Keith posted:ksazma posted:skeldon_man posted:Ksaz, like I told Keith, the bible has deeper meaning than what Christians believe. These dudes like zombies swallow the writings like hook, line and sinker. They read but do not analyze and comprehend. That's the reason the followers are so shallow. Bible colleges are the easiest to obtain a diploma. All they need to do is to recite the passages word for word.
Skelly, it is just interested that they are always criticizing other peoples' beliefs when there is nothing so special or better about theirs. My sole objective was to demonstrate that to Keith.
You are such a hypocrite. Before you open your mouth or put your hands on a keyboard to type check yourself brother. Again you failed to take that speck out of your own eyes and now you throwing stones at a glass building. I need you to find where I, I'm not talking about other people, criticized your belief. When you finish count the number of criticisms I've been attack here with due to my belief.
As for your apprentice no need to respond to that misguided fellow, his own folly will drown him.
Lets see where I entered this topic. You began it on October 16th 2016 and it was not until your post on December 15, 2016, that I offered my opinion on THAT post. Two months of uninterrupted activity on any message board is a lifetime. Below in my post from that day. Your post crossed the line from Christian belief to global reprimand of anyone who does not accept Jesus the way you did. My response was to show why I don't care to see Jesus as you do and I proceeded to highlight his record from the Bible to support my argument. There is not one reference that I made from the Bible that you can say I manufactured. You may disagree with my conclusions but you cannot say that I said the Bible state something that it didn't.
Secondly, why are you asking about if you ever criticized any other person's belief? Are you hoping to by asking me about the Qur'an? I prefer to keep this on the topic you chose instead of expanding it to other topics. If I begin a topic to pontificate about the Qur'an for instance, you would be more than welcome to make your objections. I haven't done so nor do I care to at this time but you can still hope that I do some day.
And there you go again calling Skelly a misguided person who will drown in his own folly. And how do you know that he isn't the guided one and the rest of us including you and I aren't the misguided ones? See how easy it is for you to fall into that ditch you think is for someone else?
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Jesus Christ Is Lord
Followers of Jesus would agree that whether we live or die, we do so for Christ. But His sovereignty is not limited to those who claim Him as King. The entire world—the whole universe, in fact—is subject to His authority. At the final judgment, every knee will bow and every tongue will confess and praise God.
In the here and now, relatively few people recognize the Lord’s rule and seek to remain in His will. Most refuse to see that all of our human constructs—such as government, culture, and society—thrive or falter in the palm of God’s hand. Moreover, nonbelievers resist Christ’s sovereignty in their own lives. People who won’t surrender their will to the Lord’s great purpose assume control of their own destiny. However, the Lord’s supreme reign cannot be thwarted.
It’s common for men and women today to believe that there are no consequences for rejecting the lordship of Jesus Christ. You may have heard people say things like, “That Christian stuff works for you, but it’s not for me. I’ll live on my own terms.” Yet Jesus’ parable of houses built on either solid rock or sand offers a different perspective (Matt. 7:24-27). Only those who make their abode in the Lord can withstand the upheavals of this world.
Kneeling before Jesus Christ as the Lord of your life is the wisest decision you can make. The sovereign Ruler of the universe loves you and desires to bless all of your days. Make your eternal home in the safety of His kingdom, and forever delight in Him.
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ksazma posted:
Suppose that all of this is just make believe? Suppose that what people say of Jesus and what he actually was are two completely different realities? No doubt believers of Jesus will point to what others wrote of Jesus to support their belief. However, if one realistically take the very limited events, words and actions of Jesus as documented in the New Testament free from blind faith, one will come to a different conclusion.
To begin with, Jesus was no king. He was born to an unmarried woman in a barn and does not even know his father. He grew up in the working class with barely any measurable accomplishments. He hanged out with a bunch of other guys who made him feel important but he was not even acknowledged as a leader of the church and had no meaningful role in the church of his peers.
But that was not all. He was also rude, obnoxious and prejudiced as shown in the manner of how he referred to people who were not Jewish of or his inner circle. Names like dogs, pigs, swine, wicked and adulterous people to name a few. He constantly whined about the comforts that others had while he had nothing of his own. If you weren't Jewish, you were not worthy of his acknowledgement. He was even rude and disrespectful to his own mother who bore him through pregnancy and childbirth regardless of her getting pregnant and not disclosing who got her pregnant.
Now this all may sound harsh but they will make sense once one is willing and able to remove the blinders of faith for no matter how much lipstick one put on a pig, it is still a pig. And if Jesus had no problem calling others pigs, none should be concerned that I use the pig reference here.