Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years
By Annalyn Censky @CNNMoney September 2, 2011: 3:13 PM ET

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- The August jobs report was dismal for plenty of reasons, but perhaps most striking was the picture it painted of racial inequality in the job market.
Black unemployment surged to 16.7% in August, its highest level since 1984, while the unemployment rate for whites fell slightly to 8%, the Labor Department reported.
"This month's numbers continue to bear out that longstanding pattern that minorities have a much more challenging time getting jobs," said Bill Rodgers, chief economist with the Heldrich Center for Workforce Development at Rutgers University.
Black unemployment has been roughly double that of whites since the government started tracking the figures in 1972.
Economists blame a variety of factors. The black workforce is younger than the white workforce, lower numbers of blacks get a college degree and many live in areas of the country that were harder hit by the recession -- all things that could lead to a higher unemployment rate.
But even excluding those factors, blacks still are hit with higher joblessness.
Unemployment rate, state by state
"Even when you compare black and white workers, same age range, same education, you still see pretty significant gaps in unemployment rates," said Algernon Austin, director of the Race, Ethnicity, and the Economy program at the Economic Policy Institute. "So I do think the fact of racial discrimination in the labor market continues to play a role."
About 155,000 blacks got jobs in August, but the group's unemployment rate still went up because those jobs weren't enough to make up for all the people who started looking for work during the month.
However, the gain for whites of 211,000 jobs was enough to bring their unemployment rate down.

Overall, black men have it the worst, with joblessness at a staggeringly high 19.1%, compared to 14.5% for black women.
Black unemployment has now remained above 10% for four straight years, and the given current economic sluggishness, some experts say it's safe to predict the rate will remain above 10% for four more years.
"Our job creation is just not happening -- certainly not at the rate necessarily to bring rapid reductions to the unemployment rate," Austin said.
Latinos saw their unemployment rate remain unchanged at 11.3% in August. Unemployment remains at 9.1% for the country as a whole.
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Originally posted by Lucas:
Caribj seems to believe that the US is a paradise for blacks.


Guyanese blacks flee to the USA. US blacks do not even visit Guyana. Clearly the USA is better for blacks than Guyana.

You havent even told us what unemployment for blacks in Guyana is. Dont include people scuffling on the side walk as employed either.
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Originally posted by Wally:
Obama has done absolutely nothing for people of colour except being the first man of color to become President.



The level of black male unemployment is almost the same as the great depression.


Well I said that a while ago and his disciples here Kari and Kiddie rushed to his defense.

Right now his people are panicking because their quick polls show that loads of blacks dont plan to vote next year.

This means with a sharo drop in white and Hispanic support predicted Obama is fast on his way to be a distinguished professor at Harvard or Oxford by Feb 2013. He will be much better at that.
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Originally posted by Lucas:
Caribj seems to believe that the US is a paradise for blacks.


Brazil is such a paradise for blacks that they are now building a wall around them in the ghettos. Massa don't wanna see them and when tourists come for the World Cup, they must be hidden from public view. Go read about Social Apartheid in Brazil clown.
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Originally posted by AndrΓ©:
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Originally posted by Lucas:
Caribj seems to believe that the US is a paradise for blacks.


Brazil is such a paradise for blacks that they are now building a wall around them in the ghettos. Massa don't wanna see them and when tourists come for the World Cup, they must be hidden from public view. Go read about Social Apartheid in Brazil clown.

Bai, don't bust Lucas bubble. Dat man think Brazil and China are the anwsers to all the world's social ills.
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Originally posted by asj:
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Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years


Racialism continues in the USA as it was 27 years ago.

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BS, we employed a black president. On the serious side, I do think there is an element of racism in Corporate US however, the issue of black unemployment being higher has always been there. This economy only exasperates the issue.
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Originally posted by AndrΓ©:
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Originally posted by Lucas:
Caribj seems to believe that the US is a paradise for blacks.


Brazil is such a paradise for blacks that they are now building a wall around them in the ghettos. Massa don't wanna see them and when tourists come for the World Cup, they must be hidden from public view. Go read about Social Apartheid in Brazil clown.

Who told you that only blacks lived in the favelas? Poor Brazilians are of all colors.
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Originally posted by Lucas:
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Who told you that only blacks lived in the favelas? Poor Brazilians are of all colors.



How many blacks live in upper middle or wealthy parts of Rio or Sao Paulo.

The USA has a prosperous upper middle class black population. A black president, black owned invetsment banks and law firms. We have black CEOs of huge US corporations.

Now tell us about Brazil. Hey they hardkly efven put blacks on TV even though they are pribably about 20% of the population. Blacks in Brazil have it so hard that they do not even want to be called black!!! To them tahts an insult and a hardship and to be avoidied once possible.
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Originally posted by caribj:
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Originally posted by Lucas:
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Who told you that only blacks lived in the favelas? Poor Brazilians are of all colors.



How many blacks live in upper middle or wealthy parts of Rio or Sao Paulo.

The USA has a prosperous upper middle class black population. A black president, black owned invetsment banks and law firms. We have black CEOs of huge US corporations.

Now tell us about Brazil. Hey they hardkly efven put blacks on TV even though they are pribably about 20% of the population. Blacks in Brazil have it so hard that they do not even want to be called black!!! To them tahts an insult and a hardship and to be avoidied once possible.

