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No complaint of threats …Justice Holder gives reason for leaving bench.

Attorney General, Basil Williams

March 28, 2017 Source

-writes chancellor on High Court incident

JUSTICE Franklin Holder said he left the bench last week Thursday during the Carvil Duncan trial because of an alleged statement made by Attorney General, Basil Williams, which is: “I could say what I want to say and however I want to say it, I have always been like that.”
“Immediately after hearing these words, I rose from the Bench and went into my Chambers. I did not adjourn the matter, nor did I give any instructions to the parties,” Justice Holder mentioned in a letter of complaint addressed to Chancellor of the Judiciary (ag), Yonette Cummings-Edwards, which was seen by this newspaper.
His letter made no mention of any “threat”, and although he referenced Williams’ statement about a dead magistrate, Justice Holder made no specific complaint about it nor did he describe it as a threat.

People’s Progressive Party MP, Anil Nandlall had made the allegations that Williams had threatened to kill the judge- a claim which Williams has denied. During a news conference last Friday Williams in detailing what transpired said that he was cross-examining Duncan, who is being represented by Nandlall, and the latter kept interrupting the court. Williams, SC said that when the Judge announced that he was about to adjourn the matter, he (Williams) made a request to ask a final question, which he was permitted to do. The AG said that after he had asked his final question to the confidential secretary of Duncan, since she was the one being cross-examined, he thanked her and proceeded to his seat.

Ex abundanti cautela

He then stated that: “When I was about to sit, I saw the Judge was about to leave and I said ex abundanti cautela; out of excessive caution could I enquire the answer ‘no’ was recorded. The Judge, to my surprise said, Mr. Williams you’re not in-charge of my court.” The AG related that the Judge then said that he interprets what Williams said to mean that he (the Judge) did not record a previous answer given by the witness, and that he (the Judge) takes great umbrage to that.

Justice Franklin Holder

Williams, SC said he then shared an experience which happened years ago, where a magistrate presiding over a matter he was involved in had interpreted something he said, differently. He said that since then he has been “particular” about what he says in court and “incidentally, that magistrate is dead now”.
He noted that after this, he continued his conversation with Justice Holder, after which Nandlall “jumped in as though he was under the influence of something” and the Judge left the benches. The AG said that his view is that the Judge had intended to leave but he (Williams) had detained him by asking another question. He said that no date was given by the Judge for a continuation of the hearing, as he has the option of sending notices to counsel about new dates.
Judy Stuart- Adonis, Senior Legal Advisor, who was in court during the incident, in a statement seen by this newspaper said the AG was insistent in the inconsistencies of the witness being recorded, after which he subsequently referenced a former Magistrate, who also misconstrued him and that Magistrate is now deceased, meaning he/she is no longer a sitting Magistrate. Esther Sam, Principal Legal Adviser at the AG chambers also gave a similar account.

Meanwhile, in light of the accusations against him that he threatened to kill the judge, the AG on Friday had warned that he will take legal actions against the media houses that repeated the allegations by Nandlall. “I practiced law for 33 years and no allegations have been made against me in the practice of my profession. Newspapers have come out and I shall be taking actions against those newspapers” he told reporters.
The AG said that he will be taking actions because several weeks ago he warned that it was no longer “free day” on his name, as he would not permit anyone to filch his “good name”.
“I have never done acts of corruption” AG Williams maintained.
He went on to state that the accusation by Nandlall, who is a former AG, “reeks of crass disrespect” and is an “assault on the government,” since he (Williams) is a government minister. “I gave warning. I am not going to allow people to attack me and my office. It is an assault on the government. We have to ensure people’s reputation are protected” the AG said, confirming that legal actions will also be taken against Nandlall.

 

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Freedom house is no match for the APNU/AFC Government,they don't know Politics,one running around the country like a headless chicken,another one "creating mischief" holding daily press conferences where he is lecturing 95% of the time,what use less bunch resides there.

They are the new "Indian Savior"

smh

Django
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Whattax! We now await the arrival of those PPP Nemakaraks..Filthy shit heads..Snake oil salesmen...Slopcan carriers...Tea drinkers...Soup drinkers...Dog Shytes...Belly Wuk...Stale bread...Cake shop guys..etc for their take on the matter. (Hope I left no one out)

cain
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QUOTE: 'JUSTICE Franklin Holder said he left the bench last week Thursday during the Carvil Duncan trial because of an alleged statement made by Attorney General, Basil Williams, which is: “I could say what I want to say and however I want to say it, I have always been like that.”
“Immediately after hearing these words, I rose from the Bench and went into my Chambers. I did not adjourn the matter, nor did I give any instructions to the parties,” Justice Holder mentioned in a letter of complaint addressed to Chancellor of the Judiciary (ag), Yonette Cummings-Edwards, which was seen by this newspaper.'

Threat or no threat, Basil Williams' declaration in court was out of order. It caused Judge Holder to walk out and complain to the Chancellor. Django's headline about "Mischief Maker Anil Nandlall" is uncalled for.

FM

Gill,

There is no doubt AG,Basil Williams SC "was out of order" in court,he should be penalized.

The two honorable gentlemen former AG,A.Nandalall and current AG,B.Williams are at each others throat for a while,Mr.Nanadalall heard the word "Magistrate dead"and construed it was a threat to the honorable Justice Holder.

The same day Anil posted on his face book page Williams made"death threat" to Justice Holder,some of the media picked it up and published the next day,I made a post on GNI that day,the rest is known from press conferences held by both gentleman.

Anil wants to score cheap political points in a mischievous way,

"Mischief Maker Anil Nandlall" stands.

Django
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Basil Williams is a ■ peg in a O hole. His performance as AG has been marked by one blunder after another. President Granger could do with a competent replacement for that nincompoop.

FM
Gilbakka posted:

Basil Williams is a ■ peg in a O hole. His performance as AG has been marked by one blunder after another. President Granger could do with a competent replacement for that nincompoop.

Totally agreed!

Django
Django posted:

Freedom house is no match for the APNU/AFC Government,they don't know Politics,one running around the country like a headless chicken,another one "creating mischief" holding daily press conferences where he is lecturing 95% of the time,what use less bunch resides there.

They are the new "Indian Savior"

smh

So if Basil Williams is "holier than thou" why did Justice Holder get up and walk out of the Chambers?

Bibi Haniffa
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Django posted:

Freedom house is no match for the APNU/AFC Government,they don't know Politics,one running around the country like a headless chicken,another one "creating mischief" holding daily press conferences where he is lecturing 95% of the time,what use less bunch resides there.

They are the new "Indian Savior"

smh

So if Basil Williams is "holier than thou" why did Justice Holder get up and walk out of the Chambers?

