https://digitalarchive.wilsonc...t%22%3A%223087%22%7D

Check the link there are more letters and  are in original scan.

Great information to debunk some of the Historians thesis.The other side of the story we weren't told.

https://digitalarchive.wilsonc....org/document/121112

1^st Directorate (Intelligence) Prague, 15 June 1962

č.j.: A/1-00243/21-62 (Top secret)

Minister of the Interior

s. [comrade] Lubomír Štrougal

Re: Jaroslav Mercl – proposal to send him to British Guiana to make a confidential probe

Dear comrade Minister,

On 18 June of this year the four man delegation consisting of staff of our foreign trade enterprises is leaving to British Guiana. Its aim is to establish the first economic and business contacts with the government of British Guiana and British Guiana businesses. This delegation is leaving at the direct request and interest of British Guiana Prime Minister Cheddi Jagan who is for political reasons looking to establish economic collaboration with the countries of the socialist bloc, especially with Czechoslovakia.

Our secret service has a possibility to use the stay of our trade delegation in British Guiana to make a confidential probe of a political character, including the preparation for the opening of diplomatic relations between both countries after British Guiana gains independence which should be in this year.

I suggest, comrade Minister, to send as a part of this delegation a member of the 1^st Directorate of the Ministry of the Interior [foreign intelligence] Jaroslav Mercl, who works at a high position in the foreign trade enterprise OMNIA. He is very experienced because he served in the United States and at the residency [as a secret agent attached to the embassy] in Canada as the trade attaché.

Mercl as a head of the delegation will make a direct contact with British Guiana Prime Minister dr. Jagan and will talk with him about matters that we are interested in. To make a contact, he will use a recommendation letter from Jagan’s close friend Rudolf David who, from the decision of Jagan, currently studies in Czechoslovakia, and our 2^nd department is in touch with him. Rudolf David should be appointed to one of the high government position after British Guiana gains independence and according to Mrs. Jagan, who spoke with him this spring in Prague, he will become minster of education. Rudolf David promised us every help.

We have confirmed Jagan’s interest in holding talks with representatives of Czechoslovakia from [agent] ALONSO – the confidential workmate of the resident [chief agent] in Mexico – whom we sent to British Guiana to meet with dr. Jagan. Jagan even asked Alonso if he has the ability to facilitate such a meeting. The same was confirmed by our resident [chief agent] in Rio de Janeiro KÁJA who made the first probe in British Guiana at the beginning of this year.

A high ranking official of the Cuban secret service told us that the Prime Minister of Cuba Fidel Castro recommended to Mrs. Jagan that she could ask the specific questions [e.g. a request of weapons] with confidence to the Czechoslovakians. Then Castro symbolically gave her a Czechoslovakian pistol.

[The next paragraph notes that the secretariat of the ministry of foreign trade agrees with the idea of sending the delegation and incorporating an agent to this delegation.]

Mercl and the other four members of the delegation will probably leave on 25 June 1962 and will stay abroad from 10 to 15 days. The expenses will be covered by the Ministry of Foreign Trade, we will cover only the expenses of this delegation in British Guiana.

I ask you, comrade Minister, for approval of this proposal

Head of 1^st Directorate of the Ministry of the Interior

On behalf mjr. Pražský

Django posted:

https://digitalarchive.wilsonc...t%22%3A%223087%22%7D

Check the link there are more letters and  are in original scan.

Great information to debunk some of the Historians thesis.The other side of the story we weren't told.

These Commie Clowns on this forum will only tell about the activities of the US/CIA and the British in shaping Guyana's politics. You would think that these events took place in a vacuum if you listen to these fools. They never mention that the PPP was working with the KGB/USSR, Cuba and other countries from the Communist Bloc. Jagan was stupid if he thought that the British would just hand him Guiana for him to then turn it over to the Communists.

p.s. The same scenario played out in many other countries at the height of the Cold War but you'd only hear the one sided views from those who were indoctrinated by "The West on Trial". Today, they're all living in the West and enjoying the fruits that the West has to offer. Bunch of hypocrites.

I have noticed none have shown up,not even my frenno Gilly.

Mars posted:

Django posted:

https://digitalarchive.wilsonc...t%22%3A%223087%22%7D

Check the link there are more letters and  are in original scan.

Great information to debunk some of the Historians thesis.The other side of the story we weren't told.

These Commie Clowns on this forum will only tell about the activities of the US/CIA and the British in shaping Guyana's politics. You would think that these events took place in a vacuum if you listen to these fools. They never mention that the PPP was working with the KGB/USSR, Cuba and other countries from the Communist Bloc. Jagan was stupid if he thought that the British would just hand him Guiana for him to then turn it over to the Communists.

p.s. The same scenario played out in many other countries at the height of the Cold War but you'd only hear the one sided views from those who were indoctrinated by "The West on Trial". Today, they're all living in the West and enjoying the fruits that the West has to offer. Bunch of hypocrites.

