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Pensioner beaten as armed bandits rob Corentyne family

 

By Andrew Carmichael

A 67-year-old pensioner was beaten in the presence of her two grandchildren when armed bandits invaded the family’s home at Port Mourant on Thursday evening.
The incident took place at about 19:00h at Lot 270 Ankerville, Port Mourant, Berbice and in the presence of the pensioner’s two terrified grandchildren.
The pensioner, Ahilyah Akunjebehari, was relaxing under the house with her 12-

The family was seated together when the bandits attacked

year-old grandson and was being visited by her 22-year-old granddaughter and her baby when two men appeared suddenly. One of the men quickly unscrewed the bulb in the yard, thereby diminishing visibility by any onlooker.
The other men carried a gun and a piece of metal pipe. According to Akunjebehari, she was struck in the head before they raided her home and robbed her of various items.
“Just as they approached me one put a gun to my head and said don’t run.”
The pensioner explained that the men demanded cash and jewellery. She said one of the bandits removed the four gold rings she was wearing on her left hand.
“I don’t know how much for those jewellery, dem gold ring make very long; is my mother had given them to me a long time ago,” the 67-year-old woman related.
Meanwhile, threats were also made to take away her grandson if she did not cooperate and provide the robbers with what they wanted.
“Me beg them alyu nah carry away me grandson; what you all gon carry he and do wid am,” she related.
She said she was then lashed on the head with the gun again. However, the elderly woman remained focused but scared and invited the robbers to go into the house and take whatever they wanted but cautioned them to spare their lives.
Her grandson, she said, was told to sit on the ground and raise his hands in the air as he sat. According to her, the bandit carrying the iron pipe went inside her home and searched for several minutes. During that time, he collected US$600 and approximately $40,000 local currency from a bag.
Akunjebehari said the men also carried away an electronic tablet which was next to her when they arrived. “The tablet I does use to go on Facebook,” she explained.
Meanwhile, from the time the intruders got on the premises, the woman’s two-year-old great grandson seemed terrified. According to his mother, Vidya Kallooram, the baby was crying and it is his cries that might have alerted neighbours.
Kallooram said she was instructed to nurse the baby but told the robber that the baby does not nurse. She was then instructed to hold the infant and prevent him from crying.
The men left the same way they entered the yard, jumping the back fence. They disappeared into the bushes at the back of Ankervillle and headed towards the Bangladesh area.
Akunjebehari says following their exit, she and the others quickly went inside and called the Police who arrived shortly after. Hours later, bandits struck again in the same street.
While Akunjebehari lives at the end of the street – about half a mile from the Corentyne Highway – bandits broke into a home situated four houses from the highway along the same street popularly, called ‘Dispensary Dam’.
Reports are that at Lot 159 Ankerville, Port Mourant, a kitchen was broken into. This publication understands that the incident occurred sometime between 02:00h and 07:00h on Thursday morning.
The bandits turned two surveillance cameras towards the wall, as they broke into the kitchen and removed two gas stoves and two gas cylinders and fittings.
The men also took away an electric saw. Losses are estimated at $130,000. The Police are investigating both incidents. No one has been arrested.

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Too much info is given out here by the News media. They are telling other bandits and Copy Cats how lucrative are the bootees and advertising how much money people may carry at home. They are even describing how to terrorize and how to inflict pains. 

Mitwah

Don’t know what Jagdeo can do to solve that, it happened under the PPP watch also.  Crime is paying.

I believe people need to start installing more security cameras around and the government should help launch some image capture backup so police can access and retrieve images from remote storage!  It’s after the fact however, these rings will be broken up faster.

There needs to be a public/private partnership between the community and police.  

Use technology more, it’s there and not expensive.  It’s not political. 

Baseman
Zed posted:

Freedom of the press, Mit.  Are you thinking there should be curtailment in that area? A free press is essential for democracy? Why not ask where was the police?

I agree with freedom of the press for democracy. What we have in Guyana are Tabloids not News Papers; but Yellow Journalism.

