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kp posted:

. The PNC had 31/2 years to clean up the voters list, just tell me what have they been doing all this time, filling Ballot boxes for 2020. Boy, is your own people exposed the slackness and figures, so read what James McAllister wrote, when you were in prep school I was at UG.

After 28 years of Burnham dictatorship, the PPP had 23 years to clean up the list! Never happened, suh now they telling idiots like you that 120K people dead in 3 years. And the idiot you are, you believe it.

My sympathies that you were at UG and not afforded an undergraduate and graduate education in North America. Might explain why you are so patently IGNORANT and pedestrian in your thinking!

FM

Look at this smelly reptile.

The PNC could not even build a toilet much less clean up the voters list. Those dead men who voted for them has now backfired on the smelly PNC. 

PNC couldn’t even build a toilet in four years. How can the people expect them to have a clean voters list ?

Look how PNC are running from court to court like whimps ! Jagdeo buss their balls and rubbed pepper !

FM
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The title of th is thread debases t he seriousness of the fraud being foisted on us here. For  the list to have 120K dead people on it means we have been compiling dead for over 3 elections cycle without any rehab work being don. We know that is bollox since it was deemed intact for the 2011 when it was completely rehabilitated. Alexander considers himself a bit of a statistician so he should know this amount of error in the system is pure fabrication. At most it can have around 25K or so.

FM

I want to see a free and fair election and there should be no doubts whatsoever about the accuracy of the list so if that number is accurate then we need a new list for the next election. The next election will be a well fought and close one so both parties need to have a clean list. It would be interesting to see if GECOM reports on whether some of those people actually voted !

FM
D2 posted:

The title of th is thread debases t he seriousness of the fraud being foisted on us here. For  the list to have 120K dead people on it means we have been compiling dead for over 3 elections cycle without any rehab work being don. We know that is bollox since it was deemed intact for the 2011 when it was completely rehabilitated. Alexander considers himself a bit of a statistician so he should know this amount of error in the system is pure fabrication. At most it can have around 25K or so.

So Gecom didn’t do their jobs. 

FM
Dave posted:
D2 posted:

The title of th is thread debases t he seriousness of the fraud being foisted on us here. For  the list to have 120K dead people on it means we have been compiling dead for over 3 elections cycle without any rehab work being don. We know that is bollox since it was deemed intact for the 2011 when it was completely rehabilitated. Alexander considers himself a bit of a statistician so he should know this amount of error in the system is pure fabrication. At most it can have around 25K or so.

So Gecom didn’t do their jobs. 

The current list is adequate. GECOM is trying to delay the election to give the PNC time to consolidate their strategy. 

FM
D2 posted:
Dave posted:
D2 posted:

The title of th is thread debases t he seriousness of the fraud being foisted on us here. For  the list to have 120K dead people on it means we have been compiling dead for over 3 elections cycle without any rehab work being don. We know that is bollox since it was deemed intact for the 2011 when it was completely rehabilitated. Alexander considers himself a bit of a statistician so he should know this amount of error in the system is pure fabrication. At most it can have around 25K or so.

So Gecom didn’t do their jobs. 

The current list is adequate. GECOM is trying to delay the election to give the PNC time to consolidate their strategy. 

Ok . 

FM

That list also contains all the people who have legally migrated and those who have overstayed their visas in NA. PNC trying to get lucky. These frigging people are a curse to democracy in Guyana.

FM
D2 posted:

 Alexander considers himself a bit of a statistician

huh . . . what is the basis for this childishness?

do you know ANYTHING about the man's qualifications?

what are yours?

FM
skeldon_man posted:

That list also contains all the people who have legally migrated and those who have overstayed their visas in NA. PNC trying to get lucky. These frigging people are a curse to democracy in Guyana.

"lucky" . . . huh??

how exactly is purging the rolls of these non-residents not enhancing "democracy" in Guyana?

FM
D2 posted:

The current list is adequate. 

"adequate" for what, sir?

you do understand that Guyana has less than 800,000 people, right?

this is not a 10,000,000 voters roll with plenty cushion against fraud

25,000, or even 10,000 illegal votes under these circumstances is a scandal that cannot be called "democracy"

FM
ronan posted:
D2 posted:

The current list is adequate. 

"adequate" for what, sir?

you do understand that Guyana has less than 800,000 people, right?

this is not a 10,000,000 voters roll with plenty cushion against fraud

25,000, or even 10,000 illegal votes under these circumstances is a scandal that cannot be called "democracy"

Snowie a see all dem old bais like McAllister back in de delay tatic. Dem bais remind me of 1998. Hey hey hey...

