Keith posted:ksazma posted:cain posted:
Im reading all of this and find some very informative pieces. One in particular which I would like more info on is that of the Fig tree. That thing makes all knowing Bro' Jesu seem quite a dummy.
A few things to consider here.
Firstly, Jesus is supposedly God and also hungry. Christians don't believe in a hungry God but the preachers make the exception for Jesus because they say he is different. Christian preachers demean Hindus for their beliefs and worships but when you point out that the story of Jesus and his life on earth is similar, they say Jesus is different.
Answer: I don't know what you are talking about here so I will not say much on this subject. But here is a different for you I don't have to build and shape into an image to worship the thing I just built.....that's call idol worship. I worship the God that eternal, immortal and invisible, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. The God that have not failed me yet. He's been my provider and healer a present help in time of need, try Him sometime you wouldn't be disappointed.
I am not talking about God dude. I am talking about Jesus. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is NOT Jesus. You don't have any proof that God exist either. All you feel is what you feel, not what is fact.
Secondly, he say a fig tree in the distance and was happy to see it since he was hungry. But when he got to the tree, he was disappointed because there were no fruits on the tree. Why was there no fruits on the tree? Because it was not the season for fruits to be on that tree. One would expect that God would know it is fig season or not. A little kid in Guyana can tell you if it is mango season or not in Guyana.
Answer: In Mark 11:12–14, 20–21. Jesus did not explain why He cursed the fig tree, but a little knowledge about fig trees, combined with the circumstances described in the scriptures, helps us to understand the symbolism of what Jesus did. The kind of a fig tree mentioned in Mark 11 produces an early fig, even before it is full with leaves. The main crop of figs comes later. If a tree produces no early figs, it will produce no fruit at all that year. A tree with leaves (as both Mark and Matthew described it) should also have fruit, but that tree was barren. We could say that the tree gave the appearance of having fruit but actually had none. That is like the Jewish leaders of Jesus’ day. They appeared righteous, but theirs was a hypocritical and empty righteousness. Consequently, Jesus cursed this tree of hypocrisy that symbolized the condition of the leaders of God’s covenant people.
Jesus used this incident to teach His disciples and even us today that the outward appearance does not count with God. Instead, what really counts is whether or not one produces godly fruit in his or her life (John 15:8, 16; Galatians 5:22-23).
It clearly stated in the passage that the time was not YET. Not EVER. Also, trees have leaves all the time while they don't have fruits all the time clearly evident by this particular tree. If your argument now is that since it had no early figs, therefore it will have no figs that year, why curse the tree for eternity which is what Jesus did when he got pissed off. If it was barren as you tries another angle to get around your conundrum why does Jesus waste cursing a tree that is already barren. Jesus would be described in Guyana as a lungera because all he did is walk around for three years wasting time.
Thirdly, this is the part that gets the least bit of attention. We learn everyday of the importance of positive attitude. How does Jesus respond to his own silly assumption that there would be figs on the tree? He got pissed off and cursed the tree. Imagine that of all the possible responses that Gentle Jesus could have had, he chose getting pissed off and cursing a tree which has done nothing wrong since it is nature that determines the seasons not the trees. My man Keith would like you to accept Jesus poor response to his silly assumption as righteous indignation. Why? Because Jesus is different.
Answer: Read the above answer and you will see the lesson that was being taught that you missed.
Now you read my response above where I point out that your response is unacceptable. Jesus showed terrible judgment and attitude. He screwed up with his silly assumption and instead of just saying "my bad, I messed up" he belligerently cursed a tree. What would he have done if it was a dog? Kick it?
Please read and understand what you are reading. Take care all have a blessed weekend. Love you all brothers.
Fortunately reading is not the problem. It is the nonsense that pastors are hoping to slip by unsuspecting people. Like seeking to pass off a sermon as "just a thought".