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It seems that the PPPites and the Coalition supporters seem to have discovered a new found love of the word "racist."

 

This election is about two principal racial groups sticking together and somehow the "other" group is racist for sticking to their racial corners.

 

Let's be lil moh clear: Black people supporting the PNC is not racist and Indian people supporting the PPP is not racist.

 

It is more accurately termed "racial" which is a very very different matter from racism.

 

I find it almost comical to see two racial blocs trying to seize some "moral high ground" on the race issue when this whole exercise is about race. Especially the Coalition supporters trying to paint 90% of the Indian population as "racist" for not voting for the Black dominated party.

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Originally Posted by Shaitaan:

It seems that the PPPites and the Coalition supporters seem to have discovered a new found love of the word "racist."

 

This election is about two principal racial groups sticking together and somehow the "other" group is racist for sticking to their racial corners.

 

Let's be lil moh clear: Black people supporting the PNC is not racist and Indian people supporting the PPP is not racist.

 

It is more accurately termed "racial" which is a very very different matter from racism.

 

I find it almost comical to see two racial blocs trying to seize some "moral high ground" on the race issue when this whole exercise is about race. Especially the Coalition supporters trying to paint 90% of the Indian population as "racist" for not voting for the Black dominated party.

i agree . . . we need to confine the term to poorly socialized louts like yugee, skeldon_man, baseman, rev, alena06, etc., and sick, ideological operators like you (shaitaan), Vassan, Ravi Dev and dem

FM
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Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:

It seems that the PPPites and the Coalition supporters seem to have discovered a new found love of the word "racist."

 

This election is about two principal racial groups sticking together and somehow the "other" group is racist for sticking to their racial corners.

 

Let's be lil moh clear: Black people supporting the PNC is not racist and Indian people supporting the PPP is not racist.

 

It is more accurately termed "racial" which is a very very different matter from racism.

 

I find it almost comical to see two racial blocs trying to seize some "moral high ground" on the race issue when this whole exercise is about race. Especially the Coalition supporters trying to paint 90% of the Indian population as "racist" for not voting for the Black dominated party.

i agree . . . we need to confine the term to poorly socialized louts like yugee, skeldon_man, baseman, rev, alena06, etc., and sick, ideological operators like you (shaitaan), Vassan, Ravi Dev and dem

 

Do tell me what sick ideology I hold?

 

The sick radical ideological proposition that Indian peasants shouldn't be subjected to violence and the deprivation of their property?

 

The sick ideological proposition that a multiethnic state needs multiethnic institutions?

FM
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:

It seems that the PPPites and the Coalition supporters seem to have discovered a new found love of the word "racist."

 

This election is about two principal racial groups sticking together and somehow the "other" group is racist for sticking to their racial corners.

 

Let's be lil moh clear: Black people supporting the PNC is not racist and Indian people supporting the PPP is not racist.

 

It is more accurately termed "racial" which is a very very different matter from racism.

 

I find it almost comical to see two racial blocs trying to seize some "moral high ground" on the race issue when this whole exercise is about race. Especially the Coalition supporters trying to paint 90% of the Indian population as "racist" for not voting for the Black dominated party.

i agree . . . we need to confine the term to poorly socialized louts like yugee, skeldon_man, baseman, rev, alena06, etc., and sick, ideological operators like you (shaitaan), Vassan, Ravi Dev and dem

 

Do tell me what sick ideology I hold?

 

(1) The sick radical ideological proposition that Indian peasants shouldn't be subjected to violence and the deprivation of their property?

 

(2) The sick ideological proposition that a multiethnic state needs multiethnic institutions?

as to (1) . . . nope

 

as to (2) . . . nope

 

dig deeper

FM
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by redux:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:

It seems that the PPPites and the Coalition supporters seem to have discovered a new found love of the word "racist."

 

This election is about two principal racial groups sticking together and somehow the "other" group is racist for sticking to their racial corners.

 

Let's be lil moh clear: Black people supporting the PNC is not racist and Indian people supporting the PPP is not racist.

 

It is more accurately termed "racial" which is a very very different matter from racism.

