Reply to "Relgion and Ego"

ksazma posted:
cain posted:

It is also said Jesus died for our sins...he failed by the look of things.

Whether religious or not no one is responsible for anyone else's actions. We are all responsible for our own actions. If you don't study, you will not pass the class. Similarly if you don't get up and go do your work, it wouldn't get done. History has shown that Jesus couldn't even save himself when he had life, how is he going to save others now that he is dead? These are very basic things to understand yet Sagga bai can't grasp it. Meanwhile, bro. Keith is content with posting sermons as he displays a willful intent to block all reasonable discussions from his agenda.

First of all, Jesus (God) is not dead, He's alive!!.

Ksazma I see you are displaying your incompetence. If you don't know what you are talking about just keep quiet allow someone else with knowledge explain it to you don't try to make yourself look foolish day after day. Come on it's overbearing.

I get lengthy in my response...oops sorry sermon because I want folks to understand clearly the subject being discuss. Therefore I used scriptures from the Bible to support my point of view. With that said, I cannot let foolish questions of the likes mention highlighted in bold letter above slip by. So lets examine why Jesus had to dies or Why He didn't save himself?

We must first understand when asked a question such as this, one must be careful he/she is not calling God into question. To wonder why God couldn’t find another way to do something is to imply that the way He has chosen is not the best course of action and that some other method would be better. Usually what we perceive as a better method is one that seems right to us. Before we can come to grips with anything God does, we have to first acknowledge that His ways are not our ways, His thoughts are not our thoughts they are higher than ours (Isaiah 55:8). In addition, Deuteronomy 32:4 reminds us that "He is the Rock, his works are perfect, and all his ways are just. A faithful God who does no wrong, upright and just is he." Therefore, the plan of salvation He has designed is perfect, just, and upright, and no one could have come up with anything better.

 The Scripture says, "For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures", 1 Corinthians 15:3-4. Evidence affirms that the sinless Jesus bled and died on a cross. Most importantly, the Bible explains why Jesus’ death and resurrection provide the only entrance to heaven.

Sin punishment is death: God created earth and man perfect. But when Adam and Eve disobeyed God’s commands, He had to punish them. A judge who pardons law-breakers isn’t a righteous judge. Likewise, overlooking sin would make the holy God unjust. Death is God’s just consequence for sin. Romans 6:23 says, "For the wages of sin is death". Even good works cannot make up for wrongs against the holy God. Compared to His goodness, "All our righteousnesses are as filthy rags", Isaiah 64:6b. Ever since Adam’s sin, every human has been guilty of disobeying God’s righteous laws. "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God", Romans 3:23. Sin is not just big things like murder or blasphemy, but also includes love of money, hatred of enemies, and deceit of tongue and pride. Because of sin, everyone has deserved death  eternal separation from God in hell.

The promise required an innocent death: Although God banished Adam and Eve from the garden, He didn’t leave them without hope of reconciliation. He promised He would send a Savior to defeat the serpent, if you read, Genesis 3:15.Until then, men would sacrifice innocent lambs, showing their repentance from sin and faith in the future Sacrifice from God who would bear their penalty. God reaffirmed His promise of the Sacrifice with men such as Abraham and Moses. Herein lies the beauty of God’s perfect plan: God Himself provided the only sacrifice (Jesus) who could atone for the sins of His people. God’s perfect Son fulfilled God’s perfect requirement of God’s perfect law. "God made Him (Christ), who knew no sin, to be sin for us that we might become the righteousness of God in Him", 2 Corinthians 5:21.

Did not The prophets foretold Jesus’ death?: From Adam to Jesus, God sent prophets to mankind, warning them of sin’s punishment and foretelling the coming Messiah. One prophet, Isaiah, described Him:

Isaiah 53

Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed?

For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.

He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.

He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.

And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.

10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.

11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

He likened the coming Sacrifice to a lamb, slaughtered for the sins of others.

Hundreds of years later, Isaiah’s prophecy was fulfilled in the perfect Lord Jesus, born of the virgin Mary. When the prophet John the Baptist saw Him, he cried, "Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!", John 1:29. Crowds thronged Him for healing and teaching, but the religious leaders scorned Him. Mobs cried out, "Crucify Him!" Soldiers beat, mocked, and crucified Him. As Isaiah foretold, Jesus was crucified in between two criminals but was buried in a rich man’s tomb. But He didn’t remain in the grave. Because God accepted His Lamb’s sacrifice, He fulfilled another prophecy by raising Jesus from the dead, Psalm 16:10; Isaiah 26:19.

Why did Jesus have to die?: Remember, the holy God cannot let sin go unpunished. To bear our own sins would be to suffer God’s judgment in the flames of hell. Praise God, He kept His promise to send and sacrifice the perfect Lamb to bear the sins of those who trust in Him. Jesus had to die because He is the only one who can pay the penalty for our sins.