Bhai,

there are two sides to a story,some only believed what they are told.

Django posted:

I have noticed none have shown up,not even my frenno Gilly.

You trying to provoke Gilly, comrade?

Those were Cold War days. Declassified US State Department documents show how the CIA operated against the democratically elected PPP government. Jagan asked Kennedy personally for economic aid in 1961. Kennedy rejected his request. Naturally, Jagan had to resort to alternatives. The Czech declassified documents show some details. One of the 2 motorcycles was assigned to PPP organizer Pariag Sukhai of Anna Catherina  WCD.

But admittedly, the communist bloc did not give aid without strings. They had their own geopolitical self-interests. The East were dirty bastards just like the West. Thanks for posting the Czech documents.

Gilbakka posted:

Django posted:

I have noticed none have shown up,not even my frenno Gilly.

You trying to provoke Gilly, comrade?

Those were Cold War days. Declassified US State Department documents show how the CIA operated against the democratically elected PPP government. Jagan asked Kennedy personally for economic aid in 1961. Kennedy rejected his request. Naturally, Jagan had to resort to alternatives. The Czech declassified documents show some details. One of the 2 motorcycles was assigned to PPP organizer Pariag Sukhai of Anna Catherina  WCD.

But admittedly, the communist bloc did not give aid without strings. They had their own geopolitical self-interests. The East were dirty bastards just like the West. Thanks for posting the Czech documents.

Naah no provocation.

Suh the bike "Dada" (Pariag Sukhai) was riding was from the Czech.

He was a good man,great motivation and spirits.

Bai dem PPP Accrebre skallahs dem does only talk how de West bad. All dem rass livin in de West though. Danal even ge he pickney dem Russian name. But dem want de coolie votes...Hey hey hey...

Django posted:

Mars posted:

Django posted:

https://digitalarchive.wilsonc...t%22%3A%223087%22%7D

Check the link there are more letters and  are in original scan.

Great information to debunk some of the Historians thesis.The other side of the story we weren't told.

These Commie Clowns on this forum will only tell about the activities of the US/CIA and the British in shaping Guyana's politics. You would think that these events took place in a vacuum if you listen to these fools. They never mention that the PPP was working with the KGB/USSR, Cuba and other countries from the Communist Bloc. Jagan was stupid if he thought that the British would just hand him Guiana for him to then turn it over to the Communists.

p.s. The same scenario played out in many other countries at the height of the Cold War but you'd only hear the one sided views from those who were indoctrinated by "The West on Trial". Today, they're all living in the West and enjoying the fruits that the West has to offer. Bunch of hypocrites.

Bhai,

there are two sides to a story,some only believed what they are told.

In the 60s, the older folks spoke in hushed tones about these things.  

Leonora posted:

Django posted:

Mars posted:

Django posted:

https://digitalarchive.wilsonc...t%22%3A%223087%22%7D

Check the link there are more letters and  are in original scan.

Great information to debunk some of the Historians thesis.The other side of the story we weren't told.

These Commie Clowns on this forum will only tell about the activities of the US/CIA and the British in shaping Guyana's politics. You would think that these events took place in a vacuum if you listen to these fools. They never mention that the PPP was working with the KGB/USSR, Cuba and other countries from the Communist Bloc. Jagan was stupid if he thought that the British would just hand him Guiana for him to then turn it over to the Communists.

p.s. The same scenario played out in many other countries at the height of the Cold War but you'd only hear the one sided views from those who were indoctrinated by "The West on Trial". Today, they're all living in the West and enjoying the fruits that the West has to offer. Bunch of hypocrites.

Bhai,

there are two sides to a story,some only believed what they are told.

In the 60s, the older folks spoke in hushed tones about these things.  

And due to the threat of communism, many of the affluent ones started to move their wealth out of the country.

Mitwah posted:

And due to the threat of communism, many of the affluent ones started to move their wealth out of the country.

Yes, sir. Some Americans went to Guyana to escape Vietnam; a Nazarene pastor was staying near us, and Mom asked him how to get my big sis to NYC as a student. Mom sent our Rice funds to her to bank in the US; big sis sponsored us; then 6 months later we bought our first house. 

Who thinks Django will ever post the declassified documents showing the PNC being bought for pennies by the CIA and worst???

Mars posted:

Django posted:

https://digitalarchive.wilsonc...t%22%3A%223087%22%7D

Check the link there are more letters and  are in original scan.

Great information to debunk some of the Historians thesis.The other side of the story we weren't told.

