, or merely a money making private enterprise? 

The clown 🤡 scurrying like a cockroach in daylight when you question his nonsensical positions.  

Didnt he recently talked of some stupid book deal gone bad.  Never heard so much stupidity from a grown man.  Now he run guh dig my father out his grave!

its a simple request, show or explain your position.  Don’t pelt bricks and scurry like a cockroach!

Baseman
ronan posted:
Baseman posted:
ronan posted:
Baseman posted:

. . . the fact that this Govt awarded him the contract is proof the former Govt awarded based on merit.

are you simply a fool or just an actor playing one?

smfh

According to you and others, they should be in jail!

most definitely! . . . you read that right

it is testimony to the APNU-AFC Govt's forbearance and respect for PROCESS and the rule of law (in the main) that this pseudo-businessman continues to operate with all constitutional protections . . . his ill-gotten gains grandfathered in

 the nonsense you have posted on this thread occasions me to reflect on seignet who, in a not-so-unusual burst of candor, posted here that Indo-Guyanese have a right (obligation?) to steal as much as they can

Grow old and angry waiting!

Baseman
Baseman posted:
ronan posted:
Baseman posted:
ronan posted:
Baseman posted:

. . . the fact that this Govt awarded him the contract is proof the former Govt awarded based on merit.

are you simply a fool or just an actor playing one?

smfh

According to you and others, they should be in jail!

most definitely! . . . you read that right

it is testimony to the APNU-AFC Govt's forbearance and respect for PROCESS and the rule of law (in the main) that this pseudo-businessman continues to operate with all constitutional protections . . . his ill-gotten gains grandfathered in

 the nonsense you have posted on this thread occasions me to reflect on seignet who, in a not-so-unusual burst of candor, posted here that Indo-Guyanese have a right (obligation?) to steal as much as they can

Grow old and angry waiting!

that's cool . . . but i'm actually more interested in lifting up the dress of you and your crew so everybody can see the pus and the sores  

FM
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Baseman posted:
 

We heard so much of the corrupt deal to supply drugs to Guyana using Bobby Ramroop.  Now this govt awarded him the contract.  

 

Well the National Procurement and Tender Administration Board award the Contract, there is no shutting out of the cronies.

Check here http://www.npta.gov.gy/tender_awards.html

Supply and Delivery of Drugs & Medical Supply for Non-Communicable DiseasesNCB907/18/2018 1165/2018/43New GPC Inc$5,768,848G$
Django
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Baseman posted:

After three years where do we stand on charges.  They have less to show than Mueller!

so, this is what you are reduced to

interesting process to watch . . . this shedding skin in broad daylight

FM
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Django posted:
Baseman posted:
 

We heard so much of the corrupt deal to supply drugs to Guyana using Bobby Ramroop.  Now this govt awarded him the contract.  

 

Well the National Procurement and Tender Administration Board award the Contract, there is no shutting out of the cronies.

Check here http://www.npta.gov.gy/tender_awards.html

Supply and Delivery of Drugs & Medical Supply for Non-Communicable DiseasesNCB907/18/2018 1165/2018/43New GPC Inc$5,768,848G$

Hey Django, you can continue sit on your chair playing with your Dick and watch who gets contract.

I man gonna put my name for some contracts  .. I gone drink me coconut water and eat me cockup with a few sexy chicks around me and enjoy how ayo fighting each other... 

FM
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Dave posted:
         

Hey Django, you can continue sit on your chair playing with your Dick and watch who gets contract.

I man gonna put my name for some contact .. I gone drink me coconut water and eat me cockup with a few sexy chicks around me and enjoy how ayo fighting each other... 

Wha sk...nt  yuh  deh pun, i doan care, doan envy no one who are clean.

The post was to show how the Contract was awarded,there are insinuations the Gov't gave the contract.

Django
Django posted:
Dave posted:
         

Hey Django, you can continue sit on your chair playing with your Dick and watch who gets contract.

I man gonna put my name for some contact .. I gone drink me coconut water and eat me cockup with a few sexy chicks around me and enjoy how ayo fighting each other... 

Wha sk...nt  yuh  deh pun, i doan care, doan envy no one who are clean.

The post was to show how the Contract was awarded,there are insinuations the Gov't gave the contract.

Oh Fk.. I never meant you envy anyone, what’s wrong with you this marning. 

 

FM
Dave posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:
         

Hey Django, you can continue sit on your chair playing with your Dick and watch who gets contract.

I man gonna put my name for some contact .. I gone drink me coconut water and eat me cockup with a few sexy chicks around me and enjoy how ayo fighting each other... 

Wha sk...nt  yuh  deh pun, i doan care, doan envy no one who are clean.

