Tola suicide organization got competition

Looks like Tola's organization is not doing such a good job, these other guys find it necessary to set up their own suicide NGO: ‘The Hope is Rising’,

NGO strives to reduce suicide in Guyana


 

 

An organization that is bent on decreasing the alarming rates of suicide in Guyana has collaborated with the Ministry of Social Protection to move Guyana from being labeled as one of the countries with the highest rates of suicide in the World.
‘The Hope is Rising’, a Non-Governmental Organization (NGO) in collaboration with the Ministry of Social Protection, launched a concert which will be held at the National Stadium on November 3rd, 2017. The event was launched last evening at the Regency Hotel. The concert is expected to include performances from popular local and international gospel artistes.
It is promised to be not only one with a difference, but one which will transform lives.
It was organized by Christians in Guyana who have recognized the need for an intervention and cooperation between the church and the government to eliminate suicide.

Popular Guyanese artiste, Saiku sharing remarks at last evening’s forum

An official from the NGO, Melissa Davy said, “We are going to be having the Travis Greene celebration of Life Concert. This is actually the launch of the activity. We have many stakeholders here; we have pastors, businessmen and women, persons from all parts of society are here today. A lot of them are very influential people. This organization is non-profit, and all of us who are in the organization actually have our own jobs or businesses, but we work together to reduce poverty through job creation, which will eventually reduce suicide and violence. We are working in partnership with the Ministry of Social Protection, they have come onboard and are supporting.
“The organization has realized that there are a number of people in society who are hurting and in despair and might feel hopeless, but we are here to help those people and to encourage them to use their skills to become a more productive person and in the process minimizing not only poverty, but suicide.”
Persons attending the concert at the National Stadium can expect performances from international artiste, Travis Greene and his band, Saiku; Sherwin Gardener, Samuel Medas, Cherlyn Melony, Cassandra Keise, Kester Deane and several other artistes.
The Hope is Rising is a NGO which was established in April of this year and is an arm of the Philia Foundation, which has been in existence since 2008. It is a ‘faith based organization’ that works along with various churches, the government and the public sector. The aim of the institution is to cooperate with other institutions with the intent of eradicating poverty and suicide in Guyana through the creation of jobs. It is led by Pastor Joseph Persaud.
In previous ventures, the association was able to provide jobs through Qualfon and the Ministry of Social Protection, who implemented a ‘job bank’ to help persons find a job that matches their qualifications.

 

 

Original Post
Drugb posted:

Looks like Tola's organization is not doing such a good job, these other guys find it necessary to set up their own suicide NGO: ‘The Hope is Rising’,

What reason would anyone have for such nasty negative comment of a noble cause? You crave attention this much?

Django posted:

That's great,

the Afro brothers and sisters are assisting,it clearly shows to warped minds,Guyanese are looking out for each other,real change is in the horizon,not good for the Divisionist.

This has nothing to do with Afro.  This thread is about suicide.  Read it back again you will see what I am talking about.

Gilbakka posted:

Suicide groups are mushrooming like dandelions inside and outside Guyana to combat the scourge in Berbice, Demerara and Essequibo. Why would a poster want to single out Tola if not for mischief and provocation? 

Don't talk about mischief.  You have been found guilty of Giving out inaccurate information about people's personal lives to other posters solely for the purpose of mischief making.  As such you are no authority on the subject since you lost credibility.

Bibi Haniffa posted:
Django posted:

That's great,

the Afro brothers and sisters are assisting,it clearly shows to warped minds,Guyanese are looking out for each other,real change is in the horizon,not good for the Divisionist.

This has nothing to do with Afro.  This thread is about suicide.  Read it back again you will see what I am talking about.

What you talking about ???

read below,the Afro brothers and sisters are assisting on decreasing the alarming rates of suicide.

"Persons attending the concert at the National Stadium can expect performances from international artiste, Travis Greene and his band, Saiku; Sherwin Gardener, Samuel Medas, Cherlyn Melony, Cassandra Keise, Kester Deane and several other artistes."

Chief posted:

Thanks Cain.

How are you Buddy?

Ah deh!  

I am actually on the road a lot. I see dem guys sold or selling off their mosque in Thorncliff and and just grabbed another building nearby (by my place) for 8mil banna. Dunno if you know the area..it is off Overlea Blvd.

Django posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Django posted:

That's great,

the Afro brothers and sisters are assisting,it clearly shows to warped minds,Guyanese are looking out for each other,real change is in the horizon,not good for the Divisionist.

