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Empty village raises concerns about fate of black Libyans

By DAVID ENDERS
McClatchy Newsbpapers

TAWERGHA, Libya -- This town was once home to thousands of mostly black non-Arab residents. Now, the only manmade sound is a generator that powers a small militia checkpoint, where rebels say the town is a "closed military area."

What happened to the residents of Tawergha appears to be another sign that despite the rebel leadership's pledges that it will exact no revenge on supporters of deposed dictator Moammar Gadhafi, Libya's new rulers often are dealing harshly with the country's black residents.

According to Tawergha residents, rebel soldiers from Misrata forced them from their homes on Aug. 15 when they took control of the town. The residents were then apparently driven out of a pair of refugee camps in Tripoli over this past weekend.

"The Misrata people are still looking for black people," said Hassan, a Tawergha resident who is now sheltering in a third camp in Janzour, six miles east of Tripoli. "One of the men who came to this camp told me my brother was killed yesterday by the revolutionaries."

On Tuesday, Amnesty International issued a report on human rights issues in Libya that included claims that the rebels had abused prisoners, conducted revenge killings and removed pro-Gadhafi fighters from hospitals.

Dalia Eltahawy, an Amnesty researcher, said the Tawerghis "are certainly a very vulnerable group and need to be protected." She called on the rebel leadership to "investigate and bring people to justice" for those abuses "to avoid a culture of impunity."

But rebel leaders, in their response, made no mention of Tawergha, though they promised to "move quickly ... to make sure similar abuses are avoided in areas of continued conflict such as Bani Walid and Sirte."

"While the Amnesty report is overwhelmingly filled with the horrific abuses and killings by the Gadhafi regime, there are a small number of incidents involving those opposed to Gadhafi," the rebels' ruling National Transitional Council said in a statement. "The NTC strongly condemns any abuses perpetrated by either side."

There's no doubt that until last month, Tawergha was used by Gadhafi forces as a base from which to fire artillery into Misrata, which lies about 25 miles north.

Misratans say, however, that Tawergha's involvement on Gadhafi's side went deeper: Many of the village's residents openly participated in an offensive against Misrata that left more than 1,000 dead and as many missing, they say.

"Look on YouTube and you will see hundreds of Tawerghi men saying, 'We're coming to get you, Misrata,'" said Ahmed Sawehli, a psychiatrist in Misrata. "They shot the videos themselves with their cellphones."

The Tawerghis do not deny that some from the town fought for Gadhafi, but they say they are victims of a pre-existing racism in Libya that has manifested itself violently during the revolution.

The evidence that the rebels' pursuit of the Tawerghis did not end with the collapse of the Gadhafi regime is visible, both in the emptiness of this village and that of the camps to which the residents fled.

At one, in a Turkish-owned industrial complex in the Salah al Deen neighborhood of southern Tripoli, a man looting metal from the complex simply said that the Tawerghis had "gone to Niger," the country that borders Libya on the south where some Gadhafi supporters, including the deposed dictator's son Saadi, have fled.

Abandoned blankets and mattresses littered the area, and laundry still hung drying. Aside from some extinguished cooking fires and piles of trash, there was little else to suggest human habitation.

Lafy Mohammed, whose house is across the road from the complex, said that on Saturday a group of revolutionary militiamen from Misrata, 120 miles east of Tripoli, had come to the camp and evicted its tenants.

"They arrested about 25 of the men," Mohammed said. "They were shooting in the air and hitting them with their rifle butts.

"They took the women, old men and children out in trucks," he said.

Mohammed said that it was not the first time the revolutionaries from Misrata had come after the people in the camp.

"A week ago they were here, but (the people in the neighborhood) begged them to leave them alone," Mohammed said.

Mohammed said some of the Tawerghis may have been taken to another nearby camp, in a Brazilian-owned industrial complex. On Tuesday, that camp was empty as well, with the gate locked.

Reached by phone at the camp in Janzour, Hassan, who did not want his last name used, said he had escaped from the Brazilian company camp on Saturday, when it, too, was raided. He said about 1,000 Tawerghis were now at the Janzour camp.

"They arrested 35 men, but they let me go because I was with my family," Hassan said. He blamed a brigade of fighters from Misrata.

In Tawergha, the rebel commander said his men had orders not to allow any of the residents back in. He also said that unexploded ordinance remained in the area, though none was readily apparent.