Read my post about Basil Williams.

Django
Django posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Django posted:

Freedom house is no match for the APNU/AFC Government,they don't know Politics,one running around the country like a headless chicken,another one "creating mischief" holding daily press conferences where he is lecturing 95% of the time,what use less bunch resides there.

They are the new "Indian Savior"

smh

So if Basil Williams is "holier than thou" why did Justice Holder get up and walk out of the Chambers?

Read my post about Basil Williams.

I read the subject of this thread!!

Bibi Haniffa

It does look like a threat as it was unnecessary to bring up that the magistrate is now dead. Lawyers always mean to say everything they say. There is no context for bringing up that the magistrate is now dead.

FM
Django posted:

Freedom house is no match for the APNU/AFC Government,they don't know Politics,one running around the country like a headless chicken,another one "creating mischief" holding daily press conferences where he is lecturing 95% of the time,what use less bunch resides there.

They are the new "Indian Savior"

smh

Django, it is obvious that there is more to this story. Williams also lied.  In his interview, Williams did not indicate that he told the justice that he could say what he wants where he wants. He portrayed himself as the epitome of legal propriety.

I guess we, including me, have to be careful checking the authenticity of what is said in the media. This is a item from the chronicle, so I suspect that there is some spin to it also. 

Z
Django posted:

Freedom house is no match for the APNU/AFC Government,they don't know Politics,one running around the country like a headless chicken,another one "creating mischief" holding daily press conferences where he is lecturing 95% of the time,what use less bunch resides there.

They are the new "Indian Savior"

smh

Django, it is obvious that there is more to this story. Williams also lied.  In his interview, Williams did not indicate that he told the justice that he could say what he wants where he wants. He portrayed himself as the epitome of legal propriety.

I guess we, including me, have to be careful checking the authenticity of what is said in the media. This is a item from the chronicle, so I suspect that there is some spin to it also. 

Z

Look at this saga in colour, Justice Holder is a dam Blackman, after a phone call from maybe Harmon,or Granger he change his story, so the next day what do you expect him to say.Either way he was  threatened but as a PNC he had to take their side and the Attorney General is the BOSS.

K
Gilbakka posted:

QUOTE: 'JUSTICE Franklin Holder said he left the bench last week Thursday during the Carvil Duncan trial because of an alleged statement made by Attorney General, Basil Williams, which is: “I could say what I want to say and however I want to say it, I have always been like that.”
“Immediately after hearing these words, I rose from the Bench and went into my Chambers. I did not adjourn the matter, nor did I give any instructions to the parties,” Justice Holder mentioned in a letter of complaint addressed to Chancellor of the Judiciary (ag), Yonette Cummings-Edwards, which was seen by this newspaper.'

Threat or no threat, Basil Williams' declaration in court was out of order. It caused Judge Holder to walk out and complain to the Chancellor. Django's headline about "Mischief Maker Anil Nandlall" is uncalled for.

Django is out of order.

FM
kp posted:

Look at this saga in colour, Justice Holder is a dam Blackman, after a phone call from maybe Harmon,or Granger he change his story, so the next day what do you expect him to say.Either way he was  threatened but as a PNC he had to take their side and the Attorney General is the BOSS.

Ha ha ha was waiting for such response,

Blackman fuh Blackman,

Collieman fuh Collieman.

When will it ends ???

Django
yuji22 posted:
Gilbakka posted:

QUOTE: 'JUSTICE Franklin Holder said he left the bench last week Thursday during the Carvil Duncan trial because of an alleged statement made by Attorney General, Basil Williams, which is: “I could say what I want to say and however I want to say it, I have always been like that.”
“Immediately after hearing these words, I rose from the Bench and went into my Chambers. I did not adjourn the matter, nor did I give any instructions to the parties,” Justice Holder mentioned in a letter of complaint addressed to Chancellor of the Judiciary (ag), Yonette Cummings-Edwards, which was seen by this newspaper.'

Threat or no threat, Basil Williams' declaration in court was out of order. It caused Judge Holder to walk out and complain to the Chancellor. Django's headline about "Mischief Maker Anil Nandlall" is uncalled for.

Django is out of order.

Present your case to prove I am out of order,instead of piggybacking on some one comments.

Read my response to his post.

Django

Judiciary to pronounce on AG’s encounter with judge – acting Chancellor.

Source

Justice Franklin Holder has given a statement pertaining to the conduct of Attorney-General Basil Williams SC in his courtroom last week, according to acting Chancellor Yonette Cummings-Edwards, who yesterday said that the judiciary would pronounce on the issue soon.

“I am in receipt of information in relation to that matter and the matter is currently being address-ed,” Justice Cummings-Edwards told reporters shortly after her swearing-in yesterday.

“An official report will be given to the press as soon everything is completed… within a matter of days,” she added.

The now acting Chancellor explained that she was briefed on the matter in her capacity as acting Chief Justice.

All of the judges of the Supreme Court attended a meeting last Friday morning for about half an hour but no statement was made.

Stabroek News was told that the Williams issue was discussed and it was following this meeting that a unanimous decision was taken to write to President David Granger on the matter.

The Attorney General was accused by his predecessor, attorney Anil Nandlall, of threatening Justice Holder last Thursday, during a hearing involving suspended Chairman of the Public Service Commission Carvil Duncan.

But Williams denied that he threatened the judge and announced that he would take legal action over the claim and reportage on it. He specifically said that his lawyers were preparing to write letters to the two newspapers that published the allegations without speaking to him.

Observers have, however, noted that even in his own rendering of the events of the day in question, Williams’ words did not comport with what was expected from the Attorney General, Minister of Legal Affairs and the Leader of the Bar.

Williams told a press conference on Friday that when Justice Holder indicated that he was going to adjourn the matter, he asked whether he could be permitted to ask Duncan’s confidential secretary one final question.

He was permitted to do so. According to Williams, after noticing that the judge was about to leave the bench, he enquired whether the answer to the last question was recorded. “The judge to my surprise said, ‘Mr Williams you are not in charge of my court.’ And I said, ‘No sir’ …but the judge then said to me ‘Mr Williams I interpret what you are saying to mean that I deliberately did not record the answer that was given by the witness previously and I take great umbrage at that.’ And I said, ‘Sir, surely that is not on your record, because I never said anything to that effect or intended anything like that,’” he explained.

Williams recalled that he told the judge that his comments reminded him of a similar allegation made against him by a magistrate several years ago.

“He [the magistrate] cited me for contempt and the rest is history. And I said that since then I have always been very particular about what I say to the courts and to be precise so that nothing else like that could return and I said coincidentally that magistrate is dead now and I moved on,” he said.

