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Public losing trust, confidence in visionless Gov’t  –  says Ramson Jnr during Budget debate

February 8, 2016 6:10 pm Category: Local News, Politics A+ / A-

The route that the APNU+AFC coalition Government is taking remains “visionless”, the end result of which is that the entire Guyanese populace will lose its trust and any confidence it had in the administration “as citizens continue to suffer and live in fear”.

This was the bold and eloquent declaration by Opposition PPP/C Member of Parliament, Charles Ramson Jnr, during the week-long 2016 Budget debate that started today in the National Assembly.

He said the government’s actions and signals are “destroying confidence every day” among the citizenry.

“… the uncertainty of change, the pace of change, the uncertainty of a clear and articulated vision for the future…it is destroying confidence every day,” Ramson posited.

Opposition PPP/C Member of Parliament, Charles Ramson Jnr

Opposition PPP/C Member of Parliament, Charles Ramson Jnr

According to him, “the fear being created by the government is having a direct, adverse impact on the economy and the future of Guyana.”

“The fear about passing laws, giving GRA the power to go and investigate into your bank account, or the fear about moves being made to take away your land or property, the fear of higher taxes and increased fees and increased collections, the requirement of certificates of compliance before you obtain government services, the fear of the re-emergence of the People’s Militia, the fear of military officers seeking to unlawfully detain you or your family members then chasing them down the road in high speed, dangerous and reckless chases (one that ended up with three persons dead)  and then the government turns around and says there is no need for a probe…,” Ramson told the House.

He said another reason the public continues to doubt the Administration and cannot trust it is because of the “major political changes” which have taken place in government-run and government-controlled organisations and agencies.

“There are too many shocks in the system, too many for it to handle…persons with the institutional knowledge to effectively run the system are being replaced and they are being replaced often times with political hacks, persons who are ill-equipped to fill those positions. They are sent on leave for extended periods of time…,” he pointed out, in reference to the hundreds of persons especially from a particular ethnic group and  with known or perceived affiliations to the now Opposition PPP/C being dismissed or placed on the breadline since the APNU/AFC government took office nine months ago.

He pointed out that the APNU+AFC coalition is still operating as it did while it was in Opposition with regards to “cutting” the budgets presented in the National Assembly. To add credence to this argument, Ramson alluded to the fact that the Government last year (2015) budgeted for $221B, and of that amount, $30B was not spent.

“This time it is cutting its very own budget. All in all, it can’t work!”  Ramson Jnr declared.

According to the PPP/C MP, “when trust is lost it is sometimes never regained” and while the Administration touts that the economy has grown by three (3) per cent, the population is yet to “feel it”.

“If they do not feel the benefits of that 3 per cent growth, that their personal circumstances are improving, then it defeats the purpose. It also means that there is a qualitative disconnect between what the budget says and what they are feeling, which means that it affects credibility and in the end that affects their legitimacy…I was very surprised when I heard in the budget thus far that there were no reports of job losses.”

He explained that for the Government to believe that there has been no loss in jobs during the time it took office last year to date either means that the Administration is “not speaking to people” or that the citizens are not speaking to the Government.

However, the MP disclosed that his Party has been conversing with numerous businessmen across Guyana and they have been complaining that “money is not circulating” and “nothing ain’t happening”. (Kristen Macklingam)

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The PPP team knocked it out of the ballpark today in Parliament.  This British trained attorney won the prize for poise and eloquence!!!  Shades of Balram Singh Rai - and he almost as good looking!!!

Bibi Haniffa
Bibi Haniffa posted:

You and your boi Ruel Johnson who coined that term to be vindictive and malicious cannot hold a candle to Ramson.  All Ruel knows to do is sputter racism all day on social media!!

Nobody coined that word for Cde Bantilions. He didn't know the difference between battalions and Bantilions and proudly blurted it out himself. Bantilions is a dunce. I don't compare myself to those clowns. What a moron!