Most homes and buildings in the area appeared to have been damaged in the fighting, and a half-dozen appeared to have been ransacked. The main road into the village was blocked with earthen berms. Signs marking the way to the village appeared to have been destroyed.

On the only sign remaining "Tawergha" had been painted over with the words "New Misrata."

On one wall in Tawergha, graffiti referred to the town's residents as "abeed," a slur for blacks.

(Enders is a McClatchy Newspapers special correspondent.)

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Massacre of Blacks in Libya By NATO-backed Rebels Continues As World Watches
United Nations Says "No Comment" On Ethnic Cleansing Of Black Libyans

by Milton Allimadi
Global Research, September 18, 2011

The Wall Street Journal reports today that Black people have been emptied from the City of Tawergha in Libya, their homes razed, and that the words "slaves" and "negroes" are scribbled on their abandoned buildings in the now ghost town by the NATO-backed rebels.

The chilling account of ethnic-cleansing of Black people in Libya, occurring right before our eyes, appears under the headline "Revenge Feeds Instability in Libya."

These are the "liberators" that President Barack Obama, President Nicolas Sarkozy and Prime Minister David Cameron helped install in Libya to replace Maummar al-Quathafi? They all rejected an African Union proposal that would have brought a ceasefire and the warring parties to a table to create a constitution and to hold elections.

Meanwhile, the so-called "prime minister" of the "rebels" Mahmoud Jibril, is quoted in the Journal, with respect to the fate of the Black citizens of Tawergha, saying: "Regarding Tawergha my own viewpoint is that nobody has the right to interfere in this matter except the people of Misurata," who are actually the ones doing the cleansing. Surely Jibril knows that he's inciting to further ethnic cleansing.

An earlier Wall Street Journal article had reported that the Misurata unit carrying out the deed is called "The Brigade for Purging Slaves, black Skin." So we are witnessing genocide of Black people in Africa again and doing nothing. Simply because Washington, London, and Paris happen to support the "rebels" who are committing the targeted killings.

"Now, rebels have been torching homes in the abandoned city 25 miles to the south," of Misurata, reports the Journal. The Journal's reporter also witnessed the burning of "more than a dozen homes," and adds, "On the gates of many vandalized homes in the country's only coastal city dominated by dark-skinned people, light-skinned rebels scrawled the words 'slaves' and 'negroes.'"

The White House has yet to issue a single statement condemning this ethnic cleansing of Black people. Hillary Clinton's Department of State remains mute. The leaders of organizations that profess to protect the rights of Black people, such as the NAACP's Ben Jealous and the National Urban League's Marc Morial, have yet to make statements. Surely, someone must read The Wall Street Journal.

This is the second article detailing the specific campaign to wipe out Black Libyans that The Journal has reported on; the first article was on June 21, 2011.

Other major corporate media, such as The New York Times, CNN, and BBC, all of which to varying degrees surrendered pretense at "objectivity" and openly supported the NATO bombardments are now in a bind. They have yet to report major stories on the ethnic cleansing in Misurata and Tawergha. Rather than concede that the side they supported in the
civil war is carrying out war crimes they would rather suppress the story.

Welcome to the 21st Century; the Newspeak George Orwell feared.

Had it not been for The Wall Street Journal breaking ranks with other corporate media, this genocide might well have been concealed and attributed to a figment of al-Quathafi's imagination.

Even the United Nations was unable to respond today to the ethnic cleansing reports when contacted by The Black Star News, and after the Journal's reports were forwarded. A spokesman for Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon was asked whether: the targeted actions qualified as ethnic cleansing; whether they qualified as war crimes, and; whether the United Nations is demanding for an investigation.

The spokesman, Eduardo del Buey, ignored the specific questions and responded with a statement from the UN's High Commissioner for Human Rights, Navi Pillay, which in part states that “In situations of transition or unrest, restraint must be observed.”

Small comfort to the now depleted citizenry of Tawergha.

"We are not commenting on media reports. The High Commissioner speaks to the issue of human rights, and this is what she has said to date in Libya," Eduardo del Buey added.

When contacted for reaction, Brenda Jones, a spokesperson for Congressman John Lewis, stressed that Rep. Lewis, the civil rights hero, as a matter of principle, opposes warfare as solutions for resolving disputes even though there might have been legitimate human rights concerns. "He does not agree with war because of its ramifications, because it leads to these moral compromises," she said. "It puts you in a difficult position, where you have to commit the same crimes that you are intending to stop."