 

I find it almost comical to see two racial blocs trying to seize some "moral high ground" on the race issue when this whole exercise is about race. Especially the Coalition supporters trying to paint 90% of the Indian population as "racist" for not voting for the Black dominated party.

i agree . . . we need to confine the term to poorly socialized louts like yugee, skeldon_man, baseman, rev, alena06, etc., and sick, ideological operators like you (shaitaan), Vassan, Ravi Dev and dem

 

Do tell me what sick ideology I hold?

 

(1) The sick radical ideological proposition that Indian peasants shouldn't be subjected to violence and the deprivation of their property?

 

(2) The sick ideological proposition that a multiethnic state needs multiethnic institutions?

as to (1) . . . nope

 

as to (2) . . . nope

 

dig deeper

 

That's as far as I'm concerned about Guyana and its issues. I'm sure the natives can figure out the rest on their own. All pretty standard stuff.

 

I'm not Ravi looking to claim Guyana as New India or West Hindustan

FM
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:

It seems that the PPPites and the Coalition supporters seem to have discovered a new found love of the word "racist."

 

This election is about two principal racial groups sticking together and somehow the "other" group is racist for sticking to their racial corners.

 

Let's be lil moh clear: Black people supporting the PNC is not racist and Indian people supporting the PPP is not racist.

 

It is more accurately termed "racial" which is a very very different matter from racism.

 

I find it almost comical to see two racial blocs trying to seize some "moral high ground" on the race issue when this whole exercise is about race. Especially the Coalition supporters trying to paint 90% of the Indian population as "racist" for not voting for the Black dominated party.

1.  The black party has given 40% of the cabinet positions to Indo party II.

 

2.  The Indian party  conceded NOTHING to blacks.

 

3. The black party is NOT waging an anti Indian campaign.  The Indian party's main thrust is about bad black man.

 

 

Now it is clear to me that you are an Indo KKK< so do yourself a favor.  Go vote for the Indo KKK party, but understand that your political prospects in Queens will be OVER!

FM
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
 

Do tell me what sick ideology I hold?

 

The fact that the PPP was involved in the extrajudicial murder of over 400 blacks using their fellow thugs, Roger Khan and others and yet you say NOTHING about that.

 

Yes you will find all sorts of excuses for that.

 

You do NOT know whether the stones thrown at the PPP supporters were authorized by the PNC!

 

In fact given that threats had been made against Crum Ewing by senior PPP officials, there is more proof of PPP involvement in his murder.  But he is black so SCUM in your eyes!

FM
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:

It seems that the PPPites and the Coalition supporters seem to have discovered a new found love of the word "racist."

 

This election is about two principal racial groups sticking together and somehow the "other" group is racist for sticking to their racial corners.

 

Let's be lil moh clear: Black people supporting the PNC is not racist and Indian people supporting the PPP is not racist.

 

It is more accurately termed "racial" which is a very very different matter from racism.

 

I find it almost comical to see two racial blocs trying to seize some "moral high ground" on the race issue when this whole exercise is about race. Especially the Coalition supporters trying to paint 90% of the Indian population as "racist" for not voting for the Black dominated party.

They are right....is abie time now...remember when you used to also give them shit for this?

cain
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
 

The sick radical ideological proposition that Indian peasants shouldn't be subjected to violence and the deprivation of their property?

 

The sick ideological proposition that a multiethnic state needs multiethnic institutions?

What makes you a racist is that black victims of political violence are of no interest to you.

 

What makes you a racist is the fact that you equate black clerks with Indian HEADS of state controlled entities.

 

Now if Indians do not want to be police men what are you going to do?  ARREST them and force them to join?  Indians DO NOT WANT TO WORK in underpad jobs under harsh conditions because they have other options!

FM
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:

It seems that the PPPites and the Coalition supporters seem to have discovered a new found love of the word "racist."

 

This election is about two principal racial groups sticking together and somehow the "other" group is racist for sticking to their racial corners.

 

Let's be lil moh clear: Black people supporting the PNC is not racist and Indian people supporting the PPP is not racist.

 

It is more accurately termed "racial" which is a very very different matter from racism.