Nandlall said the judge subsequently left the bench without adjourning the proceedings or setting a date for continuation.

Django
Zed posted:

Also, your jubilation expressed in your post finally gives lie to your frequent statements that you do not support the coalition.

How about you ?,Your declaration of not supporting any Party in Guyana is like "throwing water in basket"

I can presume you are "Bharat Jagdeo" closet supporter.

I see the APNU/AFC as the lesser evil than the PPP under Bharat Jagdeo to govern Guyana,if you assume that is support so be it.

Stick to alyuh "Apaan Jaat"

read my response to kp.

Django
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Django posted:
Zed posted:

Also, your jubilation expressed in your post finally gives lie to your frequent statements that you do not support the coalition.

How about you ?,Your declaration of not supporting any Party in Guyana is like "throwing water in basket"

I can presume you are "Bharat Jagdeo" closet supporter.

I see the APNU/AFC as the lesser evil than the PPP under Bharat Jagdeo to govern Guyana,if you assume that is support so be it.

Stick to alyuh "Apaan Jaat"

read my response to kp.

Your response is laughable and is what I expect from little boys when they get into trouble - 'I did it and he did it too.' Your presumption exists in the false reality you have helped to create in youy cognitive structure. This is not about Jagdeo or your acceptance of the PNC/AFC an 'evil', albeit  lesser one than the PPP under Jagdeo. It is about the failure to mention that Basil William's story is not entirely true also and the orgasmic pleasure you displayed in your post.

I have declared my position regarding my non support for any political party and have been asking posters to prove what they say is true, which is fact based argument. You do not see me posting newspaper articles condemning or supporting any political party, quite unlike you. I do not think that I have started more than 5 posts, if my memory serves me correct. I would have thought that you who is the subject of many personal attack on this board would want a movement to fact based arguments.

Your statement about "alyuh Apaan Jaat" is logically puerile. Setting up a paper tiger so you can shoot it down! I dare you to show one post that I have made to indicate that I am a racist, support Jagdeo or supported Apaan Jaat. If you cannot, then I demand an apology!

Z
Django posted: I see the APNU/AFC as the lesser evil than the PPP under Bharat Jagdeo to govern Guyana,if you assume that is support so be it.
 

This implies support for APNU+AFC. Also, the editorializing titles of your threads clearly show your bias against the PPP. So be it, as you say.

I am striving towards an independent outlook. This means that I reserve the right to lash both APNU+AFC and PPP on some of their actions. I shall let readers judge whether I am succeeding. Their feedback, positive or negative, will be received with respect and appreciation. 

FM
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Zed posted:
Django posted:
Zed posted:

Also, your jubilation expressed in your post finally gives lie to your frequent statements that you do not support the coalition.

How about you ?,Your declaration of not supporting any Party in Guyana is like "throwing water in basket"

I can presume you are "Bharat Jagdeo" closet supporter.

I see the APNU/AFC as the lesser evil than the PPP under Bharat Jagdeo to govern Guyana,if you assume that is support so be it.

Stick to alyuh "Apaan Jaat"

read my response to kp.

Your response is laughable and is what I expect from little boys when they get into trouble - 'I did it and he did it too.' Your presumption exists in the false reality you have helped to create in youy cognitive structure. This is not about Jagdeo or your acceptance of the PNC/AFC an 'evil', albeit  lesser one than the PPP under Jagdeo. It is about the failure to mention that Basil William's story is not entirely true also and the orgasmic pleasure you displayed in your post.

I have declared my position regarding my non support for any political party and have been asking posters to prove what they say is true, which is fact based argument. You do not see me posting newspaper articles condemning or supporting any political party, quite unlike you. I do not think that I have started more than 5 posts, if my memory serves me correct. I would have thought that you who is the subject of many personal attack on this board would want a movement to fact based arguments.

Your statement about "alyuh Apaan Jaat" is logically puerile. Setting up a paper tiger so you can shoot it down! I dare you to show one post that I have made to indicate that I am a racist, support Jagdeo or supported Apaan Jaat. If you cannot, then I demand an apology!

Zed posted:

Also, your jubilation expressed in your post finally gives lie to your frequent statements that you do not support the coalition.

Trying to wiggle out,from your statement, take a deep look what you are insinuating,you also seem to pick and choose,there are two threads posted about Williams,both I have condemn his actions.

By the way who stop you from creating fact based threads??

I never knew the "Fifth Estate" are dissallowed from using materials from the "Fourth Estate" for discussions,or for that matter present their view for discussion.

Sometimes "Facts" stares us,to accept is like "finding a needle in hay stack"

Django
Django posted:
kp posted:

Look at this saga in colour, Justice Holder is a dam Blackman, after a phone call from maybe Harmon,or Granger he change his story, so the next day what do you expect him to say.Either way he was  threatened but as a PNC he had to take their side and the Attorney General is the BOSS.

Ha ha ha was waiting for such response,

Blackman fuh Blackman,

Collieman fuh Collieman.

When will it ends ???

In your case Coolie man for Blackman. Nandalall should sue you for defaming his name .you are the mischief maker .PNC will defend you and pay your legal expenses.  You like many in the past is using this forum to seek attention  showcase your talent  by supporting the PNC and hope to get a job.  You can fool some of us but you can't fool all of us.

K

This is like when J.O.F. Haynes claimed he lost his memory about the rigging of the 1973 elections. This brilliant lawyer recanted his statements and then claimed he cannot remember anything. LFS put the pressure up his ass and he recanted his story.

Billy Ram Balgobin

Judiciary to pronounce on AG’s encounter with judge – acting Chancellor

By
 

Justice Franklin Holder has given a statement pertaining to the conduct of Attorney-General Basil Williams SC in his courtroom last week, according to acting Chancellor Yonette Cummings-Edwards, who yesterday said that the judiciary would pronounce on the issue soon.

“I am in receipt of information in relation to that matter and the matter is currently being address-ed,” Justice Cummings-Edwards told reporters shortly after her swearing-in yesterday.

“An official report will be given to the press as soon everything is completed… within a matter of days,” she added.

The now acting Chancellor explained that she was briefed on the matter in her capacity as acting Chief Justice.…to continue

WHY THE FUSS, DJANGO HAS ALL THE ANSWERS.

K
kp posted:
Django posted:
kp posted:

Look at this saga in colour, Justice Holder is a dam Blackman, after a phone call from maybe Harmon,or Granger he change his story, so the next day what do you expect him to say.Either way he was  threatened but as a PNC he had to take their side and the Attorney General is the BOSS.