More U.S. elected officials and ordinary Americans of all races should read The Wall Street Journal's accounts and weigh in on the reported crimes being committed by the rebels. They are, after all, in power due in part to American support.

The Journal articles also quotes a Misratan rebel leader, Mohammed Ben Ras Ali, saying, "Tawergha is no more."

How many times does the world have to keep saying "never again"?

Editor's Note: Readers are not obliged to stand by and watch the ethnic cleansing of Black people in Libya. Please call The New York Times at (212) 556-1234 and ask Foreign editor Joe Kahn why the Times hasn't done major stories on the Tawergha and Misurata war crimes. Also pose the same question to Times Publisher Sulzberger.

"Speaking Truth To Empower."
FM
The black men's burden
By Southern Times Writer 09-09-2011


Windhoek - The de facto authority in Tripoli, the National Transitional Council, has been accused of orchestrating the mass arrest of blacks and other people from Sub-Saharan Africa over the past week.

However, there has been evidence – largely ignored by the pro-rebellion media in Africa and the West – that the rebels had been lynching blacks from the start of their uprising against Muammar Gaddafi nearly six months ago.

On June 21, the Wall Street Journal ('Libya city torn by tribal feud') reported that rebels in Misrata, calling themselves the 'Brigade for purging slaves, black skin', were carrying out ethnic cleansing.

Despite that report, there were no follow-ups by the United Nations, African Union or NATO and now the problem appears to be engulfing the entire country.

There were an estimated one million migrant workers in Libya before the war started, mostly from neighbouring countries and from farther afield.

It is estimated 100 000 remain and international human rights groups have reported over the past week how the rebels are systematically targeting blacks.

Such attacks started in Benghazi months ago but were largely ignored as the media generally took the position of supporting the rebels and the NATO onslaught.

The evidence has now become too glaring to ignore.
Human rights organizations say tens of thousands of African migrants in Libya have been displaced from their homes and jobs and many are living in fear.

Amnesty International investigators visited the Central Tripoli Hospital and the capital's morgue where they witnessed abuses, including men being dragged from hospital beds and detained, the London-based group said in a statement.

'The problem is black Libyans always were seen as outsiders, and this stems probably from how Gaddafi decided he would be an African leader of an African state and encouraged a large amount of African immigrants, some of whom served in his wars,' Shashank Joshi, an associate fellow at the Royal United Services Institute in the UK reportedly commented.

In visits to detention centers in Zawiya and Tripoli, Amnesty International said between a third and a half of those detained were from Sub-Saharan Africa.

African Union Commission chair Jean Ping said the rebels seemed 'to confuse black people with mercenaries'.
During an August 28 visit to a poor residential area of Tripoli, Amnesty International investigators found a group of Eritreans who wouldn't leave their homes because they feared being attacked, according to the report.

The following day, Amnesty said its investigators saw three rebels drag a black Libyan from his bed at the Central Tripoli Hospital and detain him.

Two other black Libyans receiving treatment for gunshot wounds were told by anti-Qaddafi forces that 'their turn was coming'.
Amnesty said its workers examined that same day the body of an unidentified black man who was brought into the Tripoli Medical Center morgue by unknown men.

His feet and torso were tied and blood was smudged around his mouth.
At Sidi Blal Port about 1 000 workers from Sub-Saharan Africa have taken refuge.

Although fighting in this part of Libya has largely ended they say they are being threatened by gunmen.
Aminu Zimbo, from Ghana, was quoted saying: 'They just came (rebel gunmen).

They are shooting guns. We run.
'Our passports were in the room. We just escaped. Because they kill lots of Ghanaians there. They kill all blacks. That is why we decided to run.'

Armed and unarmed rebels have been rounding up migrant workers across Libya and detaining them in dehumanizing conditions just because of their skin colour.

At the Gate of the Sea Sports Club about 200 detainees - all black – were confined in a soccer field and were photographed huddled against a wall to try and avoid the scorching sun.

The Geneva-based International Organization for Migration said the security situation for blacks in Libya was volatile.
IOM spokeswoman Jemini Pandya said migrants were even afraid to go out in search of food and water because the rebels would get them.
'Among them are a group of 800 sub-Saharan Africans who are currently stranded at a fishing port on the Tripoli coast,' she said.
The IOM has evacuated nearly 1 600 people from Libya, but many more remain.

