from this:

"Indians are NOT 40% of the population. NO ONE and I repeat NO ONE working on either two campaigns think this."

to this (in the same post!):

"The answer is that the Indians are 40% of the population"

Shaitaan, can u dial back the confused/confusing shyte a click or two . . . yuh huttin meh head dis early marnin

My apologies Nemesis. That particular sentence should read "INDIANS ARE NOT 40% OF THE VOTING ELECTORATE..........."

Its late chap. I'm overworked and I'm exhausted. Memos doan write demselves. And I keeps an odd schedule.

But my point is that Indians are indeed 40% of the general population but that are significantly a much a higher percentage of the voting electorate.

The Indian people who show up to vote have to be in the viscinity of 47% to 51% of the total amount of people who vote. There is no other way to explain the PPP plus AFC grabbing 60% of the national vote.

i figured u meant that; but this kind of thing has the potential to spiral out of control and generate much waste of time to-and-froing . . . and we could do with less of that

now, how come u doan consider the rig factor to explain a significant chunk of the "show up to vote" PPP support at election time?

it's a lot more logical/real than the 'go to' explanation (y'all offer up with no statistical backup) that Indo-Guyanese are massively overrepresented in the voting age cohort

That's a very good point.

My contacts on the ground in 2011 sent me contemporaneous narrations of suspect PYO behavior at various poll sites in Indian areas.

I know that the PPP rigged the 2001 election from personal knowledge so I don't put it past them to frig/rig the 2011 result.

I doan know why you seem to think I'm your nemesis chap. On the contrary, I think you're one of the brightest sparks in lighting the way forward when it comes to Guyana. That people like Caribj and I should become irrelevant to the national conversation is not a bad idea. I'm ok with a 100% Black police force that does its job. And I'm even ok with a 100% Black Cabinet that will value Indian life equal to Black life and will rule Guyana for all Guyanese.

I sincerely do not want Indian superiority or privilege but a society where I don't have to care about race.

You may not even believe me but I'm generally more at home in the company of Afro-Guyanese than I am with Indo-Guyanese. I have more in common with Afro-Guyanese than I do with Indo-Guyanese. Especially the Afro-Saxon crowd.

And you're a senile non-Indian who thinks he knows Indian people. Well lemme clue you in chap on 2 tings hey.

Indians are NOT 40% of the population. NO ONE and I repeat NO ONE working on either two campaigns think this. YOU ALONE think that Guyana's VOTING ELECTORATE is 40%. You are frankly engaging in wishful thinking that the facts available to us do not support it. Let me join with Caribj once again and ask you how come this statistic is from the SEPTEMBER 15, 2012 CENSUS and only 40% of the voters cast ballots for APNU in November 28, 2011 while the PPP got 48% of the vote at that same election. So to do your math the PPP somehow got majority Indian support in excess of 40% of the electorate plus there was a spare 10k Indians forming 2 MP seats for the AFC which means the PPP got some incredibly significant number of Amerindian support plus Black/Mixed support.

You're either pretty stupid to hold to this notion that NO ONE IN GUYANESE politics subscribes or you're into shitty infantile propaganda or you just wanna be a belieber. You pick.

Why would the PNC is they really had a 60% advantage of the electorate work so hard to bring the AFC led by Moses into Coalition at the steep price of 12 MPs plus Prime Minister plus 40% of Cabinet. Since when did the PNC become so generous? Every sensible commentator believes this was to attract Indian voters to the Coalition. If there really was only 40% of the vote that was Indian, then guess what chap.....the PPP would not be trying to win all 100% of 40% of the vote and the Coalition would not be doing their damndest to attract Indo support. YOU D2 obviously know something that no one else thinks is true.

Humor me a little. Tell me how the PPP could have gotten 48% of the vote and the AFC got 11% (with 2 MPS out of Berbice alone) of the vote and you claim that Indians are only 40% of the overall vote. (considering that a census was done 9 months later which puts Indos at 40% of the population).

The answer is that the Indians are 40% of the population but a significantly higher percentage of the people who actually show up to vote. (and we know the Indian turnout was actually depressed in 2011).

That's a very good point.

My contacts on the ground in 2011 sent me contemporaneous narrations of suspect PYO behavior at various poll sites in Indian areas.

I know that the PPP rigged the 2001 election from personal knowledge so I don't put it past them to frig/rig the 2011 result.

I doan know why you seem to think I'm your nemesis chap. On the contrary, I think you're one of the brightest sparks in lighting the way forward when it comes to Guyana. That people like Caribj and I should become irrelevant to the national conversation is not a bad idea. I'm ok with a 100% Black police force that does its job. And I'm even ok with a 100% Black Cabinet that will value Indian life equal to Black life and will rule Guyana for all Guyanese.

I sincerely do not want Indian superiority or privilege but a society where I don't have to care about race.

You may not even believe me but I'm generally more at home in the company of Afro-Guyanese than I am with Indo-Guyanese. I have more in common with Afro-Guyanese than I do with Indo-Guyanese. Especially the Afro-Saxon crowd.

There are a loyal afro contingent supporting the PPP.

