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Ramjattan and Moses,  2 of Guyana's greatest leaders ever.

 

Dr. King said the measure of a man is where you stand in times of controversy.

 

Moses and Ram embrace the now moderate PNC so that Guyana can live and our people can prosper as the vast resources of the richest Caricom country can flow to the working poor, not to the new PPP bourgeoisie.

 

Even our gods, the Jagans, could not have accomplished that even though they wanted that.

FM

Mr. Ram:

 

All you do is whistle louder and louder as you pass the cemetery.

 

What would you do when the Coalition triumphs with a 2/3 majority on May 11?

 

Ramjattan and Moses are the most credible leaders we have right now.  APNU also has a few good, moderate people.  That is why if there is going to be any national unity and a political solution for the country, it will be Moses and Ramjattan to usher in a new era.

FM
Originally Posted by Jay Bharrat:

Mr. Ram:

 

All you do is whistle louder and louder as you pass the cemetery.

 

What would you do when the Coalition triumphs with a 2/3 majority on May 11?

 

Ramjattan and Moses are the most credible leaders we have right now.  APNU also has a few good, moderate people.  That is why if there is going to be any national unity and a political solution for the country, it will be Moses and Ramjattan to usher in a new era.

Cde. Ramjattan and Moses are piggy backing on Cde. Granger and APNU Party, because within the coalition APNU is the majority and they will have the President if they win the next election, so don't sell Ram & Moses as to leaders, they are followers, in that chain they are the weakiest link.

K

Moses led the no-confidence motion and APNU supported (followed).

 

Great leaders know how to negotiate and work together.  Sometimes you lead, sometimes you go along with your colleagues. And roles change.  In some things you lead; in some things you follow.

 

In the PPP's case Ramotar follows everything Jagdeo says to do.  Jagdeo says jump; Ram says "how high."

 

There is no idea or policy since 2011 that was an original Ramotar idea. Ram is simply doing all Jagdeo's hangover scam projects.

FM
Originally Posted by Jay Bharrat:

Mr. Carib:

 

Please go to our website and make a generous donation.  Be part of the solution.  The AFC/APNU needs your support.

 

Stop the talking and analyzing, and do something for our working poor in Guyana.  God will bless you.

I don't pour money down sink holes.  Did that already with the AFC.

 

Now what proof is the AFC furnishing that they have votes to bring to the table, even as they demand 40% of the positions?

 

If you cannot deliver votes, who cares what your plans are?

FM
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Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Jay Bharrat:

Mr. Carib:

 

Please go to our website and make a generous donation.  Be part of the solution.  The AFC/APNU needs your support.

 

Stop the talking and analyzing, and do something for our working poor in Guyana.  God will bless you.

I don't pour money down sink holes.  Did that already with the AFC.

 

Now what proof is the AFC furnishing that they have votes to bring to the table, even as they demand 40% of the positions?

 

If you cannot deliver votes, who cares what your plans are?

 

Like all you in de PNC ketch sense now.

FM
Originally Posted by yuji22:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Jay Bharrat:

Mr. Carib:

 

Please go to our website and make a generous donation.  Be part of the solution.  The AFC/APNU needs your support.

 

Stop the talking and analyzing, and do something for our working poor in Guyana.  God will bless you.

I don't pour money down sink holes.  Did that already with the AFC.

 

Now what proof is the AFC furnishing that they have votes to bring to the table, even as they demand 40% of the positions?

 

If you cannot deliver votes, who cares what your plans are?

 

Like all you in de PNC ketch sense now.

  You in the PPP are just as guilty as the AFC is. Screaming victory and not facing facts that at least half of the population hates you.

FM
Originally Posted by Jay Bharrat:

We in the AFC are the party of love and unity.

 

We have a big umbrella.  Don't be left out.

 

Be the change you want to see.  Give generously.

Heard that in 2007.  You got 7%

 

Heard that in 2011.  You got 11%, and only because Nagamootoo left the PPP flat footed when he joined the AFC at the last minute, and snatched some PPP votes for himself.

 

In both years the AFC screamed 30%.

So pardon me if I am a skeptic.

FM

You noticed the trend is going up and up.

 

The mood of the country now is as it was in 1992.  Time for a change.

 

The ABC countries want change; the working poor want change.

