Thousands of Jobs for all Guyanese

Drugb posted:
caribny posted:

Quite funny.   But those who think that the PPP was any better need to examine why thousands of Guyanese fled to hurricane prone islands during their era.

CSME, again I have to school you. 

Druggie let me school you. CSME covered university graduates, media workers, artistes and musicians and supervisory workers.  Nurses and teachers also fell within this category.  This was implemented in 2006. AFTER Guyanese had already begun to flee. In fact this was AFTER Barbados ordered the removal of Guyanese.

The pile up of Guyanese in the Caribbean began after 2000 when the Guyana economy began to slow and when Guyanese were forced to flee to the Islands to find decent work.  Clerical workers from Guyana could make three times as much to be baby sitters in Barbados. Teachers in Barbados were earning 7X as much as they did in Guyana.

Now scream that tourism pays so well that Guyanese couldn't help but work in it.  Druggie if Guyana doesn't have a tourist industry how would they have acquired the experience to fit into those categories?  The Guyanese working in tourism were the unskilled ones, because it is only the unskilled who are hired without having experience specific to tourism.

Unskilled workers who have vocational training weren't covered until 2009.  This because these categories of workers were the largest group migrating within CARICOM.  It was felt that the CSME was elitist and so this group was added.  This was insisted upon by Jagdeo and the PM of St Vincent given that Guyanese in particular faced discriminatory treatment at CARICOM airports.

Druggie don't bite off more than you can chew. Don't discuss topics that you know not because I will gobble you up and then spit you out and flush you down the garbage chute.

caribny posted:

Druggie let me school you. CSME covered university graduates, media workers, artistes and musicians and supervisory workers.  Nurses and teachers also fell within this category.  This was implemented in 2006. AFTER Guyanese had already begun to flee. In fact this was AFTER Barbados ordered the removal of Guyanese.

The pile up of Guyanese in the Caribbean began after 2000 when the Guyana economy began to slow and when Guyanese were forced to flee to the Islands to find decent work.  Clerical workers from Guyana could make three times as much to be baby sitters in Barbados. Teachers in Barbados were earning 7X as much as they did in Guyana.

Now scream that tourism pays so well that Guyanese couldn't help but work in it.  Druggie if Guyana doesn't have a tourist industry how would they have acquired the experience to fit into those categories?  The Guyanese working in tourism were the unskilled ones, because it is only the unskilled who are hired without having experience specific to tourism.

Unskilled workers who have vocational training weren't covered until 2009.  This because these categories of workers were the largest group migrating within CARICOM.  It was felt that the CSME was elitist and so this group was added.  This was insisted upon by Jagdeo and the PM of St Vincent given that Guyanese in particular faced discriminatory treatment at CARICOM airports.

Druggie don't bite off more than you can chew. Don't discuss topics that you know not because I will gobble you up and then spit you out and flush you down the garbage chute.

Now that I school you, you retroactively trying to fill your knowledge gap via google and wikipedia.   Now you bobbing and weaving about professional vs unskilled, trying to bend CSME to justify your erroneous arguments. Next class at 6pm sharp, don't be late or you will get a demerit.   

Drugb posted:
caribny posted:

Druggie let me school you. CSME covered university graduates, media workers, artistes and musicians and supervisory workers.  Nurses and teachers also fell within this category.  This was implemented in 2006. AFTER Guyanese had already begun to flee. In fact this was AFTER Barbados ordered the removal of Guyanese.

The pile up of Guyanese in the Caribbean began after 2000 when the Guyana economy began to slow and when Guyanese were forced to flee to the Islands to find decent work.  Clerical workers from Guyana could make three times as much to be baby sitters in Barbados. Teachers in Barbados were earning 7X as much as they did in Guyana.

Now scream that tourism pays so well that Guyanese couldn't help but work in it.  Druggie if Guyana doesn't have a tourist industry how would they have acquired the experience to fit into those categories?  The Guyanese working in tourism were the unskilled ones, because it is only the unskilled who are hired without having experience specific to tourism.

Unskilled workers who have vocational training weren't covered until 2009.  This because these categories of workers were the largest group migrating within CARICOM.  It was felt that the CSME was elitist and so this group was added.  This was insisted upon by Jagdeo and the PM of St Vincent given that Guyanese in particular faced discriminatory treatment at CARICOM airports.

Druggie don't bite off more than you can chew. Don't discuss topics that you know not because I will gobble you up and then spit you out and flush you down the garbage chute.

Now that I school you, you retroactively trying to fill your knowledge gap via google and wikipedia.   Now you bobbing and weaving about professional vs unskilled, trying to bend CSME to justify your erroneous arguments. Next class at 6pm sharp, don't be late or you will get a demerit.   

Why don't you rebut my points if you are this expert on CSME?  Start with the fact that CSME began AFTER most Guyanese  had already left for Barbados and elsewhere and AFTER Barbados had tossed out thousands of Guyanese,

Then explain why in the initial period CSME focused on professionals and Management types and rather than benefitting from this free movement Guyana lost THOUSANDS of its best and brightest?

