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FM
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Why are we so drenched in this mythical belief that when the PPP lose an election it's because of rigging? Why does the PPP predict rigging ahead of time when they are in the opposition?

In 2015, NO prediction of rigging was mentioned on behalf of the PPP because they were confident of winning. The rigging came AFTER PPP found out they were DEFEATED. 

Why am I not fazed by this rigging belief like most of you do? Well, a plausible discussion may convince me or shut me up. Let's try!

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Mitwah posted:

Some believe that the PPP know that they will not win. So, it is easier to shift the blame to rigging rather than  acknowledging the shift in the support base and especially from the grass roots supporters who feel ignored. 

A plausible explanation, Mitwah. But do you think the ABC myth of "regime change" sets the stage for the coalition continuous win? This is another myth has to be addressed to be fair that nothing else remains a factor.  

FM

The Americans kept Jagan out of office until 1992... when BJ show up with Donald in 2015 to meet Carter.. he Carter walk out without meeting Donald ... the Americans will not allow BJ to be president of Guyana.. 

Freedom House needs new breed of leadship that is inclusive of all races. It was Dr Jagan vision to unite the races.

 

FM
Dave posted:

The Americans kept Jagan out of office until 1992... when BJ show up with Donald in 2015 to meet Carter.. he Carter walk out without meeting Donald ... the Americans will not allow BJ to be president of Guyana.. 

Freedom House needs new breed of leadship that is inclusive of all races. It was Dr Jagan vision to unite the races.

 

Me thinks you right!

Baseman
Baseman posted:
Dave posted:

The Americans kept Jagan out of office until 1992... when BJ show up with Donald in 2015 to meet Carter.. he Carter walk out without meeting Donald ... the Americans will not allow BJ to be president of Guyana.. 

Freedom House needs new breed of leadship that is inclusive of all races. It was Dr Jagan vision to unite the races.

 

Me thinks you right!

I share the same view as Dave.

There is no doomsday for Indo Guyanese,they still hold power in business and  the local government.What is needed to get back in central Government is to re-tool and weed out the racist.

Django

Only idiots will make reference to 'mythical belief' and 'PPP know that they will not win' ! The historical track records of the PNC in rigging of elections and destruction of the economy are there for even GNI idiots to see and acknowledge. The drivers of the Guyana economy are certainly not those who are perpetually willing and ready to 'jump up and wine up' on the streets of Georgetown at the drop of a hat; it is that segment of the population that is endowed with ethics that have to do with work, family & personal/economic development.     

K
Dave posted:

The Americans kept Jagan out of office until 1992... when BJ show up with Donald in 2015 to meet Carter.. he Carter walk out without meeting Donald ... the Americans will not allow BJ to be president of Guyana.. 

Freedom House needs new breed of leadship that is inclusive of all races. It was Dr Jagan vision to unite the races.

 

This was proven when the CIA report was declassified that the American help to put Burnham in power until they realize he was a monster. But, is this a repeat that the American (via Carter visit) found out that Jagdeo is a monster in the PPP?  

FM
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Prince posted:
Mitwah posted:

Some believe that the PPP know that they will not win. So, it is easier to shift the blame to rigging rather than  acknowledging the shift in the support base and especially from the grass roots supporters who feel ignored. 

A plausible explanation, Mitwah. But do you think the ABC myth of "regime change" sets the stage for the coalition continuous win? This is another myth has to be addressed to be fair that nothing else remains a factor.  

Dave posted:

The Americans kept Jagan out of office until 1992... when BJ show up with Donald in 2015 to meet Carter.. he Carter walk out without meeting Donald ... the Americans will not allow BJ to be president of Guyana.. 

Freedom House needs new breed of leadship that is inclusive of all races. It was Dr Jagan vision to unite the races.

 

Prince, bhai you asking Mitwah to explain a Myth.  Dave hit the nail on the head with his post. Base also mentioned the influence of the USA. I agree with him.

Will the Russians get involved?

Mitwah
Prince posted:
Dave posted:

The Americans kept Jagan out of office until 1992... when BJ show up with Donald in 2015 to meet Carter.. he Carter walk out without meeting Donald ... the Americans will not allow BJ to be president of Guyana.. 

Freedom House needs new breed of leadship that is inclusive of all races. It was Dr Jagan vision to unite the races.

 

This was proven when the CIA report was declassified that the American help to put Burnham in power until they realize he was a monster. But, is this a repeat that the American (via Carter visit) found out that Jagdeo is a monster in the PPP?  

"Unfortunately, there is a “winner take all” custom in Guyana, and the efforts of The Carter Center to change this system to a greater sharing of power have been fruitless. On my last visit to Guyana in 2004, I announced in frustration that we were through with these efforts to help.

Since both major parties and the Guyanese election commission (GECOM) invited us to observe this election, we agreed to return."


 

Here is a recap from President Carter after the 2015 Elections.

 

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Django
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