Ha ha ha was waiting for such response,

Blackman fuh Blackman,

Collieman fuh Collieman.

When will it ends ???

In your case Coolie man for Blackman. Nandalall should sue you for defaming his name .you are the mischief maker .PNC will defend you and pay your legal expenses.  You like many in the past is using this forum to seek attention  showcase your talent  by supporting the PNC and hope to get a job.  You can fool some of us but you can't fool all of us.

Nandall can sue if he wants,let him bring it on,i will not need a Lawyer to defend my self.Our courts are not the kangaroo type you will find in third world countries.

Why would I want a job,a few months away i will be 64,and plan to chill.

Django
kp posted:

Judiciary to pronounce on AG’s encounter with judge – acting Chancellor

By
 

Justice Franklin Holder has given a statement pertaining to the conduct of Attorney-General Basil Williams SC in his courtroom last week, according to acting Chancellor Yonette Cummings-Edwards, who yesterday said that the judiciary would pronounce on the issue soon.

“I am in receipt of information in relation to that matter and the matter is currently being address-ed,” Justice Cummings-Edwards told reporters shortly after her swearing-in yesterday.

“An official report will be given to the press as soon everything is completed… within a matter of days,” she added.

The now acting Chancellor explained that she was briefed on the matter in her capacity as acting Chief Justice.…to continue

WHY THE FUSS, DJANGO HAS ALL THE ANSWERS.

Judiciary to pronounce on AG’s encounter with judge – acting Chancellor.

Source

Justice Franklin Holder has given a statement pertaining to the conduct of Attorney-General Basil Williams SC in his courtroom last week, according to acting Chancellor Yonette Cummings-Edwards, who yesterday said that the judiciary would pronounce on the issue soon.

“I am in receipt of information in relation to that matter and the matter is currently being address-ed,” Justice Cummings-Edwards told reporters shortly after her swearing-in yesterday.

“An official report will be given to the press as soon everything is completed… within a matter of days,” she added.

The now acting Chancellor explained that she was briefed on the matter in her capacity as acting Chief Justice.

All of the judges of the Supreme Court attended a meeting last Friday morning for about half an hour but no statement was made.

Stabroek News was told that the Williams issue was discussed and it was following this meeting that a unanimous decision was taken to write to President David Granger on the matter.

The Attorney General was accused by his predecessor, attorney Anil Nandlall, of threatening Justice Holder last Thursday, during a hearing involving suspended Chairman of the Public Service Commission Carvil Duncan.

But Williams denied that he threatened the judge and announced that he would take legal action over the claim and reportage on it. He specifically said that his lawyers were preparing to write letters to the two newspapers that published the allegations without speaking to him.

Observers have, however, noted that even in his own rendering of the events of the day in question, Williams’ words did not comport with what was expected from the Attorney General, Minister of Legal Affairs and the Leader of the Bar.

Williams told a press conference on Friday that when Justice Holder indicated that he was going to adjourn the matter, he asked whether he could be permitted to ask Duncan’s confidential secretary one final question.

He was permitted to do so. According to Williams, after noticing that the judge was about to leave the bench, he enquired whether the answer to the last question was recorded. “The judge to my surprise said, ‘Mr Williams you are not in charge of my court.’ And I said, ‘No sir’ …but the judge then said to me ‘Mr Williams I interpret what you are saying to mean that I deliberately did not record the answer that was given by the witness previously and I take great umbrage at that.’ And I said, ‘Sir, surely that is not on your record, because I never said anything to that effect or intended anything like that,’” he explained.

Williams recalled that he told the judge that his comments reminded him of a similar allegation made against him by a magistrate several years ago.

“He [the magistrate] cited me for contempt and the rest is history. And I said that since then I have always been very particular about what I say to the courts and to be precise so that nothing else like that could return and I said coincidentally that magistrate is dead now and I moved on,” he said.

Nandlall said the judge subsequently left the bench without adjourning the proceedings or setting a date for continuation.

Django
Django posted:
Zed posted:
Django posted:
Zed posted:

Also, your jubilation expressed in your post finally gives lie to your frequent statements that you do not support the coalition.

How about you ?,Your declaration of not supporting any Party in Guyana is like "throwing water in basket"

I can presume you are "Bharat Jagdeo" closet supporter.

I see the APNU/AFC as the lesser evil than the PPP under Bharat Jagdeo to govern Guyana,if you assume that is support so be it.

Stick to alyuh "Apaan Jaat"

read my response to kp.

Your response is laughable and is what I expect from little boys when they get into trouble - 'I did it and he did it too.' Your presumption exists in the false reality you have helped to create in youy cognitive structure. This is not about Jagdeo or your acceptance of the PNC/AFC an 'evil', albeit  lesser one than the PPP under Jagdeo. It is about the failure to mention that Basil William's story is not entirely true also and the orgasmic pleasure you displayed in your post.

I have declared my position regarding my non support for any political party and have been asking posters to prove what they say is true, which is fact based argument. You do not see me posting newspaper articles condemning or supporting any political party, quite unlike you. I do not think that I have started more than 5 posts, if my memory serves me correct. I would have thought that you who is the subject of many personal attack on this board would want a movement to fact based arguments.

Your statement about "alyuh Apaan Jaat" is logically puerile. Setting up a paper tiger so you can shoot it down! I dare you to show one post that I have made to indicate that I am a racist, support Jagdeo or supported Apaan Jaat. If you cannot, then I demand an apology!

Zed posted:

Also, your jubilation expressed in your post finally gives lie to your frequent statements that you do not support the coalition.

Trying to wiggle out,from your statement, take a deep look what you are insinuating,you also seem to pick and choose,there are two threads posted about Williams,both I have condemn his actions.

By the way who stop you from creating fact based threads??

I never knew the "Fifth Estate" are dissallowed from using materials from the "Fourth Estate" for discussions,or for that matter present their view for discussion.

Sometimes "Facts" stares us,to accept is like "finding a needle in hay stack"

What statement am I trying to wiggle out from? There is no insinuation in my post, it is clear if you have no problems with comprehension. It was about you not recognizing the discrepancy, your orgasmic joy, your statement of open support for the coalition after  denying support for any political party, 

Have you condemned his lie, the discrepancy between what he said on his interview and what was reportedly said by the judge? That was the main gist of what I said regarding your post.

You really need to work on your comprehension skills. Where did I said that someone was stopping me being fact based? Please reread carefully my post then come again.

You are trying to divert with  all this stuff about fifth and fourth estate.

I am still waiting for you to post my apaan jaat posts. Or my support for JAgdeo.. 