Mars
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Bibi Haniffa posted:

You and your boi Ruel Johnson who coined that term to be vindictive and malicious cannot hold a candle to Ramson.  All Ruel knows to do is sputter racism all day on social media!!

These people are intellectual runts compared the PPP boys, so in response to this deficit, they spout vile and vulgar remarks.  This is the brain thrust of the PNC!!!!

FM
baseman posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

You and your boi Ruel Johnson who coined that term to be vindictive and malicious cannot hold a candle to Ramson.  All Ruel knows to do is sputter racism all day on social media!!

These people are intellectual runts compared the PPP boys, so in response to this deficit, they spout vile and vulgar remarks.  This is the brain thrust of the PNC!!!!

None of you Hubu Backdam educated clowns can match wits with me. Hot air is all you can spew.

Mars
Bibi Haniffa posted:

The PPP team knocked it out of the ballpark today in Parliament.  This British trained attorney won the prize for poise and eloquence!!!  Shades of Balram Singh Rai - and he almost as good looking!!!

He just simply made a mistake in pronouncing "battalions", a mere slip of the tongue.  That is all they have on him - nothing else, he is smart, dapper, amicable and very cute. A very nice boy. And he is fast becoming as eloquent as his dad, who has a remarkable vocabulary. It was always a pleasure to watch and listen to Charles Sr. In parliament as he demolished the then opposition. I bet they needed to consult the dictionary at least once for every two sentences he uttered, but they would not admit that. 

FM
Mars posted:
baseman posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

You and your boi Ruel Johnson who coined that term to be vindictive and malicious cannot hold a candle to Ramson.  All Ruel knows to do is sputter racism all day on social media!!

These people are intellectual runts compared the PPP boys, so in response to this deficit, they spout vile and vulgar remarks.  This is the brain thrust of the PNC!!!!

None of you Hubu Backdam educated clowns can match wits with me. Hot air is all you can spew.

With all the wits you have, your mother never told you not to make fun of people speaking?

 

V
VishMahabir posted:
Mars posted:
baseman posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

You and your boi Ruel Johnson who coined that term to be vindictive and malicious cannot hold a candle to Ramson.  All Ruel knows to do is sputter racism all day on social media!!

These people are intellectual runts compared the PPP boys, so in response to this deficit, they spout vile and vulgar remarks.  This is the brain thrust of the PNC!!!!

None of you Hubu Backdam educated clowns can match wits with me. Hot air is all you can spew.

With all the wits you have, your mother never told you not to make fun of people speaking?

 

Leave my late mother out of this conversation you stupid moron.

If this is what you clowns term "eloquence", then it's quite worth the laugh.

Mars
Mars posted:
baseman posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

You and your boi Ruel Johnson who coined that term to be vindictive and malicious cannot hold a candle to Ramson.  All Ruel knows to do is sputter racism all day on social media!!

These people are intellectual runts compared the PPP boys, so in response to this deficit, they spout vile and vulgar remarks.  This is the brain thrust of the PNC!!!!

None of you Hubu Backdam educated clowns can match wits with me. Hot air is all you can spew.

You seems to be very familiar with the use of "Hubu Backdam Clown"... was that a family way they described you, now you try to use it on this forum.

FM
ian posted:
Mars posted:
baseman posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

You and your boi Ruel Johnson who coined that term to be vindictive and malicious cannot hold a candle to Ramson.  All Ruel knows to do is sputter racism all day on social media!!

These people are intellectual runts compared the PPP boys, so in response to this deficit, they spout vile and vulgar remarks.  This is the brain thrust of the PNC!!!!

None of you Hubu Backdam educated clowns can match wits with me. Hot air is all you can spew.

You seems to be very familiar with the use of "Hubu Backdam Clown"... was that a family way they described you, now you try to use it on this forum.

English please.

Mars
Mars posted:
ian posted:
Mars posted:
baseman posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

You and your boi Ruel Johnson who coined that term to be vindictive and malicious cannot hold a candle to Ramson.  All Ruel knows to do is sputter racism all day on social media!!

