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October 27,2016

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I observed in a column, recently, that I could understand the lack of shine on the 17-month leadership style of David Granger. The man is brand new to politics. Carl Greenidge was a UG lecturer when he became Finance Minister and after 1992 went out of Guyana for almost 20 years.David Patterson, Cathy Hughes, Joe Harmon, Dominic Gaskin, Volda Lawrence and the rest of the leadership of the Government have absolutely no experience in exercising state power even for short as a week.
Mistakes then are bound to be made that are perfectly understandable. The one personality that stands out is Moses Nagamootoo. This is a man of immense experience in politics. He was the de facto heir-apparent to Cheddi Jagan. He was a Minister in the Government twenty years ago. Surely, as Prime Minister he has the accumulated finesse to determine when the new government is doing something foolishly or walking on a pathway full of dirty mud.This columnist simply cannot understand why Moses Nagamootoo doesn’t use his fifty-year-old praxis to guide the government of which he is second in charge. Or could it be he is not interested or has been sidelined?
The mistakes the PPP made were obvious to any rational human being but they were not to the PPP. The PPP lost the majority in 2011 and lost office in 2015 because brutal mistakes that the party could not see were reenacted with increasing frequency.
What has the new government learnt from the impassible directions the PPP went into? You could be the most fanatical supporter of the Coalition, the mistakes they are making are too large to be ignored. The new regime of 2015 is repeating the errors of the PPP cabals and seems incapable of seeing it. We can trace these mistakes but space would not allow. What we can briefly allude to are a few that egregiously stand out.
There are constant complaints that Coalition leaders are into power and have forgotten where they came from. Little benefits to the working class they have taken away. Our pensioners who are in the have-not category have had their water and electricity subsidy removed. Financial benefits for poor people who do dialysis have been withdrawn. I hear that because of this there have been about fifty deaths.
I am checking into this story and have already interviewed relevant authorities who have confirmed the withdrawal. The cost of a large number of governmental services has been increased in most cases by over a thousand percent. Top APNU-AFC politicians are impatiently arrogant with the press and critics. The PPP installed non-performers as Ministers and didn’t care what criticism they received from the public. The APNU-AFC, especially the AFC, has done the exact thing. These are the very patterns of deportment that made citizen detest the PPP administration.
Now we have the transfer of Cabinet meetings to the army headquarters at Camp Ayanganna. Once this happened, the analyst has to make the comparison with the PPP regime. From 2002 to 2008, the PPP faced a security dilemma because of the connection between politics and narco-trafficking and the Buxton conspiracy.
During all this time, the PPP retained Cabinet meetings at the Office of the President. Where then was the security paranoia in those days? Then the PPP moved Cabinet meetings around the country. There was no paranoia about security; there were no security breaches at those sessions in Essequibo and Berbice. Why then does the Coalition need to shift Cabinet confabulations to army headquarters? Cabinet meets once a week. Couldn’t there have been alternative arrangement rather than play into the hands of the PPP? One of the attitudes of the PPP when it dominated Guyana was to stick with an unpopular policy simply because the APNU, AFC, the media and critics denounced it. The PPP knew the action was wrong, was not saleable but was inflexible because it wanted to defy the opposition. The APNU-AFC is doing the identical mischief. Moses Nagamootoo of all people must know that accusations of militarization are easily marketable in a majority of PPP’s constituencies. He has the experience to guide him.
My take is that the Coalition knew the Cabinet shift to Camp Ayanganna would not go down well, but it is content to dismiss criticism. It is content to go walk on the same muddy road the PPP traversed. Humans never learn from tragedies of history.

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The person who wrote this article is an imbecile, if they really and truly believe this.

"Moses Nagamootoo of all people must know that accusations of militarization are easily marketable in a majority of PPP’s constituencies. He has the experience to guide him."

And since when the PPP tried to militarize Guyana???  I hereby dismiss this article as Null & Void as it has too much trash to be newsworthy.

Bibi Haniffa
Bibi Haniffa posted:

The person who wrote this article is an imbecile, if they really and truly believe this.

"Moses Nagamootoo of all people must know that accusations of militarization are easily marketable in a majority of PPP’s constituencies. He has the experience to guide him."

And since when the PPP tried to militarize Guyana???  I hereby dismiss this article as Null & Void as it has too much trash to be newsworthy.