Throughout the crisis, the IOM spokeswoman said, Sub-Saharan Africans have been particularly subject to physical attacks and murder.
'Sub-Saharan Africans, they are either perceived to have been mercenaries or associated with mercenaries.

'So that is a possible reason for why they would be targeted. I'm not sure. I cannot really say that this is the case for every single story that we have heard. But certainly it is a factor,' Pandya said.

Human Rights Watch said people were being detained solely because of their skin colour.
'It's a dangerous time to be dark-skinned in Tripoli,' said Sarah Leah Whitson, Middle East and North Africa director at Human Rights Watch.
'The NTC should stop arresting African migrants and black Libyans unless it has concrete evidence of criminal activity.
'It should also take immediate steps to protect them from violence and abuse.'

Human Rights Watch called on the immediate release of all those detained without evidence of criminal activity.
'African migrants have worked in Libya for many years, often carrying out the most unpleasant jobs, and this is no way to treat those who stayed put during the uprising.'

At the Maftuah Prison, Human Rights Watch saw about 300 detainees on September 1, including some who had been wounded in fighting.
About 50 of the detainees were Libyan and the rest were Sub-Saharan Africans.

Most of the blacks Human Rights Watch interviewed in crowded cells said armed men picked them up for no reason after NATO-backed NTC forces seized Tripoli.

The conditions for the Libyan detainees were acceptable, but the Sub-Saharan Africans were in overcrowded cells with a putrid stench.
One cell had 26 people and six mattresses.

Musa S, a 25-year-old from Mali, said armed Libyan men arrested him on August 21 at his house in the Bin Ashour neighborhood.
'At about 10pm a big group of Libyans came with the owner of the building.

'They tied us up, took all of our passports and possessions, and beat us.
'They brought us to a big mosque in the neighborhood, and then they went to other African houses and arrested them.
'In the end, they had more than 200 Africans in there. Then they put us on vehicles and took us around town shouting 'Allahu Akhbar!' (God is great) and saying we were mercenaries they had captured.'

There are sections of the Libyan population that have for long resented blacks and there is now a real fear that they will be purged under the cover of the NTC's claims of hunting down pro-Gaddafi mercenaries.
â€Ē Sourced from various news agencies
FM
quote:
Originally posted by Lucas:
The black men's burden
By Southern Times Writer 09-09-2011


Windhoek - The de facto authority in Tripoli, the National Transitional Council, has been accused of orchestrating the mass arrest of blacks and other people from Sub-Saharan Africa over the past week.

However, there has been evidence – largely ignored by the pro-rebellion media in Africa and the West – that the rebels had been lynching blacks from the start of their uprising against Muammar Gaddafi nearly six months ago.

On June 21, the Wall Street Journal ('Libya city torn by tribal feud') reported that rebels in Misrata, calling themselves the 'Brigade for purging slaves, black skin', were carrying out ethnic cleansing.

Despite that report, there were no follow-ups by the United Nations, African Union or NATO and now the problem appears to be engulfing the entire country.

There were an estimated one million migrant workers in Libya before the war started, mostly from neighbouring countries and from farther afield.

It is estimated 100 000 remain and international human rights groups have reported over the past week how the rebels are systematically targeting blacks.

Such attacks started in Benghazi months ago but were largely ignored as the media generally took the position of supporting the rebels and the NATO onslaught.

The evidence has now become too glaring to ignore.
Human rights organizations say tens of thousands of African migrants in Libya have been displaced from their homes and jobs and many are living in fear.

Amnesty International investigators visited the Central Tripoli Hospital and the capital's morgue where they witnessed abuses, including men being dragged from hospital beds and detained, the London-based group said in a statement.

'The problem is black Libyans always were seen as outsiders, and this stems probably from how Gaddafi decided he would be an African leader of an African state and encouraged a large amount of African immigrants, some of whom served in his wars,' Shashank Joshi, an associate fellow at the Royal United Services Institute in the UK reportedly commented.

In visits to detention centers in Zawiya and Tripoli, Amnesty International said between a third and a half of those detained were from Sub-Saharan Africa.

African Union Commission chair Jean Ping said the rebels seemed 'to confuse black people with mercenaries'.
During an August 28 visit to a poor residential area of Tripoli, Amnesty International investigators found a group of Eritreans who wouldn't leave their homes because they feared being attacked, according to the report.