Yellow journalism, or the yellow press, is a US term for a type of journalism that presents little or no legitimate well-researched news and instead uses eye-catching headlines to sell more newspapers.[1] Techniques may include exaggerations of news events, scandal-mongering or sensationalism. By extension, the term yellow journalism is used today as a pejorative to decry any journalism that treats news in an unprofessional or unethical fashion. Source: Wikipedia

 

 

 

Mitwah
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The media must respect itself

The media must not allow itself to be used. There are a number of state agencies which host events and which would like those events to be covered by the media. As such, they dispatch invitations for coverage but want to control what aspects are covered by the media.
This is exactly what happened with the Annual Officers’ Conference of the Guyana Defence Force. The media was invited to cover the opening of the conference but in reality what the GDF wanted was only coverage of the President’s address.
This is insulating practice by many state organisations which want media coverage but only for specific purposes. The media, however, do not wish to be so controlled and so they rebel against it.
The grouse in the relation to the Annual Officers’ Conference of the GDF was that the media turned up on time, were put to wait and by the time they were allowed to cover the opening, the main speaker, the President had already begun to speak. Therefore they felt insulted and left.
The media is not blameless. They have allowed themselves to be manipulated. Part of the problem with the media is that they have become extremely reliant on press releases issued by the government. They rewrite these releases and carry them as news rather than covering the event.
The Ministry of the Presidency and the Department of Public Information, formerly the Government Information Agency (GINA), issue releases almost daily about public engagements of the President and Ministers. The media does not always cover all of these events since they have grown accustomed to rewriting the government official releases.
The whole thing has become something of a joke. The Ministry of the Presidency reports on even the most trivial of meetings held by the President. These events become photo-opportunities which are then sent out to the media which seem all too satisfied to carry them, without any consideration given to the fact that they should be covering those events.
As such, the media has become dependent on releases. This is the basis of many of their stories on the government. A certain degree of dependency is developing. Journalists have become lazy and many are content on regurgitating the releases issued by the government.
The government is smart enough to recognise this condition. It knows that many media operatives are lazy and are just waiting to gobble up their releases rather than go out there and get their own stories. So the state media spoon feeds many of the private media houses, making them reliant and dependent on what the government releases.
It is the same situation with the opposition. The opposition is using the media to get its positions over. There is nothing wrong with this, except that it is now become something of a practice in which the opposition, PPPC hosts a press conference every week. The media is all too willing to report what the opposition states at its press conference.
Recently, the Guyana Press Association asked for assistance in visiting the border areas. This is an inexplicable proposal. The Guyana Press Association has no reason to ask the government to arrange for them to visit those areas. What do they expect that the government will do, other than have a controlled environment?
The media needs to become less reliant on the government. It needs to use its own resources to cover the border areas. It should not be asking government for any such assistance.
It is unfortunate how the media was treated by the Guyana Defence Force during the recent conference. Those who walked out did the right thing but they must be careful also of not believing that they are more important than the story they are covering. They are not.
If the media wants respect, it has to begin by respecting itself. The first step is to reduce their reliance on government releases and trying to attend every little event to which they are invited.


 

Good piece by Peeping Tom.

Django

Labba seh take a look how Indo bais now mixing cokecain with rum and then rom dem mattie. That is a Jagdoe legacy. Kick down de door was army/blackman pon coolie. Now in dem rural area is Indo bais pon dem own. 

FM
cain posted:

Dem guys doan like mention stuff like dat..is only black people who does do crime.

Crime is not a color thing. Criminals do not rob or kill people because of their color unless it's done by the KKK.

FM
Labba posted:

Labba seh take a look how Indo bais now mixing cokecain with rum and then rom dem mattie. That is a Jagdoe legacy. Kick down de door was army/blackman pon coolie. Now in dem rural area is Indo bais pon dem own. 

Jittery Labba, You ever hear the word kutnie?

FM
Mitwah posted:

Too much info is given out here by the News media. They are telling other bandits and Copy Cats how lucrative are the bootees and advertising how much money people may carry at home. They are even describing how to terrorize and how to inflict pains. 