Your idea of a black man is different from Brazil's. Some time a colored man could be regarded as black sometimes as something else. Colored people notice this ambiguity and use it in their favor. I believe just a 10% of Brazilians are pure black, so don't expect to see a black majority in the south which was settled by Central Europeans.
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Originally posted by Lucas:
Your idea of a black man is different from Brazil's. .


yes in Brazil being black is so horrible that nobody wants to be black except if your skin looks like black polish. So yes 7% have skin like shoe polish but the others who are majority African escape because they dont.

I went to see teh infamous "mulatas" at one of the cabaret shows in rio. Those girls looked like Wendy Fitzwilliams and Janelle Commissiong, basically black even by West Indian standards with fine nose and small lips. Their small noses and lips allowed them teh esacpe from the "horror" of blackness.

This to you is progress. That Brazil makes it easy for peopole to escape the "curse" of being black or embrace the "goodness" of being white.

Having said all of that all those who find 200 ways of not wanting to be black end up almost as bad as those too dark to escape from the "sin" of being black.

Any fight you try to start comparing the socio-economic status of blacks and dark mulattos in Brazil with blacks in the USA will end up making you look stupid. Caribbean black immigrants make 85% of what white households in the USA make. Most Caribbean blacks will be called black in Brazil.

There is absolutely no way that, had Caribbean blacks migrated to Brazil instead of the USA, they would have enjoyed the moderate success that they have achieved in the USA. The USA has its racial issues. At least it is honest about it and has made strides in resolving this.

Brazil is still boasting that it makes it easy to escape the "curse" of being blacks so they most earn bonus points for that. The silly white/light skinned Brazilians who say this will call one a racist of one says they have no need to escape as they see nothing wrong with being black.

All you can talk about in Brazil is that some one like Sheila Holder will be white even though people who look like her usually only progress if they are in the arms of some rich white man. People looking like her are little different, despite being called one of teh 200 ways of not being black, than a man like Eric Phillips. They both are poor, almost absent from the elite classes and she will most likely be a maid in Brazil. YES A MAID!!!!

Where is your Oprah in Brazil? Do you know that she is the richest self made women in teh world....no she didnt get her wealth from her daddy. yes this is what the USA offers. The only country where blacks are a minority that this is possible.

As bad off as blacks in Guyana are they are miles ahead of their counterparts in Brazil.
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Originally posted by Lucas:
Caribj,
It must be really upsetting for you to see the rise of Brazil as one of the world powers.


I am not upset because until Brazil learns to stop using skin color as criteria for social progress it will always remain POOR. 50% of its peoples are not white.

If the average WHITE Brazilian only has primary school education Brazil will remain POOR. Most non white Brazilians never even finished primary school!!!!!Even Guyana does better than that.
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Originally posted by caribj:
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Originally posted by Lucas:
Caribj,
It must be really upsetting for you to see the rise of Brazil as one of the world powers.


I am not upset because until Brazil learns to stop using skin color as criteria for social progress it will always remain POOR. 50% of its peoples are not white.

If the average WHITE Brazilian only has primary school education Brazil will remain POOR. Most non white Brazilians never even finished primary school!!!!!Even Guyana does better than that.

Don't be ridiculous!
Guyana doesn't do better than any country in the western hemisphere but Haiti.
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Originally posted by Lucas:
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Originally posted by caribj:
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Originally posted by Lucas:
Caribj,
It must be really upsetting for you to see the rise of Brazil as one of the world powers.


I am not upset because until Brazil learns to stop using skin color as criteria for social progress it will always remain POOR. 50% of its peoples are not white.

If the average WHITE Brazilian only has primary school education Brazil will remain POOR. Most non white Brazilians never even finished primary school!!!!!Even Guyana does better than that.

Don't be ridiculous!
Guyana doesn't do better than any country in the western hemisphere but Haiti.



Brazilians are less educated than Guyanese. That indeed is a fact. Almost all Guyanese have had at least a primary school education, and this has been true for almost 50 years.

In Brazil this is not true. And definitely not for their nonwhite populations.

http://www.nationmaster.com/gr...ars-schooling-adults
Dudes it is very simple . When Spike and others opened stores in black neighborhoods blacks did not buy they prefered Hilfiger etc . I say again , if blacks support black business whites and others would be up sh1t creek vying for their dollars . Indians buy from indians businesses so do chinese , koreans, russians , italians and so on now blacks have to look learn and implement.
No excuses !
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Originally posted by kidmost:
Dudes it is very simple . When Spike and others opened stores in black neighborhoods blacks did not buy they prefered Hilfiger etc . I say again , if blacks support black business whites and others would be up sh1t creek vying for their dollars . Indians buy from indians businesses so do chinese , koreans, russians , italians and so on now blacks have to look learn and implement.
No excuses !


careful what you wish for. If blacks in Guyana didnt buy from Indians many will go broke. You do recall the hysteria when some one tried to lead a boycott of Indo businesses by blacks some time back. Ogunseye or Waddell I think.

Spike did quite well with his movies. Almost all who went to see them were blacks. Malcom X was largely funded by blacks like Oprah.