These Commie Clowns on this forum will only tell about the activities of the US/CIA and the British in shaping Guyana's politics. You would think that these events took place in a vacuum if you listen to these fools. They never mention that the PPP was working with the KGB/USSR, Cuba and other countries from the Communist Bloc. Jagan was stupid if he thought that the British would just hand him Guiana for him to then turn it over to the Communists.

p.s. The same scenario played out in many other countries at the height of the Cold War but you'd only hear the one sided views from those who were indoctrinated by "The West on Trial". Today, they're all living in the West and enjoying the fruits that the West has to offer. Bunch of hypocrites.

Interesting information.

It goes to show how desperate the PPP was, and incapable of protecting their own supporters, much less being able to establish law and order in the country.

In addition, it shows how deeply Jagan was embedded in the communist cause, thinking that Eastern Europe and Cuba could help him during the height of the Cold War. (Obviously, the PNC was looked on favorably by the US too).

Papa Jagan was a confused politician...he was outfoxed at every move by Burnham...

Leonora posted:

Django posted:

Mars posted:

Django posted:

https://digitalarchive.wilsonc...t%22%3A%223087%22%7D

Check the link there are more letters and  are in original scan.

Great information to debunk some of the Historians thesis.The other side of the story we weren't told.

These Commie Clowns on this forum will only tell about the activities of the US/CIA and the British in shaping Guyana's politics. You would think that these events took place in a vacuum if you listen to these fools. They never mention that the PPP was working with the KGB/USSR, Cuba and other countries from the Communist Bloc. Jagan was stupid if he thought that the British would just hand him Guiana for him to then turn it over to the Communists.

p.s. The same scenario played out in many other countries at the height of the Cold War but you'd only hear the one sided views from those who were indoctrinated by "The West on Trial". Today, they're all living in the West and enjoying the fruits that the West has to offer. Bunch of hypocrites.

Bhai,

there are two sides to a story,some only believed what they are told.

In the 60s, the older folks spoke in hushed tones about these things.  

Dats why they living like refugees in other people country today...they dont want to blame Jagan...

Nehru posted:

Who thinks Django will ever post the declassified documents showing the PNC being bought for pennies by the CIA and worst???

Dat one needs clearance from Congress Place. How come Moses is not being asked questions about this ?

Yuji, for these shameless Monsters to blame THE FATHER OF THE NATION TO SEEK HELP FOR HIS PEOPLE WHEN THE PNC DOGS WERE RAPING, KILLING, BURNING HOUSES AND BUSINESSES OF INDIANS AND OTHER PPP SUPPORTERS THEY ARE BEYOND BEING DOGS AND ARE INDEED INHUMAN PARASITES!!!  One of them call the late, great Dr Jagan desperate for calling for help when his people are being RAPE, KILLED and their possessions Burn /stolen. Are these humans?? NO, wild animals will be classified above them!!!

Nehru posted:

Yuji, for these shameless Monsters to blame THE FATHER OF THE NATION TO SEEK HELP FOR HIS PEOPLE WHEN THE PNC DOGS WERE RAPING, KILLING, BURNING HOUSES AND BUSINESSES OF INDIANS AND OTHER PPP SUPPORTERS THEY ARE BEYOND BEING DOGS AND ARE INDEED INHUMAN PARASITES!!!  One of them call the late, great Dr Jagan desperate for calling for help when his people are being RAPE, KILLED and their possessions Burn /stolen. Are these humans?? NO, wild animals will be classified above them!!!

This was the case when Janet  Jagan was the foreign affairs minister, and they were helpless then....quite understandably...what happen in Wismar was atrocious.

However, how does the PPP explain incidents since then, after independence, when their supporters were left helpless to defend themselves while the big shots like Jagdeo live in his Mansion...such as the protests that takes place at every election under the PPP?

The biggest mystery of all is the PPP cadres walked around idolizing Che and Fidel and Stalin and Lenin...yet, these radical revolutionaries had no answers for removing the Burnham dictatorship for 28 years.

Would Africans allow Indians to do the same to Africans?

Just making an observation...

yuji22 posted:

Nehru posted:

Who thinks Django will ever post the declassified documents showing the PNC being bought for pennies by the CIA and worst???

Dat one needs clearance from Congress Place. How come Moses is not being asked questions about this ?

If you guys have it go ahead and post it. It should be available since as Nehru says that the document was declassified.  It' doesn't need clearance from Congress Place; it's a CIA declassified document.

Leonora posted:

Mitwah posted:

And due to the threat of communism, many of the affluent ones started to move their wealth out of the country.

Yes, sir. Some Americans went to Guyana to escape Vietnam; a Nazarene pastor was staying near us, and Mom asked him how to get my big sis to NYC as a student. Mom sent our Rice funds to her to bank in the US; big sis sponsored us; then 6 months later we bought our first house. 