What a joke, everybody owns stove, jewelry and cash, so that is nothing new. What you are trying to do is HUSH the press, the crime is so plenty you don' t want  it publicize, it's too embarrassing to the government and Rumjaat. The lady is lucky they didn't kill her. The government is creating Criminals, by putting people out off a job not allowing them to earn their daily bread, eventually they are FORCED to thief to survive. Crime is out of control.

 

K
yuji22 posted:

Let us not forget that Jackass Ramjattan took away guns from local community groups. All to satisfy Granger so that criminals can loot and rob Indos at will.

Maybe those are the guns given to the black bandits.

K
kp posted:
Mitwah posted:

Too much info is given out here by the News media. They are telling other bandits and Copy Cats how lucrative are the bootees and advertising how much money people may carry at home. They are even describing how to terrorize and how to inflict pains. 

What a joke, everybody owns stove, jewelry and cash, so that is nothing new. What you are trying to do is HUSH the press, the crime is so plenty you don' t want  it publicize, it's too embarrassing to the government and Rumjaat. The lady is lucky they didn't kill her. The government is creating Criminals, by putting people out off a job not allowing them to earn their daily bread, eventually they are FORCED to thief to survive. Crime is out of control.

 

Fool, this was happening during the PPP time too.

Mitwah
yuji22 posted:

Let us not forget that Jackass Ramjattan took away guns from local community groups. All to satisfy Granger so that criminals can loot and rob Indos at will.

You are lying.

Mitwah
kp posted:
yuji22 posted:

Let us not forget that Jackass Ramjattan took away guns from local community groups. All to satisfy Granger so that criminals can loot and rob Indos at will.

Maybe those are the guns given to the black bandits.

From what I understand from the media and relatives there, banditry has become an equally opportunity employer.   It has now gone syndicated with many Indians in the forefront.  

How about the scenario, some Indians with guns have now morphed into organized criminal gangs and employing freelancers whichever race!  Who was the notorious “inspector gadget” that terrorized during the PPP era?

Baseman

Some of the PPP-ites are biased,their views are every crime in Guyana are committed by African Guyanese.

An analysis of this robbery and the village,conclusion can be made the criminals are East Indians.

Django
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Django posted:

Some of the PPP-ites are biased,their views are every crime in Guyana are committed by African Guyanese.

An analysis of this robbery and the village,conclusion can be made the criminals are East Indians.

That’s why Guyana 🇬🇾 continues, and will continue, to be a shithole 5kontry!  The politicians and their lackeys are all the same, shitheads!

Baseman
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kp posted:
yuji22 posted:

Let us not forget that Jackass Ramjattan took away guns from local community groups. All to satisfy Granger so that criminals can loot and rob Indos at will.

Maybe those are the guns given to the black bandits.

Exactly. Jackass Ramjattan's first act was to take guns away from community policing groups and they ended up in the hand of criminals.

FM
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yuji22 posted:
kp posted:
yuji22 posted:

Let us not forget that Jackass Ramjattan took away guns from local community groups. All to satisfy Granger so that criminals can loot and rob Indos at will.

Maybe those are the guns given to the black bandits.

Exactly. Jackass Ramjattan's first act was to take guns away from community policing groups and they ended up in the hand of criminals.

Show the proof where Khemraj Ramjattan,Security Minister,dis-arm the Community Policing Groups.

Django
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Take away lethal weapons from CPGs – AFC Leader


The time is now right for those who are responsible for security in Guyana to begin to embrace modern technology and equip the ranks of the various Community Policing Groups with more effective but less lethal weapons.

