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Originally Posted by Cobra:
I believe Trump could make a darn good president despite his clownish moments. But I favor Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio over him. The voters will bring  back the republicans to the white house in 2016.

Marco Rubio can't even get support in his home state of Florida. His support here is in the single digits. 

FM
Originally Posted by Cobra:
I believe Trump could make a darn good president despite his clownish moments. But I favor Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio over him. The voters will bring  back the republicans to the white house in 2016.

Bush, that clown who believes taking out Sadaam was right.  That clown still believes in the bigger clowns, Colin Powell and Condelessa Rice.  His brother fell victim to these clowns, but he had time to think.  What a joker.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Cobra:
I believe Trump could make a darn good president despite his clownish moments. But I favor Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio over him. The voters will bring  back the republicans to the white house in 2016.

Bush, that clown who believes taking out Sadaam was right.  That clown still believes in the bigger clowns, Colin Powell and Condelessa Rice.  His brother fell victim to these clowns, but he had time to think.  What a joker.

Jeb Bush may still get punished for his perceived role in W's Florida win in 2000.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Cobra:
I am talking about Jeb who said he is his own man. Lol

He in a joker.  Kasich was not bad but lil naive in foreign policy.  But then again, after seven years, Obama is still as naive as him.  The bar is low.

Obama just re-established diplomatic relations with Cuba after a half century. That is a courageous move which will yield dividends for the Cuban people. All the decades of isolation and sanctions did not provide the desired results which an open society can provide. Nothing naÃŊve about that.

FM
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Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Cobra:
I am talking about Jeb who said he is his own man. Lol

He in a joker.  Kasich was not bad but lil naive in foreign policy.  But then again, after seven years, Obama is still as naive as him.  The bar is low.

Obama just re-established diplomatic relations with Cuba after a half century. That is a courageous move which will yield dividends for the Cuban people. All the decades of isolation and sanctions did not provide the desired results which an open society can provide. Nothing naÃŊve about that.

Cuba, tough nut!!  Thank you Mr Obama, thank you Pope.  Now lets get to real business!!

 

BTW, he also just installed the PNC, how about that!!  And where are we on the Palestinian issue?  I guess he deferred that to Iran?

FM
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Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by Cobra:
I believe Trump could make a darn good president despite his clownish moments. But I favor Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio over him. The voters will bring  back the republicans to the white house in 2016.

Marco Rubio can't even get support in his home state of Florida. His support here is in the single digits. 

Rubio was against the normalization with Cuba. He lost my vote right there.

 

Trump is a clown but he makes me want to watch him for comedy relief everytime.

 

By the way, he is the type of guy will send all of you back to Guyana. 

 

Somebody needs to tell him that when he builds the wall, the Mexicans will find a way to build a tunnel under the wall!!!

V
Originally Posted by baseman:
 

BTW, he also just installed the PNC, how about that!!  And where are we on the Palestinian issue?  I guess he deferred that to Iran?

'Installing' the PNC was a bad call. The Palestinian situation is bigger than Obama as it has been bigger than any president over the past 60+ years. He can't do everything but he is certainly not naÃŊve.

FM
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by Cobra:
I believe Trump could make a darn good president despite his clownish moments. But I favor Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio over him. The voters will bring  back the republicans to the white house in 2016.

Marco Rubio can't even get support in his home state of Florida. His support here is in the single digits. 

Rubio was against the normalization with Cuba. He lost my vote right there.

 

Trump is a clown but he makes me want to watch him for comedy relief everytime.

 

By the way, he is the type of guy will send all of you back to Guyana. 

 

Somebody needs to tell him that when he builds the wall, the Mexicans will find a way to build a tunnel under the wall!!!

Let them bring 1 million thru tunnels.  You guys deserve Guyana's mediocrity.

FM
Originally Posted by VishMahabir:
Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by Cobra:
I believe Trump could make a darn good president despite his clownish moments. But I favor Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio over him. The voters will bring  back the republicans to the white house in 2016.

Marco Rubio can't even get support in his home state of Florida. His support here is in the single digits. 

Rubio was against the normalization with Cuba. He lost my vote right there.

 

Trump is a clown but he makes me want to watch him for comedy relief everytime.

 

By the way, he is the type of guy will send all of you back to Guyana. 

 

Somebody needs to tell him that when he builds the wall, the Mexicans will find a way to build a tunnel under the wall!!!

Trump isn't right wing. But it doesn't matter because Hillary will be the next President. It was due to her 8 years ago but we wanted to break down a bigger barrier back then.

FM
Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by baseman:
 

BTW, he also just installed the PNC, how about that!!  And where are we on the Palestinian issue?  I guess he deferred that to Iran?

'Installing' the PNC was a bad call. The Palestinian situation is bigger than Obama as it has been bigger than any president over the past 60+ years. He can't do everything but he is certainly not naÃŊve.

If the US president cannot help the Palestinians, then you will Netanyahu.  It just meant he was too small for the job.  In eight years, not one iota of movement, not even an attempt.  Look, he could not, so Iran has to pick up the mantle.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by baseman:
 

BTW, he also just installed the PNC, how about that!!  And where are we on the Palestinian issue?  I guess he deferred that to Iran?