FM
ronan posted:
D2 posted:

The current list is adequate. 

"adequate" for what, sir?

you do understand that Guyana has less than 800,000 people, right?

this is not a 10,000,000 voters roll with plenty cushion against fraud

25,000, or even 10,000 illegal votes under these circumstances is a scandal that cannot be called "democracy"

A simple solution, let the 120K people who dead bring dem death certificate before they are allowed to vote. 

FM
ronan posted:
skeldon_man posted:

That list also contains all the people who have legally migrated and those who have overstayed their visas in NA. PNC trying to get lucky. These frigging people are a curse to democracy in Guyana.

"lucky" . . . huh??

how exactly is purging the rolls of these non-residents not enhancing "democracy" in Guyana?

PNCdemocracy is an oxymoron.

FM
ronan posted:
D2 posted:

The current list is adequate. 

"adequate" for what, sir?

you do understand that Guyana has less than 800,000 people, right?

this is not a 10,000,000 voters roll with plenty cushion against fraud

25,000, or even 10,000 illegal votes under these circumstances is a scandal that cannot be called "democracy"

Dead people cannot come to the precinct to vote. A bloated list as this represent the incompetence of GECOM. They are tasked to guarantee elections within 90 days. Running a elimination program with matching names from lists of the dead reported by the various collectors of such data should be a perfunctory activity. House to House check is designed to look for the living. If proper purging is on going the happenstance of meeting a home where a dead person is registered is minimal.

FM
ronan posted:
D2 posted:

 Alexander considers himself a bit of a statistician

huh . . . what is the basis for this childishness?

do you know ANYTHING about the man's qualifications?

what are yours?

He does....I do know his qualifications. His posturing on this point  is political and one does not have possess a substantial vitae for such activity.

FM
D2 posted:
ronan posted:
D2 posted:

The current list is adequate. 

"adequate" for what, sir?

you do understand that Guyana has less than 800,000 people, right?

this is not a 10,000,000 voters roll with plenty cushion against fraud

25,000, or even 10,000 illegal votes under these circumstances is a scandal that cannot be called "democracy"

Dead people cannot come to the precinct to vote. A bloated list as this represent the incompetence of GECOM. They are tasked to guarantee elections within 90 days. Running a elimination program with matching names from lists of the dead reported by the various collectors of such data should be a perfunctory activity. House to House check is designed to look for the living. If proper purging is on going the happenstance of meeting a home where a dead person is registered is minimal.

i have no time to waste running around in circles marking up what is essentially nonsense built on your contempt for and alienation from those currently sitting in Gov't

this is mostly about people who have migrated

James McAllister, cited at the top of the thread, already covered your shakeabatty

try to read

McAllister: "“There must be some sinister agenda by those clamoring for elections without house-to-house registration,” he began. “The 2012 Census recorded a population of 746,955. Of this, 39 per cent was less than 18. Using census figures from 1980, 1991, 2001, and 2012, I forecasted that the population in 2015 was approximately 745,600. Assuming that 39 per cent is below 18, then approximately 454,816 were over 18 and eligible to vote in 2015. Yet we had a votes list with 583,444 names. That is a whopping 128,600 plus dead or nonexistent persons.”

McAllister noted that this represents and overstating of the voting population on the recently used list by over 28 per cent. He added: “And this is assuming a 100 per cent registration of all eligible electors. If 90 per cent registration is assumed then the list was bloated by over 42 per cent. A list as flawed as this provided great opportunity for fraud and corruption.”

Presenting additional information to support the position, McAllister highlighted that the Guyana Elections Commission (GECOM) had declared a 71.26 per cent voter turnout for the 2015 elections.

However, he noted that looking at the current census figures and assuming a 90 per cent registration rate, the actually voter turnout was 102 per cent which represents more voters than people.
He added that even if one were to assume a 100 per cent registration rate which his highly improbable, the voter turnout in 2015 would then be 91 per cent, still a highly improbable turnout.

Another example he gave was that a large number of polling places where the Peoples Progressive Party/Civic (PPP/C) received the majority votes, the turnout is computed at more than 120 per cent.

“Even if we assume a 100 per cent, this scenario points to a high incidence of substitute voting. This is when someone impersonates an elector and votes in his or her place. It’s quite possible that the present voters list is bloated by as much as 35 per cent. Anyone suggesting going to elections with such a list has a sinister agenda. The PPP claim that such a list could be cleansed is just a plain joke. There must be house-to-house registration before elections in 2020,” McAllister concluded."

FM
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