AFC Leader Khemraj Ramjattan

AFC Leader Khemraj Ramjattan

Godfrey Jhaggroo

Godfrey Jhaggroo

This view has long been held by Alliance For Change Leader Khemraj Ramjatan who said that his party will be pushing for legislative changes that could see community policing ranks be given relevant weapons
“I have asked on numerous occasions for these people to be given stun guns…, which can knock you out, and not kill you. Why don’t they invest in that for the Community Policing Group? That’s the kind of investment that the Alliance For Change would like to see,” Ramjattan reasoned.
His restated position comes in the wake of the shooting of a 20 year old Bellevue, West Bank Demerara youth, Godfrey Jhaggroo called ‘Oh-Oh’, reportedly by members of the neighbourhood’s Community Policing Group.
A police official statement said that their “Initial investigations have revealed that Godfrey Jhaggroo was involved in an argument with his mother during which a man, who resides next door and operates an off licence liquor store, intervened and assaulted him with a piece of wood.”
According to the police, Jhaggroo was on his way to the Wales Police Station to make a report when he was confronted by three men, one of whom is a licenced firearm holder, “and who were at the off licence liquor store, during which he was shot to his back with a shotgun.”
Ramjattan said that he had read about the incident and “I want to believe that it is almost like murder and it smacks of an execution and extra judicial killing.”
“It is totally abhorrent to our system of justice, and it must not be done and the people doing it be literally not chastised, and sometimes even being praised. It is a horrible development,” the AFC Leader stated.
Ramjattan agreed that last Thursday’s case was not one that had to be attended to with the type of force that was used.
For one, he said that the CPG members have no real training to make proper assessment of a particular situation.
“This just goes to show they want to be judge, jury and executioner …they are making their own assessment, and they are given guns that can shoot bullets at almost seven yards per second. Once that shot is fired it becomes unreviewable and the death thereafter becomes another horrific experience for Guyanese citizens and this has to be brought to a halt,” Ramjattan stated.
Because of the nature of criminal activities these days, Community Policing Groups are not expected to engage criminals in armed confrontations but rather they are supposed to gather information and contact the more equipped Guyana Police Force.
Ramjattan strongly recommended that if the concept of Community Policing is to work there be a huge investment in the training of those involved, so that they can execute their duty in a lawful and proper fashion that will not end up in unnecessary injury or death to innocent Guyanese.
“You remember the Yohance Douglas incident, and they were policemen much less these guys, and now they are given powerful weapons,” Ramjattan, a defence attorney, said.
He pointed out that this development is symptomatic of the reality that passes for law enforcement in Guyana, adding that the real police are the lesser of the two evils, since in the main local law enforcers are trigger happy.
“Within the community policing group, once they have guns, they are far more trigger-happy, if you were to look at ratio as to how many shootings they would do normally. But it sometimes goes unreported. So it is something that we really have to start thinking through better…so that these Community Policing people don’t start killing people,” the AFC Leader stated.
“We had seen this development in another period of Guyana’s history, when the Community Policing started getting a lot of immunity,” he added, noting that CPG members were usurping the powers of the regular police, by wantonly searching and arresting persons,” he added.
Ramjattan laid the blame for the seemingly out-of-control CPGs on the ruling People’s Progressive Party.
“The PPP loves that kind of thing, because all those Community Policing Groups are made up of hardcore PPP activists. So they want to arm them in a very indirect way,” Ramjattan stated.
His beliefs are similar to that of a former senior police officer who told this newspaper that Community Policing Groups operate as if they are only accountable to the Ministry of Home Affairs.
Speaking with this newspaper yesterday, the senior officer who was integrally involved in the early days of Community Policing, recalled that the late Commissioner of Police Laurie Lewis always insisted that the CPGs know under which authority they fall, and that is the police.
“It is clear that Community Policing is heading in a different direction. It is troubling and disturbing to note that during the 33rd anniversary celebrations of Community Policing in Guyana, the honourable Minister of Home Affairs had said that community policing had not been taken away from the Guyana Police Force, and that it is the police who are responsible for monitoring them. Yet the current circumstances reflect otherwise. Some groups are misguided because the Ministry through its Liaison Officers keeps insisting that CPGs report to the Ministry,” the former cop said.
He added that this is why some Divisional Commanders and other senior police officers are now adopting a hands-off approach to some Community Policing Groups.

 
FM

Ramjattan has “crippled” community policing groups; PPP says crime situation is abominable

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By Fareeza Haniff

PPP's General Secretary, Clement Rohee and Vice President, Khemraj Ramjattan.
PPP’s General Secretary, Clement Rohee and Vice President, Khemraj Ramjattan.

