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Originally posted by The Judge:
I hope Moses leads the AFC out of the wilderness Big Grin


That is where they are going if they failed to get 8 seats..

Who said that Moses will be joining the AFC.
After 3 weeks of negotiating with him that can't come up with a suitable post. Ramjattan does not want to hand over his position.

NB: The AFC is all about Trotman and Ramjattan.
Every other will a fifth wheel to a coach.
FM
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Originally posted by Guyanese Patriot:
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Originally posted by SuperMike:
this is how these jokers will win the elections..i see 5 persons there...what a bunch of asses i tell you...ah wonder how they feel to be talking to themselves at their meetings cheers


Do you see any ballot boxes at these rallies?


naa ah see dat the Guyanese people rejected the 2 rejected political trash yall gat heading yal ka ka hole party....muss see the thousands we get at our meetings
FM
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Originally posted by The Judge:
THIS IS WHAT THE AFC DON'T WANT YOU TO SEE



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Suddenly we hear nothing from the AFCites. I know GR is busy but what of the others.

Embarrassed maybe?
FM
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Originally posted by albert:
Probably the goons of the A.F.C is giving up the fight against the truth....a certain defeat for political gathering is inevitable....
Indeed it is a fight against a truth, an ugly truth of the worse in an administration; a corrupt, autocratic pompous and morally destitute entity.

That its use of patronage and ethnic nepotism as tools of compliance is not surprising. No one is astonished that they will get at least 3% of the african population. These are in fear of their loss of a place in the soup line.

That Indians in general will tumble over themselves for the PPP is also understood. They represent a conditioned group think wrought of two factors. They love to live in the reflected glow of success of kind and fear if not loathe the PNC and its black supporters with a morbid passion. It will take more than reason to overcome such willful ignorance. They will not be moved by facts but by their conditioned compulsions.

From my perspective, it is not the Indian sheep that the AFC counts on from the PPP block or the black sheep that will likewise gravitate zombie-like to the PNC in its new incarnation. The Plan is to wake them up to look after their own concerns later. Alas, the Afc is their therapy of last resort and they do not know it yet.

The AFC wants the young with their mind free of the prodding of bigotry and using their reasoning to grasp they are in the tendrils of a parasitic organism called the PPP. There are over 120, 000 of them from, mostly first time voters and will can be the agents to rid us of that pestilence of corruption, nepotism and unrestrained greed that is the PPP. Have at the large turnout if you will. The world has always been bountiful with sheep like mediocrity from among the masses. Change comes from movement of the courageous few taking the middle ground and the AFC fall back is always to kneecap the PPP. They need to be hobbled to change. Welcome to morning in Guyana.
FM
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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
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People are always in different groups, contrary to what you are saying.


iz who dis ass talking to...no one is listening to him...dem bannas gat guts yoo...and we have a few katahars shouting everyday the AFC will win...win wid what?? the camera man look lik ehe is PPP...he give us a good shot of the thousands present there cheers yippie partybanana
FM
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Originally posted by D2:
. Alas, the Afc is their therapy of last resort and they do not know it yet.

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This was the perfect election for the AFC to do well. The PNC is dying and many/most of their support base has moved on. Even many PPP supporters are now looking at teh PPP with disgust.

30,000 registered voters have yet to pick up their cards. I am willing to bet most of these will be urban voters, or from the black villages. This represents 8% of the rolls. Willing to bet teh PPP ensured their supporters have their cards ready. Its not their fault if the PNC and the AFC are too sleepy to do the same.



So with all of this if the AFc couldnt make their mark its a result of laziness in the first four years and faulty campaign strategy over the last year.

The AFc has to convince people that they have teh capacity to beat these two parties, and if they win, the ability to govern. It doesnt appear as if they have, based on their empty meetings.

All expect a low turnout. Sorry this is not like 2001 when 85% of the registered voters turned out like zombies to vote race. Now many will not vote feeling that none of the parties will mean any difference in their lives. And the opposition lacks teh abil;ity to match the PPP in its ability to campaign, hence their defeat being certain.

No party is entitled to a vote just because they are there. they have to go and convince voters that they will make a difference in their lives. Certainly one which only won 8% last time is under even more pressure to prove itself.
FM
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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
Regardless of the election results, the AFC needs to re-organise and be focused on the future, if it indeed wants to be a true tangible force in the future.



