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Nehru posted:

Yes we are in Stallin's Russia or is it Mussilini's Italy???

Dude, every smart fly gets caught in you know where. When the scales of justice moves one way it must move back for such are the ways of things inevitably just The American system is relentlessly self correcting. No one, has ever been able to game the system and get off Scott free. i am assured that this fellow in his arrogance will stumble over on him self. 

FM
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Baseman posted:

Keep dreaming!!!

That is not a response. It is sickening to the soul that this great power is being used by a seriously peculiar fellow as he sees fit. Imagine the justice department of this, the world most eminent democracy, is used according to the corrupt whims of this fellow to protect his behind. If he had nothing to worry about, he need not go through these hoops to gerrymander a crony into office of a sacred place. It is not dreaming to hope the system can mediate his abuse of power. Thank the universe for the win in congress. For the first time he has a check to his power that will ramp up as soon as the new congress sits. 

FM
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D2 posted:
Baseman posted:

Keep dreaming!!!

That is not a response. It is sicken to the soul that this great power is being used by a seriously peculiar fellow as he sees fit. Imagine the justice department of this, the world most eminent democracy is used according to the corrupt whims of this fellow to protect his behind. IF he had nothing to worry about, he need not go through these hoops to gerrymander a crony into office of a sacred place. 

He has been elected king.  He is using the powers vested according to the constitution!  And he is doing so wisely.  Sessions should have been fired a long time ago.  Trump should now go ahead and fire Mueller.  

Baseman
Baseman posted:
D2 posted:
Baseman posted:

Keep dreaming!!!

That is not a response. It is sicken to the soul that this great power is being used by a seriously peculiar fellow as he sees fit. Imagine the justice department of this, the world most eminent democracy is used according to the corrupt whims of this fellow to protect his behind. IF he had nothing to worry about, he need not go through these hoops to gerrymander a crony into office of a sacred place. 

He has been elected king.  He is using the powers vested according to the constitution!  And he is doing so wisely.  Sessions should have been fired a long time ago.  Trump should now go ahead and fire Mueller.  

That the US does not elect kings was set down in precedence by the first president, George Washington. While not a very bright man he was a very honorable man and sought to preserve an elected democracy over strong men or elected regent. 

If he moves to end the Muller probe there will be an immediate move to impeach him hence the slight of hand trick to control the investigation. You also miss the fact that you are dealing with legal scholars who are devoted to the American constitution. Mueller definitely will be anticipating that move. 

FM
D2 posted:
Baseman posted:
D2 posted:
Baseman posted:

Keep dreaming!!!

That is not a response. It is sicken to the soul that this great power is being used by a seriously peculiar fellow as he sees fit. Imagine the justice department of this, the world most eminent democracy is used according to the corrupt whims of this fellow to protect his behind. IF he had nothing to worry about, he need not go through these hoops to gerrymander a crony into office of a sacred place. 

He has been elected king.  He is using the powers vested according to the constitution!  And he is doing so wisely.  Sessions should have been fired a long time ago.  Trump should now go ahead and fire Mueller.  

That the US does not elect kings was set down in precedence by the first president, George Washington. While not a very bright man he was a very honorable man and sought to preserve an elected democracy over strong men or elected regent. 

If he moves to end the Muller probe there will be an immediate move to impeach him hence the slight of hand trick to control the investigation. You also miss the fact that you are dealing with legal scholars who are devoted to the American constitution. Mueller definitely will be anticipating that move. 

If he violates the constitution, then impeach!!

Baseman
Baseman posted:
D2 posted:
Baseman posted: If he violates the constitution, then impeach!!
 

Interfering with an investigation into ones self is grounds for such. I am not advising it . You suggest it is a desirous strategy. 

The new AG will rein him in. 

The new temporary AG is as flunky. I do not think he will be approved by the senate. The trick here is he can hold the post for a long time because Sessions resigned and was not fired so trump was filling a vacant post. 

FM

Trump is a smart man. He sweats a person until he gave up, or shove a stick up your hiney and send you out the back door. He runs his own agenda on his own term. That's what I love about him for. If you are a shithole, he tells you like it is. He is Classic President for America and the era we are living in. He is draining the swamp dry, one day at a time. 

FM
Ray posted:

It's actually his own swamp since he hired all these people he firing....obviously he only know swamp rats

He hired people and he fired people. He has executive privileges and protection. Everyone that he hired signed the rules of employment. What's with the rat business you are talking about? That's not how intelligent people describe people. This definitely classified you as a shithole. Would you accept that?

FM
Baseman posted:
skeldon_man posted:

The new temp AG was a football jock from Iowa. He might fade when he is being schooled by Mueller. He will be no match for Mueller. He will run to papa Trump for rescue.

