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January 18 2020

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In a historic move, A New and United Guyana (ANUG), the Liberty and Justice Party (LJP) and The New Movement (TNM) have agreed to join their Lists of Candidates so that the votes they secure at the March 2 general and regional elections could be counted collectively and improve their chances of securing parliamentary and regional seats.

The parties will contest the polls separately but in tabulating votes for the allocation of seats in the National Assembly and on the Regional Democratic Councils, their votes will be combined. “Any party getting 2,000 votes does not get a seat so that’s a waste of those votes but a combination list with 6,000 votes has won a seat and more importantly has prevented either APNU+AFC or the PPP/C from winning that seat,” a source close to the process explained to Stabroek News yesterday.

ANUG led by Ralph Ramkarran, the LJP led by Lenox Shuman and TNM led by Asha Kissoon have informed Chief Election Officer Keith Lowenfield that they wish to engage in a “joinder of lists.”

The three parties are expected to announce this decision today at a press conference scheduled for 10am at the Georgetown Cricket Club (GCC), Bourda.

While none of the party leaders would identify the other members of the collective, a source close to the process explained to Stabroek News that the decision to join was a tactical attempt to prevent either of the larger parties from gaining a “remainder seat.”

According to Section 22 of the Representation of the People’s Act, two or more lists of candidates shall be joined for the distribution of seats (but not for the purpose of voting) if the representative and deputy representative of each list to be so joined gives notice accordingly in writing to the Chief Election Officer not later than the 25th day before election day.  It adds that lists so joined are to be referred to collectively as a combination of lists. ANUG has previously announced a collaboration with the Federal United Party (FED-UP) but on Nomination Day, the proposed coalition collapsed mere “hours” after it was finalised.

As a result FED-UP will not be contesting the general election and will only appear on the Regional Ballot in Regions Five and Six.   The Guyana Elections Commission (GECOM) has approved the lists of 11 parties, including ANUG, LJP and TNM, to contest the March 2 polls.

Every candidate for election is required to declare themselves eligible to sit as Members of the National Assembly and Stabroek News had previously reported that GECOM is considering how to deal with Shuman, who signed the declaration after submitting the requisite documents to renounce his Canadian citizenship but whom it appears has not yet received confirmation of same.

Article 155(a) of the Constitution specifically disqualifies from election to the Assembly a person who by virtue of his own act is under any acknowledgement of allegiance, obedience or adherence to a foreign power or state.

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GECOM is considering how to deal with Shuman, who signed the declaration after submitting the requisite documents to renounce his Canadian citizenship but whom it appears has not yet received confirmation of same.

Does this mean he has to prove he has renounced his Canadian citizenship? Baap re Baap, he might catch the next plane out to Canada if they clamp down on his deceit.

A "remainder seat" caused PPP/C to become a minority government in 2011. These 3 mini parties say their joinder of lists is a tactical move to get any remainder seat on March 2.

PPP/C will not like that and must urge voters to ensure that the party wins at least 34 seats.

Gilbakka posted:

JOINDER OF LISTS. A new concept to me. 

First time in the history of Guyana.  This happens when you have a constitutional expert at the helm.  As opposed to a coalition, each party occupy the seats they win at the election.  This is the only strategy against winner take all which leaves out those who are not in the winning party.

How come you used to cuss me out for supporting the 3rd party swing vote concept saying the only solution is a PPP majority.  Now suddenly is the best concept.  This is exactly why I supported the AFC in 2011.

Ayuh change skin like snake.  But then again.....

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Bibi Haniffa posted:
Gilbakka posted:

JOINDER OF LISTS. A new concept to me. 

First time in the history of Guyana.  This happens when you have a constitutional expert at the helm.  As opposed to a coalition, each party occupy the seats they win at the election.  This is the only strategy against winner take all which leaves out those who are not in the winning party.

I am confused now, the other day you said Shuman is dual citizen, how will this strategy work then ... help me. I believe Ralf has dig his final grave in politics. 
Shuman has turn out to be dishonest, why is Ralf tarnishing his political reputation. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dave posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Gilbakka posted:

JOINDER OF LISTS. A new concept to me. 

First time in the history of Guyana.  This happens when you have a constitutional expert at the helm.  As opposed to a coalition, each party occupy the seats they win at the election.  This is the only strategy against winner take all which leaves out those who are not in the winning party.

I am confused now, the other day you said Shuman is dual citizen, how will this strategy work then ... help me. I believe Ralf has dig his final grave in politics. 
Shuman has turn out to be dishonest, why is Ralf tarnishing his political reputation. 

Help me too!  Dual citizenship, disqualified from holding office.  How does he represent his constituency in any government?

Sheer bullcock.

Django posted:

ANUG, LJP, TNM join lists for elections

January 18 2020,  Source

In a historic move, A New and United Guyana (ANUG), the Liberty and Justice Party (LJP) and The New Movement (TNM) have agreed to join their Lists of Candidates so that the votes they secure at the March 2 general and regional elections could be counted collectively and improve their chances of securing parliamentary and regional seats.