I agree. I hope they learn humility and attract an energetic group as its clear Trotman and Ramjattan lack this.

They seem to have a sense of entitlement. Yes the PNC failed. Yes the PPP failed. That doesnt mean that Guyanese MUST vote for them. They must EARN it.
FM
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Originally posted by caribj:

Yes the PPP failed. That doesnt mean that Guyanese MUST vote for them.

They must EARN it.


I have stated here numerous times, ALL political parties have misgivings.

However, the PPP/C is still the best of the rest.

The PPP/C will win the 2011 elections.

The other parties need to completely re-organise if they want to be strong contenders in future elections.
FM
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Originally posted by caribj:
quote:
Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
Regardless of the election results, the AFC needs to re-organise and be focused on the future, if it indeed wants to be a true tangible force in the future.

I agree. I hope they learn humility and attract an energetic group as its clear Trotman and Ramjattan lack this.

They seem to have a sense of entitlement. Yes the PNC failed. Yes the PPP failed. That doesnt mean that Guyanese MUST vote for them. They must EARN it.

And the AFC is earning, fighting for Sugar Workers rights, defending political prisoners/victims, fighting for the disposessed, etc.
FM
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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
However, the PPP/C is still the best of the rest.

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The PPP will win because the others are lousy campaigners. The PPP is incompetent, racist, corrupt and now increasingly dictatorial with your president just about making death threats against the private media.

I fear for Guyana. Just as how the PNC started out well but emnded badly I foresee the same for the PPP.

If the turnout is low this will be as much an indictment of the PPP as it is of the AFC and the PNC.
FM
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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
quote:
Originally posted by caribj:

Yes the PPP failed. That doesnt mean that Guyanese MUST vote for them.

They must EARN it.


I have stated here numerous times, ALL political parties have misgivings.

However, the PPP/C is still the best of the rest.

The PPP/C will win the 2011 elections.

The other parties need to completely re-organise if they want to be strong contenders in future elections.



DG, are you one of those who wore t shirts back in the day with the saying, "Free Manson"?
cain
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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
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Originally posted by cain:

DG, are you one of those who wore t shirts back in the day with the saying, "Free Manson"?


You still have yours, Cain? Big Grin

Though they are nice, I do not wear t-shirts. Smile




No DG, I do not associate with criminals/corrupt people. But I do wear t shirts always.
cain
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Originally posted by cain:
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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
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Originally posted by caribj:

Yes the PPP failed. That doesnt mean that Guyanese MUST vote for them.

They must EARN it.


I have stated here numerous times, ALL political parties have misgivings.

However, the PPP/C is still the best of the rest.

The PPP/C will win the 2011 elections.

The other parties need to completely re-organise if they want to be strong contenders in future elections.



DG, are you one of those who wore t shirts back in the day with the saying, "Free Manson"?
Most recently he wore "OJ is innocent" and "Free Mike Tyson"
FM
Five parties won parliamentary seats in the last elections. The PPP grabbed more than half. From what I gathered from friends and family in Guyana is that the people of Guyana have not been showing much interest in following another party. We don't have severe crisis situation the Buxton Crisis or the Harsh economic crisis in the PNC years to really push people to seek answers in other parties or movement.
Billy Ram Balgobin
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Originally posted by D2:
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Originally posted by cain:
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Originally posted by Demerara_Guy:
quote:
Originally posted by caribj:

Yes the PPP failed. That doesnt mean that Guyanese MUST vote for them.

They must EARN it.


I have stated here numerous times, ALL political parties have misgivings.

However, the PPP/C is still the best of the rest.

The PPP/C will win the 2011 elections.

The other parties need to completely re-organise if they want to be strong contenders in future elections.



DG, are you one of those who wore t shirts back in the day with the saying, "Free Manson"?
Most recently he wore "OJ is innocent" and "Free Mike Tyson"



REALLY? hehehe Dat true DG?
cain
Not everyone is interested. The AFC is a new kid on the block with a major influence by PNC background. Trotman is a great guy. I met him a couple of time and I am impressed with him, but his PNC past is his downfall. He should have left the PNC a very long time ago. He is definitely Presidential material, but not now. He needs to develop more, working with the ordinary people, not only the Georgetown classy boys.
Ramjattan will not make it. Too complacent; not much to say; more internally driven and typically lawyer stoicism.
ACF can have a chance in the future, though effective growth in the party.
But not everyone is interested in AFC.
C

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