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Mitwah posted:
skeldon_man posted:
Mitwah posted:

Stays. He’s not an absentee parent, since He will never leave or forsake us (Deut. 31:8).

Did Jesus not rebuked his father for forsaking him? And at the ninth hour, Jesus shouted in a loud voice, "Eloi Eloi lama sabachthani?" which is translated, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"

If God is our father then who is out mother? 

And where is heaven?

Biblical students do not think outside the box. The Bible for them is all they need. They see no hidden interpretation of what's written. They copy and paste well with some highlighting skills. It is said that Jesus lost faith in God.

He was a bad example as a father to his daughter. He was even rude to his mother.

In Matthew 27:45-46, it says, "Now from the sixth-hour darkness fell upon all the land until the ninth hour. verse 46: And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?" that is, "My God, My God, why have you forsaken Me?" If Jesus is God, why would He say this?

First of all, Jesus quoted Psalm 22:1 which begins with, "My God, My God, why have you forsaken Me?" Jesus quoted this Psalm in order to draw attention to it and the fact that He was fulfilling it there on the cross. Consider verses 11-18 in Psalm 22:

"11: Be not far from me, for trouble is near; For there is none to help.
12:  Many bulls have surrounded me; Strong bulls of Bashan have encircled me. 
13:  They open wide their mouth at me,  As a ravening and a roaring lion.  14: I am poured out like water,  And all my bones are out of joint; My heart is like wax;  It is melted within me. 
15: My strength is dried up like a potsherd, And my tongue cleaves to my jaws;  And Thou dost lay me in the dust of death.
16: For dogs have surrounded me; A band of evildoers has encompassed me; They pierced my hands and my feet.
17: I can count all my bones. They look, they stare at me;
18: They divide my garments among them, And for my clothing they cast lots.
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The term 'dogs' as I explained in previous comments was used by the Jews to refer to Gentiles (non-Jews), read Matthew. 15:21-28. His heart has melted within Him (verse 14). During the crucifixion process, the blood loss causes the heart to beat harder and harder and become extremely fatigued. Dehydration occurs (verse 15). Verses 16-18 speak of piercing His hands and feet and dividing His clothing by casting lots. This is exactly what happened as described in Matthew. 27:35.

Psalm 22 was written about 1,000 years before Christ was born. At that time, crucifixion had not yet been invented. Actually, the Phoenicians developed it, and Rome borrowed the agonizing means of execution from them. So, when Rome ruled over Israel, it became the Roman means of capital punishment imposed upon the Jews whose biblical means of execution was stoning. Nevertheless, Jesus is pointing to the scriptures to substantiate His messianic mission.

In 2nd Corinthians. 5:21 says, "He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him." It is possible that at some moment on the cross when Jesus became sin on our behalf, that God the Father, in a sense, turned His back upon the Son. It says in Habakkuk. 1:13 that God is too pure to look upon evil. Therefore, it is possible that when Jesus bore our sins in His body on the cross (1 Peter. 2:24), that the Father, spiritually, turned away. At that time, the Son may have cried out.

One thing is for sure. We have no capacity to appreciate the utterly horrific experience of having the sins of the world put upon the Lord Jesus as He hung in excruciating pain from that cross. The physical pain was immense. The spiritual one must have been even greater.

That shows us clearly how much God loves us.


Questions: "If God is our father then who is our mother?"
Answer: Regardless of the gender assigned to any deity, God has made it clear that He is the only True God, Creator of Heaven and Earth. “There is none besides me. I am the LORD, and there is no other” (Isaiah 45:6). There is no mother god.

Questions: "And where is heaven?"
Answer: Heaven is most certainly a real place. The Bible very definitely speaks of heaven’s existence and access to heaven through faith in Jesus Christ but there are no verses that give us a geographical location. The short answer to this question is, "heaven is where God is." The place referred to in this question is called the "third heaven" and "paradise" in 2 Corinthians 12:1-4, where the apostle Paul tells of a living man who was "caught up" to heaven and was unable to describe it. The Greek word translated "caught up" is also used in 1 Thessalonians 4:17 in describing the rapture, wherein believers will be caught up to be with the Lord.

Other verses indicating heaven to be "above the earth" are numerous. At the Tower of Babel, God says, "Come, let us go down" (Genesis 11:7) Heaven is described as "high above the earth" in Psalm 103:11, and the place from which the Lord "looks down" in Psalm 14:2. Jesus is described as having "ascended into heaven" and "descended from heaven" in John 3:13 (ESV). In Acts 1:9–11 Jesus is described as being taken "up" into heaven, and when God takes John to heaven in Revelation 4:1, He says, "Come up here." These passages have led to the conclusion that heaven is beyond the earth’s airspace and beyond the stars.

Keith
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