Keith posted:ksazma posted:Keith posted:ksazma posted:Keith posted:Where have I not address your questions?
I asked for your thoughts not what the Bible states. Lets do them again.
4. While on the cross, Jesus is heard asking God why He forsook him? Two questions. Didn't Jesus have enough faith and trust in God to know that God would not forsake him and secondly wasn't Jesus supposed to already know about how things will go on the cross and shouldn't have been so surprised or unprepared?
Answer: "My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?" This cry is a fulfillment of Psalm 22:1, one of many parallels between that psalm and the specific events of the crucifixion. It is difficult to understand in what sense Jesus was "forsaken" by God. It is certain that God approved His work.
Jesus quoted this Psalm 22:1 in order to draw attention to it and the fact that He was fulfilling it there on the cross. In your spare time read the Psalms 22:11-18.
Your quote: "Jesus supposed to already know about how things will go on the cross"
The gospels contain an account of the time the disciples and Jesus spent in the Garden of Gethsemane, just before Jesus was arrested. In the garden Jesus prayed to his Father three times, saying, "My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will" In Matthew 26:39 says, "Let this cup pass from me". A little later, Jesus prays, "My Father, if it is not possible for this cup to be taken away unless I drink it, may your will be done" (Matthew 26:42). These prayers reveal Jesus’ mindset just before the crucifixion and His total submission to the will of God.
What cup you might ask am I talking about. The "cup" to which Jesus refers is the suffering He was about to endure. It’s as if Jesus were being handed a cup full of bitterness with the expectation that He drink all of it. Jesus had used the same metaphor in Matthew 20:22 when prophesying of the future suffering of James and John. When Jesus petitions the Father, "Let this cup pass from me," He expresses the natural human desire to avoid pain and suffering. In a nutshell nothing was a surprise to Jesus.
So Jesus has to ask God why He has forsaken him just because of Psalm 22? Wasn't Jesus God enough to understand that while man may lose faith and trust in God, he as God couldn't do the same? Why does the God of the Bible insist on doing things that make no sense?
Secondly, Jesus was quite pissed when his disciples failed to watch the garden thereby causing him to be caught. He wasn't preparing to give up his life. He was hoping to hide out in that garden until his pursuers go away. What kind of God feel physical pain and loses faith in his Creator? Imagine he wondering if he will get caught or not when he was supposed to already know that he will be caught and hung on the cross.
Answer: You lack understanding of what you care not to read. I will not wast time on this again.
It may disappoint you but I don't lack understanding of what I read at all. What I do have is the unwillingness to follow anything blindly. Any God with the imperfections and deficiencies and plain old silliness of Jesus isn't worth one's time or effort.