The post was to show how the Contract was awarded,there are insinuations the Gov't gave the contract.

Oh Fk.. I never meant you envy anyone, what’s wrong with you this marning. 

 

You trying to show off pun Django.

Django
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ronan posted:
Baseman posted:

After three years where do we stand on charges.  They have less to show than Mueller!

so, this is what you are reduced to

interesting process to watch . . . this shedding skin in broad daylight

No, it’s the amount of time worth spending!!

Now, am I incorrect?  Some charges even got thrown out!!

Baseman
Django posted:
Dave posted:
Django posted:
Dave posted:
         

Hey Django, you can continue sit on your chair playing with your Dick and watch who gets contract.

I man gonna put my name for some contact .. I gone drink me coconut water and eat me cockup with a few sexy chicks around me and enjoy how ayo fighting each other... 

Wha sk...nt  yuh  deh pun, i doan care, doan envy no one who are clean.

The post was to show how the Contract was awarded,there are insinuations the Gov't gave the contract.

Oh Fk.. I never meant you envy anyone, what’s wrong with you this marning. 

 

You trying to show off pun Dhango.

Hey, you can be a supplier of screws and tools to the government bhai. Think think, you is wan Businessman. 

FM
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Django posted:
Zed posted:

Is the bridge a social, public good when conceived and at present, or merely a money making private enterprise? 

Me thinks you can answer the question, just look at the current toll pricing comparable to other bridge crossings in other countries. Factoring the wages of the people in the country.Lastly look at the financial model and tell if the social public good was feasible.

Often,  governments make difficult decisions based on many considerations, not just whether the financials are challenging. It is the long term vision that matters and how projects fit into and facilitate that vision. this unidimensional and deterministic type of arguments  presented here are weak. It is analogous to saying that Trump economic policies are solely intentioned for his friends to get rich.

Z
Django posted:

Mr.Zed,

Here is another food for thought where the brainless Russian Trained Economist is a failure.Who is still parading as maestro fooling the East Indians.

The US$200M, spent on the gaody Skeldon Sugar Factory could have been utilized differently.

Upgrade existing Sugar Factories and diversify the Industry in Region 6 and build the Berbice River Bridge.Oh no cronyism is the rule of the day.

Does it make sense ? You daon give wan man money to invest when he is clueless and especially them ones who didn't run wan cake shop.

This is just scrap from you, not food for thought. Hind sight is 20/20. The use of  coulda and shoulda is poor  argument. 

Please tell me which government makes decisions based solely on efficacy considerations?  Certainly, all governments make decisions that include a political dimension. Look at the money the local authorities in Buxton, PLaisance, BV, and other PNC strongholds get  to Develop their communities.

Regarding Skeldon sugar factory, my understanding was that the specs were verified by Bookers.

Z
Dave posted:
Django posted:
Baseman posted:
 

We heard so much of the corrupt deal to supply drugs to Guyana using Bobby Ramroop.  Now this govt awarded him the contract.  

 

Well the National Procurement and Tender Administration Board award the Contract, there is no shutting out of the cronies.

Check here http://www.npta.gov.gy/tender_awards.html

Supply and Delivery of Drugs & Medical Supply for Non-Communicable DiseasesNCB907/18/2018 1165/2018/43New GPC Inc$5,768,848G$

Hey Django, you can continue sit on your chair playing with your Dick and watch who gets contract.

I man gonna put my name for some contracts  .. I gone drink me coconut water and eat me cockup with a few sexy chicks around me and enjoy how ayo fighting each other... 

Pleaaaase tell me you meant COOKup.........

GTAngler
Baseman posted:
Zed posted:
Tola posted:

You are indeed a fool not to understand whose motivation is mentioned. 

Clue :' Tell us about your father'.

Me gone to better things. 

What does his father have to do with this discussion? Why bring family members into a discussion?

People like to write crap here. The answers to these questions might direct then to educate themselves about this issue.

what is the difference between the trickle down economic theory now practiced by Trump and the concessions granted to Bobby by the Jagdeo government?

Where is the data to show that Bobby received preferential pricing for his shares. 

What is the current annual  ROI earned by common shareholders of the bridge company?

How did the lack of a widespread and vibrant stock market and money market in Guyana affect how the bridge was financed and who financed the bridge?

Is the bridge a social, public good when conceived and at present, or merely a money making private enterprise? 

The clown 🤡 scurrying like a cockroach in daylight when you question his nonsensical positions.  

Didnt he recently talked of some stupid book deal gone bad.  Never heard so much stupidity from a grown man.  Now he run guh dig my father out his grave!

its a simple request, show or explain your position.  Don’t pelt bricks and scurry like a cockroach!