 

I find it almost comical to see two racial blocs trying to seize some "moral high ground" on the race issue when this whole exercise is about race. Especially the Coalition supporters trying to paint 90% of the Indian population as "racist" for not voting for the Black dominated party.

Even animals stay within their own kind in the jungle. This could be nature as well.

FM
Originally Posted by Mars:
Originally Posted by Cobra:
Originally Posted by cain:

Don't use nature as a crutch for racism.

So you telling monkeys they must mingle with tigers? You rass mad?

Those are not different races of the same animals moron. They are totally different species.

That's how he looks at the whole of society.

cain
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
 

Do tell me what sick ideology I hold?

 

The fact that the PPP was involved in the extrajudicial murder of over 400 blacks using their fellow thugs, Roger Khan and others and yet you say NOTHING about that.

 

Yes you will find all sorts of excuses for that.

 

You do NOT know whether the stones thrown at the PPP supporters were authorized by the PNC!

 

In fact given that threats had been made against Crum Ewing by senior PPP officials, there is more proof of PPP involvement in his murder.  But he is black so SCUM in your eyes!

 

400 murdered Blacks at the hands of Indians eh? WTF are you talking about? You mean the disjointed list of people the Black-dominated Police force has extrajudicially murdered? I have a hard time finding race in that. I doubt Black police officers are shooting Black people for the sheer pleasure of shooting Black people. The Police Force is a poorly trained undemocratic trigger happy bunch of cretins that believe a dead suspect is just as good and maybe even better than the paperwork it takes to institute charges and put a case before a jury. There is a complex series of factors which lead our Police Force to murder suspects. They're also killing Indian suspects as well. That more Blacks are being extrajudicially murdered by the numbers is probably correct. That this means racist coolie government killing innocent Blacks is a stretch.

 

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that no one in the PNC hierarchy is so stupid as to order the stoning/assault of Indian women and children. I will however believe that some ordinary PNC mudheads saw some PPP flags and took the initiative to express his hatred of the PNC by throwing stuff at some Indian people. That is perfectly within our historical experience in Guyana especially at election time. Let's not act like there's no gambling going on in this casino.

 

I've said that it's perfectly possible that Crum Ewing met his death at the hands of some PPP hired local hooligans who took the "initiative" to act on their own and exceed the goon agency conferred upon them to stay within the confines of harassment and intimidation. That our AG hired these goons is also perfectly believably. He's a madman. I was unaware that I thought he was somehow "scum." I was further unaware that I hold Black people (any Black people) to be "scum." That you think I do is only evidence of a dark spectre which haunts your fevered imagination.

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by Mars:
Originally Posted by Cobra:
Originally Posted by cain:

Don't use nature as a crutch for racism.

So you telling monkeys they must mingle with tigers? You rass mad?

Those are not different races of the same animals moron. They are totally different species.

Where did I say animals are grouped in races? I was making a reference that animals group with their own kind as people of the same race stays together and should not be categorized as racism.

FM

[Shaitaan getting off on his "kill nuff coolies" demon blackman shtick]:

https://guyana.crowdstack.io/topic/wh...pposition-supporters


"And the fact is that today we have to deal with an assault on Indian women and children. I wouldn't really care at all but for the fact that
this is the modus operandi of the PNC.

 

Let's not bury our heads in the latrine and pretend me doan smell PNC shyte. Cause we all know that the PNC usually assaults Indos (especially women and children) around election time. This year dem juss start lil early before we counted the votes.

 

I would rather spend my time ragging on the PPP but I have to spend my time agreeing with Freedom House propaganda today because it's factual and odious.

 

When Indos PPP supporters are assaulting ordinary Black women and children on their way to PNC rallies, you'll find the same revulsion from me."

          ________________________

[Shaitaan (on this thread) after taking his thorazine]:

". . .I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that no one in the PNC hierarchy is so stupid as to order the stoning/assault of Indian women and children. I will however believe that some ordinary PNC mudheads saw some PPP flags and took the initiative to express his hatred of the PNC by throwing stuff at some Indian people. That is perfectly within our historical experience in Guyana especially at election time. Let's not act like there's no gambling going on in this casino.