Z

AG Williams prepared to work with Judge to resolve issues over incident in Court

The Judge indicated that the incident stemmed from the Attorney General being loud in the courtroom while questioning him about whether he had recorded a statement from the witness who was on the stand during an ongoing hearing.

AG Williams prepared to work with Judge to resolve issues over incident in Court

While not committing to offering an apology, as requested by Justice Franklin Holder, Attorney General Basil Williams SC., has indicated that he is not “unprepared” to work with the Judge to “resolve what was a fleeting engagement after the business of the day was completed”.

In a letter to Acting Chancellor of the Judiciary, Justice Holder indicated that he wanted an apology from the Attorney General over his behaviour in his courtroom last week.

The Judge indicated that the incident stemmed from the Attorney General being loud in the courtroom while questioning him about whether he had recorded a statement from the witness who was on the stand during an ongoing hearing.

The Judge in his letter made no mention of ever being threatened or feeling threatened by the Attorney General, as was claimed by Former Attorney General, Anil Nandlall, and the opposition People’s Progressive Party.

He stated that Mr. Williams did make mention of a former Magistrate who has since died and the fact that the Magistrate was the last person who told him what he could and could not say.

However, the Judge did admit to leaving the bench without adjourning the court or giving directions to the parties involved.

Attorney General Williams, believes the statement by the Judge vindicates his position that he had never issued any death threat against the Judge. In a statement today, Mr. Williams thanked the Judge for doing the “right thing and exposing the iniquity of Nandlall”.

When questioned today at his Chambers on whether he would be prepared to give in to the Judge’s demand for an apology, the Attorney General said that will be dealt with if and when the time comes.

“We will discuss it, because you notice that it was Nandlall who caused the problem for three hours and the engagement with the Learned Judge and myself was merely three minutes”.

The Attorney General has already instructed his Attorneys to dispatch letters to Mr. Nandlall and the media houses that reported on his “libelous” statement that a death threat was made against the Judge. Senior Counsel Williams is convinced that the entire furore is part of a plan by the People’s Progressive Party to get to him and obstruct the work of the Court that is dealing with matters involving decisions that were made by the PPP administration.

http://newssourcegy.com/news/a...r-incident-in-court/

Mars
Django posted:
kp posted:
Django posted:
kp posted:

Look at this saga in colour, Justice Holder is a dam Blackman, after a phone call from maybe Harmon,or Granger he change his story, so the next day what do you expect him to say.Either way he was  threatened but as a PNC he had to take their side and the Attorney General is the BOSS.

Ha ha ha was waiting for such response,

Blackman fuh Blackman,

Collieman fuh Collieman.

When will it ends ???

In your case Coolie man for Blackman. Nandalall should sue you for defaming his name .you are the mischief maker .PNC will defend you and pay your legal expenses.  You like many in the past is using this forum to seek attention  showcase your talent  by supporting the PNC and hope to get a job.  You can fool some of us but you can't fool all of us.

Nandall can sue if he wants,let him bring it on,i will not need a Lawyer to defend my self.Our courts are not the kangaroo type you will find in third world countries.

Why would I want a job,a few months away i will be 64,and plan to chill.

Chill in Guyana.PNC needs propagandist like you to spread Fake News. Sorry you are doing an excellent  job on GNI.

K
Zed posted:
Django posted:
Zed posted:

Also, your jubilation expressed in your post finally gives lie to your frequent statements that you do not support the coalition.

Trying to wiggle out,from your statement, take a deep look what you are insinuating,you also seem to pick and choose,there are two threads posted about Williams,both I have condemn his actions.

By the way who stop you from creating fact based threads??

I never knew the "Fifth Estate" are dissallowed from using materials from the "Fourth Estate" for discussions,or for that matter present their view for discussion.

Sometimes "Facts" stares us,to accept is like "finding a needle in hay stack"

What statement am I trying to wiggle out from? There is no insinuation in my post, it is clear if you have no problems with comprehension. It was about you not recognizing the discrepancy, your orgasmic joy, your statement of open support for the coalition after  denying support for any political party, 

Have you condemned his lie, the discrepancy between what he said on his interview and what was reportedly said by the judge? That was the main gist of what I said regarding your post.

You really need to work on your comprehension skills. Where did I said that someone was stopping me being fact based? Please reread carefully my post then come again.

You are trying to divert with  all this stuff about fifth and fourth estate.

I am still waiting for you to post my apaan jaat posts. Or my support for JAgdeo.. 

Zed posted:

Also, your jubilation expressed in your post finally gives lie to your frequent statements that you do not support the coalition.

This is what you are wiggling out from,dissect your statement.


Zed posted:

"Have you condemned his lie, the discrepancy between what he said on his interview and what was reportedly said by the judge? That was the main gist of what I said regarding your post."


Basil Williams is a disgrace to APNU/AFC,this schmuck thinks this is the Burnhamite era,then on top of it Granger made him Senior Council,power flew to his head.

Let us see what action Granger will take against him.

My first post condemning Williams.

https://guyana.crowdstack.io/topic/ag...threat-to-magistrate

 

Django

You are still having problems, you are diverting. Where Am I try to wiggle out of that comment? I stand by it and have stood by it since I have posted.

still avoiding accepting that the story Williams told was different to some extent from what it was reported that the judge said?

Still awaiting my apaan jaat and pro-Jagdeo posts. 

Z
Zed posted:

You are still having problems, you are diverting. Where Am I try to wiggle out of that comment? I stand by it and have stood by it since I have posted.

still avoiding accepting that the story Williams told was different to some extent from what it was reported that the judge said?

Still awaiting my apaan jaat and pro-Jagdeo posts.

Standing by your post,you declared in your thoughts I am APNU/AFC supporter.

Have you any facts to prove that is true??

Mentioning,Stick to alyuh "Apaan Jaat"

You construed it to mean that I said you made such post and pro-Jagdeo post on GNI.

Sometimes information can be processed differently.

I haven't had any difficulty accepting Williams, tried to coverup his reckless behavior and for that he should be penalized,he holds a high office and should act accordingly.

I have seen him in Parliamentary debates,in my view his demeanor is authoritarian.

Django
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if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, it is a duck. 

What? Are you retracting your statement that if I assume that, it is support  so be it? Make up your mind.

Please educate me on what you meant when you made the remarks.

 

Z
Zed posted:

if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, it is a duck. 

What? Are you retracting your statement that if I assume that, it is support  so be it? Make up your mind.

Please educate me on what you meant when you made the remarks.

 

Quote the post.

Django
Django posted:
Zed posted:

if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, it is a duck. 

What? Are you retracting your statement that if I assume that, it is support  so be it? Make up your mind.

Please educate me on what you meant when you made the remarks.

