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There is already a wall across most of the border.  If people really want to enter they will do exactly that.  Maybe if the USA looked at its immigration policies it wouldn't have this problem.  Many undocumented migrants are married to US citizens. Prior to 1996 such people would have been sponsored, and would have been given permission to work as the application was processed. 

It is known that this is how many Guyanese who came to NYC in the 80s on "indefinite vacations" eventually legalized themselves.   Yes there were Guyanese "caravans" from Canada with people in the trunk until they got passed the US border.

FM

This is a caravan of organized invaders!  The Govt's are encouraging it because some aid was reduced.  Shows the corruption in those countries.  How come they are allowed to organize, congregate, and create this caravan in nations where workers cannot organize a protest for better working conditions?

The USA may need to go to war to stop this invasion!

Baseman
Baseman posted:

This is a caravan of organized invaders!  The Govt's are encouraging it because some aid was reduced.  Shows the corruption in those countries.  How come they are allowed to organize, congregate, and create this caravan in nations where workers cannot organize a protest for better working conditions?

The USA may need to go to war to stop this invasion!

go ahead and go to war...

there is mass movement of people all over the world...just chickens coming home to roost

FM

In 1980, under pressure to begin construction on what would become his signature project, Donald J. Trump employed a crew of 200 undocumented Polish workers who worked in 12-hour shifts, without gloves, hard hats or masks, to demolish the Bonwit Teller building on Fifth Avenue, where the 58-story, golden-hued Trump Tower now stands.

The workers were paid as little as $4 an hour for their dangerous labor, less than half the union wage, if they got paid at all.

Their treatment led to years of litigation over Mr. Trump’s labor practices, and in 1998, despite frequent claims that he never settles lawsuits, Mr. Trump quietly reached an agreement to end a class-action suit over the Bonwit Teller demolition in which he was a defendant.

For almost 20 years, the terms of that settlement have remained a secret. But last week, the settlement documents were unsealed by Loretta A. Preska, a United States District Court judge for the Southern District, in response to a 2016 motion filed by Time Inc. and the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press. Judge Preska found that the public’s right to know of court proceedings in a class-action case was strengthened by the involvement of the “now-president of the United States.”

Donald Trump posed with a model of Trump Tower in 1980. A group of undocumented Polish laborers were hired to help bring down the building that had previously stood on the site. Don Hogan Charles/The New York Times

Source with rest of the article. ... https://www.nytimes.com/2017/1...nion-settlement.html

FM
Baseman posted:

This is a caravan of organized invaders!  The Govt's are encouraging it because some aid was reduced.  Shows the corruption in those countries.  How come they are allowed to organize, congregate, and create this caravan in nations where workers cannot organize a protest for better working conditions?

The USA may need to go to war to stop this invasion!

Base, you are wrong on this one Bai. Show some compassion like a good Christian that you are.

FM
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Baseman posted:

This is a caravan of organized invaders!  The Govt's are encouraging it because some aid was reduced.  Shows the corruption in those countries.  How come they are allowed to organize, congregate, and create this caravan in nations where workers cannot organize a protest for better working conditions?

The USA may need to go to war to stop this invasion!

Who is going to fill all the millions of vacancies that Trump is boasting about and that America don't have enough workers. USA needs cheap laborers these migrants will be a drop in the bucket.

The Linen White folkes from Europe don't want to come to America, they don't even holiday in America they prefer to vacation in the Islands, such as Jamaica, Cuba, Barbados etc.,

 USA needs unskilled workers, but the unskilled Americans don't want to do menial jobs.

K
kp posted:
Baseman posted:

This is a caravan of organized invaders!  The Govt's are encouraging it because some aid was reduced.  Shows the corruption in those countries.  How come they are allowed to organize, congregate, and create this caravan in nations where workers cannot organize a protest for better working conditions?

The USA may need to go to war to stop this invasion!

Who is going to fill all the millions of vacancies that Trump is boasting about and that America don't have enough workers. USA needs cheap laborers these migrants will be a drop in the bucket.

The Linen White folkes from Europe don't want to come to America, they don't even holiday in America they prefer to vacation in the Islands, such as Jamaica, Cuba, Barbados etc.,

 USA needs unskilled workers, but the unskilled Americans don't want to do menial jobs.

Only lazy people complain they cannot find jobs in America. They complain that immigrants take their jobs. They do not want to work and these are the very people you see go out there and support Trump's racist agenda. Most of them are rednecks from the south.

FM
kp posted:
Baseman posted:

This is a caravan of organized invaders!  The Govt's are encouraging it because some aid was reduced.  Shows the corruption in those countries.  How come they are allowed to organize, congregate, and create this caravan in nations where workers cannot organize a protest for better working conditions?

The USA may need to go to war to stop this invasion!

Who is going to fill all the millions of vacancies that Trump is boasting about and that America don't have enough workers. USA needs cheap laborers these migrants will be a drop in the bucket.

The Linen White folkes from Europe don't want to come to America, they don't even holiday in America they prefer to vacation in the Islands, such as Jamaica, Cuba, Barbados etc.,

 USA needs unskilled workers, but the unskilled Americans don't want to do menial jobs.

The millions of Afros and others who are still scrounging, some having non-violent criminal records and are shut out of the market.

The unfilled jobs are mostly blue-collar, not menial, in the construction industry.  These people could be trained to do these jobs....and they speak English!

I don't know why you think they will fill these jobs when they don't speak a word of English!

Baseman

I have a brother that lives in Up State NY, I remember several years back he needed workers to do his landscaping, he would drive to the Bronx and bring a van load  of Latino immigrants, house ,feed them for a week and pay them min. wage, but they would work and hardly take a break. Some could speak enough English to get by,But where he lived he could not find workers to do the job, sure maybe all the Latino workers he got were illegals, but who cares, the job was completed in two weeks.

K
kp posted:

I have a brother that lives in Up State NY, I remember several years back he needed workers to do his landscaping, he would drive to the Bronx and bring a van load  of Latino immigrants, house ,feed them for a week and pay them min. wage, but they would work and hardly take a break. Some could speak enough English to get by,But where he lived he could not find workers to do the job, sure maybe all the Latino workers he got were illegals, but who cares, the job was completed in two weeks.

I had Latinos replaced my roof and refinish my living room floor. No problem with their work.

FM

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