Money laundering started in Guyana.

For those of you who are are blind to see the other side:

LFS Burnham was a member of the British Communist party.

From inception LFS claimed his party was socialist which dictated that the cooperative sector of the economy will become dominant.  Go read his speeches at the Sophia Declaration. The PNC supported communist forces in Southern Africa including their proxies (Cubans, East Germans, Soviets).  Cuban troops were allowed to re-fuel in Guyana in 1975 during the MPLA crisis. That's how many East German military trucks were left in Guyana for the PNC to use to transport their thugs to breakup PPP meetings.  The PNC was a leftist party all those years.  Dr. Harold Lutchman stated in his writings from the sixties that the PPP and PNC should have been in a coalition since their ideologies were almost the same.  

Billy, dunces like Django will not understand this!!!

Nehru posted:

Who thinks Django will ever post the declassified documents showing the PNC being bought for pennies by the CIA and worst???

Well you can,the declassified information is out there.

Django is not sheeple,he was a kid in those days.I am finding out now what transpired.

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

For those of you who are are blind to see the other side:

LFS Burnham was a member of the British Communist party.

From inception LFS claimed his party was socialist which dictated that the cooperative sector of the economy will become dominant.  Go read his speeches at the Sophia Declaration. The PNC supported communist forces in Southern Africa including their proxies (Cubans, East Germans, Soviets).  Cuban troops were allowed to re-fuel in Guyana in 1975 during the MPLA crisis. That's how many East German military trucks were left in Guyana for the PNC to use to transport their thugs to breakup PPP meetings.  The PNC was a leftist party all those years.  Dr. Harold Lutchman stated in his writings from the sixties that the PPP and PNC should have been in a coalition since their ideologies were almost the same.  

 

No one denies the fact that Burnham was a Commie Knucklehead just like you and Cheddi. You do know that the US and the British were backing Burnham and his coalition with the UF while the USSR and Cuba were supporting the PPP in the 60's, don't you? The US and the British saw Jagan as being more hostile to the West than Burnham and they supported Burnham, the lesser of two evils in their eyes. Jagan was far more open about his hatred of the West than Burnham during the 60's. Jagan was screaming nationalization from the time the British Flag was lowered in 1966. You should know since "The West on Trial" is your Bible. My grandfather used to tell me about you fools marching through the streets of GT in your red shirts chanting Commie songs.

Nehru posted:

Billy, dunces like Django will not understand this!!!

Who you calling dunces,or because you have mouth you can say what you want.

kp posted:

Leonora posted:

Mitwah posted:

And due to the threat of communism, many of the affluent ones started to move their wealth out of the country.

Yes, sir. Some Americans went to Guyana to escape Vietnam; a Nazarene pastor was staying near us, and Mom asked him how to get my big sis to NYC as a student. Mom sent our Rice funds to her to bank in the US; big sis sponsored us; then 6 months later we bought our first house. 

Money laundering started in Guyana.

"Mercl and the other four members of the delegation will probably leave on 25 June 1962 and will stay abroad from 10 to 15 days. The expenses will be covered by the Ministry of Foreign Trade, we will cover only the expenses of this delegation in British Guiana."

How about the above kp

VishMahabir posted:

The biggest mystery of all is the PPP cadres walked around idolizing Che and Fidel and Stalin and Lenin...yet, these radical revolutionaries had no answers for removing the Burnham dictatorship for 28 years.

 

 

They called themselves revolutionaries, idolizing everything Communist. Wearing red shirts, chanting Commie songs, naming their children Vladimir, growing their beards like Lenin. Man, my grandfather used to tell me some stories as a small boy. I used to go and help him in his drug store and get some good laughs. Revolutionaries in their dreams.

Nehru posted:

Yuji, for these shameless Monsters to blame THE FATHER OF THE NATION TO SEEK HELP FOR HIS PEOPLE WHEN THE PNC DOGS WERE RAPING, KILLING, BURNING HOUSES AND BUSINESSES OF INDIANS AND OTHER PPP SUPPORTERS THEY ARE BEYOND BEING DOGS AND ARE INDEED INHUMAN PARASITES!!!  One of them call the late, great Dr Jagan desperate for calling for help when his people are being RAPE, KILLED and their possessions Burn /stolen. Are these humans?? NO, wild animals will be classified above them!!!

Total bullcrap,

give a timeline when those incidents started,and what instigated such.

You are a smart fella.

Mars posted:

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

For those of you who are are blind to see the other side:

LFS Burnham was a member of the British Communist party.