You are displaying symptoms of the disease known as dumb and dumber. There is no suggestion that the PPP were into militarization. The inference that the writer makes is that the APNU should have been forewarned that the PPP would opportunistically latch on to cabinet meetings at an army camp as militarization. It further notes the APNU's political bench is thin on experience and Nagamootoo whose grasp is best of the rest and especially as one who knows the PPP praxis should have stood up and lead with a sensible objection to the plan.

I wrote a similar piece on SN comment section yesterday. Granger is completely incapable of nuanced thinking and his rigid linearity in all things makes him suspect as a leader and a pending failure  as a change agent. He needs to open his kitchen cabinet to include people who can talk him off his high horse and to this point no one seems able to do it hence they are either yes men and  women or opportunistic  sycophants.

FM
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Danyael posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

The person who wrote this article is an imbecile, if they really and truly believe this.

"Moses Nagamootoo of all people must know that accusations of militarization are easily marketable in a majority of PPP’s constituencies. He has the experience to guide him."

And since when the PPP tried to militarize Guyana???  I hereby dismiss this article as Null & Void as it has too much trash to be newsworthy.

You are displaying symptoms of the disease known as dumb and dumber. There is no suggestion that the PPP were into militarization. The inference that the writer makes is that the APNU should have been forewarned that the PPP would opportunistically latch on to cabinet meetings at an army camp as militarization. It further notes the APNU's political bench is thin on experience and Nagamootoo whose grasp is best of the rest and especially as one who knows the PPP praxis should have stood up and lead with a sensible objection to the plan.

I wrote a similar piece on SN comment section yesterday. Granger is completely incapable of nuanced thinking and his rigid linearity in all things makes him suspect as a leader and a pending failure  as a change agent. He needs to open his kitchen cabinet to include people who can talk him off his high horse and to this point no one seems able to do it hence they are either yes men and  women or opportunistic  sycophants.

Were you the one who wrote that stupid article on China Machinery?  Can you get this pic published for me in SN under the heading, Kissing me Softly?  It was taken yesterday on the campaign trail.

BJ Kiss

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Bibi Haniffa
Bibi Haniffa posted:

The person who wrote this article is an imbecile, if they really and truly believe this.

"Moses Nagamootoo of all people must know that accusations of militarization are easily marketable in a majority of PPP’s constituencies. He has the experience to guide him."

And since when the PPP tried to militarize Guyana???  I hereby dismiss this article as Null & Void as it has too much trash to be newsworthy.

I hereby declare Bibi an authority to decry any article to her distaste as Null and Void. 

Kari
Demerara_Guy posted:
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

What can you expect from a ceremonial PM??  He is just warming the seat he sits in. 

Indeed it will happen, similar to when the PNC and United Force merged in 1964.

After the merger, the United Force was removed by the PNC which then became the sole ruler of government until 1992.

History will repeat itself.  At this point in time we don't expect AFC leaders to come out and say that they have been deprived of a voice in this government.  It is too embarrassing. It will happen in time to come.

Billy Ram Balgobin
Bibi Haniffa posted:

The person who wrote this article is an imbecile, if they really and truly believe this.

"Moses Nagamootoo of all people must know that accusations of militarization are easily marketable in a majority of PPP’s constituencies. He has the experience to guide him."

And since when the PPP tried to militarize Guyana???  I hereby dismiss this article as Null & Void as it has too much trash to be newsworthy.

Bibi thanks for revealing that you are an idiot.  The writer is saying that the PPP is screaming hysteria to Indians that the PNC will militarize Guyana, and by holding meetings at Camp Ayanganna the PNC is making these screams more credible.

 

Quit being defensive of the PPP.  They aren't worth it.  And yes they did PARAmilitarize Guyana by letting Roger Khan and other narco hooligans do as they wish.

FM
Demerara_Guy posted:
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

What can you expect from a ceremonial PM??  He is just warming the seat he sits in. 

Indeed it will happen, similar to when the PNC and United Force merged in 1964.

After the merger, the United Force was removed by the PNC which then became the sole ruler of government until 1992.

The PNC will not get rid of the AFC because the AFC does as they are told.  The UF was dumped because they had an entirely different philosophy to Burnham, do he get rid of them.

The notion of the AFC existing independent of APNU is foolish, and for this reason the AFC will remain where they are.

FM
Mr.T posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

And since when the PPP tried to militarize Guyana???  I hereby dismiss this article as Null & Void as it has too much trash to be newsworthy.

I don't often agree with you, but on this occasion I must. It is indeed true that the PPP did not try to militarise the country. They created a narco state instead.