 

Quote the post.

Check back this thread.

Z
Zed posted:
Django posted:
Zed posted:

if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, it is a duck. 

What? Are you retracting your statement that if I assume that, it is support  so be it? Make up your mind.

Please educate me on what you meant when you made the remarks.

 

Quote the post.

Check back this thread.

Stick to alyuh "Apaan Jaat"

What you talking about this ??

Couple months from now I will be 64,wha happen Budaay you trying to confuse or wha.

Django
Django posted:.

Stick to alyuh "Apaan Jaat"

What you talking about this ??

Couple months from now I will be 64,wha happen Budaay you trying to confuse or wha.

You have 1 foot in the grave and yet support the evil PNC?  Is this how you want to be remembered by your offspring?

FM
Drugb posted:
Django posted:.

Stick to alyuh "Apaan Jaat"

What you talking about this ??

Couple months from now I will be 64,wha happen Budaay you trying to confuse or wha.

You have 1 foot in the grave and yet support the evil PNC?  Is this how you want to be remembered by your offspring?

Who are you to predict some one longevity,no one believes my age until revealed,I am probably looking better than you.

Django
Django posted:
Drugb posted:
Django posted:.

Stick to alyuh "Apaan Jaat"

What you talking about this ??

Couple months from now I will be 64,wha happen Budaay you trying to confuse or wha.

You have 1 foot in the grave and yet support the evil PNC?  Is this how you want to be remembered by your offspring?

Who are you to predict some one longevity,no one believes my age until revealed,I am probably looking better than you.

Also they don't believe your gender .

K
kp posted:
Django posted:
Drugb posted:
Django posted:.

Stick to alyuh "Apaan Jaat"

What you talking about this ??

Couple months from now I will be 64,wha happen Budaay you trying to confuse or wha.

You have 1 foot in the grave and yet support the evil PNC?  Is this how you want to be remembered by your offspring?

Who are you to predict some one longevity,no one believes my age until revealed,I am probably looking better than you.

Also they don't believe your gender .

How the r@ss you arrived that ??

Django
kp posted:
Django posted:
Drugb posted:
Django posted:.

Stick to alyuh "Apaan Jaat"

What you talking about this ??

Couple months from now I will be 64,wha happen Budaay you trying to confuse or wha.

You have 1 foot in the grave and yet support the evil PNC?  Is this how you want to be remembered by your offspring?

Who are you to predict some one longevity,no one believes my age until revealed,I am probably looking better than you.

Also they don't believe your gender .

Django bhai, you behavin like wan Apan Jhaat. You got Zed, Drugb, Yujji, KP, GTangler and the rest of the PPP giving you a sound thrashing on a daily basis. Man if I were you, I would run and hide one of my work benches. A piece of advice here brother, declare your PNC support and stop hiding under that "Independent" label. I think that if you declare your PNC affiliation, these guys might accept it and take it easy on you. Lash like matthar dhall pun you.

FM
skeldon_man posted:
kp posted:
Django posted:
Drugb posted:
Django posted:.

Stick to alyuh "Apaan Jaat"

What you talking about this ??

Couple months from now I will be 64,wha happen Budaay you trying to confuse or wha.

You have 1 foot in the grave and yet support the evil PNC?  Is this how you want to be remembered by your offspring?

Who are you to predict some one longevity,no one believes my age until revealed,I am probably looking better than you.

Also they don't believe your gender .

Django bhai, you behavin like wan Apan Jhaat. You got Zed, Drugb, Yujji, KP, GTangler and the rest of the PPP giving you a sound thrashing on a daily basis. Man if I were you, I would run and hide one of my work benches. A piece of advice here brother, declare your PNC support and stop hiding under that "Independent" label. I think that if you declare your PNC affiliation, these guys might accept it and take it easy on you. Lash like matthar dhall pun you.

Bhai you sure you are reading  GNI correctly,GTangler the newbie is wan good guy we get along,Zed is alright the only prablem everything thing have to be fact based,when he is cornered expect lots of words to confuse,the rest like to gang up pun you.

Django
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Django posted:
skeldon_man posted:
kp posted:
Django posted:
Drugb posted:
Django posted:.

Stick to alyuh "Apaan Jaat"

What you talking about this ??

Couple months from now I will be 64,wha happen Budaay you trying to confuse or wha.

You have 1 foot in the grave and yet support the evil PNC?  Is this how you want to be remembered by your offspring?

Who are you to predict some one longevity,no one believes my age until revealed,I am probably looking better than you.

Also they don't believe your gender .

Django bhai, you behavin like wan Apan Jhaat. You got Zed, Drugb, Yujji, KP, GTangler and the rest of the PPP giving you a sound thrashing on a daily basis. Man if I were you, I would run and hide one of my work benches. A piece of advice here brother, declare your PNC support and stop hiding under that "Independent" label. I think that if you declare your PNC affiliation, these guys might accept it and take it easy on you. Lash like matthar dhall pun you.

Bhai you sure you are reading  GNI correctly,GTangler the newbie is wan good guy we get along,Zed is alright the only prablem everything thing have to be fact based,when he is cornered expect lots of words to confuse,the rest like to gang up pun you.

You think Zed and D2 are brothers?

FM
skeldon_man posted:
kp posted:
Django posted:
Drugb posted:
Django posted:.

Stick to alyuh "Apaan Jaat"

What you talking about this ??

Couple months from now I will be 64,wha happen Budaay you trying to confuse or wha.

You have 1 foot in the grave and yet support the evil PNC?  Is this how you want to be remembered by your offspring?

Who are you to predict some one longevity,no one believes my age until revealed,I am probably looking better than you.

Also they don't believe your gender .

Django bhai, you behavin like wan Apan Jhaat. You got Zed, Drugb, Yujji, KP, GTangler and the rest of the PPP giving you a sound thrashing on a daily basis. Man if I were you, I would run and hide one of my work benches. A piece of advice here brother, declare your PNC support and stop hiding under that "Independent" label. I think that if you declare your PNC affiliation, these guys might accept it and take it easy on you. Lash like matthar dhall pun you.

Skelly Bhai,

Django boldly endorsed the PNC by stating that they are much better than the PPP.

He is a closet PNC man. He is not telling the truth with his so called "independent" talk.

It is his right to get good trashing from PPP supporters on a daily basis until he catches sense.