From inception LFS claimed his party was socialist which dictated that the cooperative sector of the economy will become dominant.  Go read his speeches at the Sophia Declaration. The PNC supported communist forces in Southern Africa including their proxies (Cubans, East Germans, Soviets).  Cuban troops were allowed to re-fuel in Guyana in 1975 during the MPLA crisis. That's how many East German military trucks were left in Guyana for the PNC to use to transport their thugs to breakup PPP meetings.  The PNC was a leftist party all those years.  Dr. Harold Lutchman stated in his writings from the sixties that the PPP and PNC should have been in a coalition since their ideologies were almost the same.  

 

No one denies the fact that Burnham was a Commie Knucklehead just like you and Cheddi. You do know that the US and the British were backing Burnham and his coalition with the UF while the USSR and Cuba were supporting the PPP in the 60's, don't you? The US and the British saw Jagan as being more hostile to the West than Burnham and they supported Burnham, the lesser of two evils in their eyes. Jagan was far more open about his hatred of the West than Burnham during the 60's. Jagan was screaming nationalization from the time the British Flag was lowered in 1966. You should know since "The West on Trial" is your Bible. My grandfather used to tell me about you fools marching through the streets of GT in your red shirts chanting Commie songs.

Burnham turned out to be the greater of the two evils. The Americans admitted that afterwards and helped Cheddie get back into office. Bill Clinton paid tribute to Cheddie. Cheddie had his faults. No one denies that, but at heart he was well meaning when it came to helping to uplift all Guyanese. 

http://www.guyana.org/govt/US-...ments-1964-1968.html

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Burnham turned out to be the greater of the two evils. The Americans admitted that afterwards and helped Cheddie get back into office. Bill Clinton paid tribute to Cheddie. Cheddie had his faults. No one denies that, but at heart he was well meaning when it came to helping to uplift all Guyanese. 

The Americans were just exercising some measure of diplomacy towards Cheddi, something Cheddi knew nothing about. That was after they were sure that he was reduced to a subservient poodle and the USSR had fallen. If he understood how to play the game instead of putting y'all stupid Commie ideology over the interests of the country and its people, he might have been President a lot earlier. The country would have gone down the shithole anyway since Cheddi was looking to nationalize foreign interests from the day that Guyana became independent. We know from Guyana's experience and also that of our Western neighbor where Nationalization leads. Imagine a once rich country before Chavez sending its wh0res to wuk in Guyana now.

Mars posted:

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Burnham turned out to be the greater of the two evils. The Americans admitted that afterwards and helped Cheddie get back into office. Bill Clinton paid tribute to Cheddie. Cheddie had his faults. No one denies that, but at heart he was well meaning when it came to helping to uplift all Guyanese. 

The Americans were just exercising some measure of diplomacy towards Cheddi, something Cheddi knew nothing about. That was after they were sure that he was reduced to a subservient poodle and the USSR had fallen. If he understood how to play the game instead of putting y'all stupid Commie ideology over the interests of the country and its people, he might have been President a lot earlier. The country would have gone down the shithole anyway since Cheddi was looking to nationalize foreign interests from the day that Guyana became independent. We know from Guyana's experience and also that of our Western neighbor where Nationalization leads. Imagine a once rich country before Chavez sending its wh0res to wuk in Guyana now.

You must be one of them who subscribed to socialism and now pretending be a lover of western capitalism after implosion of the Soviet Union.  I will give you an example of a political commentators who was crazy about Marxism and is now brazenly acting as if he was Guyana's Joseph McCarthy.  Freddie Kissoon, a newspaper columnist, worked for the Bishop government in Grenada.  He went there because of his firm believe in Marxism/Lenism.  Today he is writing and behaving like a notorious Indian bitch pretending to be a pure virgin. 

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Mars posted:

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Burnham turned out to be the greater of the two evils. The Americans admitted that afterwards and helped Cheddie get back into office. Bill Clinton paid tribute to Cheddie. Cheddie had his faults. No one denies that, but at heart he was well meaning when it came to helping to uplift all Guyanese. 

The Americans were just exercising some measure of diplomacy towards Cheddi, something Cheddi knew nothing about. That was after they were sure that he was reduced to a subservient poodle and the USSR had fallen. If he understood how to play the game instead of putting y'all stupid Commie ideology over the interests of the country and its people, he might have been President a lot earlier. The country would have gone down the shithole anyway since Cheddi was looking to nationalize foreign interests from the day that Guyana became independent. We know from Guyana's experience and also that of our Western neighbor where Nationalization leads. Imagine a once rich country before Chavez sending its wh0res to wuk in Guyana now.

You must be one of them who subscribed to socialism and now pretending be a lover of western capitalism after implosion of the Soviet Union.  I will give you an example of a political commentators who was crazy about Marxism and is now brazenly acting as if he was Guyana's Joseph McCarthy.  Freddie Kissoon, a newspaper columnist, worked for the Bishop government in Grenada.  He went there because of his firm believe in Marxism/Lenism.  Today he is writing and behaving like a notorious Indian bitch pretending to be a pure virgin. 

