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Originally Posted by Conscience:

The loggers voice is now public, Glen Lall and his sidekick Adam Harris has once again put the Kaietuer News to shame, that "news"paper is swiftly losing what ever creditably it has left....smh

 They can be as loud as they want that is incidental to the process of curtailing Chinese excessive destruction to the environment.

 

 

It is also clear that part of the Logging predation syndrome is the use of local people who become dependent on income for the Chinese to rationalize the destruction and thief of a nations forest resources.

 

This is nothing but part of a well honed strategy by some very crafty people who have politicians and local enablers in their pockets. It is one of the reason they always get away with their plunder.

FM

Responsible Journalism should be a key, the kaietuer news seems pre-occupied with printing fabricated stories in an attempt to boost their falling newspaper sells. Any newspaper vendor would say, that the kaietuer news is no longer preferred by readers as a source of creditably reporting. Its commonly referred to as the gossip papers. 

FM
Originally Posted by Conscience:

Responsible Journalism should be a key, the kaietuer news seems pre-occupied with printing fabricated stories in an attempt to boost their falling newspaper sells. Any newspaper vendor would say, that the kaietuer news is no longer preferred by readers as a source of creditably reporting. Its commonly referred to as the gossip papers. 

Responsible government would not let unfettered access to our lands by predators. The pictures tell a thousand words. They match what is in the global record of the behavior of the predators. It is a never-ending story, it did not happen with kaiteurnews. Where ever these people show up...destruction of the environment is the result. That is because they get into the society in the first place by co opting our local rent seeking politicians who are greedy for obscene wealth.

FM

History shows that collaborators have always sought to justify the reason why they sided with the enemy. Even if that meant great loss of lives and livelihood of their fellow citizens or beloved ones. Arguably the most well known case in history is that of Judas selling out Jesus for a few gold pieces.

These loggers are no different to Judas, except that Judas saw his error of judgement. But he could not undo what he had started, or prevent the eventual outcome. These loggers still have the chance to repent and save Guyana from a total deforestation. The meagre takings they make in comparison to what BSL is hauling away with their help, is not worth their cries of selfishness. Why should a handful of loggers have far more rights to cut down our trees so that they can make a living? It ain't their trees alone. It belongs to all of us, and we have as much say as any other man. And right now these loggers are outnumbered in the desire to keep our forest protected.

Mr.T

Councie, you have no credibility.

 

GFC says Bai Shan Lin did no logging at Kwebana in 2014â€ĶPhotos evidence rubbishes GFC claims

August 20, 2014 | By | Filed Under News 

- Residents and photos of parked trucks tell totally different story

Information provided by the Guyana Forestry Commission (GFC) regarding logging activities

This information provided by GFC is incorrect as ongoing logging activities on the ground at Kwebana say otherwise.

This information provided by GFC is incorrect as ongoing logging activities on the ground at Kwebana say otherwise.

by Chinese-owned Bai Shan Lin in Kwebana, Region One, in Essequibo, is totally false. The information has raised further questions about what other information provided by GFC is also untrue. Last week, in published statements and again on Monday during a press conference at the agency’s Kingston head office, Commissioner James Singh said that for the year, no logging activities took place in the Kwebana concession – an area of 87,361 hectares that is under the control of the Chinese company. The table, which Kaieteur News is publishing with this article, and which was presented to reporters during a press conference on Monday, indicates that Kwebana saw some 10,188 cubic metres logged last year. However, for this year, GFC claims that no logging activities took place there. The figure for the production provided was zero. This is a startling claim from GFC, especially since Kaieteur News flew over the area last week and saw activities ongoing. There was an entire line of Bai Shan Lin trucks with logs parked at a section of the

These Bai Shan Lin trucks were parked in the Kwebana forest concession, Region One last week. GFC said Monday that no logging took place there this year. This photo clearly says otherwise.

These Bai Shan Lin trucks were parked in the Kwebana forest concession, Region One last week. GFC said Monday that no logging took place there this year. This photo clearly says otherwise.