1.  The mixed population has grown by over 70% since 1991 census.  The overall Guyanese population has increased by a mere 3% in that period.

2.  The mixed population migrates at the same rates as the Indian and African population, so not migrating cannot be the excuse.

3.  Clearly then a significant % of this increase comes from sharply higher rates of miscegenation that has occurred within this period. Given this, an appreciable % of the mixed population is either below voting age, or in that irresponsible age group (18-24) where voting rates are lower than among more mature adults.

4. We can therefore deduce that the ethnic composition of the under 18 population is clearly different than the over 24 age group, which is likely to deliver the vast majority of the votes.

5.  I will not even get into what historical voter turnout between Indians and the African/mixed have been as this is a different election, so past patterns are likely irrelevant.

But leave it at this.  If 60% of the voting age population is non Indian and yet the combined opposition only got 51% of the votes, therefore the PPP would have made tremendous inroads into the African and mixed populations. 

Given that most people, including the PPP, suspect that the PPP is rejected by the vast majority of African and mixed identified voters, therefore it must be that the Indian vote is above 40%. 

Is it the majority as rev and yuji scream it is.  NO.  But the reality is that the PPP need attract fewer cross ethnic votes than does the coalition. 

So the coalition has to break into the Indian vote in order to win, or hope that Indians stay home in legions.

So there is no contradiction in Shaitaan's comments, and it is only your blind anger at posters who don't jump to your view of the world which blinds you. I find it most ironic that you seem to direct most of your rage against anti PPP posters.

lol

banna, did u take the time to read Shaitaan's response to my post? . . . i suggest u do so

u are a rale comic book

Were you not so angry you would have noted that I deleted my post upon reading Shaitaan's response . . .

so . . .  now it's my fault that u did something extraordinarily stupid?

lol

My response was to your stupidity when you seem to think that Shaitaan made contradictory points within the same post.  You said he was confused.

Now why did you say this if you understand that there is a difference between the demographics of the total population and the voting population?

well, Shaitaan actually acknowledged the problem i pointed out in his post and cured the "confusion" . . . which is why u tucked your tail between your legs and deleted your idiot response 'defending' him, no?

what is the basis for u picking up fire rage on his behalf again?

Redux you view GNI as a war where you must vanquish any anti PPP person who views the world differently than you do.

I don't.

Carry on merrily with your rage.

Shaitaan's comments were obviously a typo and not confusion.   Given his previous comments that Indians are more than 40% of the voters, even if not of the population at large, that should have been obvious.

Let's ice this argument and get back to the issue at hand.

It seems that even a PPP mouthpiece like Bisram is conceding that the Indian vote is being split in some significant fashion between the Coalition and the PPP.

That is a HUGE concession of Coalition strength.

Essequibo Coast is a vivid example and/or test case.

Both PPP and APNU+AFC scored big attendance-wise at their Anna Regina rallies.

The usual suspects in the APNU+AFC caravan didn't make it to Essequibo; what you saw were overwhelmingly Essequibians. Indians.

That hopefully will dent the PPP on May 11.

The Coalition is probably well advised to let the Berbician AFC fight to hold onto 1 or 1/2 an Indian seat in Berbice while they search for Indian votes in the Demerara and Essequibo which seem to be more fruitful hunting grounds for Coalition-friendly Indians. Assume that the AFC has hemorrhaged 50% to 75% of its Indian votes in Berbice which is 1 to 1.5 seats.

Bisram noted that the Coalition can pick up 1 (Indian) seat in Essequibo. Even if you guys miss taking a Geographic Seat there, your performance will be enough to merit 1 Seat on the national list.

Congratulations of some kind are in order for the AFC in Essequibo. Now you need to find 1 more Indian seat....perhaps 1/2 in Berbice and another 1/2 in Demerara. Perfectly possible.

When it's this close I would say momentum is on the side of the coalition.

That usually is the case.

If the PPP/C had a good economic record and no mention of corruption in State's assets as well as no his concern for violence that results in shooting deaths, it would have been a runaway for the PPP/C.

However some facts can't be erased, to wit, the PPP/C's share of the votes have declined in successive elections and it is currently a minority government, prorogation not withstanding.

This is a close election; the first with heavy social media; and a "change" atmosphere. TK's observation is worthy given these conditions of facts above and usually the closer the election the more the perception that one party has the momentum is true. It's like a boxing match (gotta see Pacquoiu/Mayweather this weekend) that's close until one turning point (Moses) and them the tide swings.

Moses Nagamootoo has been the death knell of the PPP. HE told them so. Thy ignored them. He made them a minority government last election and now he's about to make them see comfort in Lot 12.

AS usual, cheap talk.

No CAPS characters????

Moses already destroyed the alliance when he declared that he  is not an Indian.  He lost his berbice support and he is trying to make it look like he is working hard in PNC strongholds.  he is causing a stir in berbice by saying Indians are racists.  Well!  If you ask me Moses is looking like a dougla.  The Name JUDAS fits him well.

!  If you ask me Moses is looking like a dougla.  The Name JUDAS fits him well.