My family had business interests in Guyana going back for close to 100 years that I know about. Selling every and anything except drugs and pvssy. During August Holidays from school, I used to go down to my grandfather's drug store and help him. My grandfather was a staunch anti-Communist and he schooled me on you clowns from an early age. You have the wrong person if you think I was ever associated with any of you Commie Knuckleheads.

Mars posted:

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Mars posted:

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Burnham turned out to be the greater of the two evils. The Americans admitted that afterwards and helped Cheddie get back into office. Bill Clinton paid tribute to Cheddie. Cheddie had his faults. No one denies that, but at heart he was well meaning when it came to helping to uplift all Guyanese. 

The Americans were just exercising some measure of diplomacy towards Cheddi, something Cheddi knew nothing about. That was after they were sure that he was reduced to a subservient poodle and the USSR had fallen. If he understood how to play the game instead of putting y'all stupid Commie ideology over the interests of the country and its people, he might have been President a lot earlier. The country would have gone down the shithole anyway since Cheddi was looking to nationalize foreign interests from the day that Guyana became independent. We know from Guyana's experience and also that of our Western neighbor where Nationalization leads. Imagine a once rich country before Chavez sending its wh0res to wuk in Guyana now.

You must be one of them who subscribed to socialism and now pretending be a lover of western capitalism after implosion of the Soviet Union.  I will give you an example of a political commentators who was crazy about Marxism and is now brazenly acting as if he was Guyana's Joseph McCarthy.  Freddie Kissoon, a newspaper columnist, worked for the Bishop government in Grenada.  He went there because of his firm believe in Marxism/Lenism.  Today he is writing and behaving like a notorious Indian bitch pretending to be a pure virgin. 

My family had business interests in Guyana going back for close to 100 years that I know about. Selling every and anything except drugs and pvssy. During August Holidays from school, I used to go down to my grandfather's drug store and help him. My grandfather was a staunch anti-Communist and he schooled me on you clowns from an early age. You have the wrong person if you think I was ever associated with any of you Commie Knuckleheads.

If this true why you are running behind the PNC whose comrades wore beards like Castro in the seventies and eighties?

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Mars posted:

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Mars posted:

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Burnham turned out to be the greater of the two evils. The Americans admitted that afterwards and helped Cheddie get back into office. Bill Clinton paid tribute to Cheddie. Cheddie had his faults. No one denies that, but at heart he was well meaning when it came to helping to uplift all Guyanese. 

The Americans were just exercising some measure of diplomacy towards Cheddi, something Cheddi knew nothing about. That was after they were sure that he was reduced to a subservient poodle and the USSR had fallen. If he understood how to play the game instead of putting y'all stupid Commie ideology over the interests of the country and its people, he might have been President a lot earlier. The country would have gone down the shithole anyway since Cheddi was looking to nationalize foreign interests from the day that Guyana became independent. We know from Guyana's experience and also that of our Western neighbor where Nationalization leads. Imagine a once rich country before Chavez sending its wh0res to wuk in Guyana now.

You must be one of them who subscribed to socialism and now pretending be a lover of western capitalism after implosion of the Soviet Union.  I will give you an example of a political commentators who was crazy about Marxism and is now brazenly acting as if he was Guyana's Joseph McCarthy.  Freddie Kissoon, a newspaper columnist, worked for the Bishop government in Grenada.  He went there because of his firm believe in Marxism/Lenism.  Today he is writing and behaving like a notorious Indian bitch pretending to be a pure virgin. 

My family had business interests in Guyana going back for close to 100 years that I know about. Selling every and anything except drugs and pvssy. During August Holidays from school, I used to go down to my grandfather's drug store and help him. My grandfather was a staunch anti-Communist and he schooled me on you clowns from an early age. You have the wrong person if you think I was ever associated with any of you Commie Knuckleheads.

If this true why are running behind the PNC whose comrades wore beards like Castro in the seventies and eighties?

Again, you have the wrong person. I don't run behind any political party or person in Guyana and I've never had a beard or a moustache. I merely come on GNI and write. It keeps my mind sharp and dulls the effect of the lies that you propagandists try to spread.

Mars posted:

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Mars posted:

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Mars posted:

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Burnham turned out to be the greater of the two evils. The Americans admitted that afterwards and helped Cheddie get back into office. Bill Clinton paid tribute to Cheddie. Cheddie had his faults. No one denies that, but at heart he was well meaning when it came to helping to uplift all Guyanese. 

