skeldon_man posted:

 

With all due respect, does this hold true before the NCV? If it doesn't, please explain why? If it does, does this mean all APNU members must resign their seats immediately and every bill they voted for will be null and void? Does this mean the PNC/AFC government is minority government and should vacate office immediately?

Am i not clear in my posts ??

Voters vote for a Closed list of Candidates in Regional and National Elections, Members of Parliament, who holds Dual Citizenship can be asked to resign and other Candidate(s)  from the list takes their place.That settles the issue regarding the Government.

Prior voting including the NCV of the Dual Citizens Members will be decided by the Judge.

VishMahabir posted:

ronan posted:

there is a special carve-out in the Guyana Constitution - Article 106 - dealing with the 'overthrow' of a legally elected Government by NCV for a reason

it is grave business

i again offer the USA comparison which, while inexact, provides a kind of clarity the scampish, hurry-up-before-they-ketch-on, GT media assets of Jagdeo husslin to avoid at ALL COSTS:

- what if Charandaas Persaud was a (Canadian) dual-citizen US Senator illegally occupying that seat who cast the deciding vote to impeach a hypothetical sitting US president?

then promptly requests Canadian Consular assistance as he rushes to the airport, leaves the country using his Canadian passport, and hunkers down in Toronto telling all who would listen "so what if i was bribed?"

how do y'all think the Supreme Court would rule?

how do y'all think the court of public opinion would rule?

how would a free, independent media treat this? -

- what if Charandaas Persaud was a (Canadian) dual-citizen US Senator illegally occupying that seat who cast the deciding vote to impeach a hypothetical sitting US president?

There are several Congressmen (even Obama and Trump) who claim dual citizenship. The US Constitution does not address this issue. The Guyana Constitution does. I am sure dual citizens would have voted for impeachment in the past, but this has not been a factor. Those Parliamentarians in Guyana must have known or should have known, and had an obligation to know what the Constitution says about this issue. The fact that they choose to ignore it is no excuse. Its not OK to claim precedent that dates back to Janel Jagan.

Comparison with the US is not a good one…maybe a parliamentary democracy, rather than a presidential democracy like the US, might be better looked at for lessons learned.  

then promptly requests Canadian Consular assistance as he rushes to the airport, leaves the country using his Canadian passport, and hunkers down in Toronto telling all who would listen "so what if i was bribed?"

If Charandass was doing this in the US, he would have no need to hurriedly leave the country. The man was threaten in broad daylight, could not even trust the Home Minister…and lets not pretend, you know very well that the man’s life would have been in danger and he would have been subjected to the worst type of society. Guyana’s political culture, either welcomes or sanctions political violence…Rodney, the Buxton killings, Sash Sawh…the list goes on.

how do y'all think the Supreme Court would rule?

how do y'all think the court of public opinion would rule?

None of the GNIers have a crystal ball. In my opinion, if its not in the US Constitution, then the US Supreme Court might sanction the impeachment without consideration that the American Charandas is also a US citizen.  The sanction on the individual would be a political, rather than legal, because members of his constituency may not re-elect him to office. 

VishMahabir, yours is a fine response to my hypothetical, albeit laden with avoidance of key issues

i am busy right now and will address your points tonight

Django posted:

Dave posted:

@ Django.

Do you agree all of Charandass  vote prior to the NCV are valid in the National Assembly. 

Please provide a honest straight forward answer. 

Yes or No. to my question.

What makes you think it's that simple ? any way that's not a huge red herring.

What a fk up response, you start drinking early. 

skeldon_man posted:

Django posted:

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Django posted:

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

How the hell did the government get into office with the vote of that same illegal member? 

So Charrandass vote get the Coalition Gov't in office ? think and rephrase your post. Noticeably some one like your erroneous post.

His vote was valid when passing budgets and legislations.  Why suddenly his vote is invalid?

The Judge will decide. There are some grey areas with his NCV.

Djangy bhai, How come when you are cornered about facts and legal decisions, you resort to: let the courts decide and the judge will decide that? Isn't this a cop-out or dodging the issue?

Very good observation.

It’s call The Hypocrisy Of Django”  

Dave posted:

Django posted:

Dave posted:

@ Django.

Do you agree all of Charandass  vote prior to the NCV are valid in the National Assembly. 

Please provide a honest straight forward answer. 

Yes or No. to my question.

What makes you think it's that simple ? any way that's not a huge red herring.

What a fk up response, you start drinking early. 

I am not a regular drinker bhai, read my responses  regarding some of your questions are on other threads. There are answers.

Why Al YUh like waste time with FILTH HEAD DUMMIES???? Why???//!!!

Dave posted:

 

Very good observation.

It’s call The Hypocrisy Of Django”  

Hogwash !!! i stay the course.

Nehru posted:

Why Al YUh like waste time with FILTH HEAD DUMMIES???? Why???//!!!

Maybe dem jus like converse with you nuh..

cain posted:

Nehru posted:

Why Al YUh like waste time with FILTH HEAD DUMMIES???? Why???//!!!

Maybe dem jus like converse with you nuh..

Another Mad man show up. Wait till you hear his Doozey

Nehru posted:

Kasz, dont insult the FOOL Trump   

Those SHIT HEADS dont know their mouths from their asses.

You have elevated him to a very high point, Nehru.

Django posted:

Dave posted:

 

Very good observation.

It’s call The Hypocrisy Of Django”  

Hogwash !!! i stay the course.

Ha Ha!! You stay the course. Laud of mercy. 

DUMBO FOREVER!!!

Dave posted:

Django posted:

Dave posted:

 

Very good observation.

It’s call The Hypocrisy Of Django”  

Hogwash !!! i stay the course.

Ha Ha!! You stay the course. Laud of mercy. 

 

Loyalty right over the CLIFF.