[www.inewsguyana.com]– Former Minister of Home Affairs, Clement Rohee has taken Security Minister, Khemraj Ramjattan to task over Guyana’s crime situation, accusing him of “crippling” Community Policing Groups (CPGs).

Rohee, who is also General Secretary of the Opposition People’s Progressive Party (PPP), told a news conference on Monday, August 24 that the promise by the APNU+AFC government to improve CPGS in Guyana is a “total fallacy.”

According to Rohee, “In the 2015 Budget there is no provision under Capital for Community Policing Organization of Guyana. Contrary to what Ramjattan told the National Assembly that the vehicles seized from the CPGs and handed over to the police would be returned to the CPGs and that there is provision in the 2015 budget for additional vehicles. Ramjattan has actually crippled the CPGs.”

The former Home Affairs Minister noted that apart from taking away vehicles assigned to the CPGs, Ramjattan has dismissed a number of Liaison Officers and replaced them with AFC activists “who have tainted police records.”

He further noted that the Granger administration should come clean and let the Guyanese people know that they have “failed miserably in addressing crime in Guyana and that all the talk about a plan being ‘fine-tuned’ and that a “five point plan” was being implemented means nothing to the Guyanese people when every day of its 100 Days Action Plan crime is reeling out of control.”

In providing his statistics, it was noted that for the first hundred days of the APNU+AFC Coalition Government, there were 147 serious crimes including twenty-six (26) murders, five (5) attempted murders, thirty-nine (39) robbery under arms, eight (8) cases of seized firearms and twenty-one (21) possession of narcotics occurred.

“The situation has deteriorated to the extent where residents at the Corentyne, Berbice took to the streets to protest the lack of security and protection and called for the dismissal of Ramjattan as Public Security Minister. Many people see him as completely hopeless and unsuitable for the job,” Rohee said.

FM
skeldon_man posted:
Labba posted:

Labba seh take a look how Indo bais now mixing cokecain with rum and then rom dem mattie. That is a Jagdoe legacy. Kick down de door was army/blackman pon coolie. Now in dem rural area is Indo bais pon dem own. 

Jittery Labba, You ever hear the word kutnie?

Of course...

FM

Take away lethal weapons from CPGs – AFC Leader

Ramjattan has “crippled” community policing groups; PPP says crime situation is abominable



 
Try harder the two articles,didn't mention from May 2105, Ramjattan dis-arm the Community Policing Groups.
Django
kp posted:

Django asked for proof, now he get proof, he look stupid. I wonder when ever did Django ever provide proof, never , he quick to say ,do your own research.

He fetches PNC slop all day long, it has taken over his brain.

FM

More criticism of Minister Ramjattan


Dear Editor,
For the past two months or more, there hasn’t been a day where the crime situation in Guyana, has not dominated the headlines of the more popular dailies. One has to be real naive not to observe that violent crime is on the rise, and that there is no evident macro plan to counter this. The noticeable absence of any type of proactive approach seems to be a motivation for anyone with a gun to get into the business of armed robbery.
I am forced to deduce that this is all happening as a consequence of the lack of visionary leadership at both the Ministry of Public Security and the Guyana Police Force. This situation is further compounded with the tragic conditions prevailing at the Georgetown Prisons, which also falls under the ambit of the Minister of Public Security. Minister Ramathan is obviously out of his depth at this Ministry, and his Commissioner is like Alice in Wonderland. While I understand the provisions of the Cummingsburg Accord, Mr. President, I urge you to consider removing both Mr. Ramjattan and the Commissioner of Police from their respective appointments, before the crime situation escalates to a catastrophe and brings your government down.
While Mr. Ramjattan may be a clever lawyer, Public Security is definitely not his forte.  Ramjattan is a round peg in a square hole at the Public Security Ministry, unable to fill the requirements of his portfolio.  He should be reshuffled to a ministry for which his qualifications make him suitable. This is my humble advice as a worried citizen.
George Gomes
Lieutenant Colonel (retired)

FM
kp posted:

Django asked for proof, now he get proof, he look stupid. I wonder when ever did Django ever provide proof, never , he quick to say ,do your own research.