The Americans were just exercising some measure of diplomacy towards Cheddi, something Cheddi knew nothing about. That was after they were sure that he was reduced to a subservient poodle and the USSR had fallen. If he understood how to play the game instead of putting y'all stupid Commie ideology over the interests of the country and its people, he might have been President a lot earlier. The country would have gone down the shithole anyway since Cheddi was looking to nationalize foreign interests from the day that Guyana became independent. We know from Guyana's experience and also that of our Western neighbor where Nationalization leads. Imagine a once rich country before Chavez sending its wh0res to wuk in Guyana now.

You must be one of them who subscribed to socialism and now pretending be a lover of western capitalism after implosion of the Soviet Union.  I will give you an example of a political commentators who was crazy about Marxism and is now brazenly acting as if he was Guyana's Joseph McCarthy.  Freddie Kissoon, a newspaper columnist, worked for the Bishop government in Grenada.  He went there because of his firm believe in Marxism/Lenism.  Today he is writing and behaving like a notorious Indian bitch pretending to be a pure virgin. 

My family had business interests in Guyana going back for close to 100 years that I know about. Selling every and anything except drugs and pvssy. During August Holidays from school, I used to go down to my grandfather's drug store and help him. My grandfather was a staunch anti-Communist and he schooled me on you clowns from an early age. You have the wrong person if you think I was ever associated with any of you Commie Knuckleheads.

If this true why are running behind the PNC whose comrades wore beards like Castro in the seventies and eighties?

Again, you have the wrong person. I don't run behind any political party or person in Guyana and I've never had a beard or a moustache. I merely come on GNI and write. It keeps my mind sharp and dulls the effect of the lies that you propagandists try to spread.

Well, I am not affiliated with any political party, but I do care about the country of my birth and its people. I would love to see all parties respect the rights of the people and allow the system to work the way it should work. Political interference in  GECOM has only one aim - that is to rig elections and deny the Guyanese people of their right to choose. I will speak out against this no matter what.  No amount of evidence of the PPP's ideological links with the East would deter me from speaking out. 

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Well, I am not affiliated with any political party, but I do care about the country of my birth and its people. I would love to see all parties respect the rights of the people and allow the system to work the way it should work. Political interference in  GECOM has only one aim - that is to rig elections and deny the Guyanese people of their right to choose. I will speak out against this no matter what.  No amount of evidence of the PPP's ideological links with the East would deter me from speaking out. 

Oh Please!!! You were one of those who the PPP used to bus down from the country to march through GT singing Commie songs in your red shirt.

Did you speak out when the PPP rigged the elections against Balram Singh Rai? Did you speak out when the PPP stole a seat from the AFC? Did you speak out when the PPP took a shit on democracy by delaying local government elections? You must have been a bit hoarse from the flu.

Mars posted:

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Mars posted:

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Burnham turned out to be the greater of the two evils. The Americans admitted that afterwards and helped Cheddie get back into office. Bill Clinton paid tribute to Cheddie. Cheddie had his faults. No one denies that, but at heart he was well meaning when it came to helping to uplift all Guyanese. 

The Americans were just exercising some measure of diplomacy towards Cheddi, something Cheddi knew nothing about. That was after they were sure that he was reduced to a subservient poodle and the USSR had fallen. If he understood how to play the game instead of putting y'all stupid Commie ideology over the interests of the country and its people, he might have been President a lot earlier. The country would have gone down the shithole anyway since Cheddi was looking to nationalize foreign interests from the day that Guyana became independent. We know from Guyana's experience and also that of our Western neighbor where Nationalization leads. Imagine a once rich country before Chavez sending its wh0res to wuk in Guyana now.

You must be one of them who subscribed to socialism and now pretending be a lover of western capitalism after implosion of the Soviet Union.  I will give you an example of a political commentators who was crazy about Marxism and is now brazenly acting as if he was Guyana's Joseph McCarthy.  Freddie Kissoon, a newspaper columnist, worked for the Bishop government in Grenada.  He went there because of his firm believe in Marxism/Lenism.  Today he is writing and behaving like a notorious Indian bitch pretending to be a pure virgin. 

My family had business interests in Guyana going back for close to 100 years that I know about. Selling every and anything except drugs and pvssy. During August Holidays from school, I used to go down to my grandfather's drug store and help him. My grandfather was a staunch anti-Communist and he schooled me on you clowns from an early age. You have the wrong person if you think I was ever associated with any of you Commie Knuckleheads.

Was he prejudiced in his schooling to you. U come accross as a mixed putagee. I know this Gravesande guy, worked along side him at Blairmont. Man, dat chap hated cooolie ppl, he would say whatever was on his mind as if Indians were igorant of his english words.

Maybe, he believed they were still speaking Bhojpuri.

He was a carpenter, responsible for building scaffolds. I told his Black Foreman that I would not go up a scaffold that he built for me. His hate could turn to murder. 