FM

Basil Williams unfit to hold public office – Nandlall

http://citizensreportgy.com/?p=43357 March 29, 2017

The refusal of Attorney General, Basil Williams, to offer an apology to Justice Franklin Holder, after the uproar that forced the judge off the bench without adjourning the matter he was hearing at the time, has been deemed as further evidence that he is “unfit” to hold public office. This is according to former Attorney General, Anil Nandlall, who said, “The Attorney General, today, issued another statement aggravating the wrongs he has already committed by not only refusing to accept responsibility for his outrageous conduct and apologizing to the Judge and the Nation for his blatant prevarications, he “thanks Justice Holder for doing the right thing and exposing the iniquity of Nandlall.” “As far as I am aware, Justice Holder has not said a single word critical of me. He then continues to insult the Judge’s intellect by saying that the Judge ‘fell prey’ to ‘transferred frustration’. I am so happy that the nation has witnessed this incident. It has provided to the public, a preponderance of irrefutable evidence that this gentleman is mentally unfit to hold public office. Nandlall argued that excerpts of the letter, which was sent to the Judiciary by Justice Holder, and published by the state-owned, Guyana Chronicle, makes clear the primary points that were highlighted when the issue involving Williams and the judge was first brought to light.

BELOW IS HIS FULL STATEMENT:

It is anyone’s guess why the Guyana Chronicle is the only media outfit that has been given a copy of Justice Holder’s letter of complaint against the Attorney General’s conduct in open court on the 24th day of March, 2017, during the Carvil Duncan’s case. It is also anyone’s guess why the Guyana Chronicle is not releasing the letter to the public. So much for freedom of the press and information under this “new dispensation.” Nevertheless, the Guyana Chronicle has published snippets of the letter over the last two days. Despite its best spin, each publication has sunk the Attorney General deeper into a conundrum from which he may not be able to extricate himself, in the end.

From the excerpts of the letter published, thus far, in the Guyana Chronicle the following seminal points can be distilled:

(i) The learned Judge felt “disrespected”;

(ii) The learned Judge said that “the AG is in contempt” of his court;

(iii) The learned Judge described the AG’s statements in the Court as “most egregious”;

(iv) The learned Judge has called for a “genuine and meaningful apology” from Williams in open court;

(v) That in the absence of such an apology the learned Judge said that he “will not hear Williams in his court as an Attorney-at-law, in any case, whatsoever.”;

(vi) The learned Judge’s account of what transpired in the court at the relevant time bore a striking similarity to what I disclosed transpired and is materially different from what Williams recited at his Press Conference on the 24th March, 2017;

(vii) In other words, Williams has not only publicly lied about my conduct but he effectively is calling the learned Judge a liar as the Judge’s version did not corroborate the concocted tale which he told at his Press Conference;

(viii) The AG has now gotten two junior counsel at the Attorney General’s chambers, who were present in court, to give statements which are palpably false, in his defence, thereby putting their careers on the line by pitting them against the Judge, to make out the Judge to be a liar;

(ix) the learned Judge quoted Mr. Williams as saying “all morning Mr. Nandlall disrespecting you and you have done nothing about it” to which the learned Judge told Williams “that is not a true statement of what occurred.” Despite all of the foregoing already in the public domain, the Attorney General, today, issued another statement aggravating the wrongs he has already committed by not only refusing to accept responsibility for his outrageous conduct and apologizing to the Judge and the Nation for his blatant prevarications, he “thanks Justice Holder for doing the right thing and exposing the iniquity of Nandlall.” As far as I am aware, Justice Holder has not said a single word critical of me. He then continues to insult the Judge’s intellect by saying that the Judge “fell prey” to “transferred frustration” I am so happy that the nation has witnessed this incident. It has provided to the public, a preponderance of irrefutable evidence that this gentleman is mentally unfit to hold public office. Significantly, he has furnished this evidence all by himself, unsolicited. It is now for the President to act.

ANIL NANDLALL, PPP/C MP

Django
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This has become a PR nightmare for Williams and the PNC.

There are three sides to every story. President Granger should step forward and lay this to rest without throwing Williams or Anil under the bus.

It will be a win win for the PNC PR if he does that. 

No matter how we resent the PNC, we have to live with them for another three years. 

FM
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Gilbakka posted:
yuji22 posted:

This has become a PR nightmare for Williams and the PNC.

Is a PR nightmare for Django too. He lambasting Nandlall but dem boys thrashing he well and prappa.

All them r@ss a PPPite.

Django
yuji22 posted:
skeldon_man posted:
kp posted:
Django posted:
Drugb posted:
Django posted:.

Stick to alyuh "Apaan Jaat"

What you talking about this ??

Couple months from now I will be 64,wha happen Budaay you trying to confuse or wha.

You have 1 foot in the grave and yet support the evil PNC?  Is this how you want to be remembered by your offspring?

Who are you to predict some one longevity,no one believes my age until revealed,I am probably looking better than you.

Also they don't believe your gender .

Django bhai, you behavin like wan Apan Jhaat. You got Zed, Drugb, Yujji, KP, GTangler and the rest of the PPP giving you a sound thrashing on a daily basis. Man if I were you, I would run and hide one of my work benches. A piece of advice here brother, declare your PNC support and stop hiding under that "Independent" label. I think that if you declare your PNC affiliation, these guys might accept it and take it easy on you. Lash like matthar dhall pun you.

Skelly Bhai,

Django boldly endorsed the PNC by stating that they are much better than the PPP.

He is a closet PNC man. He is not telling the truth with his so called "independent" talk.

It is his right to get good trashing from PPP supporters on a daily basis until he catches sense.

He is a sucker for abuse. In Guyana , you are with US or you are with THEM, there is NO Independent Party like the USA. Django is either a PNC or a Pnc. He has disclose time and time again that he is against the PPP, so he is with THEM/PNC.

K
Django posted:
kp posted:
Django posted:
Drugb posted:
Django posted:.

Stick to alyuh "Apaan Jaat"

What you talking about this ??

Couple months from now I will be 64,wha happen Budaay you trying to confuse or wha.

You have 1 foot in the grave and yet support the evil PNC?  Is this how you want to be remembered by your offspring?

Who are you to predict some one longevity,no one believes my age until revealed,I am probably looking better than you.

Also they don't believe your gender .

How the r@ss you arrived that ??

Them say you TOOO good looking to be a man.

K
yuji22 posted:
 

There are three sides to every story. President Granger should step forward and lay this to rest without throwing Williams or Anil under the bus.

Williams behaves like a "Burnhamite",he needs discipline,not acceptable New Age.

Nandall always take first jump and then the story does change.

He "distilled" 9 pints fram kranakle.

Django
kp posted:
Django posted:

Who are you to predict some one longevity,no one believes my age until revealed,I am probably looking better than you.

Also they don't believe your gender .

How the r@ss you arrived that ??

Them say you TOOO good looking to be a man.

Oh skites i talking bout age,you thinking sumthing else.