Read the two article and point out from May 2015,where Ramjattan dis-arm the Community Policing Groups.

I have always back up my statements,there are times i will say do your own research,when ever there are asininity in requests.

Django
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KP Bhai,

Leave the PNC clown alone. Ramjattan crippled the community policing groups and Django is cheering him along because his PNC crime family is enjoying the benefits.

This was Granger's master plan.

FM
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Django posted:

Some of the PPP-ites are biased,their views are every crime in Guyana are committed by African Guyanese.

An analysis of this robbery and the village,conclusion can be made the criminals are East Indians.

An analysis of this robbery and the village,conclusion can be made the criminals are East Indians.

 I suggest stick to your repair work, you are now a criminal analyst.

 Afro Guyanese don't look to thief in their neighbourhood, because them ain't got nothing to thief.

K
yuji22 posted:

KP Bhai,

Leave the PNC clown alone. Ramjattan crippled the community policing groups and Django is cheering him along because his PNC crime family is enjoying the benefits.

This was Granger's master plan.

Listen..instead of labelling,which is the best you can do when challenged.

show the proof.

Django
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kp posted:
Django posted:

Some of the PPP-ites are biased,their views are every crime in Guyana are committed by African Guyanese.

An analysis of this robbery and the village,conclusion can be made the criminals are East Indians.

An analysis of this robbery and the village,conclusion can be made the criminals are East Indians.

 I suggest stick to your repair work, you are now a criminal analyst.

 Afro Guyanese don't look to thief in their neighbourhood, because them ain't got nothing to thief.

You are stuck in ancient times,

how assessment and analysis can be be derived,you may think my field of work are only repair,in this modern day we have to deal with statistics to stay at the top,especially working for top companies in the Electronics Business.

Django
Django posted:
kp posted:
Django posted:

Some of the PPP-ites are biased,their views are every crime in Guyana are committed by African Guyanese.

An analysis of this robbery and the village,conclusion can be made the criminals are East Indians.

An analysis of this robbery and the village,conclusion can be made the criminals are East Indians.

 I suggest stick to your repair work, you are now a criminal analyst.

 Afro Guyanese don't look to thief in their neighbourhood, because them ain't got nothing to thief.

You are stuck in ancient times,

how assessment and analysis can be be derived,you may think my field of work are only repair,in this modern day we have to deal with statistics to stay at the top,especially working for top companies in the Electronics Business.

I went to college and university, but never profess to be something of which I am not qualified.

K
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kp posted:
Django posted:
kp posted:
Django posted:

Some of the PPP-ites are biased,their views are every crime in Guyana are committed by African Guyanese.

An analysis of this robbery and the village,conclusion can be made the criminals are East Indians.

An analysis of this robbery and the village,conclusion can be made the criminals are East Indians.

 I suggest stick to your repair work, you are now a criminal analyst.

 Afro Guyanese don't look to thief in their neighbourhood, because them ain't got nothing to thief.

You are stuck in ancient times,

how assessment and analysis can be be derived,you may think my field of work are only repair,in this modern day we have to deal with statistics to stay at the top,especially working for top companies in the Electronics Business.

I went to college and university, but never profess to be something of which I and not qualified.

Good for you.

You may want to take in to consideration, the people,whether Educated or Not have the right to make their own assessment and analysis of the Political Leaders and any events that may hamper their everyday lives.

May be you want them to be yes "men and women".

Any way have a great day !! I detest  clashes of ones achievement in life.Stick to the topic.

Django
Django posted:
kp posted:
Django posted:

Good for you.

You may want to take in to consideration, the people,whether Educated or Not have the right to make their own assessment and analysis of the Political Leaders and any events that may hamper their everyday lives.

May be you want them to be yes "men and women".

Any way have a great day !! I detest  clashes of ones achievement in life.Stick to the topic.

Do you trust an uneducated alcoholic individual to make a logical assessment? Give him a bottle of "Stay Home Darling" and he will do whatever you want him to do or say.

FM

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