The Foreman did not disagree. He was quiet. But Gravesande never made a scaffold for me since that day.

Strange enough, his sons and daugthers were in class with me. We were always cordial. 

I attended high school in Guyana and students of all races got along very well.

It was only during election time that political differences were noticed.

Things went back to normal after Burnham took his majority landslide victories and the army took over the ballot boxes. 

Imagine Burnham had landslide victories in Berbice. Old people used to laugh at the election results.

The younger generation is getting back a taste of the PNC. 

seignet posted:

 

Was he prejudiced in his schooling to you. U come accross as a mixed putagee. I know this Gravesande guy, worked along side him at Blairmont. Man, dat chap hated cooolie ppl, he would say whatever was on his mind as if Indians were igorant of his english words.

Maybe, he believed they were still speaking Bhojpuri.

He was a carpenter, responsible for building scaffolds. I told his Black Foreman that I would not go up a scaffold that he built for me. His hate could turn to murder. 

The Foreman did not disagree. He was quiet. But Gravesande never made a scaffold for me since that day.

Strange enough, his sons and daugthers were in class with me. We were always cordial. 

 

That guy was probably Dutch.

Mars posted:

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Well, I am not affiliated with any political party, but I do care about the country of my birth and its people. I would love to see all parties respect the rights of the people and allow the system to work the way it should work. Political interference in  GECOM has only one aim - that is to rig elections and deny the Guyanese people of their right to choose. I will speak out against this no matter what.  No amount of evidence of the PPP's ideological links with the East would deter me from speaking out. 

Oh Please!!! You were one of those who the PPP used to bus down from the country to march through GT singing Commie songs in your red shirt.

Did you speak out when the PPP rigged the elections against Balram Singh Rai? Did you speak out when the PPP stole a seat from the AFC? Did you speak out when the PPP took a shit on democracy by delaying local government elections? You must have been a bit hoarse from the flu.

Na, Billy is a young dude who left Guyana in his early teens. 

Mars posted:

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

For those of you who are are blind to see the other side:

LFS Burnham was a member of the British Communist party.

From inception LFS claimed his party was socialist which dictated that the cooperative sector of the economy will become dominant.  Go read his speeches at the Sophia Declaration. The PNC supported communist forces in Southern Africa including their proxies (Cubans, East Germans, Soviets).  Cuban troops were allowed to re-fuel in Guyana in 1975 during the MPLA crisis. That's how many East German military trucks were left in Guyana for the PNC to use to transport their thugs to breakup PPP meetings.  The PNC was a leftist party all those years.  Dr. Harold Lutchman stated in his writings from the sixties that the PPP and PNC should have been in a coalition since their ideologies were almost the same.  

 

No one denies the fact that Burnham was a Commie Knucklehead just like you and Cheddi. You do know that the US and the British were backing Burnham and his coalition with the UF while the USSR and Cuba were supporting the PPP in the 60's, don't you? The US and the British saw Jagan as being more hostile to the West than Burnham and they supported Burnham, the lesser of two evils in their eyes. Jagan was far more open about his hatred of the West than Burnham during the 60's. Jagan was screaming nationalization from the time the British Flag was lowered in 1966. You should know since "The West on Trial" is your Bible. My grandfather used to tell me about you fools marching through the streets of GT in your red shirts chanting Commie songs.

Yo Martian...I am de only one allowed to use the word "knucklehead" here...

Leonora posted:

Mars posted:

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Well, I am not affiliated with any political party, but I do care about the country of my birth and its people. I would love to see all parties respect the rights of the people and allow the system to work the way it should work. Political interference in  GECOM has only one aim - that is to rig elections and deny the Guyanese people of their right to choose. I will speak out against this no matter what.  No amount of evidence of the PPP's ideological links with the East would deter me from speaking out. 

Oh Please!!! You were one of those who the PPP used to bus down from the country to march through GT singing Commie songs in your red shirt.

Did you speak out when the PPP rigged the elections against Balram Singh Rai? Did you speak out when the PPP stole a seat from the AFC? Did you speak out when the PPP took a shit on democracy by delaying local government elections? You must have been a bit hoarse from the flu.

Na, Billy is a young dude who left Guyana in his early teens. 

I was a teen in the early fifties Ms. Lenora. 

Billy Ram Balgobin posted:

Leonora posted:

Na, Billy is a young dude who left Guyana in his early teens. 

I was a teen in the early fifties Ms. Lenora. 

Uncle,Mr.Billy Ram Balgobin,you are up there,i was born in the middle year of the early 50's,

Kudos to you.

Well my expectations you should gave us the true narrative of the conflicts in the homeland,me thinks you are coming a little short.No hard feelings we are finding out.