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antabanta posted:

Why did God have to take six days to make the world? How could God get tired and need rest? Shouldn't creation have been no more than a thought for the being that we imagine to be God? And should this God not be tireless?

First, we should quote the verse correctly. It doesn’t say God “needed” to rest; it simply says that He did rest. Also, it is clear from Scripture that God did not rest because He was tired. Genesis 17:1 calls God the “Almighty God.” Psalm 147:5 says, “Great is our Lord, and mighty in power; His understanding is infinite.” God is all-powerful; He never tires and never needs to rest. As Isaiah 40:28 says, “The everlasting God, the Lord, the Creator of the ends of the earth, neither faints nor is weary.” God is the sum of perfection; He is never diminished in any way, and that includes being diminished in power.

The Hebrew word translated “rested” in Genesis 2:2 includes other ideas than that of being tired. In fact, one of the main definitions of the Hebrew word shabat is “to cease or stop.” In Genesis 2:2 the understanding is that God “stopped” His work; He “ceased” creating on the seventh day. All that He had created was good, and His work was finished.

God did not merely “rest” on the seventh day; He “stopped creating.” It was a purposeful stop. Everything He desired to create had been made.

As for the first part of your question I would direct you to read this link.

Food for thought:
Proverbs 18:1-3

18 A man who isolates himself seeks his own desire;
He rages against all wise judgment.

A fool has no delight in understanding,
But in expressing his own heart.

When the wicked comes, contempt comes also;
And with dishonor comes reproach.

Keith
antabanta posted:

I think you would've served yourself better by saying you couldn't answer my questions.

Next time consider the following before your folly. 

"Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding", Proverbs 4:7

Keith
Amral posted:

From my Sunday school days I think he called the 7th day, the day of rest. The day of rest has been used as the day of worship. 

I've to disagree with you depending on how you define the words "rest". As mention in the above post the Hebrew word translated “rested” in Genesis 2:2 includes other ideas than that of being tired. In fact, one of the main definitions of the Hebrew word shabat is “to cease or stop.”

We have to read carefully, it's written in Exodus 20: 9-10,
"Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:".

On the seventh day we stop doing what we did for the past six days, we are to cease all labor. Many of us use the seventh day to attend services to worship and to have fellowship with one another some even spend the day visiting families etc. As long there is no manual labor you are keeping the seventh day holy as was instructed by God.

So "rest" in your context would be, "a day of no manual labor".

Keith
Keith posted:
antabanta posted:

I think you would've served yourself better by saying you couldn't answer my questions.

Next time consider the following before your folly. 

"Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding", Proverbs 4:7

My folly is you can't answer simple questions???

A
Keith posted:
Amral posted:

From my Sunday school days I think he called the 7th day, the day of rest. The day of rest has been used as the day of worship. 

I've to disagree with you depending on how you define the words "rest". As mention in the above post the Hebrew word translated “rested” in Genesis 2:2 includes other ideas than that of being tired. In fact, one of the main definitions of the Hebrew word shabat is “to cease or stop.”

We have to read carefully, it's written in Exodus 20: 9-10,
"Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:".

On the seventh day we stop doing what we did for the past six days, we are to cease all labor. Many of us use the seventh day to attend services to worship and to have fellowship with one another some even spend the day visiting families etc. As long there is no manual labor you are keeping the seventh day holy as was instructed by God.

So "rest" in your context would be, "a day of no manual labor".

For whom did God need to keep the 7th day holy?

A
antabanta posted:
Keith posted:
Amral posted:

From my Sunday school days I think he called the 7th day, the day of rest. The day of rest has been used as the day of worship. 

I've to disagree with you depending on how you define the words "rest". As mention in the above post the Hebrew word translated “rested” in Genesis 2:2 includes other ideas than that of being tired. In fact, one of the main definitions of the Hebrew word shabat is “to cease or stop.”

We have to read carefully, it's written in Exodus 20: 9-10,
"Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:".

On the seventh day we stop doing what we did for the past six days, we are to cease all labor. Many of us use the seventh day to attend services to worship and to have fellowship with one another some even spend the day visiting families etc. As long there is no manual labor you are keeping the seventh day holy as was instructed by God.

So "rest" in your context would be, "a day of no manual labor".

For whom did God need to keep the 7th day holy?

You have proven my point, you do have a problem comprehending. Go back and read and get some understanding then come back and lets reason.

Keith
antabanta posted:
Keith posted:
antabanta posted:

I think you would've served yourself better by saying you couldn't answer my questions.

Next time consider the following before your folly. 

"Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding", Proverbs 4:7

My folly is you can't answer simple questions???