Django
Django posted:
kp posted:
Django posted:

Who are you to predict some one longevity,no one believes my age until revealed,I am probably looking better than you.

Also they don't believe your gender .

How the r@ss you arrived that ??

Them say you TOOO good looking to be a man.

Oh skites i talking bout age,you thinking sumthing else.

If you want to reach 64, go rest yourself, you DAM old.

K
kp posted:
Django posted:
kp posted:
Django posted:

Who are you to predict some one longevity,no one believes my age until revealed,I am probably looking better than you.

Also they don't believe your gender .

How the r@ss you arrived that ??

Them say you TOOO good looking to be a man.

Oh skites i talking bout age,you thinking sumthing else.

If you want to reach 64, go rest yourself, you DAM old.

Question for dem 60 something, does the bamboo still work ?

FM
Django posted:
Gilbakka posted:
yuji22 posted:

This has become a PR nightmare for Williams and the PNC.

Is a PR nightmare for Django too. He lambasting Nandlall but dem boys thrashing he well and prappa.

All them r@ss a PPPite.

Do not cast your net so wide that it includes Zed! You make your bed hard,you lie on it. 

Z

Justice Holder demands “genuine and meaningful apology” in open court from Attorney General for “insulting and disrespectful” behaviour

 

Letter from Justice Franklin Holder to the Acting Chancellor of the Judiciary, Justice Yonette Cummings-Edwards.
The Honourable Chancellor (ag.)
Madam Justice Yonette Cummings-Edwards, CCH.
The High Court of the Supreme Court,
Georgetown.
Dear Madam Chancellor,
RE: REPORT ON CONTEMPTUOUS BEHAVIOUR OF MR BASIL WILLIAMS SC.

I would like to report an incident which occurred on the 23rd day of March, 2017, in the matter of the Application by Carvil Duncan, during the cross-examination of a witness by Mr Basil Williams, SC.
The Attorneys-at-Law in court at the time, including Mr Williams, were Ms Sam and Ms Stuart who were with him, and Mr Nandlall and Mr Jaigobin who appeared for the applicant.

During the cross-examination of the witness, Mr Williams had asked a question, the answer to which I initially recorded as “yes”. However, because of what the witness said immediately after and Mr Williams’ desire to cross-examine her on a document which she had prepared and for which he was making application to have admitted into evidence, I crossed out the answer “yes”.
Further into his cross-examination Mr Williams made certain statements which suggested that it was his belief, that the witness had said “yes”, and that this was the record of the Court. On recognising Mr Williams’ misconception of this part of the evidence, I then read aloud the record of the court in this regard. I further offered that he may ask the witness the question again if he so desired, since the record showed that there was no answer to the question. Mr Williams did not do so.
However, he proceeded to ask other questions of the witness, the answer to one of which, the witness said “no”. Upon the witness saying this, Mr. Williams, in a rather loud and bellicose tone said that I, the judge, must record “no” (in my Minute Book). I then said to him that a record is being made that the witness did say “no”. Apparently, not being satisfied with my assurance, Mr Williams followed up with words to the effect, that previously the witness had said yes and the court chose not to make a record of this. I then told Mr Williams that I took umbrage to his tone and what he was insinuating, which was in effect, that the Court was being selective in recording the evidence.

Mr Williams, in a truculent manner, while standing in the well of the court, responded by saying that the last person who told him what he should not say, was a Magistrate and he is now dead. He further said that “all morning Mr Nandlall disrespecting you, and you have not done anything about it.” This was, however, not a true statement of what had occurred. This was followed by a most egregious statement by Mr Williams, that “I could say what I want to say and when I want to say it, I have always been like that.”
Immediately after hearing these words, I rose from the Bench and went into my Chambers. I did not adjourn the matter, nor did I give any instructions to the parties.
I recognise Mr Williams’ behaviour as I have related to be insulting, disrespectful, and calculated to scandalise and lower the authority of the Court in the face of the Court.
Mr Williams’ behaviour was highly contemptuous and deserving of him being cited for contempt in the face of the Court. Instead of doing so at that moment, I chose to leave the Bench.
However, it does not mean that Mr Williams’ behaviour should go unattended. He is not only a Senior Counsel, he is also the Attorney General and leader of the Bar. His behaviour begs the question, whether he is respectful and aware of the functions and duties that attend these offices.
I am not prepared to sit to hear Mr Williams as an Attorney-at-Law in any matter whatsoever, unless he makes a genuine and meaningful apology to my satisfaction, in open Court, both to me and to the Members of the Bar, since they too were scandalized by his despicable conduct.

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yuji22 posted:

Look at this beggar man defending a liar and crook.

Shameless !!!

I told you already that someone lied to you about me begging anyone.

Furthermore Jackass, you've seen a little money and suddenly like a nevuh see come fuh see, you think that you have more money than everyone. My family has old money for generations being business people in GT since the early 20th century. We didn't live in  logies like you and your fellow Dalits. Nor do we have to run around masking ourselves as Ballahoo Brahmins as you do when you were once the dregs of society.

Also you should know that the richness of a man is not measured in gold alone. A vile old racist like you could never be considered as being rich since your heart is black with hate.

You obviously have an English Comprehension problem since you don't understand what I wrote but that is understandable since you are poorly educated.

Mars
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Mars, my view is that the mention of the death of a magistrate was important because the judge included it in the letter. I understand that legal minds are always ensuring that relevant information is available. Had it been irrelevant. He would not have included it.

in all fairness, the judge did not make a comment on whether or not he deemed it to be a threat. So, it is left to us reading the letter to draw conclusions. Nandlall drew his own conclusions, right or wrong in the context of the totality of the incident. 

 

Z
Zed posted:

Mars, my view is that the mention of the death of a magistrate was important because the judge included it in the letter. I understand that legal minds are always ensuring that relevant information is available. Had it been irrelevant. He would not have included it.

in all fairness, the judge did not make a comment on whether or not he deemed it to be a threat. So, it is left to us reading the letter to draw conclusions. Nandlall drew his own conclusions, right or wrong in the context of the totality of the incident. 

 

I think that Williams mentioned that the magistrate was now dead but did not mean it as a threat to the judge in the current case. If he did, the judge would have surely mentioned that he was threatened. Nandalall milked the incident for all that it is worth but he is clearly wrong.

Williams was rude in other ways to the judge, which the judge mentioned. He should offer an apology for that.

Mars
kp posted:

Django owes Anil an apology, if he is man enough..

Don't have to from day one Nandalall milked the incident for cheap political points,after the letter was released,he is beating around the bush about the statement  ''alleged death treath made to Judge"

Django
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