These people are intellectual runts compared the PPP boys, so in response to this deficit, they spout vile and vulgar remarks.  This is the brain thrust of the PNC!!!!

None of you Hubu Backdam educated clowns can match wits with me. Hot air is all you can spew.

You seems to be very familiar with the use of "Hubu Backdam Clown"... was that a family way they described you, now you try to use it on this forum.

English please.

Oh I see, ya happen someone make you un APPY tonight. 

FM
Mitwah posted:
Mars posted:

Listen to the eloquent one trying to quote Shakespeare. 

"When sorrows come, they come not single spies, but in battalions". 

https://www.facebook.com/muffm...s/10206150182545620/

Bantilions! Hahahaha

 

It sounds like he said " Batty Lions" hahahahahahaha!

Now, did that lil slip of the tongue gave you Batty Flapper.  hahahahahaha.  Clown!!!!

FM
Mars posted:
baseman posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

You and your boi Ruel Johnson who coined that term to be vindictive and malicious cannot hold a candle to Ramson.  All Ruel knows to do is sputter racism all day on social media!!

These people are intellectual runts compared the PPP boys, so in response to this deficit, they spout vile and vulgar remarks.  This is the brain thrust of the PNC!!!!

None of you Hubu Backdam educated clowns can match wits with me. Hot air is all you can spew.

And who the hell gives a damn about which back dam you crawled out from, hubu or no hubu!! And if you all that, Granger look for a few, PNC in bad shape!!!

FM
baseman posted:
Mars posted:
baseman posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

You and your boi Ruel Johnson who coined that term to be vindictive and malicious cannot hold a candle to Ramson.  All Ruel knows to do is sputter racism all day on social media!!

These people are intellectual runts compared the PPP boys, so in response to this deficit, they spout vile and vulgar remarks.  This is the brain thrust of the PNC!!!!

None of you Hubu Backdam educated clowns can match wits with me. Hot air is all you can spew.

And who the hell gives a damn about which back dam you crawled out from, hubu or no hubu!! And if you all that, Granger look for a few, PNC in bad shape!!!

Your Hubu Backdam High education is what differentiates me from you. Excellence and mediocrity. I don't belong to any political party and I'm not a soupatunist like you so why would I go running after Granger and the PNC? I'm quite comfortable where I am today. 

Mars
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susan posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:

The PPP team knocked it out of the ballpark today in Parliament.  This British trained attorney won the prize for poise and eloquence!!!  Shades of Balram Singh Rai - and he almost as good looking!!!

He just simply made a mistake in pronouncing "battalions", a mere slip of the tongue.  That is all they have on him - nothing else, he is smart, dapper, amicable and very cute. A very nice boy. And he is fast becoming as eloquent as his dad, who has a remarkable vocabulary. It was always a pleasure to watch and listen to Charles Sr. In parliament as he demolished the then opposition. I bet they needed to consult the dictionary at least once for every two sentences he uttered, but they would not admit that. 

Susan - I am totally with you on the comment above.  That nice boy is some serious eye candy going on right there.  Alana is a lucky lady!!!

Hey a slip of Charles' tongue is no fault of his mind

Bibi Haniffa

I have always being fascinated by Guyanese penchant to get overly impressed by their respective party's eloquence in Parliamentary debates. This goes back to the old PNC days. To me, it's always been a whole lot of "hot inconsequential air" because all this "talk" never amounts to much in the way of progress or development. As a matter of fact, it has always sounded like one side trying to one up the other side, knowing fully well that it's all words on paper, but overly impressed by their own so called eloquence at delivering these meaningless phrases. They know their ignorant constituents well.