In case you missed my response above or some how failed to read it, here it is again for you.
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Your question: Why did God have to take six days to make the world?
My previous response was: As for the first part of your question I would direct you to read this link.
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Keith
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Keith posted:
antabanta posted:
Keith posted:
antabanta posted:

I think you would've served yourself better by saying you couldn't answer my questions.

Next time consider the following before your folly. 

"Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding", Proverbs 4:7

My folly is you can't answer simple questions???

In case you missed my response above or some how failed to read it, here it is again for you.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Your question: Why did God have to take six days to make the world?
My previous response was: As for the first part of your question I would direct you to read this link.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I did not miss your poor response. I did not read any of your quotes or click on any links. As stated before, you would've served yourself better by saying you can't answer my questions. Here are the questions again:

Why did God have to take six days to make the world?

Shouldn't creation have been no more than a thought for the being that we imagine to be God?

How can God get tired and need rest? 

And should this God not be tireless?

A
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antabanta posted:
 

In case you missed my response above or some how failed to read it, here it is again for you.
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Your question: Why did God have to take six days to make the world?
My previous response was: As for the first part of your question I would direct you to read this link.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I did not miss your poor response. I did not read any of your quotes or click on any links. As stated before, you would've served yourself better by saying you can't answer my questions. Here are the questions again:

Why did God have to take six days to make the world?

Shouldn't creation have been no more than a thought for the being that we imagine to be God?

How can God get tired and need rest? 

And should this God not be tireless?

Ah lets see, I failed to answer your questions because you choose "not to read any of" my response in "quotes or click on any links" Did I get that right? Were you drop and hit your head as an infant? Reread your statement above and you will see how unintelligent it sounds.

Keith
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Keith posted:
antabanta posted:
 

In case you missed my response above or some how failed to read it, here it is again for you.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Your question: Why did God have to take six days to make the world?
My previous response was: As for the first part of your question I would direct you to read this link.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I did not miss your poor response. I did not read any of your quotes or click on any links. As stated before, you would've served yourself better by saying you can't answer my questions. Here are the questions again:

Why did God have to take six days to make the world?

Shouldn't creation have been no more than a thought for the being that we imagine to be God?

How can God get tired and need rest? 

And should this God not be tireless?

Ah lets see, I failed to answer your questions because you choose "not to read any of" my response in "quotes or click on any links" Did I get that right? Were you drop and hit your head as an infant? Reread your statement above and you will see how unintelligent it sounds.

Well now... despite being dropped on the head or not, I'm still smart enough to know that quotes and links are other people's opinions and thoughts, not yours. Maybe your head needed to hit the ground a few times to get some sense.

A
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Keith posted:
antabanta posted:
Well now... despite being dropped on the head or not, I'm still smart enough to know that quotes and links are other people's opinions and thoughts, not yours. Maybe your head needed to hit the ground a few times to get some sense.

If you got more questions, you know those silly ones you love to ask, visit my site to get a proper understanding.

That's right. You have to dodge the hard questions by ridiculing them. What you don't know is your strategy is transparent. If your posts here is any indication of your site, no thanks.

A

When it comes to this topic, I find the following passage very informative. I don't believe that God has any limitations. My belief is that for God to bring anything into existence, all he needs to do is decree it. The Qur'an uses the term "kun fa ya koon", "be and it is".

اللّهُ لاَ إِلَـهَ إِلاَّ هُوَ الْحَيُّ الْقَيُّومُ لاَ تَأْخُذُهُ سِنَةٌ وَلاَ نَوْمٌ لَّهُ مَا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَمَا فِي الأَرْضِ مَن ذَا الَّذِي يَشْفَعُ عِنْدَهُ إِلاَّ بِإِذْنِهِ يَعْلَمُ مَا بَيْنَ أَيْدِيهِمْ وَمَا خَلْفَهُمْ وَلاَ يُحِيطُونَ بِشَيْءٍ مِّنْ عِلْمِهِ إِلاَّ بِمَا شَاء وَسِعَ كُرْسِيُّهُ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالأَرْضَ وَلاَ يَؤُودُهُ حِفْظُهُمَا وَهُوَ الْعَلِيُّ الْعَظِيمُ

Allah. There is no god but Him,-the Living, the Self-subsisting, Eternal. No slumber can seize Him nor sleep. His are all things in the heavens and on earth. Who is there can intercede in His presence except as He permits? He knows what (appears to His creatures as) before or after or behind them. Nor shall they compass aught of His knowledge except as He wills. His Throne extends over the heavens and the earth, and He feels no fatigue in guarding and preserving them for He is the Most High, the Supreme (in glory).

FM

I think that if I have even one thing that is greater than God, then God is not worth my worship or devotion. I find it funny that some people declare that they are helping God do this or do that as when they say that they are God's helpers. Muslims do it too. This in spite of the Qur'an clearly stating that God is sufficient in every way.

FM

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