Is this your idea of an argument? Is this all you have to counter what I have written? Use the brains that god gave you to make sense instead of the drivel and cuss down you post here marquerading as arguments and logic.

Z
Zed posted:
Baseman posted:
Zed posted:
Tola posted:

You are indeed a fool not to understand whose motivation is mentioned. 

Clue :' Tell us about your father'.

Me gone to better things. 

What does his father have to do with this discussion? Why bring family members into a discussion?

People like to write crap here. The answers to these questions might direct then to educate themselves about this issue.

what is the difference between the trickle down economic theory now practiced by Trump and the concessions granted to Bobby by the Jagdeo government?

Where is the data to show that Bobby received preferential pricing for his shares. 

What is the current annual  ROI earned by common shareholders of the bridge company?

How did the lack of a widespread and vibrant stock market and money market in Guyana affect how the bridge was financed and who financed the bridge?

Is the bridge a social, public good when conceived and at present, or merely a money making private enterprise? 

The clown 🤡 scurrying like a cockroach in daylight when you question his nonsensical positions.  

Didnt he recently talked of some stupid book deal gone bad.  Never heard so much stupidity from a grown man.  Now he run guh dig my father out his grave!

its a simple request, show or explain your position.  Don’t pelt bricks and scurry like a cockroach!

Is this your idea of an argument? Is this all you have to counter what I have written? Use the brains that god gave you to make sense instead of the drivel and cuss down you post here marquerading as arguments and logic.

I was not countering you Zed!

Baseman
Baseman posted:
Zed posted:

Thanks for the clarification. Comedy of errors. I thought I was countering Ronan.

Understood.  I made the same error with GTANGLER the other day!

 

Bai like you r@ss ah get ole or wah.

FM
GTAngler posted:
Dave posted:
         

Hey Django, you can continue sit on your chair playing with your Dick and watch who gets contract.

I man gonna put my name for some contracts  .. I gone drink me coconut water and eat me cockup with a few sexy chicks around me and enjoy how ayo fighting each other... 

Pleaaaase tell me you meant COOKup.........

Bai, being gay is 2nd nature to the Indo KKK hay suh he probably mean wha he seh. Most of the posts by de indo KKK got some gay reference or open gay talk. Yuh bai "Dave" mek a freudian slip. Look at the Mahdia monument thread and all ah dem dribblin' at de picture and supposing dis and dat about it.

Pon anodda thread one Indo KKK ask Labba if he gat "kaak". You ever see a straight heterosexual man ask anodda man if he got a "kaak"? Dese bannas are friggin' gay!!!!

FM
ronan posted:
Baseman posted:

After three years where do we stand on charges.  They have less to show than Mueller!

so, this is what you are reduced to

interesting process to watch . . . this shedding skin in broad daylight

Dis Baseman is a slippery character. He mekking bake and sol fish fuh Granger in he basement, sehing Granger is a "good man" and dat he know de man well. Meanwhile he openly defendin' and promotin' he frens in de PPP. Ah guess de lil tidbits he taut granger gon give he fail to materialize

FM
Iguana posted:
ronan posted:
Baseman posted:

After three years where do we stand on charges.  They have less to show than Mueller!

so, this is what you are reduced to

interesting process to watch . . . this shedding skin in broad daylight

Dis Baseman is a slippery character. He mekking bake and sol fish fuh Granger in he basement, sehing Granger is a "good man" and dat he know de man well. Meanwhile he openly defendin' and promotin' he frens in de PPP. Ah guess de lil tidbits he taut granger gon give he fail to materialize

Easy to figure out: the Base is getting soup from both parties. Hope he doesn't shoot me now. 

FM
Iguana posted:
ronan posted:
Baseman posted:

After three years where do we stand on charges.  They have less to show than Mueller!

so, this is what you are reduced to

interesting process to watch . . . this shedding skin in broad daylight

Dis Baseman is a slippery character. He mekking bake and sol fish fuh Granger in he basement, sehing Granger is a "good man" and dat he know de man well. Meanwhile he openly defendin' and promotin' he frens in de PPP. Ah guess de lil tidbits he taut granger gon give he fail to materialize

Oh iggy, one could walk and chew gum at the same time..,.no?

I have frenns in the PPP, PNC and AFC.  I am for and against things in all those parties.  You bettuh get real, dem PNC boys and dem PPP boys rubbing shoulders and dem PNC boys awarding dem PPP boys big contracts.  Ayuh relax!!

Baseman
Baseman posted:

I have frenns in the PPP, PNC and AFC.  I am for and against things in all those parties.  You bettuh get real, dem PNC boys and dem PPP boys rubbing shoulders and dem PNC boys awarding dem PPP boys big contracts.

that’s nice . . . yaaawwnnn

FM
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