FM
baseman posted:
RiffRaff posted:

I have always being fascinated by Guyanese penchant to get overly impressed by their respective party's eloquence in Parliamentary debates. This goes back to the old PNC days. To me, it's always been a whole lot of "hot inconsequential air" because all this "talk" never amounts to much in the way of progress or development. As a matter of fact, it has always sounded like one side trying to one up the other side, knowing fully well that it's all words on paper, but overly impressed by their own so called eloquence at delivering these meaningless phrases. They know their ignorant constituents well.

Why you just like to talk about yourself?  Suffer in silence and try night school!!

Riff started to sound like Stormy.

FM
RiffRaff posted:

I have always being fascinated by Guyanese penchant to get overly impressed by their respective party's eloquence in Parliamentary debates. This goes back to the old PNC days. To me, it's always been a whole lot of "hot inconsequential air" because all this "talk" never amounts to much in the way of progress or development. As a matter of fact, it has always sounded like one side trying to one up the other side, knowing fully well that it's all words on paper, but overly impressed by their own so called eloquence at delivering these meaningless phrases. They know their ignorant constituents well.

Riff - this is not true at all.  Most of the legislation and policy development of Guyana comes out of Parliament.  This is the governing body of the country.  Eloquence is not only presentation.  It is supporting the facts of the real world situation of the constituents.  These debates are what make Guyana a democracy.  Each side gets a chance to present their arguments.  Even though the speaker can duck certain items from the agenda.  And Barton Scotland seems to be a master of that.

 

Bibi Haniffa
Cobra posted:

That's the sentiment a lot of people shared that I spoke to at home in Guyana and here in the United States. This is very embarrassing for the government to say the least.

Cobra, the measure of any loss of confidence will be revealed in the Local Elections in just 6 weeks time.

 

Until then, we have to believe the President - that he is still very popular and his Prime Minister is still capable of bring over the 11 percent.

 

Let us wait for the results.

FM
Bibi Haniffa posted:

The PPP team knocked it out of the ballpark today in Parliament.  This British trained attorney won the prize for poise and eloquence!!!  Shades of Balram Singh Rai - and he almost as good looking!!!

The man is an empty vessel...more pomp than circumstance more peacock than man. If he is the brains and the future of the PPP then they are more than likely to be scuttled to the back of the pack for a long time. Guyana needs real people not fancy pants, air headed and addled brained peacocks. I do not care for Rai but even here one feels sorry for Rai if this  panty waist is seen as an apt comparison to him.

FM
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Bibi Haniffa posted:
RiffRaff posted:

I have always being fascinated by Guyanese penchant to get overly impressed by their respective party's eloquence in Parliamentary debates. This goes back to the old PNC days. To me, it's always been a whole lot of "hot inconsequential air" because all this "talk" never amounts to much in the way of progress or development. As a matter of fact, it has always sounded like one side trying to one up the other side, knowing fully well that it's all words on paper, but overly impressed by their own so called eloquence at delivering these meaningless phrases. They know their ignorant constituents well.

Riff - this is not true at all.  Most of the legislation and policy development of Guyana comes out of Parliament.  This is the governing body of the country.  Eloquence is not only presentation.  It is supporting the facts of the real world situation of the constituents.  These debates are what make Guyana a democracy.  Each side gets a chance to present their arguments.  Even though the speaker can duck certain items from the agenda.  And Barton Scotland seems to be a master of that.

 

What sort of swill have you been drinking. Parliament is a complete charade. The majority is subject to the whims of the president and all debates is for pomp and circumstance. Here we do not even have pretensions that democracy is in work.  It is myth making and self delusion and a complete parade of actors playing a role for the people and who are completely mouthing words handed to them.

No opposition bills are ever considered and all administration bills are law. They simply go through the motions like empty suits mimicking the white man whose assembly they mirror as a means to validate their pay.

FM
Cobra posted:

That's the sentiment a lot of people shared that I spoke to at home in Guyana and here in the United States. This is very embarrassing for the government to say the least.

We obviously didn't speak to the same people. In 5 weeks ...not one person I spoke to had any misgivings about the gov't aside from wanting corrupt PPP politicians prosecuted rather than just exposed. 

FM

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