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Most of the objections to the federalist proposals have come from African-Guyanese. This is a remarkable position, since minorities across the globe, from Assam to Zimbabwe, have been clamouring for federalist principles to be instituted to protect their interests against actual or potential majorities. The reason is that, in Guyana, Africans literally do not see themselves as a “minority”. Their history of having slaved to build the foundations of the country, their dominant Creole values, their occupancy of the key state institutions etc. have served to engender an entrenched belief of greater legitimacy to the national patrimony. The corollary, of course, is that until this belief is addressed, Africans will not concede legitimacy to a Government perceived to be representative only of Indians. Federalism acknowledges the African right to a just share of their birthright.

Federalism and Partition
When the federalist proposals were first broached, it was with a large measure of surprise that the present writer noted many Guyanese saw it as a Trojan horse for “partition”. There may have been two reasons for this mistaken assumption. Firstly, back in the sixties, with the spectre of open ethnic conflict, Eusi Kwayana (then Sydney King) had proposed that the country be partitioned into three zones – one for Indians, one for Africans, and the third for all those who wanted to live together.
That this proposal may have been in the minds of Guyanese forty years after its presentation leads to the second, related, possible rationale. It is most likely that the ethnic conflict has proven so intractable for almost half a century that many Guyanese do not see any resolution, and either desire partition or fear the sentiment is so strong that, given an inch with federalism, secessionist elements would quickly demand the “mile” of partition, so as to get on with their lives.

Small populations not viable
It has been pointed out that the populations of the proposed states may be too small to be viable. This criticism ignores the fact that, right in Caricom, there are a dozen full-fledged independent states that are doing much better than Guyana. It also looks at the population of Guyana as if it would be static; but if Guyana regains stability, we can be sure that the population would rise. At the time of the union, the original thirteen States of the US each had much smaller populations than today.
In 1999, Canada carved out a new territory – Nunavut – for its Innuits in the North, who number only 25,000. Today, size is not as important as before, in an integrated, globalised world where trade-bloc access guarantees markets. Improvements in technology create efficiencies of production at increasingly smaller scales of production.

The State/Regional Governments would
require too large a bureaucracy
The argument on the need for extra layers of bureaucrats, which would prove to be a financial burden, goes to the need for bureaucratic efficiency and cost – potent arguments. However, the present Regional System duplicates many activities performed at the Federal level, and vice-versa. It presently has more workers than the proposed Federal System would need, because of the streamlining effect of the clearer, constitutionally-enforced demarcation of responsibilities (exclusive competencies) that would be precipitated by the Federal reforms. The calls for simply more “devolution” would fail, because of this barrier against interference by the Central Govt.

Guyana would be weakened to External threats
It has been suggested that a Federal Guyana would be weakened, and become more vulnerable to external threats. This allegation is related to the accusation that federalism would lead to a break-up of the Guyanese State. As has been emphasised, Guyana would remain a sovereign state, and the Federal Government, having less to do, may perform better at the duties left at that level, such as Defence and External Affairs.
The Army would be a federal institution that would be deployed primarily at our borders, from where our major external threats would come.

Citizens would have to move, or be
restricted in their movements
Since Guyana would remain as a single country, all citizens would be free to move throughout the country in an unhampered manner. While States/Regions may set residency requirements for certain benefits, they would not be able to prohibit any Guyanese citizen from moving into a State or settling there.

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This federalism will create Nigeria in Guyana. The only workable solution is the creation of an independent sovereign state for East Indians of Guyana, Douglas who love their Guyanese East Indian heritage and Allies of the East Indian people of Guyana.

@VishMahabir posted:

It sounds like a system they have in Canada, US and India.

But Guyana is too small of a country to have so many different layers of government.

Guyana already has a system in place that can be transformed into a Canadian style system.

The Central Government, The regional Governments, and the Municipalities.

The regional governments can be run like a province with a Premier as the head and have all the responsibilities of the Canadian Provinces.

The Municipalities could be run like Toronto.

It is not too difficult to transform the Country into a Federal system.

@Ramakant-P posted:

Guyana already has a system in place that can be transformed into a Canadian style system.

The Central Government, The regional Governments, and the Municipalities.

The regional governments can be run like a province with a Premier as the head and have all the responsibilities of the Canadian Provinces.

The Municipalities could be run like Toronto.

It is not too difficult to transform the Country into a Federal system.

They can even learn to be corrupt hypocrites like Canadian politicians! Really servants of the banks! Money talks, bullshit walks and Canadian politicians are tireless walkers!

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@shallyv posted:

They can even learn to be corrupt hypocrites like Canadian politicians! Really servants of the banks! Money talks, bullshit walks and Canadian politicians are tireless walkers!

You are missing the point.

@Ramakant-P posted:

Guyana already has a system in place that can be transformed into a Canadian style system.

The Central Government, The regional Governments, and the Municipalities.

The regional governments can be run like a province with a Premier as the head and have all the responsibilities of the Canadian Provinces.

The Municipalities could be run like Toronto.

It is not too difficult to transform the Country into a Federal system.

You may need Biden / Trudeau to intervene. Then we can have like the Feds versus the Repubs but in Guyana it would be the Afros versus the Indos.

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@Mitwah posted:

You may need Biden / Trudeau to intervene. Then we can have like the Feds versus the Repubs but in Guyana it would be the Afros versus the Indos.

Guess Rama needs reminding! We ain't Canada!

@Mitwah posted:

How would Federalism work with Emperor Jagdeo around?

It will work just like the Canadian system.  Just compare Trudeau's Canada with Ford's Ontario. Trudeau cannot interfere with the Governing of Ontario. What we are discussing is the possibility of a dream. We all know that it will not happen.

@Ramakant-P posted:

It will work just like the Canadian system.  Just compare Trudeau's Canada with Ford's Ontario. Trudeau cannot interfere with the Governing of Ontario. What we are discussing is the possibility of a dream. We all know that it will not happen.

Why did you stop being pragmatic and start being negative?

@Ramakant-P posted:

My response was to your question about Jagdeo being arrogant.

Don't you agree that if someone has the desire and determination to do something, he or she can find a method for accomplishing it?

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