They did "militarize" the country.  Rather than using the GDF they used Roger Khan's army.

FM
Bibi Haniffa posted:

The person who wrote this article is an imbecile, if they really and truly believe this.

"Moses Nagamootoo of all people must know that accusations of militarization are easily marketable in a majority of PPP’s constituencies. He has the experience to guide him."

And since when the PPP tried to militarize Guyana???  I hereby dismiss this article as Null & Void as it has too much trash to be newsworthy.

Correct Bibi. That article is Yellow Journalism.

They are attempting to daab PNC filth on the PPP. It will not work, this AFC/PNC administration is a disaster, no amount of spin can save them.

FM
caribny posted:
Mr.T posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

And since when the PPP tried to militarize Guyana???  I hereby dismiss this article as Null & Void as it has too much trash to be newsworthy.

I don't often agree with you, but on this occasion I must. It is indeed true that the PPP did not try to militarise the country. They created a narco state instead.

They did "militarize" the country.  Rather than using the GDF they used Roger Khan's army.

RK defended Indos from a bunch of Black PNC who were conducting Indo extermination .

FM
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Danyael posted:
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:
Danyael posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

 

de man looking for wuk where he does not use his  tool!

Take him out a bike ride through the woods.  He will show what is Low Carbon Initiative  part 2. 

Take your own suggestion....

After your rendezvous with your arch enemy you will return on your bike with a stamp on your butt that says "Zero Emission". 

Billy Ram Balgobin
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:
Danyael posted:
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:
Danyael posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

 

de man looking for wuk where he does not use his  tool!

Take him out a bike ride through the woods.  He will show what is Low Carbon Initiative  part 2. 

Take your own suggestion....

After your rendezvous with your arch enemy you will return on your bike with a stamp on your butt that says "Zero Emission". 

I'd more believe his arch enemy would return on his bike with stuff oozing between the lips.

cain
caribny posted:
Mr.T posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

And since when the PPP tried to militarize Guyana???  I hereby dismiss this article as Null & Void as it has too much trash to be newsworthy.

I don't often agree with you, but on this occasion I must. It is indeed true that the PPP did not try to militarise the country. They created a narco state instead.

They did "militarize" the country.  Rather than using the GDF they used Roger Khan's army.

The GDF and GPF were part of the equation to terrorize the Indians. It was a dirty job to save Guyana. Somebody had to do it..long live RK and Gajraj.

FM
Danyael posted:
Drugb posted:

Imagine when short man get release, them PNC bais gun get diarrhea. 

I hope they bring a case against him. There is no statute of limitation on murder.

You should go on a fact finding mission to Buxton and compile a good report on the genesis of the African Resistance and the Phantoms. If done properly you will be able to elevate yourself above the GNI forum and become known in the real world.  If you go on such a mission I hope you would return alive with both of your campo balls intact.

Billy Ram Balgobin
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:
Danyael posted:
Drugb posted:

Imagine when short man get release, them PNC bais gun get diarrhea. 

I hope they bring a case against him. There is no statute of limitation on murder.

You should go on a fact finding mission to Buxton and compile a good report on the genesis of the African Resistance and the Phantoms. If done properly you will be able to elevate yourself above the GNI forum and become known in the real world.  If you go on such a mission I hope you would return alive with both of your campo balls intact.

Why is that my problem? Security is the state responsibility and the PPP at the time had the job of securing the state. That they hired a drug lord to murder citizens as a part of their state security apparatus is as wrong as you can get with addressing this problem.

FM
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caribny posted:
The notion of the AFC existing independent of APNU is foolish, and for this reason the AFC will remain where they are.

At this stage in the Guyana political game I have to agree with you. Even AFC Leader Khemraj Ramjattan had predicted "dead meat" as his party's destiny teaming up with APNU. I think dem AFC bai and gyal gon stay wid APNU fo mo red meat.

FM
Danyael posted:
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:
Danyael posted:
Drugb posted:

Imagine when short man get release, them PNC bais gun get diarrhea. 

I hope they bring a case against him. There is no statute of limitation on murder.

You should go on a fact finding mission to Buxton and compile a good report on the genesis of the African Resistance and the Phantoms. If done properly you will be able to elevate yourself above the GNI forum and become known in the real world.  If you go on such a mission I hope you would return alive with both of your campo balls intact.

Why is that my problem? Security is the state responsibility and the PPP at the time had the job of securing the state. That they hired a drug lord to murder citizens as a part of their state security apparatus is as wrong as you can get with addressing this problem.