According to Section 22 of the Representation of the People’s Act, two or more lists of candidates shall be joined for the distribution of seats (but not for the purpose of voting) if the representative and deputy representative of each list to be so joined gives notice accordingly in writing to the Chief Election Officer not later than the 25th day before election day.  It adds that lists so joined are to be referred to collectively as a combination of lists. ANUG has previously announced a collaboration with the Federal United Party (FED-UP) but on Nomination Day, the proposed coalition collapsed mere “hours” after it was finalised.

Interesting to see how issues developed and when the said joining of parties will be officially published in the Gazette.

Guyana Election Law

Section 22, Subsections 1, 2, & 3, Representation of the People Act, Guyana Election Law, Source -- http://pdba.georgetown.edu/Ele...Guyana/guyrep01.html

1. Subject to subsection (2), two or more lists of candidates shall be joined for the distribution of seats (but not for the purpose of voting) if the representative and deputy representative of each list to be so joined gives notice accordingly in writing to the Chief Election Officer not later than the 25th day before election day; and lists so joined are hereinafter referred to collectively as a combination of lists.

2. No list of candidates shall be included in more than one combination of lists and if any notice given under subsection (l) would, if given effect, result in a contravention of this section, that list shall not be included in any combination of lists.

 

3. The Commission shall cause a notification of combinations of lists to be published not later than the 23rd day before election day in the Gazette and may cause such further publication of the same, for the information of electors, as the Commission considers desirable.

Dave posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Gilbakka posted:

JOINDER OF LISTS. A new concept to me. 

First time in the history of Guyana.  This happens when you have a constitutional expert at the helm.  As opposed to a coalition, each party occupy the seats they win at the election.  This is the only strategy against winner take all which leaves out those who are not in the winning party.

I am confused now, the other day you said Shuman is dual citizen, how will this strategy work then ... help me. I believe Ralf has dig his final grave in politics. 
Shuman has turn out to be dishonest, why is Ralf tarnishing his political reputation. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Shuman cannot be a Parliamentarian or Minister.  He will probably go back to Canada and give his votes to Asha.

Baseman posted:

How come you used to cuss me out for supporting the 3rd party swing vote concept saying the only solution is a PPP majority.  Now suddenly is the best concept.  This is exactly why I supported the AFC in 2011.

Ayuh change skin like snake.  But then again.....

Show me where I said it’s the best concept.  Or you just looking for attention again?  You need to get your emotions under control.  Makes you look weak and stupitt.

Bibi Haniffa posted:
Baseman posted:

How come you used to cuss me out for supporting the 3rd party swing vote concept saying the only solution is a PPP majority.  Now suddenly is the best concept.  This is exactly why I supported the AFC in 2011.

Ayuh change skin like snake.  But then again.....

Show me where I said it’s the best concept.  Or you just looking for attention again?  You need to get your emotions under control.  Makes you look weak and stupitt.

Are you now saying that a PPP majority is not the best solution? 

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Baseman posted:

If he’s not entitled to hold any cabinet position, exactly what is he heading up?  Sounds like a rebel without a cause.  Comical.

Granger said anyone can form a party and contest the election, but only a Guyanese citizen can sit in parliament. So, Shuman is quite okay at this point. No one can do him anything. Besides the man is from the land, no boat fetched his ppl to land of many waters.

Maybe, he is a rebel with a cause, capture the native votes and jockey for a ministerial job. He could still go to parliament to answer questions pertaining to his ministry. He can't vote.

Bibi Haniffa posted:
Dave posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Gilbakka posted:

JOINDER OF LISTS. A new concept to me. 

First time in the history of Guyana.  This happens when you have a constitutional expert at the helm.  As opposed to a coalition, each party occupy the seats they win at the election.  This is the only strategy against winner take all which leaves out those who are not in the winning party.

I am confused now, the other day you said Shuman is dual citizen, how will this strategy work then ... help me. I believe Ralf has dig his final grave in politics. 
Shuman has turn out to be dishonest, why is Ralf tarnishing his political reputation.

Shuman cannot be a Parliamentarian or Minister.  He will probably go back to Canada and give his votes to Asha.

So his constituency are just chattel.  You think they are that stupid?  If that's the case, why not just vote ANUG.  Politics is not dolly house.

Mitwah posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Baseman posted:

How come you used to cuss me out for supporting the 3rd party swing vote concept saying the only solution is a PPP majority.  Now suddenly is the best concept.  This is exactly why I supported the AFC in 2011.

Ayuh change skin like snake.  But then again.....

Show me where I said it’s the best concept.  Or you just looking for attention again?  You need to get your emotions under control.  Makes you look weak and stupitt.

Are you now saying that a PPP majority is not the best solution? 

She thinks everyone suffers from selective amnesia.

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