'Installing' the PNC was a bad call. The Palestinian situation is bigger than Obama as it has been bigger than any president over the past 60+ years. He can't do everything but he is certainly not naÃŊve.

If the US president cannot help the Palestinians, then you will Netanyahu.  It just meant he was too small for the job.  In eight years, not one iota of movement, not even an attempt.  Look, he could not, so Iran has to pick up the mantle.

Does that mean that all the previous presidents were also too small for the job?

FM
Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by baseman:
 

BTW, he also just installed the PNC, how about that!!  And where are we on the Palestinian issue?  I guess he deferred that to Iran?

'Installing' the PNC was a bad call. The Palestinian situation is bigger than Obama as it has been bigger than any president over the past 60+ years. He can't do everything but he is certainly not naÃŊve.

If the US president cannot help the Palestinians, then you will Netanyahu.  It just meant he was too small for the job.  In eight years, not one iota of movement, not even an attempt.  Look, he could not, so Iran has to pick up the mantle.

Does that mean that all the previous presidents were also too small for the job?

At least they attempted and Carter gave us Camp David.  What did Barak give us, ISIS?

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by baseman:
 

BTW, he also just installed the PNC, how about that!!  And where are we on the Palestinian issue?  I guess he deferred that to Iran?

'Installing' the PNC was a bad call. The Palestinian situation is bigger than Obama as it has been bigger than any president over the past 60+ years. He can't do everything but he is certainly not naÃŊve.

If the US president cannot help the Palestinians, then you will Netanyahu.  It just meant he was too small for the job.  In eight years, not one iota of movement, not even an attempt.  Look, he could not, so Iran has to pick up the mantle.

Does that mean that all the previous presidents were also too small for the job?

At least they attempted and Carter gave us Camp David.  What did Barak give us, ISIS?

Attempt doesn't count as result. Camp David did nothing for the Palestinians. It mainly gave the Israelis a Middle East ally.

FM
Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by ksazma:
Originally Posted by baseman:
 

BTW, he also just installed the PNC, how about that!!  And where are we on the Palestinian issue?  I guess he deferred that to Iran?

'Installing' the PNC was a bad call. The Palestinian situation is bigger than Obama as it has been bigger than any president over the past 60+ years. He can't do everything but he is certainly not naÃŊve.

If the US president cannot help the Palestinians, then you will Netanyahu.  It just meant he was too small for the job.  In eight years, not one iota of movement, not even an attempt.  Look, he could not, so Iran has to pick up the mantle.

Does that mean that all the previous presidents were also too small for the job?

At least they attempted and Carter gave us Camp David.  What did Barak give us, ISIS?

Attempt doesn't count as result. Camp David did nothing for the Palestinians. It mainly gave the Israelis a Middle East ally.

Ok, so who can help, Iran, Russia, Guyana...who, if not the US?  BTW, the Russians, Chinese, EU are all more pro-Palestinian Statehood.  The only supporter of the oppressor is the USA.  So Obama was useless, am I reading you correct?

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
 

Ok, so who can help, Iran, Russia, Guyana...who, if not the US?  BTW, the Russians, Chinese, EU are all more pro-Palestinian Statehood.  The only supporter of the oppressor is the USA.  So Obama was useless, am I reading you correct?

Only the US can make a difference for the Palestinians but their collective balls are in the vice-grips of the Israelis. There are other countries with the resources and will but the US will never allow them to do so.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Cobra:
I believe Trump could make a darn good president despite his clownish moments. But I favor Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio over him. The voters will bring  back the republicans to the white house in 2016.

Bush, that clown who believes taking out Sadaam was right.  That clown still believes in the bigger clowns, Colin Powell and Condelessa Rice.  His brother fell victim to these clowns, but he had time to think.  What a joker.

You selected out the two black people for blame when of course Powell was nowhere in the mix. He was, as the presidents man, designated to speak to the UN. You are not only ignorant of history and who were GW's advisers but you are blinded from a honest approach to it by your racism.  Check who are the present foreign policy advisers for JB and you will find the architect of the war. Powell's only advice was if you do it you must own it and that it demands massive input and not a trickle as in 'nam. That is what they call the powell doctrine and not the crap you are trying to sell.

FM
Originally Posted by baseman:
Originally Posted by Cobra:
I am talking about Jeb who said he is his own man. Lol

He in a joker.  Kasich was not bad but lil naive in foreign policy.  But then again, after seven years, Obama is still as naive as him.  The bar is low.

Jackass, none of these people are naive. They simply have policy positions you do not agree with. It is astounding how you pompous folks consider yourself geniuses when the only executive post you ever hold is managing your wife's shopping list. Every one of these people are surrounded by some of the nations brightest. Their positions represent the varying world view of Americas and grounded on some philosophical principle so they are not wrong views but a view that is competing for political space. The Iraq war can be rationalized from many viewpoints.

 

It is amazing how a substandard thinker like you is here pretending that Obama, an ivy league scholar and professor of constitution law is dumb and you are smart. Tell us where you went to school  and for what academic discipline that validates you are a thinker. Bean counting does not count as an academic field in the traditional view of the subject. It is addition and subtraction. It remains constant and adds little to the knowledge base in what is called the long debate as to what is and how do we know. 

FM

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