Watch how this cat will be skinned!!

Even if there was a cat to be skinned have you reflected on the morality of skinning this cat? He is investigating whether the Russians interfered with the elections and that is a foregone conclusion since he already has indictments here. The second aspect is more dangerous; if the Trump campaign was cooperated with the disinformation strategy of a foreign nation to undermine US elections. These are important to democracy...seminal to it so if it happened it is grave. If it did not then so be it. If the president is clean he would not worry. The problem here is he has been consumed in stopping this. You need to reflect on this.

FM
Prince posted:
Ray posted:

It's actually his own swamp since he hired all these people he firing....obviously he only know swamp rats

He hired people and he fired people. He has executive privileges and protection. Everyone that he hired signed the rules of employment. What's with the rat business you are talking about? That's not how intelligent people describe people. This definitely classified you as a shithole. Would you accept that?

You are a jackass. He nominates AG and the Senate confirms. As with Jagdeo putting forward GECOM candidates and Granger is to select if the process goes wrong democracy is undermined. He can only fire for a reason. It is careless firings that got Nixon booted.

Please do not speak of intelligent people. You would not know them if you meet them.

FM
Prince posted:
Ray posted:

It's actually his own swamp since he hired all these people he firing....obviously he only know swamp rats

He hired people and he fired people. He has executive privileges and protection. Everyone that he hired signed the rules of employment. What's with the rat business you are talking about? That's not how intelligent people describe people. This definitely classified you as a shithole. Would you accept that?

While indeed a president has executive privileges, he must be judicious in the manner of its application.

He has proven, time and again, of his inept application for such privileges.

Hiring political personnel for his administration are his choice and indeed he can fire them at his will and fancies.

He can indeed use executive orders for his agenda, but as is well noted; they can be challenged in the courts which can then rule them as non-effective, large parts non-effective or indeed uphold such orders.

Of important note ... executive orders are simply decisions of a president; they are not enshrined in the laws; and hence they can be deleted/voided by another president.

FM
D2 posted:
Baseman posted:
skeldon_man posted:

The new temp AG was a football jock from Iowa. He might fade when he is being schooled by Mueller. He will be no match for Mueller. He will run to papa Trump for rescue.

Watch how this cat will be skinned!!

Even if there was a cat to be skinned have you reflected on the morality of skinning this cat? He is investigating whether the Russians interfered.....

Seems the Russians will develop a new generation of missiles in the time it takes them to figure. And will will be into another election. 

When you digging for what’s not there, it takes long.    We still looking for saddam’s WMD!!

Thus far nada.  All indictments had nothing to do with election.  

Baseman
Baseman posted:
D2 posted:
Baseman posted:
skeldon_man posted:

The new temp AG was a football jock from Iowa. He might fade when he is being schooled by Mueller. He will be no match for Mueller. He will run to papa Trump for rescue.

Watch how this cat will be skinned!!

Even if there was a cat to be skinned have you reflected on the morality of skinning this cat? He is investigating whether the Russians interfered.....

Seems the Russians will develop a new generation of missiles in the time it takes them to figure. And will will be into another election. 

When you digging for what’s not there, it takes long.    We still looking for saddam’s WMD!!

Thus far nada.  All indictments had nothing to do with election.  

It took the special counsel investigating Clinton seven years. This is almost complete and unto 18 months.  Then they got nothing on the original whitewater claim but of lying about Monica. Imagine if lying was a problem with this fellow who is a veritable fountain of lies daily? Mueller has over 20 indictment so far and 16 were about Russians and the rest indirectly so by officials close to the orange one. 

FM
Prince posted:
Ray posted:

It's actually his own swamp since he hired all these people he firing....obviously he only know swamp rats

He hired people and he fired people. He has executive privileges and protection. Everyone that he hired signed the rules of employment. What's with the rat business you are talking about? That's not how intelligent people describe people. This definitely classified you as a shithole. Would you accept that?

I don't see what it got to do with me...you think he draining the swamp, I think the swamp is his own creation, so he just cleaning out the poop that he hired.....to make room for supposedly better poop

FM
Ray posted:
Prince posted:
Ray posted:

It's actually his own swamp since he hired all these people he firing....obviously he only know swamp rats

He hired people and he fired people. He has executive privileges and protection. Everyone that he hired signed the rules of employment. What's with the rat business you are talking about? That's not how intelligent people describe people. This definitely classified you as a shithole. Would you accept that?

I don't see what it got to do with me...you think he draining the swamp, I think the swamp is his own creation, so he just cleaning out the poop that he hired.....to make room for supposedly better poop

Perhaps stirring the swamp to get much more poop for his "plate".

FM

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