 

The latest revelations this week of how they used the National Treasury for dental and medical work shows that the current PPP is in govt to use state resources as their personal piggy bank.  These crooks have to be stopped.

 

Carib, we need you now.  Be on the right side of history. Support the Coalition.

FM
Originally Posted by Jay Bharrat:

You noticed the trend is going up and up.

 

The mood of the country now is as it was in 1992.  Time for a change.

 

The ABC countries want change;.

If you really think that the ABC nations care the slightest about Guyana I have a bridge to the moon to sell you.

 

Greece in turmoil jeopardizing Europe,  Ukraine risking the resumption of the Cold War.  ISIS wreaking havoc.  Home grown terrorists in Europe, and now North America.

 

 

And you think that a little nation, a mere blotch on the map, with fewer people than most towns, stuck in an isolated corner of South America interests the ABC nations, you are really foolish.

 

Now as to the rest we will see on May 20th after the PPP has finished rigging the elections, buying votes, suppressing the vote, and finding ways to steal the election.  Unless the opposition win 55% of the votes they lose.  The PPP has already secured a buffer 5% of the votes to ensure victory and have well known riggers from the Burnham era to ensure that these ballots exist.

 

And I know that folks like you will scream in righteous indignation with your arrogant sense of entitlement that you deserve votes even though you aren't working to get them.

 

The PPP is working hard to win, using resource not available to the opposition.  And what is the opposition doing about it?

FM
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Originally Posted by Jay Bharrat:

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Carib, we need you now.  Be on the right side of history. Support the Coalition.

It might astound you to know but by bashing you all is the best support that you will get from me. While you are lost in your arrogant entitlement I am reminding you that unless the APNU AFC works hard to get votes in an environment which is tilted against them they will LOSE.

 

But you would rather I comfort you by allowing you to entertain the delusion that you will win with minimal effort, because "di PPP baad".  You will not win unless you win 55% of the ballots cast, to offset the 5% votes that the PPP will buy, steal, print, or suppress.  That is in addition to that 45-49%legally cast ballots that they will definitely win.

FM
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Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Jay Bharrat:

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Carib, we need you now.  Be on the right side of history. Support the Coalition.

It might astound you to know but by bashing you all is the best support that you will get from me. While you are lost in your arrogant entitlement I am reminding you that unless the APNU AFC works hard to get votes in an environment which is tilted against them they will LOSE.

 

But you would rather I comfort you by allowing you to entertain the delusion that you will win with minimal effort, because "di PPP baad".  You will not win unless you win 55% of the ballots cast, to offset the 5% votes that the PPP will buy, steal, print, or suppress.  That is in addition to that 45-49%legally cast ballots that they will definitely win.

 

I'm often amazed how in some campaigns the one guy who offers brutal facts is often vilified.

 

In reality, he's the campaign's best friend. It's the first sign of an amateur campaign on it's way to certain defeat when the campaign team is composed of yes men and cheerleaders.

FM
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Jay Bharrat:

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Carib, we need you now.  Be on the right side of history. Support the Coalition.

It might astound you to know but by bashing you all is the best support that you will get from me. While you are lost in your arrogant entitlement I am reminding you that unless the APNU AFC works hard to get votes in an environment which is tilted against them they will LOSE.

 

But you would rather I comfort you by allowing you to entertain the delusion that you will win with minimal effort, because "di PPP baad".  You will not win unless you win 55% of the ballots cast, to offset the 5% votes that the PPP will buy, steal, print, or suppress.  That is in addition to that 45-49%legally cast ballots that they will definitely win.

 

I'm often amazed how in some campaigns the one guy who offers brutal facts is often vilified.

 

In reality, he's the campaign's best friend. It's the first sign of an amateur campaign on it's way to certain defeat when the campaign team is composed of yes men and cheerleaders.

Don't worry.  In 2011 the AFC camped in Berbice. Screamed that they will get more votes than the PNC.  Boasted that they had the black vote in the bag and so didn't need to speak to them.

 

They accused me of being a PPP soup licker, and simultaneously called me a racist for suggesting that they wouldn't get the black vote unless they worked to get it.  Among them were the likes of Mitwah, who prior to that was a staunch PPP.

 

Just before the election, when they finally began to campaign in PNC strongholds it was the AFC, the DJ and  no one else.  Panic set in and they finally unleased Nigel Hughes.  But too late and the AFC lost 25% of its votes in Region 4, and only won more votes because of the 10k PPP supporters voted Nagamootoo, who they still probably still saw as a PPP man.