What did you expect the man to do when the police and army failed in their duties to quarantine Buxton and stop the mayhem by the Freedom Fighters?  Have you forgotten that David Hinds and Eusi Kwayana were forced to flee Buxton?? They did not leave because of Roger Khan.. They returned to Buxton because of Roger Khan. Jagdeo was declared a Lil Boy and Gay by the opposition and some in his own because the blood bath went on incessantly with so many people dying. He was accused for not doing anything.  Finally, he grew balls and took on the infamous FF and won. The emergence of drug trafficker as savior did not go down well with many, but it brought peace and saved many precious lives.  

Jagdeo will be remembered for the action and he took to stop the violence. He did not just offer political rhetoric as you and many others do.  He took the bull by the horn and stopped the insanity. 

Billy Ram Balgobin
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:
 

Jagdeo will be remembered for the action and he took to stop the violence. He did not just offer political rhetoric as you and many others do.  He took the bull by the horn and stopped the insanity. 

The British and others offered to help the PPP upgrade the army, the police and the courts so that proper mechanisms could have been used to curtail crime.

The PPP refused help, fearing that its connections to narco traffickers would have been revealed. So they allowed para militias to be developed using the narco traffickers.

So now we have a weak criminal fighting apparatus, and as the narco traffickers now no longer have control over their former para militias, we have well armed and well trained men creating mayhem.

In the mean time Roger has been gang raped in jail and is on suicide watch.

FM
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:
Danyael posted:
Billy Ram Balgobin posted:
Danyael posted:
Drugb posted:

Imagine when short man get release, them PNC bais gun get diarrhea. 

I hope they bring a case against him. There is no statute of limitation on murder.

You should go on a fact finding mission to Buxton and compile a good report on the genesis of the African Resistance and the Phantoms. If done properly you will be able to elevate yourself above the GNI forum and become known in the real world.  If you go on such a mission I hope you would return alive with both of your campo balls intact.

Why is that my problem? Security is the state responsibility and the PPP at the time had the job of securing the state. That they hired a drug lord to murder citizens as a part of their state security apparatus is as wrong as you can get with addressing this problem.

What did you expect the man to do when the police and army failed in their duties to quarantine Buxton and stop the mayhem by the Freedom Fighters?  Have you forgotten that David Hinds and Eusi Kwayana were forced to flee Buxton?? They did not leave because of Roger Khan.. They returned to Buxton because of Roger Khan. Jagdeo was declared a Lil Boy and Gay by the opposition and some in his own because the blood bath went on incessantly with so many people dying. He was accused for not doing anything.  Finally, he grew balls and took on the infamous FF and won. The emergence of drug trafficker as savior did not go down well with many, but it brought peace and saved many precious lives.  

Jagdeo will be remembered for the action and he took to stop the violence. He did not just offer political rhetoric as you and many others do.  He took the bull by the horn and stopped the insanity. 

I expected him to follow the rule of law and the agencies of the law to address the problem. There are countless ways to do this and the default mode is not the appeal to the dark arts.

Rojer was an uneducated, bit crook in the US making small change selling guns for which crime he ran to GY. There, he rapidly became one of the richest men in the country.  That did not arise in a vaccum or outside the knowledge of those who granted him lands, and protected him when the law laid hands on him. He was an instrument of corruption interwoven into the PPP manner of governing. Ever  wondered how he came to Gagrag's and Jagdeo attention if they were not complicit with his crimes?He, Dataram, Morgan etc were reasons the US stopped serving open warrants for Guyanese drug king pins. The PPP shielded them so they had to nab them on the sly.

Jagdeo will go down as a murderer who got away with it. Additionally, he was a liar who claimed he had a wife and a wife abuser for abusing said fake wife and most of all for turning the PPP to a low down dirty crooked cartel steeped in the underbelly of all that was nasty and bad for our society.

 

 

 

FM
Danyael posted:
Drugb posted:

Imagine when short man get release, them PNC bais gun get diarrhea. 

I hope they bring a case against him. There is no statute of limitation on murder.

Keep on hoping but don't hold your breath as after 1 1/2 years, zero PPP jailed for corruption or otherwise even after friends and family of the PNC made boatloads of money on forensic audits. Politics makes for strange bedfellows, don't be surprised if RK is heavily mixed up with PNC/AFC operatives. You from your perch of luxury in the US don't know Guyanese runnings but yet you act like an expert. 

FM
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