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Reply to "None of us who were born in Guyana are ‘Indians’ or ‘Africans’- Charles Sugrim"

caribny posted:
Zed posted:.

What are the universals of Afro Caribbean creole culture, for this uneducated old man? This seems convoluted to me. So for those of us who have lived many years in Canada, are we now viewed as having Canadian Afro Caribbean creole culture. .

I am unaware that any one defined you (if you are Indo Caribbean) as being Afro Caribbean.

I am fully aware that white Canadians are extremely aware of what Afro Caribbean culture is.  They have no problem in identifying their culture (mainly evolving out of the British Isles) and seeing it as distinct from  that which they see from immigrants from the Caribbean.

An Indian looking at an Indo Caribbean person will also be fully aware of the differences that exist between these two groups of Indian derived peoples. In fact they even have separate terminologies for people born in North America of DIRECT Indian parentage (NRI) from those whose connections to India are more distant, and whose cultures have imbued so many other influences that it is now only tangentially Indian. 

That India of Modi has no space for "Hindus" who eat beef roti without even thinking of it.  Or who can be seen frequenting Pizza Hut and not being concerned that pork products aren't segregated from other food items.

How many Indo Guyanese can fluently speak any language of India.  And I mean daily conversations covering a full gamut of topics.

And my understanding of Canadian identity is that it recognizes cultural, religious and ethnic diversity but that does NOT take away from being a Canadian. So some one whose grandparents came from Guyana is a Canadian first and whatever ethnic identity they select second.

Your long winded answer did not answer the question. 

One if the problems I have is your view that East indians are clannish but you have not defined what you see them doing that you determine to be clannish.

additionally, you attribute to a a whole group what you perceive some part of it to be, if you are correct. Furthermore, you talk about some amalgam of culture in the cultural milieu  that is Guyana as if it is a given and universally accepted within that cultural melieu. Furthermore, you seem to be posing the idea that East Indians in Guyana are being a threat to other communities or cultures in Guyana because they practice key elements of their culture and tradition. You see, to think that it takes away from being part of Guyana or being a Guyanese. 

I am surprised that you get away with your assertions here. Had I the time, I would challenge most of what you have posted on this thread.

got to go.

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