Why couldn't Guyana attract professionals from Jamaica and St Lucia and Grenada?

You scream that tourism is what made Guyanese migrate to the islands.

Druggie tell me how many Guyanese professionals and manager level people have the expertise in tourism to allow them to obtain jobs in Barbados and Antigua.

Druggie most of the Guyanese who benefitted from CSME were teachers and nurses.

Druggie why didn't Guyana ATTRACT teachers and nurses from St Vincent and Dominica?

You don't know so you schooled NO ONE.

caribny posted:

Why don't you rebut my points if you are this expert on CSME?  Start with the fact that CSME began AFTER most Guyanese  had already left for Barbados and elsewhere and AFTER Barbados had tossed out thousands of Guyanese,

Then explain why in the initial period CSME focused on professionals and Management types and rather than benefitting from this free movement Guyana lost THOUSANDS of its best and brightest?

Why couldn't Guyana attract professionals from Jamaica and St Lucia and Grenada?

You scream that tourism is what made Guyanese migrate to the islands.

Druggie tell me how many Guyanese professionals and manager level people have the expertise in tourism to allow them to obtain jobs in Barbados and Antigua.

Druggie most of the Guyanese who benefitted from CSME were teachers and nurses.

Druggie why didn't Guyana ATTRACT teachers and nurses from St Vincent and Dominica?

You don't know so you schooled NO ONE.

None of your arguments are based on facts, just conjecture, coulda woulda shoulda, must have, probably etc. The fact remains that Guyanese in these islands have thrived and now employ locals to shine their shoes and mind their babies. 

Drugb posted:
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None of your arguments are based on facts, just conjecture, coulda woulda shoulda, must have, probably etc. The fact remains that Guyanese in these islands have thrived and now employ locals to shine their shoes and mind their babies. 

And where is your evidence to back your claims that Barbadians in Barbados slave for Guyanese.

You cannot provide this. Your source was a member of the Indo KKK who went to Barbados and saw some duty free shops and stores owned by Indians.  The idiot assumed that these were Guyanese.

Too bad for you when of your fellow PPP cohorts in fact revealed that they are Gujarati people.  This was written by a Barbadian of Indian ancestry.  The most he said about Guyanese Indians is that they are more recent arrivals in Barbados but said NOTHING which implied that they were an important part of Barbados' business community.

Yes I have no doubt that you will find some little shop owned by a PPP supporter in some remote rural village but you are a complete joke if you think that thousands of Barbadians depend on them for employment!

You can name Gafoors and then it ends there. ONE major corporation.  And why was this company there. Because Barbados had a stable economy which Guyana lacked and so this is hedging their bets. NOT because they are doing something that Barbadians cannot do.  And this is certainly NOT an example of some humble PPP supporter who worked his way up. He was already a wealthy man who was scared about being limited to the Guyana market.

caribny posted:
Drugb posted:
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None of your arguments are based on facts, just conjecture, coulda woulda shoulda, must have, probably etc. The fact remains that Guyanese in these islands have thrived and now employ locals to shine their shoes and mind their babies. 

And where is your evidence to back your claims that Barbadians in Barbados slave for Guyanese.

You cannot provide this. Your source was a member of the Indo KKK who went to Barbados and saw some duty free shops and stores owned by Indians.  The idiot assumed that these were Guyanese.

Too bad for you when of your fellow PPP cohorts in fact revealed that they are Gujarati people.  This was written by a Barbadian of Indian ancestry.  The most he said about Guyanese Indians is that they are more recent arrivals in Barbados but said NOTHING which implied that they were an important part of Barbados' business community.

Yes I have no doubt that you will find some little shop owned by a PPP supporter in some remote rural village but you are a complete joke if you think that thousands of Barbadians depend on them for employment!

You can name Gafoors and then it ends there. ONE major corporation.  And why was this company there. Because Barbados had a stable economy which Guyana lacked and so this is hedging their bets. NOT because they are doing something that Barbadians cannot do.  And this is certainly NOT an example of some humble PPP supporter who worked his way up. He was already a wealthy man who was scared about being limited to the Guyana market.

Oye Carib,correction bhai,I burst the bubble and ain't no more a PPP cohort,that's gone since BJ took over.

Django posted:
caribny posted:
Drugb posted:
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None of your arguments are based on facts, just conjecture, coulda woulda shoulda, must have, probably etc. The fact remains that Guyanese in these islands have thrived and now employ locals to shine their shoes and mind their babies. 

And where is your evidence to back your claims that Barbadians in Barbados slave for Guyanese.

You cannot provide this. Your source was a member of the Indo KKK who went to Barbados and saw some duty free shops and stores owned by Indians.  The idiot assumed that these were Guyanese.