 

So I am amused when I see the same behavior repeated.

FM

The PPP is working hard to win, using resource not available to the opposition.  And what is the opposition doing about it?

 

They did this last time and lost the majority. Don't forget that.

 

Your point is well taken that AFC has to keep working.  So now go on the AFC website and put your money where your mouth is.  It's one thing to be an armchair analyst;now go and be part of the solution.  Thank you Brother.

FM
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Shaitaan:
Originally Posted by caribny:
Originally Posted by Jay Bharrat:

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Carib, we need you now.  Be on the right side of history. Support the Coalition.

It might astound you to know but by bashing you all is the best support that you will get from me. While you are lost in your arrogant entitlement I am reminding you that unless the APNU AFC works hard to get votes in an environment which is tilted against them they will LOSE.

 

But you would rather I comfort you by allowing you to entertain the delusion that you will win with minimal effort, because "di PPP baad".  You will not win unless you win 55% of the ballots cast, to offset the 5% votes that the PPP will buy, steal, print, or suppress.  That is in addition to that 45-49%legally cast ballots that they will definitely win.

 

I'm often amazed how in some campaigns the one guy who offers brutal facts is often vilified.

 

In reality, he's the campaign's best friend. It's the first sign of an amateur campaign on it's way to certain defeat when the campaign team is composed of yes men and cheerleaders.

Don't worry.  In 2011 the AFC camped in Berbice. Screamed that they will get more votes than the PNC.  Boasted that they had the black vote in the bag and so didn't need to speak to them.

 

They accused me of being a PPP soup licker, and simultaneously called me a racist for suggesting that they wouldn't get the black vote unless they worked to get it.  Among them were the likes of Mitwah, who prior to that was a staunch PPP.

 

Just before the election, when they finally began to campaign in PNC strongholds it was the AFC, the DJ and  no one else.  Panic set in and they finally unleased Nigel Hughes.  But too late and the AFC lost 25% of its votes in Region 4, and only won more votes because of the 10k PPP supporters voted Nagamootoo, who they still probably still saw as a PPP man.

 

So I am amused when I see the same behavior repeated.

You are a congenital racist. You have been posting the same shit over and over like a broken record. Get a life or get lost. Why don't you come to Guyana and campaign? You are full of horse manure.

Mitwah
Originally Posted by Jay Bharrat:

The PPP is working hard to win, using resource not available to the opposition.  And what is the opposition doing about it?

 

They did this last time and lost the majority. Don't forget that.

 

Your point is well taken that AFC has to keep working.  So now go on the AFC website and put your money where your mouth is.  It's one thing to be an armchair analyst;now go and be part of the solution.  Thank you Brother.

Please note something.

 

Those who voted for Nagamootoo did NOT vote for a PNC led coalition.

 

So as of this point you have NO PROOF to suggest that the AFC still has these votes.

 

Additionally the PPP at that time hadn't lost control of parliament.  Now that they have experience of this, they will use every thing at their disposal to regain parliamentary control.

 

So sit down there like a boy scout and think that this is a game of marbles.  The PPP knows full well if they lose, jail is a distinct possibility. 

 

There is no animal as vicious as a cornered one.  If the hunter assumes an arrogant attitude that he will capture this animal, because the animal is evil and deserves to be captured, he might sustain life threatening bites and scratches.

 

So continue with your simple attitude.

 

It is people like YOU who are responsible for the AFC losing 25% of the support that they had in Region 4 in 2007.  They were warned about the strategic error they were making in 2011 when they ignored the black vote, until the last minute, and then crashed and burned.

 

On May 12th please don't give me the opportunity to the repeat the "I told you so" which I did in December 2011.

FM
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Originally Posted by Jay Bharrat:

..  It's one thing to be an armchair analyst;now go and be part of the solution.  Thank you Brother.

Tell me something.

 

If you don't attach any value to my comments then why should I attach any to yours.

 

As of now the AFC DOES NOT DESERVE MY SUPPORT AND WILL NOT GET IT.

 

I am not a yes man and will never be. 

 

 

Now go sing "follow the leader leader, follow the leader" and hope that you don't end up falling down a cliff.

 

FM

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