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US judge in Hawaii grants motion for nationwide temporary restraining order of Trump’s travel ban

7 Mins Ago, March 15, 2017, http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/15...umps-travel-ban.html

Hours before it was to take effect, President Donald Trump's revised travel ban was put on hold Wednesday by a federal judge in Hawaii after hearing arguments that the executive order discriminates on the basis of nationality.

The ruling came as opponents renewed their legal challenges across the country, asking judges in three states to block the executive order that targets people from six predominantly Muslim countries.

More than half a dozen states are trying to stop the ban, and federal courts in Maryland, Washington state and Hawaii heard arguments about whether it should be put into practice early Thursday.

U.S. District Court Judge Derrick Watson decision prevents the executive order from going into effect, at least for now. Hawaii had requested a temporary restraining order.

Hawaii also argued that the ban would prevent residents from receiving visits from relatives in the six countries covered by the order. The state says the ban would harm its tourism industry and the ability to recruit foreign students and workers.

In Maryland, attorneys told a federal judge that the measure still discriminates against Muslims.

Government attorneys argued that the ban was revised substantially to address legal concerns, including the removal of an exemption for religious minorities from the affected countries.

"It doesn't say anything about religion. It doesn't draw any religious distinctions," said Jeffrey Wall, who argued for the Justice Department.

Attorneys for the ACLU and other groups said that Trump's statements on the campaign trail and statements from his advisers since he took office make clear that the intent of the ban is to ban Muslims. Trump policy adviser Stephen Miller has said the revised order was designed to have "the same basic policy outcome" as the first.

The new version of the ban details more of a national security rationale. It is narrower and eases some concerns about violating the due-process rights of travelers.

It applies only to new visas from Somalia, Iran, Syria, Sudan, Libya and Yemen and temporarily shuts down the U.S. refugee program. It does not apply to travelers who already have visas.

"Generally, courts defer on national security to the government," said U.S. District Judge Theodore Chuang. "Do I need to conclude that the national security purpose is a sham and false?"

In response, ACLU attorney Omar Jadwat pointed to Miller's statement and said the government had put out misleading and contradictory information about whether banning travel from six specific countries would make the nation safer.

The Maryland lawsuit also argues that it's against federal law for the Trump administration to reduce the number of refugees allowed into the United States this year by more than half, from 110,000 to 50,000. Attorneys argued that if that aspect of the ban takes effect, 60,000 people would be stranded in war-torn countries with nowhere else to go.

In the Hawaii case, the federal government said there was no need to issue an emergency restraining order because Hawaii officials offered only "generalized allegations" of harm.

Jeffrey Wall of the Office of the Solicitor General challenged Hawaii's claim that the order violates due-process rights of Ismail Elshikh as a U.S. citizen who wants his mother-in-law to visit his family from Syria. He says courts have not extended due-process rights outside of a spousal relationship.

Neal Katyal, a Washington, D.C., attorney representing Hawaii, called the story of Elshiskh, an Egyptian immigrant and naturalized U.S. citizen, "the story of America."

Wall told the judge that if he is inclined to issue an injunction, it should be tailored specifically to Hawaii and not nationwide.

In Washington state, U.S. District Judge James Robart — who halted the original ban last month — heard arguments in a lawsuit brought by the Northwest Immigrant Rights Project, which is making arguments similar to the ACLU's in the Maryland case.

Robart said he is most interested in two questions presented by the group's challenge to the ban: whether the ban violates federal immigration law, and whether the affected immigrants would be "irreparably harmed" should the ban go into effect.

He spent much of Wednesday afternoon's hearing grilling the lawyers about two seeming conflicting federal laws on immigration — one which gives the president the authority to keep "any class of aliens" out of the country, and another that forbids the government from discriminating on the basis of nationality when it comes to issuing immigrant visas.

Robart said he would issue a written order, but he did not say when. He is also overseeing the challenge brought by Washington state.

Attorney General Bob Ferguson argues that the new order harms residents, universities and businesses, especially tech companies such as Washington state-based Microsoft and Amazon, which rely on foreign workers. California, Maryland, Massachusetts, New York and Oregon have joined the claim.

Washington and Hawaii say the order also violates the First Amendment, which bars the government from favoring or disfavoring any religion. On that point, they say, the new ban is no different than the old. The states' First Amendment claim has not been resolved.

The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals refused to reinstate the original ban but did not rule on the discrimination claim.

Correction: This article has been updated to reflect that a U.S. judge in Hawaii granted a motion for a nationwide temporary restraining owner of Trump's travel ban.

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Trump never got far on that ladder...seems he got to the first rung and his head got stuck between the lower rungs with 'e beety cock up in the air. Dem boy say thats why he talkin sheer 5hit.

cain
Demerara_Guy posted:

Trump gets another bump down the ladder.

I think u r missing a fundamental point of what is going on.

Trump isssues a ban.

He goes on a trail of meeting the people.

Some judge somewhere over turns the ban.

Trump knows it will happen and stay in touch with the grassroot.

Here is the punch. Intimidation is going happen soon. And real soon.

Anybody assumed to be a muslim would be intimidated. It would be overbearing, they themselves will agree to the ban and demonstrate in the streets of America for the ban.

It is going to happen. Four years is plenty of time for Bannon to achieve his objectives. Dem men very serious about stemming the tide of extremist entering their country. And I side wid dem white people.

S

You missed the part where he gets impeached

Siggy I hope you whiter than me if you aint u better not try visit the US. You still haven't learned a thing nuh.Is not just Muslims dem red necks after..it's anyone darker than dem.

cain
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cain posted:

You missed the part where he gets impeached

Siggy I hope you whiter than me if you aint u better not try visit the US. You still haven't learned a thing nuh.Is not just Muslims dem red necks after..it's anyone darker than dem.

Well said.

FM
seignet posted:
Demerara_Guy posted:

Trump gets another bump down the ladder.

I think u r missing a fundamental point of what is going on.

Trump isssues a ban.

He goes on a trail of meeting the people.

Some judge somewhere over turns the ban.

Trump knows it will happen and stay in touch with the grassroot.

Here is the punch. Intimidation is going happen soon. And real soon.

Anybody assumed to be a muslim would be intimidated. It would be overbearing, they themselves will agree to the ban and demonstrate in the streets of America for the ban.

It is going to happen. Four years is plenty of time for Bannon to achieve his objectives. Dem men very serious about stemming the tide of extremist entering their country. And I side wid dem white people.

The fundamental issue is that Trump issued a ban which is inconsistent with the constitution.

The constitution always override the wishes and expectations of the president of the US_of_A.

Where there is no law, then there is the least of all liberties.

FM

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