Too bad for you when of your fellow PPP cohorts in fact revealed that they are Gujarati people.  This was written by a Barbadian of Indian ancestry.  The most he said about Guyanese Indians is that they are more recent arrivals in Barbados but said NOTHING which implied that they were an important part of Barbados' business community.

Yes I have no doubt that you will find some little shop owned by a PPP supporter in some remote rural village but you are a complete joke if you think that thousands of Barbadians depend on them for employment!

You can name Gafoors and then it ends there. ONE major corporation.  And why was this company there. Because Barbados had a stable economy which Guyana lacked and so this is hedging their bets. NOT because they are doing something that Barbadians cannot do.  And this is certainly NOT an example of some humble PPP supporter who worked his way up. He was already a wealthy man who was scared about being limited to the Guyana market.

Oye Carib,correction bhai,I burst the bubble and ain't no more a PPP cohort,that's gone since BJ took over.

PPP does not need people like you. You are a two-sided blade cutlass.

caribny posted:
Drugb posted:
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None of your arguments are based on facts, just conjecture, coulda woulda shoulda, must have, probably etc. The fact remains that Guyanese in these islands have thrived and now employ locals to shine their shoes and mind their babies. 

And where is your evidence to back your claims that Barbadians in Barbados slave for Guyanese.

You cannot provide this. Your source was a member of the Indo KKK who went to Barbados and saw some duty free shops and stores owned by Indians.  The idiot assumed that these were Guyanese.

Too bad for you when of your fellow PPP cohorts in fact revealed that they are Gujarati people.  This was written by a Barbadian of Indian ancestry.  The most he said about Guyanese Indians is that they are more recent arrivals in Barbados but said NOTHING which implied that they were an important part of Barbados' business community.

Yes I have no doubt that you will find some little shop owned by a PPP supporter in some remote rural village but you are a complete joke if you think that thousands of Barbadians depend on them for employment!

You can name Gafoors and then it ends there. ONE major corporation.  And why was this company there. Because Barbados had a stable economy which Guyana lacked and so this is hedging their bets. NOT because they are doing something that Barbadians cannot do.  And this is certainly NOT an example of some humble PPP supporter who worked his way up. He was already a wealthy man who was scared about being limited to the Guyana market.

You are a serious joker, you make outrageous claims about Indo G washing Bajan bamzies and when asked for proof, you try to turn the tables. The fact is that I myself witnessed rich IndoG in Bbados with Black Bajan servants.  One bajan servant even ran up to me asking to shine my shoes for a US dollar. 

caribny posted:
Drugb posted:

None of your arguments are based on facts, just conjecture, coulda woulda shoulda, must have, probably etc. The fact remains that Guyanese in these islands have thrived and now employ locals to shine their shoes and mind their babies. 

You can name Gafoors and then it ends there. ONE major corporation.  And why was this company there. Because Barbados had a stable economy which Guyana lacked and so this is hedging their bets. NOT because they are doing something that Barbadians cannot do.  And this is certainly NOT an example of some humble PPP supporter who worked his way up. He was already a wealthy man who was scared about being limited to the Guyana market.

There are numerous Indo-Guyanese who are well established in Barbados and other places in the West Indies.

Brief background on Gafoors in Guyana and moving to Barbados in 1980.

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The emerging economic hardships of the mid-1970s and the attendant shortage of foreign exchange led to the introduction of licensing requirements that impacted negatively on local enterprises that depended on foreign imports. Gafoor recalls differences with the political administration and it was those differences, ultimately, that led to his departure for Barbados on August 6, 1980. With the help of Japanese firm Itoman he built a business in Barbados. It was, he says, “reasonable successful,” though it was not without its difficult moments arising out of the introduction of licences for intra-regional trading.

Return to Guyana
Gafoor relocated to Guyana shortly after the change of political administration in 1992. The late President Jagan had visited Barbados and met Guyanese residing there in an effort to urge them to return home. Upon his return, he began the construction of an industrial site at Broad and Charles Streets. In 1999 another site was established at Land of Canaan on the East Bank Demerara. The Land of Canaan site, Gafoor says, is the single largest complex in Guyana, sitting on 25.7 acres of land.

Source and entire article -- Gafsons Enterprise at 60 …Sattaur Gafoor reflects on one of Guyana’s most resilient businesses

, , Source -- Stabroek News, https://www.stabroeknews.com/2...esilient-businesses/

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Drugb posted:
caribny posted:
Drugb posted:
 

. The fact is that I myself witnessed rich IndoG in Bbados with Black Bajan servants.  

Funny thing is that every black person you meet is begging you for money.

Show us all of these wealthy Indo GUYANESE owned businesses.

Seems as if Gafoors which is owned by WEALTHY people is all one can get.

 

 

caribny posted:
Funny thing is that every black person you meet is begging you for money. Show us all of these wealthy Indo GUYANESE owned businesses. Seems as if Gafoors which is owned by WEALTHY people is all one can get.

 

 

Let us do a field trip to Bbadoes and finally put this to rest. I am free the entire month of December. Pick your date and we will go. 

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