This has nothing to do with Afro.  This thread is about suicide.  Read it back again you will see what I am talking about.

What you talking about ???

read below,the Afro brothers and sisters are assisting on decreasing the alarming rates of suicide.

"Persons attending the concert at the National Stadium can expect performances from international artiste, Travis Greene and his band, Saiku; Sherwin Gardener, Samuel Medas, Cherlyn Melony, Cassandra Keise, Kester Deane and several other artistes."

Read the article again.  It's about suicide.  And if you don't believe me, ask somebody else.  They will tell you it's about suicide.  

cain posted:
Chief posted:

Thanks Cain.

How are you Buddy?

Ah deh!  

I am actually on the road a lot. I see dem guys sold or selling off their mosque in Thorncliff and and just grabbed another building nearby (by my place) for 8mil banna. Dunno if you know the area..it is off Overlea Blvd.

Is that the Brampton area?

Chief posted:
cain posted:
Chief posted:

Thanks Cain.

How are you Buddy?

Ah deh!  

I am actually on the road a lot. I see dem guys sold or selling off their mosque in Thorncliff and and just grabbed another building nearby (by my place) for 8mil banna. Dunno if you know the area..it is off Overlea Blvd.

Is that the Brampton area?

No, just West of Scarborough, off of Don Mills. It is said this is an area with the largest group of Muslims in Ontario...and possibly Canada.

Bibi Haniffa posted:
Gilbakka posted:

Suicide groups are mushrooming like dandelions inside and outside Guyana to combat the scourge in Berbice, Demerara and Essequibo. Why would a poster want to single out Tola if not for mischief and provocation? 

Don't talk about mischief.  You have been found guilty of Giving out inaccurate information about people's personal lives to other posters solely for the purpose of mischief making.  As such you are no authority on the subject since you lost credibility.

Oh my my my there you have it girly.  Me Mammy always warn me of old men.  Sir Gibbakka adores madame secretary but not her man crave Hon Dr B Jagdeo, president come 2020 huh.

Bibi Haniffa posted:
Django posted:

That's great,

the Afro brothers and sisters are assisting,it clearly shows to warped minds,Guyanese are looking out for each other,real change is in the horizon,not good for the Divisionist.

This has nothing to do with Afro.  This thread is about suicide.  Read it back again you will see what I am talking about.

You have to excuse djangy, it could be the after effects of consuming too much roasted black bigan choka. He now seeing a black man in every shadow and around every corner.

Bibi Haniffa posted:
Django posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Django posted:

That's great,

the Afro brothers and sisters are assisting,it clearly shows to warped minds,Guyanese are looking out for each other,real change is in the horizon,not good for the Divisionist.

This has nothing to do with Afro.  This thread is about suicide.  Read it back again you will see what I am talking about.

What you talking about ???

read below,the Afro brothers and sisters are assisting on decreasing the alarming rates of suicide.

"Persons attending the concert at the National Stadium can expect performances from international artiste, Travis Greene and his band, Saiku; Sherwin Gardener, Samuel Medas, Cherlyn Melony, Cassandra Keise, Kester Deane and several other artistes."

Read the article again.  It's about suicide.  And if you don't believe me, ask somebody else.  They will tell you it's about suicide.  

LMAO @Bibi Haniffa primary school post.

antabanta posted:
Drugb posted:

Looks like Tola's organization is not doing such a good job, these other guys find it necessary to set up their own suicide NGO: ‘The Hope is Rising’,

What reason would anyone have for such nasty negative comment of a noble cause? You crave attention this much?

This is not a negative comment, it is an observation that for such a small country, 2 or more NGO will be competing for the same funding and will not be as effective as they will be spending most of the funds on maintaining two different organizational structures, advertising, outreach personnel etc. Get your mind out of the gutter.

Drugb posted:
antabanta posted:
Drugb posted:

Looks like Tola's organization is not doing such a good job, these other guys find it necessary to set up their own suicide NGO: ‘The Hope is Rising’,

What reason would anyone have for such nasty negative comment of a noble cause? You crave attention this much?

This is not a negative comment, it is an observation that for such a small country, 2 or more NGO will be competing for the same funding and will not be as effective as they will be spending most of the funds on maintaining two different organizational structures, advertising, outreach personnel etc. Get your mind out of the gutter.

Bullshyte! Don't try to weasel your way out by posting more BS.

antabanta posted:

Bullshyte! Don't try to weasel your way out by posting more BS.

