Keith posted:ksazma posted:Keith posted:So the new question I am asking of ksazma to tell us is:
Was Ishmael there in Abraham presence when God instructed him to, "take thy only son"?
Folks as you can see it's a simple yes/no answer I need from my friend ksazma.
That's a stupid question dude. I am surprised you are taking so much pride in asking it. People don't stop being someone's child just because they live in a different place. Ishmael was still alive when Isaac was born and even when Isaac was around the age when Abraham tried to sacrifice his ONLY son. The only time Abraham had an ONLY son was before Isaac was born.
Are you really listening to yourself when you are typing/speaking? As /I said your ignorance is appalling. I didn't say Ishmael was not Abraham child nor have I ever denied it.
What I'm asking you is simple. So far we have establish that Abraham had two sons, Ishmael the older son, Hagar being his mother and Isaac the younger son, Sarai being his mother, do you understand so far? Then we read Sarai had Abraham sent away her handmaid Hagar and son, do you recall that, did they leave or stayed? So if we were to take a census after Hagar and Ishmael departure we would find only Abraham, Sarai and their son Isaac.
Now I'm asking the question again, when God spoke to Abraham, "take thy only son", Where was Ishmael and Hagar? Were they currently present in Abraham household when God spoke to Abraham.This very simple reasoning is displaying vacuous on your part. Keep it up and might end up in a straight jacket, those white ones.
Nothing has changed from my last post. Your question is still stupid. At no time was Isaac Abraham's ONLY son. Only Ishmael was Abraham's ONLY son before Isaac was born. I don't play stupid games answering stupid questions. Keep that stupidness for when you are in your church.