Kwebana concession. There were GFC tags and official markings on the logs – a clear indication that logs were being harvested with the full knowledge of the forest rangers. Commissioner Singh himself, in acknowledging the photos on Monday, said that the trucks may have been parked there as rain probably fell and it is standard procedure by logging companies to halt transportation of logs until the roads are in a better condition. The GFC figures would also be in sharp contrast to what residents of Kwebana, a small Amerindian community about 40 miles away, told Kaieteur News. They confirmed that logging activities are indeed taking place in the area. GFC and the government have been facing questions over the country’s logging policies and its seeming cozy relationship with a number of foreign companies, especially those from Asia, and including both Chinese- and Indian-owned operations. The Kwebana concession, according to GFC, was in the hands of well-known sawmiller, A Mazaharally and Sons, before a joint venture was entered into with Bai Shan Lin. The dense area has been proving a problem for the logging company because of an absence of roads. Several roads are now being cut through the area which is filled with especially prime species like Purpleheart, which is in high demand in overseas markets. Bai Shan Lin and Vaitarna Holdings Private Inc. were two companies which have been under scrutiny

This GFC tag on the logs would clearly indicate that forest rangers were aware that logging has taken place in Kwebana.

This GFC tag on the logs would clearly indicate that forest rangers were aware that logging has taken place in Kwebana.

for their logging activities. With Vaitarna’s promised processing facilities still to come on stream, there have been questions whether the business proposals they tabled when entering the local forestry sector were a mere sham and whether the true intentions were really logging. Several countries around the world and even in some parts of China have banned log exports. GFC said Monday that most logging companies find it financially better to export, as it would not make economic sense to set up processing facilities here for some of the species being concentrated on. The situation with especially Bai Shan Lin is a particularly touchy one for the administration. Guyana has been taking significant loans for infrastructural works from China and to a lesser extent India. The Chinese presence here has been growing significantly to the point where the landscape of Georgetown’s prime shopping areas has changed to include a number of Asian stores. While the Ministry of Home Affairs has been mum on the number of work permits it has been issuing in the last few years, it is a public “secret” that a significant number of them have been entering Guyana. In the Upper Berbice River area, at Kwakwani, the presence of the Chinese, and there are quite a number of them, have been viewed as a blessing by residents there involved in the logging industry.  Never before has there been an assured market as there is currently. Bai Shan Lin has even been allowed to lend its equipment to small operators from Kwakwani and other areas to help harvest the logs. Bai Shan Lin also has arrangements in place to move the logs, all reducing headaches that not so long ago plagued the Upper Berbice loggers. A few years ago, GFC was not even allowing equipment owned by others to operate in a third party forestry concession. That has all changed now. On the flip side, there are concerns that with the volume of equipment in the area, it will only be a matter of time before the area is totally harvested. However, GFC has refuted these claims, saying Monday that it has robust tracking systems and in any case, the concessions across Guyana are not being utilized to the maximum or as the agency puts it, the annual harvesting is below the maximum annual allowable cut. The reporting by the private media, including Kaieteur News and Stabroek News, has seen Government, and its regulatory arm, GFC, pulling out the stops to defend Bai Shan Lin and Vaitarna. Several full-page advertisements to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars, You Tube videos, radio and TV interviews as well, mobilizing support for the Chinese company, were used to counter the reports by the two independent newspapers which have been accused of being anti-investment.

Mitwah

Now This lady from Aroraima said - Bai shen ling has done the following:

 

1.  purchase wamara - speciy that was not marketable before - this is a positive thing.

 

2.  made available their equipment to the small loggers from aroaima; (good point)

 

3. improved their access road;(yet the road from kwakwani to linden is in a mess - this woman lied)

 

4.  made prompt payments; (but the amerinidians from the north west said that bai shain lin rob them millions in payments)

 

5.  help residents develop skill to improve their ability to work like teaching them how to drive (this is a lie - all the drivers were Chinese)

FM

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