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GAZA/JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Israeli troops killed dozens of Palestinians taking part in mass protests on the Gaza border on Monday as the United States opened its embassy to Israel in Jerusalem. 

The U.S. relocation of its embassy from Tel Aviv fulfilled a pledge by U.S. President Donald Trump, who has recognized the holy city as the Israeli capital, but it has fired Palestinian anger and drawn criticism from many foreign governments as a setback to peace efforts.

At the embassy inauguration ceremony, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu thanked Trump for “having the courage to keep your promises”.

“What a glorious day for Israel,” Netanyahu said in a speech. “We are in Jerusalem and we are here to stay.”

Trump, in a recorded message, said he remained committed to peace between Israel and the Palestinians. He was represented at the ceremony by his daughter Ivanka and his son-in-law Jared Kushner, U.S. envoy to the Middle East.

Kushner said it was possible for both sides in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict to gain more than give in any peace deal.

“Jerusalem must remain a city that brings people of all faiths together,” he said in a speech.

As the ceremony took place in Jerusalem, Palestinian protests on the Gaza border quickly turned into bloodshed.

https://www.reuters.com/articl...usalem-idUSKCN1IF0M8

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Nehru posted:

Sad Day in the World. Well, you do not expect a JACKASS to know the consequence of his ignorance!!!

Jerusalem is a bargaining chip for peace that may never be. I am concerned about the killing of Palestinian protesters. 

FM

Isreal has been killing Palestinians in great numbers for the past 7 decades with impunity. All with the blessings of the US. But nothing lasts forever. What they are doing now is no less evil than Hitler’s death chambers. Things have a way of switching sides. 

FM
Nehru posted:

THe clueless orange Orangutan and his Family who converted are beyond stupid.

You don't have sympathy for people picknie or what they converted to?

Seriously, I don't think Trump would want to be there personally for security reasons.

FM
Chief posted:

As Buddy Nehru correctly stated it's a sad day for the World. 

Chief, the reality is the Islamic world doesn't care about the Palestinian either. Mahmoud Abbas took secret money from America to keep a low profile. As Yuji would say, money talks and bullshit walks. 

FM

Always blame the victims. Since when protestors are killed for protesting? And to add insult to injury, our stupid government said it is Hamas' fault.

Netanyahu should revisit history. He said that they are in Jerusalem and they are there to stay. He is forgetting that they were there to stay four thousand years ago and then they were chased all over the world.

FM

Lets not forget that they were killed while trying to cross the border by force, culpability is all around. 

Protests on Gaza border turn bloody.

A mass attempt by Palestinians to cross the border fence separating Israel from Gaza turned violent, as Israeli soldiers responded with rifle fire. Monday became the bloodiest day since the campaign of demonstrations began seven weeks ago to protest Israel’s economic blockade of Gaza.

FM

It's never good to watch Isreal backed by the U.S. and shelling at innocent Palestinian protesters. Reality is, we can register our disgust of Isreal's bullyism, but we can't do anything. There are a few countries including Turkey and France who are speaking against this move. This is fresh, but I expect much more happenings in the weeks and months ahead.    

Again, I blame Mahmoud Abbas for not taking a tougher position with Isreal before this happens. He was bought and sold for American $$.

FM
Prince posted:

It's never good to watch Isreal backed by the U.S. and shelling at innocent Palestinian protesters. Reality is, we can register our disgust of Isreal's bullyism, but we can't do anything. There are a few countries including Turkey and France who are speaking against this move. This is fresh, but I expect much more happenings in the weeks and months ahead.    

Again, I blame Mahmoud Abbas for not taking a tougher position with Isreal before this happens. He was bought and sold for American $$.

Come on now fellow. What do you think would happen if thousands of Mexicans try to invade the US carrying weapons etc?  You are only telling half the story. 

By late in the evening, 58 Palestinians, including several teenagers, had been killed and more than 1,350 wounded by gun fire, the Health Ministry said. Israeli soldiers and snipers used barrages of tear gas as well as live gunfire to keep protesters from entering Israeli territory.

The Israeli military said that some in the crowds were planting or hurling explosives, and that many were flying flaming kites into Israel; at least one kite outside the Nahal Oz kibbutz, near Gaza City, ignited a wildfire.

By midafternoon, the protest nearest to Gaza City had turned into a pitched battle — a chaotic panorama of smoke, sirens and tear gas that stretched along the fence. Emergency workers with stretchers carried off a stream of injured protesters, many with leg wounds but some having been shot in the abdomen. A number were teenagers.

FM

I blame the Palestinian leader to let his own people get killed by Isrealis. Abbas is a scam. The peace deal is still to come with or without Jerusalem. Let's watch and see how angry Palestinians will slaughter Mahmoud Abbas for selling out Jerusalem out to Isreal.

FM

The vast majority of the world's population are on the Palestinians' side. Unfortunately the 5 UN members who can veto the will of the vast majority of the world's population for the most part have not been on the side of honesty. Every General Assembly have non-binding votes against Israel's brutality and sadly the US stands with Israel alone in voting on the other side. But nothing lasts forever.

FM
yuji22 posted:

Reeper, how would you feel if someone takes away your land and treats you like an animal ?