The following day, Amnesty said its investigators saw three rebels drag a black Libyan from his bed at the Central Tripoli Hospital and detain him.

Two other black Libyans receiving treatment for gunshot wounds were told by anti-Qaddafi forces that 'their turn was coming'.
Amnesty said its workers examined that same day the body of an unidentified black man who was brought into the Tripoli Medical Center morgue by unknown men.

His feet and torso were tied and blood was smudged around his mouth.
At Sidi Blal Port about 1 000 workers from Sub-Saharan Africa have taken refuge.

Although fighting in this part of Libya has largely ended they say they are being threatened by gunmen.
Aminu Zimbo, from Ghana, was quoted saying: 'They just came (rebel gunmen).

They are shooting guns. We run.
'Our passports were in the room. We just escaped. Because they kill lots of Ghanaians there. They kill all blacks. That is why we decided to run.'

Armed and unarmed rebels have been rounding up migrant workers across Libya and detaining them in dehumanizing conditions just because of their skin colour.

At the Gate of the Sea Sports Club about 200 detainees - all black – were confined in a soccer field and were photographed huddled against a wall to try and avoid the scorching sun.

The Geneva-based International Organization for Migration said the security situation for blacks in Libya was volatile.
IOM spokeswoman Jemini Pandya said migrants were even afraid to go out in search of food and water because the rebels would get them.
'Among them are a group of 800 sub-Saharan Africans who are currently stranded at a fishing port on the Tripoli coast,' she said.
The IOM has evacuated nearly 1 600 people from Libya, but many more remain.

Throughout the crisis, the IOM spokeswoman said, Sub-Saharan Africans have been particularly subject to physical attacks and murder.
'Sub-Saharan Africans, they are either perceived to have been mercenaries or associated with mercenaries.

'So that is a possible reason for why they would be targeted. I'm not sure. I cannot really say that this is the case for every single story that we have heard. But certainly it is a factor,' Pandya said.

Human Rights Watch said people were being detained solely because of their skin colour.
'It's a dangerous time to be dark-skinned in Tripoli,' said Sarah Leah Whitson, Middle East and North Africa director at Human Rights Watch.
'The NTC should stop arresting African migrants and black Libyans unless it has concrete evidence of criminal activity.
'It should also take immediate steps to protect them from violence and abuse.'

Human Rights Watch called on the immediate release of all those detained without evidence of criminal activity.
'African migrants have worked in Libya for many years, often carrying out the most unpleasant jobs, and this is no way to treat those who stayed put during the uprising.'

At the Maftuah Prison, Human Rights Watch saw about 300 detainees on September 1, including some who had been wounded in fighting.
About 50 of the detainees were Libyan and the rest were Sub-Saharan Africans.

Most of the blacks Human Rights Watch interviewed in crowded cells said armed men picked them up for no reason after NATO-backed NTC forces seized Tripoli.

The conditions for the Libyan detainees were acceptable, but the Sub-Saharan Africans were in overcrowded cells with a putrid stench.
One cell had 26 people and six mattresses.

Musa S, a 25-year-old from Mali, said armed Libyan men arrested him on August 21 at his house in the Bin Ashour neighborhood.
'At about 10pm a big group of Libyans came with the owner of the building.

'They tied us up, took all of our passports and possessions, and beat us.
'They brought us to a big mosque in the neighborhood, and then they went to other African houses and arrested them.
'In the end, they had more than 200 Africans in there. Then they put us on vehicles and took us around town shouting 'Allahu Akhbar!' (God is great) and saying we were mercenaries they had captured.'

There are sections of the Libyan population that have for long resented blacks and there is now a real fear that they will be purged under the cover of the NTC's claims of hunting down pro-Gaddafi mercenaries.
â€Ē Sourced from various news agencies




If Obama was in Libya looking for work. He too most likely would have been rounded up like in this picture.
Wally
quote:
Originally posted by Wally:
I just saw a BBC report of a black guy being beaten really badly by the rebels. This is not good. Most of those black people went to Libya because of economics not because they support Gaddafi. One thing I know for sure all of the black African countries will now be behind Gaddafi.
you need to read a little more Turaigs, a dark skinned berber tribal group were the enforcers for the Gadafi regime and from all indication they took to their jobs with some alacrity. Ordinary Libyans saw them as the regime and when it fell all dark persons were targets for retribution. Blame this on Gaddafi. He pitted tribal people against each other. There was no summoning political culture in Libya. The place was ruled by various alliances who controlled local turf as fiefdoms to Gaddafi.
FM
quote:
Originally posted by Wally:
I just saw a BBC report of a black guy being beaten really badly by the rebels. This is not good. Most of those black people went to Libya because of economics not because they support Gaddafi. One thing I know for sure all of the black African countries will now be behind Gaddafi.