Look, it is not my business that your head in the gutter but there is more to this than the eyes can see. 

Apparently this organization "the hope is rising" seem to have done a study and determined that jobs will cure suicide:

"“The organization has realized that there are a number of people in society who are hurting and in despair and might feel hopeless, but we are here to help those people and to encourage them to use their skills to become a more productive person and in the process minimizing not only poverty, but suicide.”"

In fact, most of the suicide cases I have read about in Guyana involve mental issues over relationships gone bad rather than people killing themselves over lack of good jobs. 

Tola et al were not addressing this, neither is this new group. Based on what I read, they are doing a concert at the stadium to raise cash but I wonder if this is a scam or what percentage of the money will actually go to help people. 

 

Princess Di posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Gilbakka posted:

Suicide groups are mushrooming like dandelions inside and outside Guyana to combat the scourge in Berbice, Demerara and Essequibo. Why would a poster want to single out Tola if not for mischief and provocation? 

Don't talk about mischief.  You have been found guilty of Giving out inaccurate information about people's personal lives to other posters solely for the purpose of mischief making.  As such you are no authority on the subject since you lost credibility.

Oh my my my there you have it girly.  Me Mammy always warn me of old men.  Sir Gibbakka adores madame secretary but not her man crave Hon Dr B Jagdeo, president come 2020 huh.

You going from base to base man!!!

alena06 posted:
Princess Di posted:
Bibi Haniffa posted:
Gilbakka posted:

Suicide groups are mushrooming like dandelions inside and outside Guyana to combat the scourge in Berbice, Demerara and Essequibo. Why would a poster want to single out Tola if not for mischief and provocation? 

Don't talk about mischief.  You have been found guilty of Giving out inaccurate information about people's personal lives to other posters solely for the purpose of mischief making.  As such you are no authority on the subject since you lost credibility.

Oh my my my there you have it girly.  Me Mammy always warn me of old men.  Sir Gibbakka adores madame secretary but not her man crave Hon Dr B Jagdeo, president come 2020 huh.

You going from base to base man!!!

GNI Rocks. 

Drugb posted:
antabanta posted:

Bullshyte! Don't try to weasel your way out by posting more BS.

Look, it is not my business that your head in the gutter but there is more to this than the eyes can see. 

Apparently this organization "the hope is rising" seem to have done a study and determined that jobs will cure suicide:

"“The organization has realized that there are a number of people in society who are hurting and in despair and might feel hopeless, but we are here to help those people and to encourage them to use their skills to become a more productive person and in the process minimizing not only poverty, but suicide.”"

In fact, most of the suicide cases I have read about in Guyana involve mental issues over relationships gone bad rather than people killing themselves over lack of good jobs. 

Tola et al were not addressing this, neither is this new group. Based on what I read, they are doing a concert at the stadium to raise cash but I wonder if this is a scam or what percentage of the money will actually go to help people. 

 

What is Tola and his organization doing and why are you displeased with it? Did you really need a study to understand the impact of gainful occupation on the psyche? How will a non-profit organization go about providing jobs for the citizens of a country? If they cannot do that, how can they help?

antabanta posted: 

What is Tola and his organization doing and why are you displeased with it? Did you really need a study to understand the impact of gainful occupation on the psyche? How will a non-profit organization go about providing jobs for the citizens of a country? If they cannot do that, how can they help?

I see you also determined that the reason for suicide in Guyana is due to lack of jobs and no analysis is needed. This is not surprising as this is how the PNC is running Guyana today, bypass studies and come up with solutions off the top of their heads. 

If you did a cursory study based on news paper articles, you would note that at least 99% of the suicide cases are due to mental issues related to relationships and not to job loss.  But as a PNC operative, this will not resonate with your wrang and strang mentality. 

Drugb posted:
antabanta posted:
 

What is Tola and his organization doing and why are you displeased with it? 

Suicide rose under the watch of Tola and his alleged NGO organization. Need I say more?

Count your blessings that Tola was able to save you. 

 

There is a group going to Guyana from England on 6th October 2017, to assist with the suicide problem, they will be travelling to all three counties. Many of these guys are specialists in this field, I am trying to get another doctor from Toronto to join them ,but he recently lost his father, he may still go later.Guyana has doctors and nuff lawyers ,but no specialists in the field of mental problems, we are quick to call people MAD, but never think that there is a solution. Please note, these mental specialists are paying their own way,and donating their time and resources.