That is a different issue. The issue here is why they were killed. I would not get into who is right or wrong about land, so far no one has been able to solve that problem, which is an entirely different debate dating back centuries before any of us were alive.  What I will say is that these Palestinians are extremely brave, fighting the Israelis guns with rocks, sacrificing their lives for what they believe. 

FM

South Africa Withdraws Ambassador in Israel Over Gaza Killings

 Published 14 May 2018
At least 52 Palestinians were killed by Israeli fire as the army unleashed live ammunition at thousands of unarmed protesters across the Gaza-Israel border.
 
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FM
yuji22 posted:

That picture is an eye opener, what is the world doing about it ?

As bad as that picture looks, it doesn't even attempt to describe the ugliness of the Israeli abuse of Palestinians who are not much better off the occupants of Hitler's death camps.

FM
Prince posted:
Chief posted:

As Buddy Nehru correctly stated it's a sad day for the World. 

Chief, the reality is the Islamic world doesn't care about the Palestinian either. Mahmoud Abbas took secret money from America to keep a low profile. As Yuji would say, money talks and bullshit walks. 

That's the tragedy!

The Muslim world has gone blind.

Chief
Prince posted:
Nehru posted:

Sad Day in the World. Well, you do not expect a JACKASS to know the consequence of his ignorance!!!

Jerusalem is a bargaining chip for peace that may never be. I am concerned about the killing of Palestinian protesters. 

He said that they are there to stay. Where do you get the idea that Jerusalem will be a bargaining chip to maybe be given up in a deal. Keep dreaming!

Z
Prince posted:
Chief posted:

As Buddy Nehru correctly stated it's a sad day for the World. 

Chief, the reality is the Islamic world doesn't care about the Palestinian either. Mahmoud Abbas took secret money from America to keep a low profile. As Yuji would say, money talks and bullshit walks. 

Please share your source and info that Abbas took secret money from the US “to keep a low profile”. 

Z
Prince posted:

I blame the Palestinian leader to let his own people get killed by Isrealis. Abbas is a scam. The peace deal is still to come with or without Jerusalem. Let's watch and see how angry Palestinians will slaughter Mahmoud Abbas for selling out Jerusalem out to Isreal.

This is fantasy on your part. The harsh fact is that Israel is the US attack dog in the MIddle East, that Israel knows that it can act with impunity because the US will always support it, that Israel occupies Palestinian land illegally, that Israel is preventing the return of a Palestinians to their homeland, that Israel does not value Palestinian lives, .... and the sad fact is that your eyes, heart and brains are closed to them so you mindlessly support the Israel and try to justify the slaughter of Palestinians.

Z
Zed posted:
Prince posted:

I blame the Palestinian leader to let his own people get killed by Isrealis. Abbas is a scam. The peace deal is still to come with or without Jerusalem. Let's watch and see how angry Palestinians will slaughter Mahmoud Abbas for selling out Jerusalem out to Isreal.

This is fantasy on your part. The harsh fact is that Israel is the US attack dog in the MIddle East, that Israel knows that it can act with impunity because the US will always support it, that Israel occupies Palestinian land illegally, that Israel is preventing the return of a Palestinians to their homeland, that Israel does not value Palestinian lives, .... and the sad fact is that your eyes, heart and brains are closed to them so you mindlessly support the Israel and try to justify the slaughter of Palestinians.

Ouch!!

FM

No doubt there are many leaders in the Middle East who are not worthy of the title of leader. Hamas has been the besieged Palestinians best advocate. Unfortunately some of their methods of resistance are questionable.

FM
yuji22 posted:

The Palestinians had their land taken away from them and are being treated like animals by Israeli forces. The world does not care about the Palestinians. 

What kind of confused Conservative are you? Your Mahatma Trump doesn’t care about Palestinians being slaughtered. That’s just collateral damage in furthering his MAGA agenda. That’s what you signed on for when you crowned him Mahatma.

Mars

Guatemala opens embassy in Jerusalem, two days after U.S. move.

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Guatemala opened an embassy in Jerusalem on Wednesday, two days after the United States inaugurated its new site in the contested city in a move that infuriated Palestinians and drew international condemnation.

Workers hanging from the side of a building place a banner welcoming the opening of the new Guatemalan embassy in Jerusalem, in the complex hosting the new embassy in Jerusalem, May 15, 2018. REUTERS/Ronen Zvulun

Israeli troops shot dead dozens of Palestinian protesters on the Gaza border on Monday when the high-profile opening of the U.S. Embassy to Israel in Jerusalem by the administration of President Donald Trump raised tension to boiling point after weeks of anti-Israeli demonstrations.

Guatemalan President Jimmy Morales and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu attended the embassy’s opening on Wednesday in an office complex in west Jerusalem.

“It’s not a coincidence that Guatemala is opening its embassy in Jerusalem right among the first. You were always among the first. You were the second country to recognize Israel,” Netanyahu said at the ceremony, referring to its founding in 1948.

Morales said his country, Israel and the United States “share friendship, courage, and loyalty”.

Guatemala was one of only a few nations that backed Trump’s decision in December to recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital and is only the second country to move its embassy to the holy city. Paraguay said it will move its embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem by the end of May.

https://www.reuters.com/articl...s-move-idUSKCN1IH0Q7

 

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