This is not right, hope their backers step up. Hope Obama step in.
FM
quote:
Originally posted by Lucas:
Empty village raises concerns about fate of black Libyans

By DAVID ENDERS
McClatchy Newsbpapers

The Tawerghis do not deny that some from the town fought for Gadhafi, but they say they are victims of a pre-existing racism in Libya that has manifested itself violently during the revolution.

.

(Enders is a McClatchy Newspapers special correspondent.)


Lucas why did you miss this part. Racism existed under Gadaffi and it exists today and the violence towards these people is rooted in that.

In 2000 there were widespread maassacres of blacks. How come Gaddafi didnt prevent this?
FM
quote:
Originally posted by baseman:
quote:
Originally posted by Wally:
I just saw a BBC report of a black guy being beaten really badly by the rebels. This is not good. Most of those black people went to Libya because of economics not because they support Gaddafi. One thing I know for sure all of the black African countries will now be behind Gaddafi.

This is not right, hope their backers step up. Hope Obama step in.


When Obama sees black he runs in the opposite direction. He will do NOTHING!!!!

BUt next year his surrogates will scream to blacks that we should vote for him because he is black. When asked if they can identify what he has done for blacks....so they pull out the face card...a card he runs away from.
FM
quote:
Originally posted by baseman:
quote:
Originally posted by Wally:
I just saw a BBC report of a black guy being beaten really badly by the rebels. This is not good. Most of those black people went to Libya because of economics not because they support Gaddafi. One thing I know for sure all of the black African countries will now be behind Gaddafi.

This is not right, hope their backers step up. Hope Obama step in.

Blacks are persecuted because Gaddafi helped them, because he gave them the opportunities others want to deny to them. Blacks are persecuted because they are black. Caribj can twist things as much as he wants to justify killing of blacks. The point is they [Anti-Gaddafians] are not treating Arab loyalists in the same way as they treat blacks.
FM
quote:
Originally posted by caribj:
quote:
Originally posted by baseman:
quote:
Originally posted by Wally:
I just saw a BBC report of a black guy being beaten really badly by the rebels. This is not good. Most of those black people went to Libya because of economics not because they support Gaddafi. One thing I know for sure all of the black African countries will now be behind Gaddafi.

This is not right, hope their backers step up. Hope Obama step in.


When Obama sees black he runs in the opposite direction. He will do NOTHING!!!!

BUt next year his surrogates will scream to blacks that we should vote for him because he is black. When asked if they can identify what he has done for blacks....so they pull out the face card...a card he runs away from.

Caribj,
According to you there is always a valid reason to target blacks, whether is a black president or a black Libyan.
FM
quote:
Originally posted by Lucas:
quote:
Originally posted by baseman:
quote:
Originally posted by Wally:
I just saw a BBC report of a black guy being beaten really badly by the rebels. This is not good. Most of those black people went to Libya because of economics not because they support Gaddafi. One thing I know for sure all of the black African countries will now be behind Gaddafi.

This is not right, hope their backers step up. Hope Obama step in.

Blacks are persecuted because Gaddafi helped them, because he gave them the opportunities others want to deny to them. Blacks are persecuted because they are black. Caribj can twist things as much as he wants to justify killing of blacks. The point is they [Anti-Gaddafians] are not treating Arab loyalists in the same way as they treat blacks.


It is a documented fact that blacks were massacred in Libya in 2000. Gaddafi was President then. Nothing happened in Libya unless he approved it...so why did it happen?

There is embedded racism among Libyans. It was so under gaddafi and it remains so today.
FM
quote:
Originally posted by caribj:
quote:
Originally posted by Lucas:

Caribj,
According to you there is always a valid reason to target blacks, whether is a black president or a black Libyan.


Why w ere blacks massacred in 2000 with thousands having to flee for their safety and Gaddafi doing NOTHING to help?

I see you evade this topic. WHY?


Caribj you should go to libya and fight fuh de brothers.
J

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