Drugb posted:
antabanta posted: 

What is Tola and his organization doing and why are you displeased with it? Did you really need a study to understand the impact of gainful occupation on the psyche? How will a non-profit organization go about providing jobs for the citizens of a country? If they cannot do that, how can they help?

I see you also determined that the reason for suicide in Guyana is due to lack of jobs and no analysis is needed. This is not surprising as this is how the PNC is running Guyana today, bypass studies and come up with solutions off the top of their heads. 

If you did a cursory study based on news paper articles, you would note that at least 99% of the suicide cases are due to mental issues related to relationships and not to job loss.  But as a PNC operative, this will not resonate with your wrang and strang mentality. 

Please explain your arrival at this conclusion. Or is this just more of your usual Rat groupie thoughtless and asinine behavior?

Who in the world would believe that you studied newspaper articles on suicide?

Are you denying that lack of gainful occupation impacts people mentally and emotionally?

Drugb posted:
antabanta posted:
 

What is Tola and his organization doing and why are you displeased with it? 

Suicide rose under the watch of Tola and his alleged NGO organization. Need I say more?

Yes. Are you suggesting that Tola and his organization are pushing people to suicide? Did you arrive at this from another cursory study of the newspapers?

antabanta posted:
 
 

Please explain your arrival at this conclusion. Or is this just more of your usual Rat groupie thoughtless and asinine behavior?

Who in the world would believe that you studied newspaper articles on suicide?

Are you denying that lack of gainful occupation impacts people mentally and emotionally?

Don't play stupid. If you were following the daily news out of Guyana you would know that the majority of suicide were crimes of passion and mental health not related to lack of employment.  Lack of employment does not drive people to suicide, it drive them to rob.   You should know this as PNC supporters are known as skillful robbers. 

antabanta posted:

Yes. Are you suggesting that Tola and his organization are pushing people to suicide? Did you arrive at this from another cursory study of the newspapers?

You may be on to something here. At the very least his organization has been ineffective if you consider the measure of his success as result based. 

antabanta posted:
Drugb posted:
antabanta posted: 

What is Tola and his organization doing and why are you displeased with it? Did you really need a study to understand the impact of gainful occupation on the psyche? How will a non-profit organization go about providing jobs for the citizens of a country? If they cannot do that, how can they help?

I see you also determined that the reason for suicide in Guyana is due to lack of jobs and no analysis is needed. This is not surprising as this is how the PNC is running Guyana today, bypass studies and come up with solutions off the top of their heads. 

If you did a cursory study based on news paper articles, you would note that at least 99% of the suicide cases are due to mental issues related to relationships and not to job loss.  But as a PNC operative, this will not resonate with your wrang and strang mentality. 

Please explain your arrival at this conclusion. Or is this just more of your usual Rat groupie thoughtless and asinine behavior?

Who in the world would believe that you studied newspaper articles on suicide?

Are you denying that lack of gainful occupation impacts people mentally and emotionally?

Who in the world would believe he has a brain?

Drugb posted:
antabanta posted:

Yes. Are you suggesting that Tola and his organization are pushing people to suicide? Did you arrive at this from another cursory study of the newspapers?

You may be on to something here. At the very least his organization has been ineffective if you consider the measure of his success as result based. 

Drugbeer, why are you singling out Tola? Get a life jackass. teck dis. 

Drugb posted:
antabanta posted:

Yes. Are you suggesting that Tola and his organization are pushing people to suicide? Did you arrive at this from another cursory study of the newspapers?

You may be on to something here. At the very least his organization has been ineffective if you consider the measure of his success as result based. 

How do you measure success? What cost do you put on a human life? Please answer honestly. As far as I am concerned, if one life was saved, it's success. 

Drugb posted:
antabanta posted:
 
 

Please explain your arrival at this conclusion. Or is this just more of your usual Rat groupie thoughtless and asinine behavior?

Who in the world would believe that you studied newspaper articles on suicide?

Are you denying that lack of gainful occupation impacts people mentally and emotionally?

Don't play stupid. If you were following the daily news out of Guyana you would know that the majority of suicide were crimes of passion and mental health not related to lack of employment.  Lack of employment does not drive people to suicide, it drive them to rob.   You should know this as PNC supporters are known as skillful robbers. 

The most skillful robber in Guyana is your idol the Rat. But let's not digress. Are you denying that lack of gainful occupation impacts people mentally and emotionally?

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