 

I've said that it's perfectly possible that Crum Ewing met his death at the hands of some PPP hired local hooligans who took the "initiative" to act on their own and exceed the goon agency conferred upon them to stay within the confines of harassment and intimidation. That our AG hired these goons is also perfectly believably. He's a madman. I was unaware that I thought he was somehow "scum." I was further unaware that I hold Black people (any Black people) to be "scum.". . ."

mmmmmmmmm . . .

FM
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Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
 

400 murdered Blacks at the hands of Indians eh? WTF are you talking about? You mean the disjointed list of people the Black-dominated Police force has extrajudicially murdered? I have a hard time finding race in that. I doubt Black police officers are shooting Black people for the sheer pleasure of shooting Black people. The Police Force is a poorly trained undemocratic trigger happy bunch of cretins that believe a dead suspect is just as good and maybe even better than the paperwork it takes to institute charges and put a case before a jury. There is a complex series of factors which lead our Police Force to murder suspects. They're also killing Indian suspects as well. That more Blacks are being extrajudicially murdered by the numbers is probably correct. That this means racist coolie government killing innocent Blacks is a stretch.

 

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that no one in the PNC hierarchy is so stupid as to order the stoning/assault of Indian women and children. I will however believe that some ordinary PNC mudheads saw some PPP flags and took the initiative to express his hatred of the PNC by throwing stuff at some Indian people. That is perfectly within our historical experience in Guyana especially at election time. Let's not act like there's no gambling going on in this casino.

 

I've said that it's perfectly possible that Crum Ewing met his death at the hands of some PPP hired local hooligans who took the "initiative" to act on their own and exceed the goon agency conferred upon them to stay within the confines of harassment and intimidation. That our AG hired these goons is also perfectly believably. He's a madman. I was unaware that I thought he was somehow "scum." I was further unaware that I hold Black people (any Black people) to be "scum." That you think I do is only evidence of a dark spectre which haunts your fevered imagination.

 

 

When last I checked both Gajraj and Khan were Indians and you admitted that they were given full carte blanche to commit their atrocities.  Even as the PPP spurned offers by the UK, Canada and others, to professionalize the police force and improve the efficiency of the courts.

 

I am "appalled" that you don't equate the murder of Crum Ewing with the throwing of stones on PPP supporters. In BOTH instances they were ordinary people exercising their rights and in BOTH instances these rights were trampled on.

 

But here is the difference.

 

1.  2 or 3 hooligans who happen to support the PNC MIGHT have been responsible. At no point in this campaign has ANY senior PNC official condoned violence against Indians.  In fact the whole thrust of their campaign and the message which most of their supporters are getting is "Love and Unity" that even being their theme song. 

 

As you know in the Caribbean, unlike the USA, much of the political messaging is done via music and dancing.

 

2. Anil Nandlall  a MAJOR PPP official issued threats of EXTRAJUDICIAL violence against the Kaiteur News and against Crum Ewing.  HE created a environment where some one can argue that supporters were encouraged to commit violence.

 

So either put up evidence that Granger and others within the PNC in 2015 created an environment of violence.

 

It is a FACT that since Granger assumed leadership of the PNC he has avoided large numbers of day time street protests through commercial corridors because he feared what some of his more violent supporters, or PPP paid instigators would have done.

 

A PPP (Lumumba) instigator tried to encourage violence at the Marriott protest.  So do not pretend as if the PPP doesn't have its hands drenched in BLOOD!

 

And yes the police in Guyana follow orders. 

 

They did so under the British where BLACK and Indian strikers were gunned down on the East Bank when cross ethnic alliances between black and Indian dominated trade unions begun.

 

They did so under Burnham when Lindeners and Buxtonians were fired upon.

 

And they did so in the SAME locations under the orders of the PPP!

 

Have you seen any blood drenched effigies of Jagdeo, Ramotar and Dizzy Lissy any where?  NO!  Has Granger said anything which can be construed as condoning violence against PPP supporters?  NO!

 

Who will benefit if there is pre election violence?

 

PPP or APNU AFC?  We both agree that with some split in the Indian vote the PPP wins.

FM
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